Do you have any idea of the politicaly devastating possiblities that could come out of rubbish like this if it ever caught on?
It really erks me when people equate us (humans) with animals. We are not animals. We reason and have the ability to apply morality and ethics to our lives. Animals can not do that. Animals cannot reflect on past feelings and experiences.....only instinct.
Although....there is one guy for sure who would agree with you....his name was Adolf Hitler and he had no problem using humans for scientific experiments in the same way we test things on rats and such...ie cosmetics, drugs...etc..although he took it a step further and did experiments like surgery while the person was awake with no freezing and such...etc...etc.
As for wasting fish....I agree completely.....it's unfortunate that some waste our resourses like that.
Wow. Godwins law I guess eh?
But none the less.
Animals are a major group of multicellular, eukaryotic organisms of the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa.
Yes. Humans ARE animals. Im not concerned if you like it or not, it is a fact, and you cannot logically disagree with it. Because Humans have the ability of self awareness and mind like no other, does not negate the fact that we are still an evolution from a certain kingdom in the natural world. Because one animal has an ability that is unique to that speices does not make them their own kingdom. Although semantics, my point remains. And the only devastating possibilities that lay within my statement are by those who are unable to think about it with a little common sense. Is a salmon the same as my girlfriend? Sure, they are both animals, they could both be females, they both have eyes, they are both a life. Does that mean Id put the death of a salmon on the same level as the death of my lady? Of course not! Because Im not a radical extremist. The only people who could, or would take what I said to mean that are those extremists. And nothing I say will change their idea if that is how they look at things. As I said though, I do not favour the death of either example when it is needless.
And hitler? Again, godwins law. What a joke. Also, hitler was ONE OF THOSE RADICAL EXTREMISTS! Although, Germany did make major medical breakthroughs. But I assume that because I said that, you will take it to mean that I am in favour of and agree with what they did.
But now, after reading the rest of this thread, I see that you automatically jump to the idea that me saying Humans = Animals is basically Animals = Equal. Well, as I said, and you conviently misquoted out of context in order to start this little rant fest
"but I have always been of the mindset that we are ALL animals, and thus equal. Maybe not completely, but I do think the waste of a life is never morally acceptable."
To break it down. We are Animals (Scientific fact), and we all belong on this planet (My own idea.) As such, a waste of a life is that, a waste of a life. If that life serves a purpose, be it people living and completing goals to better the world (Or our idea of it) or a fish spawning, or providing nourishment to a person, bear, enviroment, then thats ok to. For someone to kill a fish for some roe and thats all is my idea of a wasted life. And thats all.
To believe that humans are not animals is consistent with a world view that Robert G., and many others, myself included, believe.
You can believe we are not animals all day long. Scientific naming says youre wrong. Thats all. If you mean that we are above other life forms on the food chain, or in terms of life worth, then I cant say you are wrong, as THAT is an opinion.