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[Tangles]

As I understand you're not a native BC person and possibly not a Canadian Citizen. If that's true I'd suggest you do a some contemplative study on your own

So this is a BC born Canadian Citizen ONLY forum, is that what you're saying?😂

[TimL]

So this is a BC born Canadian Citizen ONLY forum, is that what you're saying?😂

Then sadly many of us including me and Rod can't qualify then 😪😛

[GordJ]

So this is a BC born Canadian Citizen ONLY forum, is that what you're saying?😂

Or is he saying that the poster should take some time to research the facts behind the native issues before he proposes solutions?

[swimmingwiththefishes]

Pacific Salmon Commission
http://www.psc.org/FraserPnl/Status/FRP_Fraser_sockeye_pink_status.pdf

Seward Alaska? Not our fish.

Seems like the PSC has lots of data on Fraser fish but not much on other runs (skeena,Columbia etc) anyone know where to find catch escapement data for all of Westcoast fishery or different sources to determine total catch of FN/commercial/sport.

[StillAqua]

Seems like the PSC has lots of data on Fraser fish but not much on other runs (skeena,Columbia etc) anyone know where to find catch escapement data for all of Westcoast fishery or different sources to determine total catch of FN/commercial/sport.

Not sure where First Nations catches are but comms and rec are here:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/stats/index-eng.html

[RalphH]

Or is he saying that the poster should take some time to research the facts behind the native issues before he proposes solutions?

DING! GordJ has the correct answer.

Better yet know and understand the history and legal facts before opening one's mouth and proving oneself to be an idiot.

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better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it

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[RalphH]

Are you seriously going to keep ridiculing him on a message board?

No however I took him seriously and I don't anymore. Much the same with you.

Cheers!

[Sterling C]

DING! GordJ has the correct answer.

Better yet know and understand the history and legal facts before opening one's mouth and proving oneself to be an idiot.

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To elaborate on that point, the rhetoric being thrown around here and on social media right now isn't helping the situation. To anyone outside the sport fishing community and to many of us within it, this does nothing but hurt the image of sport fishermen making us appear racist, uneducated, narcissistic and acting only in our own self interest.

Between our attitudes and the way we've been acting I can see why we aren't being taken seriously.

[RalphH]

best place to look is here:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=fishery_search&ID=all

latest I found was here

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186800&ID=all

I bought fresh sockeye at Save On Burnaby yesterday

[chris gadsden]

best place to look is here:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=fishery_search&ID=all

latest I found was here

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186800&ID=all

I bought fresh sockeye at Save On Burnaby yesterday

Alaska?

[RalphH]

Alaska?

yeah possibly and maybe Siberia. Both produce way more sockeye than BC.

[rjs]

yeah possibly and maybe Siberia. Both produce way more sockeye than BC.

now do Fraser sockeye all mingle way out there, and are  they harvesting our fish ?

makes u wonder !

[RalphH]

both are mostly terminal fisheries (ie take place close to their natal rivers). IIRC Siberian fish tend to stay more in the Western North Pacific though is overlap. FWIW 70% of the Pacific Salmon biota in the North Pacific are Siberian pink salmon.

[hrenya]

To elaborate on that point, the rhetoric being thrown around here and on social media right now isn't helping the situation. To anyone outside the sport fishing community and to many of us within it, this does nothing but hurt the image of sport fishermen making us appear racist, uneducated, narcissistic and acting only in our own self interest.

Between our attitudes and the way we've been acting I can see why we aren't being taken seriously.

I agree . Maybe some old grumpy will change his attitude or at least try to control himself , he is not the only one here . I`m not saying I`m perfect , but I`m willing to learn and fish legit , and if people like him will throw **** at me and my buds , maybe he should re-think ?! Instead of calling me "troll" and "idiot" maybe  he should guide me the right way ?! If you will do that to another few people of my age , which I consider young generation , what kind of fishing attitude you expect to come in the future ?!

[RalphH]

I certainly haven't exhibited any racist, uneducated or narcissistic attitudes.