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MetalAndFeathers

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Heads up Capilano
« on: June 01, 2018, 07:13:19 PM »

Just a heads up the natives have already put the weirs up and are completely blocking the river. So no fish will be pushing up anytime soon
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 09:22:19 PM »

That is just so sad. This system used to be the prior and joy of Vancouver early coho fishing. Now even the early season blue backs are off limit to the sporties.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 12:33:15 AM »



How long do they stay up for?

I don't know much about it, but aren't they only ffective when the river is really low? As soon as there's decent flow can't the fishies just go right over them?
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2018, 09:17:05 AM »

they are very effective and stay up until September / Oct big flush. cap stays low most of the times during summer time
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 09:21:50 AM by dobrolub »
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2018, 10:51:31 AM »

No need to waste time there.

See the report in the video below.

https://youtu.be/KFSdqWYJSlk
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2018, 11:23:12 AM »

It's always been a sad waste of money. That poor hatchery (Just like the Chehalis hatchery) is nothing more than a first nations food bank.

We all know it's the truth
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 11:26:25 AM by Hike_and_fish »
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2018, 01:14:13 PM »

Honestly I have a lot less a problem with this then the netting on wild stock Fraser or Squamish fish. When the river is low enough for the weirs to go up then hardly anything would be pushing up the system anyways even without any weirs in place. Let them have this one imo. Atleast it’s sustainable and doesn’t have an impact on future returns provided the hatchery gets their brood stock.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2018, 02:32:15 PM »

It's always been a sad waste of money. That poor hatchery (Just like the Chehalis hatchery) is nothing more than a first nations food bank.

We all know it's the truth

Pfft. So there is no economic value in the the very popular beach fishery, nor the in very large fleet of sport and guide boats that ply the waters during the summer and fall?
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2018, 05:15:07 PM »

This is not a forum on economics.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2018, 08:25:58 PM »

It has been my understanding that the hatchery on the Capilano was built for the Native food fishery what was destroyed when they built Cleveland Dam.  The sport fishing availability is a bonus.   Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2018, 10:16:33 PM »

Exactly what Clarki said.

Fish still make it past their little blockade....it's not like it's a gill net FFS.  It's food fishery too for them....leave it to rest and go fish the beaches or the cable pool
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2018, 08:06:09 AM »

Pfft. So there is no economic value in the the very popular beach fishery, nor the in very large fleet of sport and guide boats that ply the waters during the summer and fall?

most of the 'money' generated in not in the in river fishery. The Cap fishery is pretty limited in scope - crowded (in every sense) to a short piece of canyon water and as people mentioned there is not a lot of fishing through most of the summer - the water is too skinny. Blame the dam! The goal of federal hatcheries is not really to provide in river sport fisheries - that's just a by-product Weirs are a traditional FN harvest method and sizable numbers of fish get by them.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2018, 10:23:46 AM »

Exactly what Clarki said.

Fish still make it past their little blockade....it's not like it's a gill net FFS.  It's food fishery too for them....leave it to rest and go fish the beaches or the cable pool

Besides the lower blockage, they also do one higher up just below the Marine Drive Bridge. Fish can't get past that one even with the highest 16ft tide. It will be a wipe out of the early season stock if they block there too.
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2018, 11:20:50 AM »

What then is the main purpose of federal hatcheries?
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Re: Heads up Capilano
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2018, 11:58:20 AM »

Besides the lower blockage, they also do one higher up just below the Marine Drive Bridge. Fish can't get past that one even with the highest 16ft tide. It will be a wipe out of the early season stock if they block there too.

Garbage.  They always get by, keep watching the cable pool and the hatchery.  They get the bigger clipped ho's.

Besides it's a total hatchery show other than a handful of spots where they can even attempt to create a redd.
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