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[swimmingwiththefishes]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/train-derailed-halls-gate-1.4417840

[fishingwithjohn]

ffs

[wildmanyeah]

Damn pipelines

[poper]

Pipelines?

[poper]

Let’s be glad it was only a fuel tank from the engine that leaked and not something worse, and hopefully the train operater is ok.

[Dave]

Pipelines?

Perhaps he means if there are no future pipelines we can expect more, and far worse fuel spills by rail. 

[wildmanyeah]

Perhaps he means if there are no future pipelines we can expect more, and far worse fuel spills by rail.

Bingo, lucky it wasent a trail loaded full of crude.

[poper]

Oh I get it, pipelines are better then rail.If your transporting oil,I think trains might be used for other things as well.

[fishingwithjohn]

Let the debate begin...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/us/keystone-pipeline-leak/index.html

[Old Blue]

Let the debate begin...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/us/keystone-pipeline-leak/index.html

Don't compare our system to the US oversight of pipelines

[fishingwithjohn]

My comment was only made to suggest which has more catastrophic potential: Rail vs Pipeline...you took it in a completely different direction but if you insist here are some ones close to home...

British Columbia South Coast
July 15, 2005: 210,000 litres (1,320 barrels) of crude oil were leaked at the Sumas Tank Farm operated by Kinder Morgan (BC Metis Kinder Morgan Assessment, p. 4).

 

June 4, 2007: 69,950 litres (440 barrels) of crude oil were spilled at former Wahleach pump station, and reports indicate that the Kinder Morgan pipeline may have been leaking for weeks beforehand (BC Metis Kinder Morgan Assessment, p. 4).

 

July 24, 2007: 250,000 litres (1,500 barrels) of crude oil spilled out of the pipeline in Burnaby, BC. The crude oil flowed through neighbourhood storm sewers and ditches before entering and contaminating a large portion of Burrard Inlet (CBC).

 

May 6, 2009: An estimated 200,000 litres (1,260 barrels) of crude oil leaked from Kinder Morgan’s oil storage facility in Burnaby, BC (CBC).

 

January 24, 2012: An estimated 110,000 litres of crude oil leaked from Kinder Morgan’s oil storage facility on Sumas Mountain in Abbotsford (BC Metis Kinder Morgan Assessment, p. 4).

[fishingwithjohn]

https://globalnews.ca/news/1069624/how-do-crude-spills-compare-by-rail-truck-pipeline-you-may-be-surprised/

[Tylsie]

Interior steelhead just can't catch a break. I hope that everyoneon board is safe, and that a thorough investigation is conducted.

As for debate, Even if pipelines did spill more (which they don't!) I would take that over another Lac-Megnantic every single day!

[Shinny]

As for debate, Even if pipelines did spill more (which they don't!) I would take that over another Lac-Megnantic every single day!

Pipelines don’t leak?  Or have accidents?  have you been living under a rock?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents

http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/pipeline/2016/ssep-sspo-2016.asp

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-oil-pipeline-leaks-20150522-story.html

[Old Blue]

Pipelines don’t leak?  Or have accidents?  have you been living under a rock?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents

http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/pipeline/2016/ssep-sspo-2016.asp

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-oil-pipeline-leaks-20150522-story.html

The second link is a great read and shows direct stats within Canada and the past few years results are in direct correlation to recent changes and due diligence within Canada. 

Do pipelines leak...yes unfortunately.  Is the NEB oversight getting more and more strict....yes.  Are companies operating in Canada getting that much more progressive, frequent and strict on their inspections....yes. 

Keep new lines along existing right of way corridors and away from the BC northern coast for all bitumen based lines.  Protest for more oversight and emergency preparedness of existing lines especially near any and all rivers and streams.....rather than the usual "NO to any and all pipelines young and old everywhere in the country"