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[bsmcrosseyed]

Food for thought......
There are a multitude of problems for salmon. Starfish collapse triggered a urchin population explosion which then decimated the kelp beds.
Which in turn left less food and protection for juvenile salmon. Commercial salmon practices also need to be addressed. Questions like harvest numbers or survival rate to spawn of escaped gill netted fish due to injuries etc. Are forestry practices reducing shade cover causing faster and sooner snow melt and creating an increase of river water temperature. Is a lack of predators and hunting causing a deer population increase in which streamside foliage is overeaten reducing food and shelter for smolts and increase of water temperature reducing oxygen levels. Should barbless hooks be used everywhere or if bait is used should it be on circle hooks to reduce throat damage due to swallowing. Are regulations too complex to understand and if so contributing to accidental poaching. Regulations need to be written in multiple languages. Seal issue. Overall enforcement budget and capabilities. Review of penalties and fines of poaching. Should lead weights continue to be used and is lead contamination in the rivers affecting the eggs and smolt development. The list of questions can go on forever. Throughout human history our greatest fault is we prefer to lean what we individually think is right instead of what is effective. We are all at fault for the salmon decline, even those who don't fish, like throwing out a plastic bag! My family has fished for generations and would like my kids to keep the tradition going. We all need to accept our own faults and work with others to solve this salmon population issue. Accusations will only entrench others positions. Over simplification of this complex issue will only guarantee frustration and failure.
Food for thought...........

[wildmanyeah]

around the world they have found the best way to protect marine areas and fisheries is to create Marine Protected Areas.

The simple and most effect of way to protect stocks is to not fish them or allow any fishing activities to take place in the Marine Protect Areas.

https://www.unenvironment.org/explore-topics/oceans-seas/what-we-do/promoting-marine-protected-areas

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/oceans/mpa-zpm/index-eng.html

What is an MPA?
An MPA is part of the ocean that is legally protected and managed to achieve the long-term conservation of nature. MPAs may allow some current and future activities depending on their impacts to the ecological features being protected. They provide many benefits for Canadians, from environmental to social and cultural contributions.

Contribute to a healthy marine environment:
MPAs and MPA networks help conserve and protect marine species and populations, the diversity of ecosystems that marine organisms depend on, and special places such as underwater canyons and hydrothermal vents.
MPA networks also help to protect important ecological links between one area and another, contributing to improved species resilience and adaptation to future pressures.
Support economic goals of society:
Resilient and healthy ecosystems help to support sustainable industries, local economies and coastal communities.
In time, protected areas can be a source of young fish to disperse to other areas, and a source of larger and more abundant fish for unprotected areas near MPAs.
A MPA network strategy clarifies our direction for marine conservation, so ocean users will have a clearer vision of their potential access and restrictions to marine resources.
Contribute to Canadian culture:
MPAs can be developed to conserve and protect marine areas with spiritual or cultural heritage value such as archaeological sites, shipwrecks, and areas traditionally used by Aboriginal and non-aboriginal communities.
Recreation, tourism and education activities that are consistent with the objectives of a protected area may be permitted, improving public awareness, understanding and appreciation of Canada’s marine heritage.

[BBarley]

With so many questions and so many possible answers, it’s just about impossible to reach a consensus with everyone. Why should a suburbanite who has never seen a salmon nor held a fishing rod contribute their tax dollars to a lost cause department like DFO. How do you tell a commercial fisherman in Campbell River that they can no longer target sockeye and chum in the straight and they will have to make a career change. How can you ask an aboriginal in Moricetown to abandon a on ancient tradition in the name of conservation that has only since been a problem since the colonizers showed up. How do we target and go after poachers in the high seas that drag nets around scooping up anything they can without persecution...... for that matter, how do we go after any poachers with progressively less money in the enforcement budget.

In my eyes, it’s about doing your part. Pick up the empty lure package on the river bank, take only what you need, advocate sustainability regardless of where you fish. Nobody wants to be the guy who shot the last buffalo, and hopefully it shouldn’t come to that, but if it does, take peace in knowing that you did what you could.

[bigsnag]

In my eyes, it’s about doing your part. Pick up the empty lure package on the river bank, take only what you need, advocate sustainability regardless of where you fish. Nobody wants to be the guy who shot the last buffalo, and hopefully it shouldn’t come to that, but if it does, take peace in knowing that you did what you could.

Thanks for posting BBarley.

[jim]

    Canada is such a boom and bust place to live and work, has been and continues. I remember the oldest brother talking with the parents after coming home from first year university, and boom and bust was a head shaking topic back in mid 60's.
  For instance, I have relatives in Sask. who got into the oil business in the 70's (I believe) and are now suffering the bust of Canada's oil sector. Should the Feds bail out Sask and Alta. regarding their massive mistake? Probably, but the Feds won't bail them out, or even meet with them.
 The Commercial fishing licences, get bought and then sold to a native usually, and then the boat is not worth much. Switching jobs is/has to be tough.
 The future of work continues to be a grim story. A business starts out telling employees that they are a family company, everybody knows and cares, etc. 20 years or less later and they have embraced a communist north korea shift system, 24/7, 361 days a year. Difficult to switch shifts, no weekends,very little overtime, never see the spouse or children, goes on and on...

[arimaBOATER]

The 3 first posts has so much good info I think a paperback book with 10 chapters could be written with the ideas presented!
Seen on the tv news a few weeks ago a research Russian ship with scientists or fishery experts? will be navigating the west coastal waters up to Alaska & try to get info on why the salmon stocks are declining.
Jim your post above mine...reminded me of a guy who's 96-98 yrs old...but he was a pilot for many many yrs.
Commercial & also flying single prop planes across the Atlantic like in the 40s or 50s or whenever it was.
But he said he & wife invested in oil wells in Southern States again many moons ago....50s or whatever.
It was good timing because he claimed he pulled in so much $$$ that he gave away millions to charities of his choice. His wife died ...not so long ago.
Remember in the story even in his early 90's he was running in marathons. Think it was 1/2 marathons & not the longer 26 mile ones.

[Fatso]

More food for thought....
Foreign and domestic fishing practises.
Nuclear and toxic  ocean dumpsites.
Human disregard for ocean pollution and litter especially in Asia and other emerging countries.

.... our domestic poacher isnt going to significantly impact salmon returns 🙃

[Fatso]

I still say, “ catch ‘em and eat ‘em “ while you still can because if we dont, someone else will!   

The writing is already on the wall.   

[Fatso]

around the world they have found the best way to protect marine areas and fisheries is to create Marine Protected Areas.

.... well there you have it.

Dont bother writing letters to the government because they done really want us recreational fisherman.
It just hasnt sunk in yet.   

[santefe]

Writing letters to government.  It is better to have and tried and failed than not to have tried at all.
It only takes a few minutes to send an e-mail to let an elected official get an earful what their constituants think.

[Fatso]

Ok, sounds good ! 👍