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wildmanyeah

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Re: Chinook Rebuilding, Maybe?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 04:28:09 PM »

an oldie but a goodie

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Re: Chinook Rebuilding, Maybe?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 04:32:24 PM »



Be curious to find out how they negotiate the shared fisheries with streams flowing out into the panhandle from northwestern BC such as the Stikine, Taku, Alsek, Tatshenshini.

they don't. They are mostly harvested by US commercial anglers though there is FN economic fisheries. I think attempts to have in river commercial fisheries in the Stikine etc mostly failed despite government support. You can include the upper Yukon Fish in that too. According to Wikipedia 35 to 50% of the Yukon's chinook return spawns in Canada including some in BC.

Unlike Canada, salmon in the US are managed by the state of origin. A State like Alaska has to agree to enter an international treaty and have the US government negotiate on their behalf. Alaska has mostly declined to do this so are no bound by most salmon treaties.
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Re: Chinook Rebuilding, Maybe?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2019, 04:45:15 PM »


Unlike Canada, salmon in the US are managed by the state of origin. A State like Alaska has to agree to enter an international treaty and have the US government negotiate on their behalf. Alaska has mostly declined to do this so are no bound by most salmon treaties.

That was mostly true until recently, washington state threatened to list more of its chinook stocks as endangered. Endangered fish fall under us federal law. Its how they got alaska to agree to more chinook cuts in the recent PST chinook chapter negotiations.
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Re: Chinook Rebuilding, Maybe?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2019, 10:17:59 PM »

https://craigmedred.news/2019/01/10/doa-king-fishery/

And now the Alaska chinook runs are failing.  This just may be a good thing for runs in BC, as Alaska chinook fishing looks to be substantially curtailed in 2019.

I'm wondering what the impact of winter chinook fisheries is in BC.  In WA, the winter blackmouth fisheries have very tight quotas, in part because catch & release mortaility is very high on winter caught fish (due to the depth where they are found).  Do the Vancounver or ECVI winter chinook fisheries commonly encounter undersize or otherwise not legal chinoook?  Are the winter chinook caught local to Vancouver often white chinook?  The winter fishery seems like it is a waste, as these fish need to grow and if they are caught later in the season, C&R mortality is much lower.  Thoughts?
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