Too bad you didnt heed what you wrote before.
Calling Rodney a traitor to his culture just re-enforces your stupidity...
I was calling a stop to posting on the soup because we are repeating the same points. But Rodney came back with a personal insult of the utmost kind without any attempt to debate point by point. Why? Just because he is the mod here so he can make such insulting post? If he were a poster like you and me, such tone or language may not be tolerated. I believe he owes an apology. I am coming back to post because of the insulting attack on my attempt to protect our cultural heritage (at least in large part of China) to have the soup for important ceremonies, much like you folks in the West eating turkey for festivities.
We have to be civil in our debate forum. If the mod set such example, how can we blame anyone from jumping on posters' mistakes or different points of view with name calling or insulting terms. Sorry I didn't say he is a traitor. You said it. I don't consider him a traitor, because he happens to be educated and lived most of his life outside of China/Taiwan. Particularly with his field of study, I can understand he will identify more with the scientists out there. Who is he anyway outside of this forum? Whatever he believes is his own personal belief, and this forum is too small an influence outside of the fishing readership. Actually, the person a lot of us cultural Chinese in HK consider a 'traitor' of sort is a famous NBA athlete, who was considered a national hero of sort, and probably still is. But his image is greatly tarnished in the mind of cultural Chinese at large due to his joining with the extremist movement against the soup. He is not from southern China, so not sure if he eats the soup or not. But while he profits handsomely from his Chinese root (in huge Chinese endorsement), he joined the extremist movement & became a spokesman of sort, without truly understanding the kind of folks behind the movement. I remembered in the several banquets I attended in HK, everyone was blaming this guy and the gwai lo trying to force their view on us.
Sorry to say, some of these animal rights folks have terrorist inclination. You think I invent the story that the anti-soup groups consider the tragedy of the Japanese tsunami a karma for their killing the shark, and implying that they deserve their fate? Try google it and see how many you can find, or read this author who tries to counter the view: http://www.alexhofford.com/node/2378
These fanatics, having done the damage to the Inuit's seal hunt, and spraying paint on people's fur coat, are now focussing their hate on China town and any one daring to oppose their anti-shark-fin stance. This is just one of the hate cases on it. Will we see poisons, bombs & what-have-u in our China towns or any Chinese businesses? What's next if this anti movement is pushed to fanatical level by our own MPs & government?: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/02/hate-crimes-unit-called-in-after-purported-animal-rights-group-threatens-to-poison-food-in-chinatown/
Do you Chinese want to see the day when you don't feel secured in any places where Chinese frequented, when anti-Chinese sentiment is fermented vehemently by the anti-shark-fin movement? I don't think I want to see that day. To have our MPs legitimizing such sentiment directly & indirectly is a total waste of my tax money, and at least I can protest their involvement in this. We have more urgent tasks to protect our own environment and our wild salmon. Deal with that first and what is wrong with my opinion? Why is that stupid?
Am I alone in thinking the west is being hypocritical about imposing ban on our cultural dish while they can enjoy caviar, tuna, & Japanese whales? Read this: http://necescity.com/dining/item/1449-shark-fin-soup-%E2%80%93-a-battle-for-hegemony-between-east-west?.html
This report in Taiwan shows that majority of cultural Chinese want their soup despite the utmost media blize started by the other side, as most major hotels still serve the dish. However, the ending part of the report shows there is the tendency to bring the whole shark back for use instead of dumping over the sea to satisfy the so called wastage factor in the attack (which I consider hypocritical comparing how much wastage in shrimp fleet). The industry will comply to more regulation, perhaps even a quota. That is the way to go. Not banning the dish is an encroachment to our culture. Read: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2011/11/27/2003519318
Again, I am for countries engaging in meaningful negotiations on regulating the shark harvest industry, both in method & number. Banning shark fin without exhausting such process is an assault on our culture, when more endangered species are still being harvested in the west or Japan, and when more wasteful fishing methods like shrimp trawling & drift nets are not stopped. I am proud to stand & defend our cultural heritage. If that is considered utmost stupidity by another Chinese, I have no respect for such person and no apology forthcoming. If my points are not acceptable, debate it. Considering that negative ads are all over the media in the State in their presidential bid, where folks are giving reasons to back up their points against your opponents, I am doing mine against those extremist groups who try to encroach on our culture like they try to do it to the Inuit. If that is stupidity, so be it. If defending Chinese pride after it had been hammered for years is considered stupid, so be it.
Have a Happy New Year folks.