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[Mr Z]

Hi everyone,

I've been an avid reader of the forum since last year when I started fishing Salmon. I used a baitcast setup so far which I liked but since I noticed I do quite a bit of casting and retrieving of lure I decided it’s time to get some spinning gears.

I would use it mainly for Coho on the beach, more occasionally Chum on the Harrison and Pinks on the Frasier.
I read around the forum and I came up with this setup. Would you mind to give me some feedback in case I overlooked something?

• Shimano Clarus CSS86M2B
• Shimano 3000
• Braided line 20lb (diameter should be 8lb mono equivalent). Fireline or Power Pro

I never used braided line but I heard a lot about it so I got curious and since I like to experiment with new things I thought, ‘why not’. The Clarus is a fast action rod so it should be good for braided (for what I read)

What do you guys think?

My budget is in the 200ish range.

Thanks a lot for your help

[adriaticum]

Use  monofilament.

[Nitroholic]

shimano 3000 what

[zap brannigan]

mono line would be better the thinner diameter braids bind up after fighting a fish.

[Mr Z]

Thanks for the feedbacks.

Use  monofilament.

Would you mind going more in details on why you recommend mono? I read up a bit about it I know there are pro and cons on both I'd like to better understand your perspective

mono line would be better the thinner diameter braids bind up after fighting a fish.

I heard that if you set the drag a bit softer you can avoid this issue.

shimano 3000 what

Good question. I guess at the moment I don't know yet. Something in the $100ish range. I guess next task for me is to go out and read up on shimano reels I always find shimano website pretty confusing. If you have suggetions on the subject please feel free to reccomend one.

[typhoon]

I have moved my Pink/Coho spinning reel to Berkley NanoFil 10lb line on the recommendation of Bent Rod. Haven't tried it yet but it is super thin.
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/line/nanoFil

[Rodney]

For your budget, look into either a Shimano Sahara FE or a Symetre FL.

I used that particular spinning rod last fall targeting coho salmon in the Tidal Fraser River. It was excellent. The tip is a bit thicker than what I prefer, but still sensitive enough. Beside coho salmon, I also fought a few chum salmon on the Chilliwack River with it. It might be a bit heavier than preferred for pink salmon, but a good rod for a variety of species if you are limited to purchasing only one rod.

[Mr Z]

Thanks a lot for the tips on the reel model Rodney. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed this rod seems like you used it to target similar species I'm also interested in. I don't mind too much about the pinks as they won't be my main target.

I have moved my Pink/Coho spinning reel to Berkley NanoFil 10lb line on the recommendation of Bent Rod. Haven't tried it yet but it is super thin.
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/line/nanoFil

typhoon, I never heard of this line before. I started researching about it and it seems to be really cool stuff. I have to say the extra casting ability of this line makes it very attractive in particular when fishing from the beach. I'm thinking of using the 12lb to better manage the occasional Chum on the Harrison.

[adriaticum]

Thanks for the feedbacks.

Would you mind going more in details on why you recommend mono? I read up a bit about it I know there are pro and cons on both I'd like to better understand your perspective

I heard that if you set the drag a bit softer you can avoid this issue.

Good question. I guess at the moment I don't know yet. Something in the $100ish range. I guess next task for me is to go out and read up on shimano reels I always find shimano website pretty confusing. If you have suggetions on the subject please feel free to reccomend one.

1. Braided line has been pushed by the bass guys and they fish mud waters. Steelhead and Salmon are fished in clear waters and braided line is visible.
2. Braided doesn't have any stretch and when you are float fishing it you feel every grain of sand in the water and that's not what you want. Well, not what I want.
    Bass guys never fish with float so they always fish with "feel" (retrieve) so it kind of works for them. When you are float fishing you should be focused on the float more.
3. The only guys you see fishing braided lines on the local rivers are frequently Fraser sockeye fishermen with their 10' leaders. They don't really fish, they hope to snag fish.
4. Braided line disrupts the quiet tranquility of fishing with the amount of noise it makes going through the rod guides.

The best thing is to try it and see for yourself.

[itosh]

1. Braided line has been pushed by the bass guys and they fish mud waters. Steelhead and Salmon are fished in clear waters and braided line is visible.  Use 10 ft of mono at the end of the braided line
2. Braided doesn't have any stretch and when you are float fishing it you feel every grain of sand in the water and that's not what you want. Well, not what I want.  Hmmm... if you are feeling every grain of sand maybe you are fishing too deep?... ideally your offering is not dragging bottom and anything you fish is either a fish or maybe a branch, not the bottom... less stretch when you set the hook... but if you like the feel of dragging bottom then braid is not for you
    Bass guys never fish with float so they always fish with "feel" (retrieve) so it kind of works for them. When you are float fishing you should be focused on the float more.... sooooo not true
3. The only guys you see fishing braided lines on the local rivers are frequently Fraser sockeye fishermen with their 10' leaders. They don't really fish, they hope to snag fish... sooooo not true
4. Braided line disrupts the quiet tranquility of fishing with the amount of noise it makes going through the rod guides.... perhaps slightly more noisy but insignificantly so... benefits i think outweigh the small amount of increase in noise

The best thing is to try it and see for yourself.

[bigblue]

For your budget, look into either a Shimano Sahara FE or a Symetre FL.

X2. I own both models and they are good value for money.
I have a Sahara 3000 loaded up with 8lb mono for coho and pink spoon fishing. Sweet reel.

[adriaticum]

Yeah you are right. Every day I go fishing I see all the pros using braid because it's really good and it works.
 

[Mr Z]

Thanks Adiaticum for the extra info and itosh to put a different perspective on it.

Just to clarify this setup will be used for casting and retrieving different lure like spoon and spinners. For float fishing I'll be using my baitcaster gears.

Actually, at the moment I'm getting very interested in the nanoFil line. It also has no stretch but apparently it is non visible to fish. Although I would generally use a leader in case of snagging. Plus it provides extra casting distance which to me is the most attractive feature for this setup, whether I want to gain some extra meters when casting from the beach or being able to cast a slightly lighter lure once in a while.

X2. I own both models and they are good value for money.
I have a Sahara 3000 loaded up with 8lb mono for coho and pink spoon fishing. Sweet reel.

Thanks I'll look into this model for sure

[Fillibert]

Don't want to derail the thread but the mono vs braid probably is the same as gear vs fly fishing or snowboard vs skiing argument. Eventually it catches on and only the purists care. Whatever is more comfortable for you, I love braid. The fact that I can feel every tug on the line helps me know if it's a bite, ram or just a brush. My buddy's "bite" to catch ratio is huge (I suspect a lot of those are lure hitting rocks or bottom), but with braid you know exactly when to set the hook. To each his own I guess.
Nanofil is quieter btw, worth the extra $

[Mr Z]

All right I pulled the trigger. It took a bit of running around to find the specific gears I wanted but now I'm all set.

At the end I got:

• Shimano Clarus CSS86M2B
• Shimano Sahara 4000. With some mono backing. (I could not find the 3000 and the 4000 felt pretty good on the 8'6" rod)
• nanoFil 17lb. The guys at the tackle store suggested 17 instead of 12 as he said non-stretch line break at a lower point than mono for the same rating

Tomorrow morning I'll go out and test the new equipment on Amblerside. Can't wait