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No more IHN: Update & other items worth reading.
« on: June 14, 2012, 10:02:44 AM »

Public Update (2): IHN and BC Salmon Farms
BCSFA, Friday, June 1, 2012
Forty nine of the active salmon farms in BC have now come back testing negative for the Infectious Haematopoietic Necrosis (IHN) virus.
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/public-update-2-ihn-and-bc-salmon-farms

IHN virus gone from BC farms
Extensive testing shows no sign of the virus that caused the culling of Atlantic salmon from a farm on the west coast of Vancouver Island. Two farms with previous low findings get clean bill of health
FishfarmingXpert, Odd Grydeland, June 5, 2012
http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=95060

The IHN virus is naturally carried by wild Pacific salmon and is low risk to them, but can be a high risk to Atlantic salmon.
Fact Information, Mainstream Canada, May 31, 2012
http://www.mainstreamcanada.com/ihn-virus-naturally-carried-wild-pacific-salmon-and-low-risk-them-can-be-high-risk-atlantic-salmon

Reasonable people will see the light
By Mary Ellen Walling, Courier-Islander June 6, 2012
Re: Trying to Get Answers, Elena Edwards, Courier-Islander May 30
Members of the BC Salmon Farmers Association share extensive amounts of information regularly:...Regardless of all that proactive work, there are anti-salmon farm campaigners who will argue that our farmers are secretive, and who will lie to support their assertions. We, however, will continue this work, with the belief that reasonable, critical thinkers will see the effort and appreciate it.
Mary Ellen Walling Executive Director BC Salmon Farmers Association
http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/reasonable-people-will-see-light-about-bc-salmon-farming

Viruses in salmon no problem for humans
By Ian Roberts, Times Colonist June 5, 2012
Re: "Fish-farm viruses cause for concern," May 30.
A virus in salmon should not be a concern at all.
Every drop of sea water has about 10 million viruses. All foods we eat contain viruses. The specific virus the writer is disturbed about in farm-raised salmon is the same virus found in most wild salmon, especially sockeye. Safe to eat, with no risk to human health.
I hope these facts help the writer feel confident eating B.C. salmon and seafood.
http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/viruses-salmon-no-problem-humans

Viruses are everywhere, part of our natural environment
By Grant Warkentin, Vancouver Sun June 4, 2012
Re: Fish infections raise issue of public's right to know, Letters, May 30
Viruses can be found in practically all of the meat, and even in the vegetables, we buy at local supermarkets.
Does this sound scary? It isn't. Viruses are everywhere, and are part of our natural environment. They are the most abundant form of life on this planet. And almost all of them pose no risk to animal or human health.
http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/viruses-are-everywhere-and-are-part-our-natural-environment

Sea lice science ain’t done yet
Salmon Farm Science, June 7, 2012
The science is never done, even if some people think they’ve “figured it out.” And it’s a good thing researchers haven’t given up on researching sea lice in B.C. because we apparently still have an awful lot still to learn.
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2012/06/07/sea-lice-science-aint-done-yet/

Okisollo and Hoskyn Channel salmon farm updates: May/June 2012
BCSFA, Thursday, June 7, 2012
The latest update regarding salmon farms in Okisollo and Hoskyn channels is now available.
As of the first week of June, five of the nine farm sites in the channels are operating, with one site completing harvest since our last update.
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/okisollo-and-hoskyn-channel-salmon-farm-updates-mayjune-2012

B.C. fish lab gets federal funding
Campbell River-based Centre for Aquatic Health Sciences receives a much deserved injection of cash that will enable the facility to continue to shed light on issues associated with both wild and farmed fish
FishfarmingXpert, Opinion, Odd Grydeland, June 4, 2012
http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=95047

I too just returned from a fishing trip plagued with rain and trout ;D

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Re: No more IHN: Update & other items worth reading.
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 11:05:41 AM »


Sea lice science ain’t done yet
Salmon Farm Science, June 7, 2012
The science is never done, even if some people think they’ve “figured it out.” And it’s a good thing researchers haven’t given up on researching sea lice in B.C. because we apparently still have an awful lot still to learn.
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2012/06/07/sea-lice-science-aint-done-yet/


"Conclusions:  Sea lice from salmon farms may harm wild salmon, but it’s not certain......"

This is the conclusion that the feedlots have happily reached.......   why don't I feel more confident that they actually care about the survival of the wild salmon??   ::)
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 11:32:01 AM »

I can't get my noodle around how some people question Morton's integrity and then happily greet every piece of propaganda from  Mary Ellen Walling as fact. :-\

what's her credentials other than spinning?
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 05:52:35 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 09:07:09 PM »

http://www.maryellenwalling.com/

"Mary Ellen Walling, a long time resident of the British Columbia coast, is a collaborative communicator, with extensive contacts in business, government and First Nations communities in British Columbia Canada. As Executive Director of the BC Salmon Farmers Association she plays a key role working with her Board of Directors to establish and implement long-range goals and objectives for BC's salmon farmers. She has a broad depth of experience in applied marketing, public relations and promotion, as well as developing and managing internal and external consulation and communications plans with particular focus on risk communications. She has a Masters degree from Royal Roads University in Applied Communications.

She is sought out for her engaging speaking style in a wide variety of venues. She was awarded the Business Leader of the Year in Campbell River by the Campbell River Chamber of Commerce in 2009."

Her credentials are that she is a really good speaker and promoter.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 10:16:14 PM »

Her credentials are that she is a really good speaker and promoter.

I do not know what else one would expect.  Should she be crying half the time and promote salmon farms via emotional pleading with the public making sky falling predictions based on shoddy science?

To be a good speaker and promoter one should have many contacts and know what the heck one is talking about and know it well. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 10:37:27 PM »

She's like a female Joseph Goebels  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 10:46:49 PM »

"Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1. There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] ..............For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 11:00:40 PM »

"Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1. There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] ..............For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Ah, you beat me to the punch. :P
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 09:33:28 AM »

Ha, I was ony thinking of another shameless propagandist. :)
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 11:00:12 AM »

Ms. Morton is a far better example.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 11:08:05 AM »

Discovery of deadly salmon virus in freshwater fish puts pressure on B.C. to conduct wider study

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/Discovery+deadly+salmon+virus+freshwater+fish+puts+pressure+conduct+wider+study/6959173/story.html#ixzz215pL3PFN
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 11:43:19 AM »

CTV also aired a brief excerpt on the new found virus on freshwater fishes. They called them wild trouts in the ocean.  ??? ??? Most likely we be on the news again tonight.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 12:12:55 PM »

Yes, and it happens to be the "Norwegian" strain of the virus, and it's been found in a Cultus lake trout.

Not a lot of guessing to conclude that a Cultus lake sockeye swam past an ocean based salmon feedlot, picked up the virus and carried it back to Cultus.....  Interesting that CFIA is not planning on testing for that particular virus.

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