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[cohokid]

I think this thread is pretty piontless. I think that if someone wants to smoke a reefer on the river feel free, if the wanna smoke cigars, smokes feel free, you cant stop them and they are allowed to do know they want. Dont see any signs on the river saying "no smoking" No drinking" on the river? as long as they do it in saftey and they arent driving home or ripped.

[DaN ThE MaN]

this thread needs to be moved to the Green Cafe!

[THE_ROE_SLINGER]

Good to see the young fellows are united on the war on drugs. I am actually surprised that so many young BC'ers are so strongly against the erb.. Who are we to be telling people they can't have a puff at the river or that they are wrong for doing it. Smoking dubies is no worse for your health than smoking a cigarette (both are bad) one just happens to be legal and the other doesn't if you don't believe that do some research.

That story about Someone loosing his mind from smoking one joint is the most far fetched story I have ever heard you should submit that one to the journal of psychologists I am sure they would be very interested to hear about the one and only case of a joint driving Someone crazy. Give me a break!

That said all due respect to you young fellows for just saying no, you will never miss anything by not killing your brain cells and lungs etc good job not giving in to peer pressure. Just try not to preech so much untill you have a little more experience with life.

Far fetched!!, Tell that to the parents of the child.!

[Youngin]

I think this thread is pretty piontless. I think that if someone wants to smoke a reefer on the river feel free, if the wanna smoke cigars, smokes feel free, you cant stop them and they are allowed to do know they want. Dont see any signs on the river saying "no smoking" No drinking" on the river? as long as they do it in saftey and they arent driving home or ripped.

It's not pointless.. it's a discussion.. No one is trying to convince anyone to stop what they are doing... we are sharing our beliefs and thoughts

[mojoman]

ok...I'll wade in here......first I'll light a reefer....then I'll exhale ever so slowly....then I'll look at all the posts here....what a grand bunch of folks...everyone with an opinion....some tryin' ta force Govt' sponsored info on the rest....some immovable on their stance for or against...some preachin' high morals....some even supporting a govt' law based in misinformation ....but ya know...if they ever legalize herb the big drug manufacturers will have a fit....so its not gonna happen( think big bux for the politicians and the horror we would hear from our "neighbors" south of us).....but me...I think yer all a bunch of great folks...spark or don't...its a personal choice for most....I quit for 3 years...my "old" doc had me on 180 T3's a month...forcing me to also take meds for my stomach due to codiene....I moved...and was advised I would not be recieving my monthly script of pain killers...was aslo advised that between the doc...myself...and the fence post I should reconcider smokin' herb for pain management....this from a licenced doctor....so make your bed folks...and sleep in it....but don' be layin' no boogy-woogy on this fisherman....cos I'll just puff a cloud in yer face and ask you to relax...oh...as another thought...ever been to a party and the last beer comes up???....yeah...its instant grief...a room of smokers and the last doob comes up...naww...I'm ok...u burn it....but of course there are those who will berate me for managin' my pain....knock your sox off...have been in this debate for many years...is all good banter...))



mojo...where'd I put my bong?

ps I am respectful of others on the river and elsewhere...

[bbronswyk2000]

I am not offended youngin as you will learn more as you grow older.

My kids could find out on the net but they would have to type in bbronswyk2000 which I doubt that they will since they have no clue what my handle is, plus adding the 2000 at the end virtually guarantees they wont find it. Their is always the chance but a very small chance.

I never smoke weed at home. Its always while I am away from the house with friends where my kids are not. Yes the smoking of cigs they do see and I am ashamed of it. ( dont smoke cigs in the house nor in my vehicle with my kids, I always smoke outside away from them ) I wish I could quit today but its not that simple.

[marmot]

Its absurd to think that marijuana makes people "see things".  It has never been documented that marijuana causes hallucinations.  It is FAR more likely that this person had some sort of mental problem or family troubles to begin with.  RoeKid I suggest you do some reading on the history of marijuana and the actual effects of it on the brain and human behavior before you blame it for peoples actions.  I know what Im talking about from both personal experience and a concentration in psychopharmacology and biopsych studies while I was getting my degree at university...not saying im an authority on it but I HAVE been educated in this area so Im not just spouting crap...  Im not about to tell people what is right or wrong, its not anybodys place, but you should at least consider that marijuana use in your friends case was more likely just a symptom than the cause of his troubles.  Im definitely not advocating the use of marijuana either, Im just saying you should at least know the facts and inform yourself before you make statements and come across as either ignorant, inexperienced, or uneducated on the topic. 

I actually havent smoked it since my daughter was born and probably wont anymore.  I dont want her doing it as a kid, thats for sure, and when shes an adult I hope that the values we've taught her allow her to make responsible, educated decisions and not impulsive ones based on ignorance, fear, or propaganda.  At that point if she chooses to light one up on the river and relax, I'll probably join her for a puff or two.  And if she doesn't, thats great too.

  and BB2000....your kids will see pics of you flexing all over the internet though...and that might eventually lead them here!!

[troutbreath]

Doctors prescribe drugs that can screw you up pretty good too, especially if you suffer from mental disorders. They don't have a clue if it helps you over the long term. The pharmaceutical companies make sure they do it, and don't leave out growth hormones and anti-biotics in your dinner as well. Your chowing down on more chemicals and breathing in more crap than I would care to list off.
But go ahead and single out pot smoking as illegal. It makes the other pollutants look legitimate,to the less than knowledgeable. I don't think smoking anything is good for your lungs,or a good way of taking drugs,try cookies.

[island boy]

WOW, i wasn't expecting all this. thanks everyone for your opinions.i'm not an idiot about where i smoke.go for a walk,try to keep it low key.if you smell one burning,come join in.thanks again and lets put this one to rest.

[bbronswyk2000]

Actually its a very good thread. Nobody has made this an extremely heated debate. It is good to hear both sides as it gives everyone a chance to learn something.

I know their are allot of younger people on this board and let me be the first to say that if I could go back in time I would not have chosen to smoke marijuana or cigs.

[weizen]

My kids could find out on the net but they would have to type in bbronswyk2000 which I doubt that they will since they have no clue what my handle is, plus adding the 2000 at the end virtually guarantees they wont find it. Their is always the chance but a very small chance.

bbronswyk2000,

The chance is probably bigger than you realize, speaking from someone in the industry and who knows, don't underestimate the power of google.  They know your name, where you live (Or did live) that would likely be enough to track down this forum in years to come.  That is unless Rod takes it down and deletes the archives ect........even then Google keeps pages cached for quite some time.

Anyway, enough about that, you know the risk and as we both agree we make our own decisions, so long as we're comftorable with them

Cheers

[blaydRnr]

I am not offended youngin as you will learn more as you grow older.

My kids could find out on the net but they would have to type in bbronswyk2000 which I doubt that they will since they have no clue what my handle is, plus adding the 2000 at the end virtually guarantees they wont find it. Their is always the chance but a very small chance.

I never smoke weed at home. Its always while I am away from the house with friends where my kids are not. Yes the smoking of cigs they do see and I am ashamed of it. ( dont smoke cigs in the house nor in my vehicle with my kids, I always smoke outside away from them ) I wish I could quit today but its not that simple.

just for the record... like everyone else on this board, i'm sure you're a great father to your kids and no one will think otherwise.

lets make sure everyone is clear...we're not talking about how bad a person is because he smokes marijuana, we're talking about the negativity of its effect.  sure cigarettes will kill you, but just like alcohol, pot will alter your state of mind when you ingest it. the question was (originally) how do you feel about someone doing it on the river?

i remember a few years back when the river was blown out, i was fishing the rapids of tamahi. this fellow was walking towards me when he lost his footing. i immediately lunged at him and grabbed him before he got swept away. anyway,  he was laughing it off then i caught the stench of pot on his breath and on his clothes. he didn't think anything of it was actually amused at the speed of my reaction.

you never know, i could have easily been pulled in if i would have grabbed him the wrong way. needless to say that got my heart going. the thing was, i risked my own life to save someone whom i felt was being irresponsible with his own. he was clearly under the influence.

if i choose to drink, i won't get behind a wheel.

if a smoker has kids, usually they won't smoke while they're in the car.

its just common sense.  the reasons are obvious.

[firstlight]

Pot is illegal.
Alcohol is legal.

Wow,our Government is messed up.

[Sterling C]

Just to add to what Roe kid has already said. When my roomate from firstyear arrived up at school he was a pretty straight shooter. Never did any drugs, rarley drank, was a very bright guy and was very motivated. Soon after he arrived he began smoking weed. At first it was just every once in a while but then it became a chronic addiction. After a while he went from being a bright, motivated guy to someone who was completly lazy, unreliable, and did not care about school. He never made it to the end of his second year. This guy was smart. Smarter than me, and probably just about everyone else on this board, if it can happen to anyone.

[Sterling C]

Pot is illegal.
Alcohol is legal.

Wow,our Government is messed up.

Alcohol has been legal for a long time. You can't just abolish something like that. Weed is illegal and frankley, we don't need anymore legalized substances. People will always be able to get their hands on it anyways but at least its legal standing will deter some people.