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KP

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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2012, 07:02:34 PM »

I'm sitting here wondering how I respond to DT and EZ.  I sure wish it was as easy as D.  seems to think it is.  I've seen many whom do exactly what D describes and for the most part they do sit in there chair and the only difference is, I catch fish.  I think I would like to have you sitting beside me on the bar.  Might be we would get along just fine.  You would realize in a short while just how knowing what the frack you are doing can produce results which can be gratifying.  Then again you could end up being like most of the fisherpeople who are beside me.  They ALL  end up coming by to investigate.  I learned to pay attention long ago and I also paid attention to what some good bar fisherpeople were doing.  So I will leave it at that.
 Seems however that Mr Perfect (EZ) has never done a thing in his life which he now regrets.  I must commend you on that.   I however was lured to the dark side as an unknowing padowen.  I quickly learned how strong the dark side was and broke free into the light.
If the truth be told  in regard to harvesting sockeye as we know it.  I hope people are starting to realize that fishery is abundance based.  In other words you get to harvest your own sockeye rather than buy them from others if there is a surplus.  This year, no surplus, no fishery.  It is not a yearly recreational fishery.  It is a harvest fishery.  It should not be governed by sportfishing regulations.  Unfortunately DFO just doesn't get it and probably never will.  So the result is we deal as we are now.  Seems flawed to me.
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #196 on: September 15, 2012, 12:07:29 PM »



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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #197 on: September 15, 2012, 12:21:02 PM »

Proof once again that red wool is the ticket ;)
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #198 on: September 15, 2012, 03:29:40 PM »





Horrible. Is that the same sturgeon Rodney? I hope that sturge spooled all his line out or took the rod right out of his hands and into the river. Poor choice of a fishing technique.
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #199 on: September 15, 2012, 04:42:07 PM »

Horrible. Is that the same sturgeon Rodney? I hope that sturge spooled all his line out or took the rod right out of his hands and into the river. Poor choice of a fishing technique.

They're two different fish, caught on different days.

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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #200 on: September 15, 2012, 06:57:03 PM »

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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #201 on: September 15, 2012, 10:07:52 PM »

A nice relaxing day on the river :)
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #202 on: September 15, 2012, 10:45:47 PM »

A nice relaxing day on the river :)

Sorry, but it's hard to tell if your just joking or truly being an idiot, please fill us in.

anyways,

Horrible sight to see, but I guess one could show the DFO what the snaggers can do with a poor method of what they call fishing. ::)
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #203 on: September 16, 2012, 10:14:53 AM »

They're two different fish, caught on different days.

Very unfortunate. DFO advices to not snag to protect late run Sockeye yet sturgeon are far more endangered year round. It kust truly shows you that flossing is nothing but illegally snagging fish but the wool is the loop hole... >:(
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #204 on: September 16, 2012, 12:47:37 PM »

Horrible sight to see
Agreed.

I guess one could show the DFO what the snaggers can do with a poor method of what they call fishing. ::)
While they're at it, perhaps showing them the vids of sturgeon newbs cutting their line on big or foul hooked sturgeon, and sharing the stories of fish pulled up with sturgeon rods + reels still attached would help. Not sure that pounds of weight + yards of line hanging from their mouth makes for happy, healthy fish.

It just truly shows you that flossing is nothing but illegally snagging fish but the wool is the loop hole... >:(
All it shows is that two sturgeon have been snagged at some point in time. Most experienced bottom bouncers will likely attest that hooking fish in such a manner, whilst bottom bouncing, is a rare occurance; much more common is in the side of the head or inside the mouth -- especially if one doesn't "set" the hook if there is no hit. I'm not saying that there aren't more sturgeon swimming around out there with 3/0 hooks in their backs, just that there probably aren't that many. Is one too many? Depends on who you ask. Would be interesting to hear from a seasoned sturgeon angler as to what % of the fish they bring to hand are wounded in such a manner; haven't read many such reports (and there is a long sturg thread on another board).

FYI B420:
"Your basic fishing licence entitles you to angle ... fish (with or without a rod) with one fishing line to which only one hook, one artificial lure OR one artificial fly is attached." (2011-2013 Synopsis, p. 9). In other words, wool's not a loophole; one can fish with a bare hook if he/she so chooses.

Tight lines m8
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #205 on: September 16, 2012, 12:53:15 PM »

All it shows...

Oh yeah, that's all.... lol... I'm glad I didn't make a big deal out of nothing.

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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #206 on: September 16, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »

Rod(ney),

I hope you don't think that's what I was saying. I have no issue w/ the pics you posted; as I said, I agree that they're a horrific sight. In fact, I thank you for posting them up; they've caused me to further reconsider my angling practices.

Big deal out of nothing? Certainly not; it's a big (your words, not mine) deal out of something. But should it be (a big deal, that is)? The question isn't rhetorical; I really don't know. Again, what percentage of landed sturgeon have a 12 foot leader hanging from their backs, and what is the likelihood that such a fish develops an infection and dies as a result of such a wound? That is what will determine how serious of an issue this is. There is no doubt that "bottom bouncing"/dredging/flossing the Fraser is an unselective fishing method but -- again -- I think that anecdotal evidence will probably suggest that sturgeon are infrequently foul hooked by this practice.

Perhaps a more efficient use of resources would be to inform sturgeon anglers about proper gear/technique: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUIFow5gQ0&feature=player_embedded ?? Again, a serious question; I'm interested in knowing who/what does more damage to this endangered fish stock. Also, are sturgeon hardier than most fish or something? I've heard some can survive out of water for 24hours and that 2 hour photo ops aren't unheard of (though not recommended), so I'm guessing the constant, lactic-acid producing struggles and release back into tepid water isn't really as much of a concern as it is with other fish...
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #207 on: September 16, 2012, 08:27:14 PM »

2 hour photo sessions?
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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #208 on: September 16, 2012, 08:37:27 PM »

Once a few years ago a sturgeon was caught and looked like a Christmas tree. :o

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Re: 2012 floss-out
« Reply #209 on: September 16, 2012, 09:57:17 PM »







Im surprised liketofish and Athezone arent screaming Photoshopped!!! ;D ;D ;D
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