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troutbreath

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #600 on: December 15, 2013, 09:23:50 AM »

Dave's buddy? Anyway he's a paid shill for the bunch of foreigners who own and run Mainstream. He don't run anything but his mouth :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #601 on: December 15, 2013, 09:31:19 AM »

Dave's buddy? Anyway he's a paid shill for the bunch of foreigners who own and run Mainstream. He don't run anything but his mouth :)

Selling out our heritage for a few bucks TB. But if you repeat the same BS over and over again.......
You become Bawb Loblaw! ;)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #602 on: December 15, 2013, 10:16:22 AM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #603 on: December 16, 2013, 08:01:32 AM »

American born Doc Morton should have included salmon farming in the US as well. Since any one in the world can sign her petition, it looks more like a marketing campaign. :)

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/honesty_in_political_ads/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #604 on: December 16, 2013, 08:49:12 AM »

American born Doc Morton should have included salmon farming in the US as well. Since any one in the world can sign her petition, it looks more like a marketing campaign. :)

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/honesty_in_political_ads/

Still got the big hate on for Americans Farmfisher Bawb Loblaw? But you adore the Norwegians?
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #605 on: December 16, 2013, 08:57:20 AM »

Still got the big hate on for Americans Farmfisher Bawb Loblaw? But you adore the Norwegians?
Unlike you, I listen to people that get it right these days. Let me shortend your post to three words NB. :). Blah blah blah.

http://www.bcsalmonfacts.ca/#!/fact/research
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #606 on: December 16, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »

Unlike you, I listen to people that get it right these days.

http://www.bcsalmonfacts.ca/#!/fact/research
When Tony Farrell speaks, wise people listen.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #607 on: December 16, 2013, 01:00:02 PM »

When Tony Farrell speaks, wise people listen.

And all the rest are buffoons?
Who signs his paycheque? ;)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #608 on: December 16, 2013, 03:05:04 PM »

And all the rest are buffoons?
Who signs his paycheque? ;)
Well, he has made many people feel that way, including me.  He is really quite brilliant and does not suffer fools; a world class fishery scientist with questionable people skills …
As a university professor I suppose you and I are paying his salary, and I'm fine with my share :D
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #609 on: December 16, 2013, 09:22:15 PM »

Well, he has made many people feel that way, including me.  He is really quite brilliant and does not suffer fools; a world class fishery scientist with questionable people skills …
As a university professor I suppose you and I are paying his salary, and I'm fine with my share :D
So a Shoeswap Steve type huh? The world is running short of people with the rare hybrid of self styled intellectually arrogant. :o ;) Bookworm with very few social graces. ::) Sorry Dave, I don't suffer fools well either. ;D - I'm not inferring you in this case. More bawbish.
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troutbreath

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #610 on: December 16, 2013, 10:02:29 PM »

chortle^  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #613 on: December 19, 2013, 11:23:09 PM »

http://salmonfarmscience.com/2013/12/19/junk-science-attack-on-processing-plant-gets-its-facts-totally-wrong/

From the authors of the study: "Marine salmon farms and their processing facilities can serve as sources of virulent fish pathogens; our study is the first to confirm the broadcast of a live fish pathogen from a farmed salmon processing facility into the marine waters of Canada’s Pacific coast.”

Fact is that this processing plant processes wild (Sockeye, Pink) and farmed salmon as well as shellfish and other finfish species (like sardines and herring). Not sure what this study shows because this facility is clearly not just a farmed salmon processing facility.  How did they break out what part was from farmed and what part was from wild fish?  What were the controls?  I would like to read this study more, but so far from the press release it looks pretty biased.  Sea lice can be brought back by migrating adult wild salmon on their way back to their natal areas.  Wild Sockeye salmon can carry IHNV and other pathogens (see Cohen Technical Report #1).  I agree with critics of this study that more than one processing plant should have been looked at in order to make it more meaningful.

Take a look at the products available from Walcan:
http://www.bcspecialtyfood.ca/company-details.php?companyID=145 
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #614 on: December 20, 2013, 08:55:48 AM »

This study certainly is a piece of work again by the usual suspects.  Did it really take a study to come the the conclusion?  Of course it was happening.  But the study, if was really targeting salmon farms, should of used a wild processing facility as a control and they did not for the obvious reasons.  They will find that the results are the same.  Given this and the fact that this has been happening(with wild fish processing) for about 100 years one has to wonder what the effect has been.  Maybe there is an effect.  I am not saying there isn't.  I am saying that the practice existed consistently for 70 or more years before salmon farming ever existed and it still exists today with commercial processing and sport fishing.  Who does not bleed there fish where they caught it in the river or in the chuck?  Salmon farmers are smart to take the precautionary approach and use filters to reduce/eliminate the potential risk if there is a risk.  Who is going to follow their example?

I am glad that this study was done because it shows the intentions of the researchers involved and it is a prime example of what the peer review process is capable of producing.  It certainly raises allot of questions.
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