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Chris S

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Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« on: August 27, 2014, 10:56:19 PM »

I have a 10' medium Shimano Convergence rod set up with an inexpensive spinning reel spooled with 30lb braid, which casts a 2 oz weight double the distance then that of a friends 10.5' medium Shimano Convergence rod set up using an Abu C3 spooled with 62 lb braid.  My friend also has a 7' spinning rod with 30 lb braid that also casts further then the bait-caster rod/reel. 

We are disappointed in the casting performance of the new bait-caster and wondered how much difference would reducing the C3's braid to 30 lb make in casting distance (if any)?   
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Tenz85

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 05:59:52 AM »

Lighter line = further casts
But also
Light line = more break offs during snags and backfire casts.

Spinning reels outcast baitcasters but with practice you can get your baitcaster to bomb out just as far.
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 07:30:24 AM »

I upgraded my C3 with ABEC7 Ceramic bearings and dual bearing ceramic pawl and my casting distance increased by 50%.
You also need to keep your bearings clean to maintain performance.
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 07:36:42 AM »

I upgraded my C3 with ABEC7 Ceramic bearings and dual bearing ceramic pawl and my casting distance increased by 50%.
You also need to keep your bearings clean to maintain performance.

Stratocaster and I did the same thing with our reels and we're getting the same results!  Ultra smooth!  My C3 casts further and smoother than it did 10 years ago when it was brand new!  Too bad it's a back-up to my C4 that also has the upgraded bearings!  Stratocaster's Calcutta 400 B casts ridiculously far and smooth - more so than the C4 IMHO.  He also did the same for his C4.  The bearings make all the difference!
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 09:16:36 AM »

Must be something wrong with the C3.

Most baitcasters that I have seen cast as far or farther than a spinning reel.

I think that I can cast close to 200 ft with an upgraded 6500.
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:24 AM »

Silly question, perhaps, but i'm still going to throw it out there.

Is the brake set properly?

Is your technique the same? 

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2014, 09:18:31 AM »

Spool tension may be too high, or too much force by finger on spool.
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 10:47:10 AM »

First ,you can't compare spinning reel to levelwinder.
Second like other posters indicated ,well maintained gears makes a lot of difference.
Third casting technique.
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Chris S

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2014, 11:04:18 AM »

Yes the brake is set properly.
Technique is the same. Tried other techniques, but nothing else worked for us.
Reel was purchased new yesterday.

Does Mikes Real Repair do the upgrade and about how much did it cost you?

Thanks!
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Easywater

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2014, 11:26:13 AM »

Ceramic bearings are about $20 and take 5 minutes to install yourself.
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Chris S

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2014, 11:49:28 AM »

Thanks, where can we find the ceramic bearings?
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 12:17:34 PM »

X2 for the bearing upgrade, made a huge difference and yes Mikes does the upgrade but they are backed up right now with plenty of orders.
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 12:37:25 PM »

There are 6 brake weights on your spool.  I usually make sure I'm using 3 of them.  If you are using all 6 weights, chances are that may make the difference in the distance.  Check with Mikes to see if they have some ceramic bearings in stock and ask them if they have time to switch them out for you on the spot.  They charge about 7 bucks in Labour for switching them out on top of the 20 bucks for the price of the two bearings.  Also consider switching out your standard pawl for a ceramic one.  Supposed to be smoother and longer lasting.  About a 6 buck upgrade but well worth it.

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Chris S

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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 01:21:21 PM »

Yes we are using all six brake weights.  What would be the trade off of using just 3...wouldn't it increase chance of backlash?
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Re: Line size vs Casting distance on a baitcaster
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 01:27:21 PM »

X2 for the bearing upgrade, made a huge difference and yes Mikes does the upgrade but they are backed up right now with plenty of orders.

Mikes can do it on the spot, took my 400B in today and got ceramic bearings and pawl. Took about 20 mins. Time to test it out tomorrow.
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