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chris gadsden

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3060 on: May 09, 2018, 01:55:09 PM »

The PSF has enough clout to actually force changes in fish farming, and along with the anti FN groups, I think this will play into Horgan's decision to not renew a few contentious farm licences.
Interesting times ahead for the salmon farming industry in BC.  Any bets a few get involved in chinook recovery programs?
When I was in Victoria 2 weeks ago I got the indication when talking to a NDP Cabinet minister what you are saying could happen but we will see in June to confirm that the NDP will not renew some licenses. The opposition continues to mount. ;D

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« Reply #3061 on: May 09, 2018, 02:29:14 PM »

The PSF has enough clout to actually force changes in fish farming, and along with the anti FN groups, I think this will play into Horgan's decision to not renew a few contentious farm licences.
Interesting times ahead for the salmon farming industry in BC.  Any bets a few get involved in chinook recovery programs?

Funny you say that I just emailed seawest news and basically outlined that if they want to change the PR picture

That salmon farms need to put some of their budget into net pen projects and salmon enhancement to offset their impacts.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3063 on: May 10, 2018, 01:32:50 PM »

https://seawestnews.com/british-columbia-salmon-farming-and-viruses/

Seawestnews is starting to piss me off, They need to rethink their PR campaign.  Attacking the science with other science is clearly not working and with the PSF now on the side of removing fish farms the PR campaign needs to take a drastic shift.  PSF has to much clout as a neutral body to fight against.

Seawestnews needs to get together with the salmon farming industry and come up with some sort of wild stock enhancement program.  If land based fish farms cost 10 times is much then Fish farms must have some decent profits that can go into wild /hatchery/net pen enhancement.

They need to have some sort of positive PR that they can sell to fishermen and the public.

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3064 on: May 17, 2018, 09:37:30 PM »

NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
May 17, 2018
Contact: Ken Warheit, 360-902-2595

WDFW denies permit for company to place
800,000 Atlantic salmon into Puget Sound net pens

OLYMPIA – Citing the risk of fish disease transmission, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has denied permission for Cooke Aquaculture to transport 800,000 juvenile Atlantic salmon from its hatchery near Rochester to net pens at Rich Passage in Kitsap County.

In late April, Cooke applied for permission to move juvenile non-native salmon from its hatchery into pens in Kitsap County to replace adult fish that were recently harvested. Washington lawmakers enacted a bill earlier this year that will phase out Atlantic salmon net-pen aquaculture by 2022, but Cooke plans to continue to operate until then.

WDFW officials cited two factors in denying the permit that they said would increase the risk of disease transmission within the net pens and possibly to wild and hatchery-raised Pacific salmon outside the pens:

The population of Atlantic salmon that would have been transported from Cooke’s hatchery near Rochester tested positive for a form of the fish virus PRV (piscine orthoreovirus) that is essentially the same as the PRV that occurs at the Iceland hatchery from which Cooke receives Atlantic salmon eggs. The Icelandic form of PRV is not known to occur in the eastern Pacific Ocean or Puget Sound, so WDFW classifies it as “exotic” in Washington.

Cooke proposed to place fish into pens that have not been empty (or “fallow”) for at least 30 days after the most recent harvest of adult fish, and within a farm that still contains adult Atlantic salmon. These actions would contradict the company’s own management plan.

“Each of these factors raised an unacceptable risk of introducing an exotic strain of PRV into Washington marine waters,” said Ken Warheit, WDFW fish health manager. “This would represent an unknown and therefore unacceptable risk of disease transmission.”

Warheit said samples of the juvenile fish that would have been transported were collected by an independent licensed veterinarian under contract with Cooke. The samples were tested for PRV at the Washington Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory at Washington State University. Test results were confirmed at the U.S. Geological Survey’s Washington Fisheries Research Center.

Until recently, Cooke operated up to nine net pens in Puget Sound, including one at Cypress Island in Skagit County that collapsed last August and allowed approximately 250,000 Atlantic salmon to escape. The company’s latest permit application is not related to the Cypress Island operation or the August mishap.

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3065 on: May 20, 2018, 02:55:36 PM »

That's great news Chris - I've been going on about Cooke for a long time after seeing the rubbish they pull oin the east coast.


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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3067 on: May 24, 2018, 12:12:50 PM »

Fish farms vs wild caught salmon. Why fish farms? A) $$$$$$$ making B ) meets restaurant demands / regular supply.
Bottom line salmon is considered a healthy food product. There's your plate of pan fried or oven baked BC (farm) salmon,with vegetables,salad,side of fries or yams. Bill is $35 in this dining place.
Person may be very well off & eats the same dish many times per week.
Oh what about either the UBC or SFU study that was in either in The Sun or The Province newspaper in the 1990s. Do remember CLEARLY the article stated to eat a farm salmon max. 1x per month!!!!!!!!!!!
Because of all the chemicals that were found in the fish!!!!!!!
I mean soft ice cream is also tasty but do we eat a giant bowl of it for breakfast lunch & supper??? No.
If experts recommend to eat only 1 farm salmon per month what does that tell you ????
Unhealthy to eat regularly.
Does the average eater think of that looking at a menu. No. We have warnings on cig packages & should there not be a warning on the menu that farm salmon should be eaten max. 1x per month ? Of course.
If it gets well known this is an unhealthy choice the demand will decrease by 80% me thinks.
Too many think it 's a healthy choice when the opposite is true. 
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3069 on: May 27, 2018, 11:53:31 AM »

Chris your favorite anti fish farm group is now calling for a stop to all recreational chinook salmon fishing.


Ottawa’s plan to limit Chinook Salmon fishing to help resident orcas gets mixed reaction
Posted By: Isabelle Raghemon: May 26, 2018In: CHEK, News
WATCH: Federal government announced this week it will be reducing the total fishery removals for Chinook salmon by up to 35 per cent. The plan is getting mixed reactions. Isabelle Raghem reports.


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Ottawa is getting mixed reactions to its plan to protect southern resident killer whales by putting limits on Chinook salmon fishing, the orcas' primary food.

"This notion that somehow you can simply say well if everyone stopped fishing, the whales would be better off or the fish would be better off simply makes no sense," says the Chair of the Sport Fishing Advisory Board, Gerry Kristianson.

Kristianson says while the group wants to be part of the solution, he fears the fishing community is being unfairly singled out.

"Whale watchers, commercial crab fishing, all these other things continue to take place... this will mean that in effect the recreational fishery is being sacrificed when others are not being asked to make the same contribution."

In the announcement, the Ministry of Fisheries says they will be implementing "a reduction in the total fishery removals of chinook salmon of 25-35 percent," and placing "fishery closures for recreational finfish and commercial salmon fisheries in portions of the Strait of Juan De Fuca and portions of the Gulf Islands."

But the director of the Watershed Salmon Watch Society says 35 per cent isn't going far enough.

"There's this huge array of threats so when we're confronting these threats we need to address the ones that we can and certainly reduce the over-fishing of these endangered Chinook population is something we can do right now," says Aaron Hill.

"[Chinook Salmon] are in severe crisis and so there really isn't any fishing to be done on them at all," he adds.


There still many questions surrounding this plan that have not yet been answered including how it will be implemented and where. Those are details expected to come out in the coming weeks.

The Sport Fishing Advisory Board would like to see the government work to produce more Chinook salmon rather than limiting anglers.

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3071 on: June 02, 2018, 04:30:28 PM »

A Notice of Intention to Apply for a Disposition of Crown Land under the Land Act is currently underway by Albeit Aquaculture Corp.

This Corporation is wanting to establish a freshwater Aquaculture farm to raise a subspecies of landlocked Atlantic Salmon native to fresh waters of a province in Argentina.

The legal description of the land is MoT highway right of way, District Lot 5915 RDCK South Terminus of Taghum Hall Road (Nelson).
Albeit Corporation will receive comments up until June 30, 2018. Please share this on your social media sites.
If you have an objection, please let Albeit Corp know, as well as our local MLA Katrine Conroy

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3072 on: June 02, 2018, 05:05:17 PM »

A Notice of Intention to Apply for a Disposition of Crown Land under the Land Act is currently underway by Albeit Aquaculture Corp.

This Corporation is wanting to establish a freshwater Aquaculture farm to raise a subspecies of landlocked Atlantic Salmon native to fresh waters of a province in Argentina.

The legal description of the land is MoT highway right of way, District Lot 5915 RDCK South Terminus of Taghum Hall Road (Nelson).
Albeit Corporation will receive comments up until June 30, 2018. Please share this on your social media sites.
If you have an objection, please let Albeit Corp know, as well as our local MLA Katrine Conroy

Address / Contact Info
Kootenay West Constituency Office
2 - 1006 3rd Street Castlegar, BCV1N 3X6
Phone : (250) 304-2783
Toll-free : 1-888-755-0556
Fax : (250) 304-2655

not in my backyard ...

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/535/633/992/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3074 on: June 02, 2018, 08:35:27 PM »

David Suzuki has been asked whether the bad press that his foundation has generated about salmon farming is part of a “demarketing” campaign to prop up demand for Alaskan salmon.


Suszki also wants to stop all wild chinook salmon fishing by recreational fishermen.

https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/petition-for-srkw-emergency-order_2018-01-30.pdf


the poaching for salmon is gonna go up 10 fold

There is no way to support getting rid of fish farms without supporting the same people that want to put an end to recreational fishing.

Recreational fishermen and salmon farms are in the same boat we both kill wild salmon..sure looks like recreational fishermen kill more tho
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