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troutbreath

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Re: ALERT
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 08:09:12 AM »

They tried introducing them way back. Just like the took trout by horseback into lakes in the National parks. Good intentions mixed with bad science.

With the information out now about concerns with Atlantic salmon, you only defend what makes you money. So most people defending them see there cash cow getting butchered. Even if it is a mad cash cow.
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 11:44:43 AM »

Honestly though guys...I hate fish farming as mch as the next guy, but if you consider downward trends of say steelhead [notwithstanding the fact atlantics could compete with them and further push them out], It would be a pure miracle for a few fish to start going to the same river and sustaining a run, escaping capture by commercial sport and FN fishermen as well as diseases and predation, and surviving through the elements and gauntlet of diseases and parasites as juveniles and adults, and return in greater numbers than the previous years so as to inflate the run. The survival rate would need to INCREASE for them to return and reproduce and maintain a self sustainng run. But it is evident through looking at the downward trend of all salmonids that its quite unlikely for a species to create a run for themselves
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Re: ALERT
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 12:47:47 PM »

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DFO stocked thousands and thousands of Atlantic's in rivers like the Cowichan trying to establish a run.
None of these ever took, it is rare to catch an Atlantic in any river or stream and I would guess all are escapees.


I have seen this before and also the supposition about Atlantics not competing well with Pacific Salmon  BUT that trial was way back when the rivers were all full of fish.    Now many rivers have lots of empty space and there might be room for Atlantics to take hold.

I have heard several times of Atlantics taken in the Salmon and the Eve rivers although I have also heard suggestions that they are sea run browns that look similar.    Anybody have an update on those rivers?
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 01:47:07 PM »

Considering that there are d.f.o. notices on atlantics posted at various spots on the vedder,I totally think its possible. The fish farms in the ocean are not that far of a swim
Are you talking about the posters advising of clipped Cultus Lake sockeye? 
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 01:54:48 PM »

I have seen this before and also the supposition about Atlantics not competing well with Pacific Salmon  BUT that trial was way back when the rivers were all full of fish.    Now many rivers have lots of empty space and there might be room for Atlantics to take hold.
Laboratory studies have also shown Atlantics to be much less aggressive than Pacific species.  A few years ago UBC researchers penned together Atlantics and coho at DFO's Cultus Lake Laboratory.  If memory serves the coho kicked the crap out of the Atlantics.  Perhaps Mykisscrazy can add a few details.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 02:34:38 PM »

Are you talking about the posters advising of clipped Cultus Lake sockeye? 

I think he is referring to the atlantic posters, I have seen both of these on the river
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Re: ALERT
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 04:48:22 PM »

talked with dfo,they are taking it serious......i wasnt even gonna post this but a buddy of mine talked me into it.i will say it was bleeding and hopefully sucked in some roe.i knew i was gonna get grilled over this,lol,but with over 70 rod days in since july i put my time in,thanks for  the replys guys,tight lines!
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Re: ALERT
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2011, 07:41:29 PM »

Are you talking about the posters advising of clipped Cultus Lake sockeye? 
I noticed an old notice re: atlantics, was still up just behind the OTW store last time I was up. Used to be several others up by Alison and up at Ranger.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2011, 07:55:43 PM »

Thanks Sandy.  I must pay more attention!
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Re: ALERT
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2011, 10:34:48 PM »

I noticed an old notice re: atlantics, was still up just behind the OTW store last time I was up. Used to be several others up by Alison and up at Ranger.
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Re: ALERT
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2011, 07:58:09 AM »

I saw a couple of Atlantics caught in the Fraser up by Hope by sockeye fishermen about 7 or 8 years ago, they are not that rare in our rivers.
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2011, 01:41:19 PM »

I saw a couple of Atlantics caught in the Fraser up by Hope by sockeye fishermen about 7 or 8 years ago, they are not that rare in our rivers.
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