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wildmanyeah

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2895 on: February 08, 2018, 08:32:36 PM »

lead the way and invest, thinking it can be done easily is free. :)
  http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/land-based-atlantic-salmon-farm-ordered-to-shut-down-as-buyer-sought

Preaching to the choir, I was delighted because it's better than his typical rhetoric. 

Also how is a land based operation suppose to compete when their is cheaper ocean pens available. Do you go to the mall or do you buy it off amazon?
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2897 on: February 10, 2018, 02:09:41 PM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2898 on: February 10, 2018, 03:26:56 PM »

Fisherbob,

unfortunately I don't think the truth matters, like it or not fish farms seem to be the new punching bag and if sockeye don't come back this year i can guarantee everyone will be pointing at fish farms weather that had anything to do with it or not.   

It seems some refuse to think that climate change and other things like pollution are having an effect on our environment and our fish stocks. People are always looking for a quick easy fix and they are hoping that fish farms are that fix. 
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« Reply #2899 on: February 10, 2018, 03:36:24 PM »

Fisherbob,

unfortunately I don't think the truth matters, like it or not fish farms seem to be the new punching bag and if sockeye don't come back this year i can guarantee everyone will be pointing at fish farms weather that had anything to do with it or not.   

It seems some refuse to think that climate change and other things like pollution are having an effect on our environment and our fish stocks. People are always looking for a quick easy fix and they are hoping that fish farms are that fix.
Having activists encouraging "the quick fix" on social media is helping this whole anti fish farming movement along very quickly.  It will be up to the politicians, not scientists, if BC continues to be progressive and have fish farms.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2901 on: February 17, 2018, 12:04:26 PM »

https://www.ktoo.org/2018/02/12/atlantic-salmon-grower-calls-effort-ban-fish-farms-puget-sound-foolishness/


“The family-owned Canadian company took over the Washington locations in 2016 after buying Seattle-based Icicle Seafoods. Cooke is now the only commercial-scale operator of Atlantic salmon net pens in Washington waters.”

Protectionist policies, easy to stop fish farms when your only effecting a foreign company. So typical of what happens to Canadian company’s in the USA.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2905 on: February 28, 2018, 01:58:03 PM »

ah, common sense ...
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2906 on: February 28, 2018, 04:40:13 PM »

ah, common sense ...
Common sense says, Fish Farms Out. :P :-X

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« Reply #2907 on: February 28, 2018, 07:24:14 PM »

https://www.ktoo.org/2018/02/12/atlantic-salmon-grower-calls-effort-ban-fish-farms-puget-sound-foolishness/


Protectionist policies, easy to stop fish farms when your only effecting a foreign company. So typical of what happens to Canadian company’s in the USA.

It must be because of the fabulous wages Cooke pays Canadians - $12.35/hr -  wages that are so bad, they're bringing in people from the Philippines and Russia under the TFW because unless you're living with Mom and Dad or have a trust fund, you don't have a chance to get ahead. I wonder what family supporting wages were paid to American workers?
I'm 100 % patriotic all Canadian and support success to most Canadian business, but there's parameters. 
 
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« Reply #2908 on: March 01, 2018, 10:06:38 AM »

It must be because of the fabulous wages Cooke pays Canadians - $12.35/hr -  wages that are so bad, they're bringing in people from the Philippines and Russia under the TFW because unless you're living with Mom and Dad or have a trust fund, you don't have a chance to get ahead. I wonder what family supporting wages were paid to American workers?
I'm 100 % patriotic all Canadian and support success to most Canadian business, but there's parameters.

Very well then,

But you know if this was a 100% American company that the situation would be different, When it shows up in headlines in Washington that a Canadian company is responsible and also owns all the fish farms that politically it's far easier to spin to get your desired results. 

also if you don't think that Protein rich farm salmon helps poor people think again. Fish farms keep the price down and make it more available to those who don't otherwise have access to rich protean.

http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/how-greedy-mcdonalds-became-the-most-effective-poverty-fighter-in-the-country

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The future of fish farming

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinio...-commentary/future-fish-farming/#.WpWyFa7typo

Plenty of Fish on the Farm
Why Clean Energy Is Key for Next-Generation Aquaculture

https://thebreakthrough.org/index.php/issues/the-future-of-food/plenty-of-fish-on-the-farm

"Aquaculture is a crucial supplement to wild-capture harvests, and fish are more efficient at converting feed into protein than pigs or cows, so farmed fish generally has lower environmental impacts than meat."

It should also be noted that I have always been a proponent of land-based recirculating systems However this will only be possible though regulations not though draconian government knee jerk measures. I also believe the Canadian government should subsidize LBRS systems so the company's can remain competitive internationally. 

 
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