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[bkk]

Anybody know why the fishing boundary on Mamquam River is CN Railway Bridge just for Pinks, but not for the other species?

The train bridge was chosen by the local Sport Fish Advisory Board as a good boundary due to quality of fish concerns as the run progresses. Above the train bridge fish will be spawning in large numbers starting in late August and this regulation was implemented to discourage people from fishing them off of the redds. Still happens but at least people will not be legally allowed to kill the fish caught in this area. Was a tough call as the fish are clean in the early part of the return but change fairly quickly once they have started to stage prespawn. This regulation was implemented to preserve the quality of the fishery and to try and limit the gong show.

The Mamquam is running dirty as Ring Creek is putting out lots of silt. That watershed is very unstable in the upper reaches as well as having lots of glacial till. Now that the winter snow is gone for the most part and the glaciers have receded the melt water runs thru the silt and it ends up in the river. When it cools down up top it will clean up again unless we get a good rain.

Have lived in Squamish for close to 30 years and I have seen this happen a few times before. Is worse on years when the snow pack is low or gone.

Forgot to add that the Dyke is closed by the District of Squamish as they do not want vechile access on the dykes. Evidently they are concerned about the integrity of the dyke system in Squamish. The only Dyke that you can drive on is the one down to the wind sufers site at the end of the Spit.

 One nice thing about reduced vechile access is the reduced amount of garbage at the Mamquam bar this year. I guess it's just too far to pack all of your junk in if you can't drive it close.

[mastercaster]

The Mamquam is running dirty as Ring Creek is putting out lots of silt. That watershed is very unstable in the upper reaches as well as having lots of glacial till. Now that the winter snow is gone for the most part and the glaciers have receded the melt water runs thru the silt and it ends up in the river. When it cools down up top it will clean up again unless we get a good rain.

Have lived in Squamish for close to 30 years and I have seen this happen a few times before. Is worse on years when the snow pack is low or gone.

Any idea about the clarity of the Cheakimus below Cheakeye Cr.?

[HOOK]

OR above Cheekeye creek 



HOOK - I will be camping above the Cheekeye which is why I ask 

[bkk]

OR above Cheekeye creek 



HOOK - I will be camping above the Cheekeye which is why I ask 

The Cheakamus silt comes from primarily two sources. Culliton Creek and Cheekeye River. Both of these streams drain Mt. Garibaldi in the park ( Mt. Garibaldi is the big mountain you see when you enter Squamish and is a volcano) so they along with Ring Creek on the Mamquam drain thru volcanic soil as well as glacial till. Add water and you get the water conditions you see alot of durring the summer.

Drove over the Cheakamus today and it is fuggly right now. The Mamquam is better, it at least has a bit of green in it now.

[HOOK]

Thanks BKK

guess I will be driving the several km's every morning to the fishing spot. I was hoping for fishing closer to camp also but its not looking good, oh well

[VAGAbond]

This regulation was implemented to preserve the quality of the fishery and to try and limit the gong show

I don't understand the logic of forcing everybody onto one little stretch of river 'to limit the gong show.'  It seems to me that will have the exact opposite effect.  Giving fishers as much room as possible would do more to 'limit the gong show' IMHO.

[bkk]

Your right. Giving more access would be better but the Mamquam has fish spawning very close to the mouth and this reg was implemented more to try and reduce people fishing extremely poor quality fish off of the redds. If you want more access, all of the Squamish up to the 9 Mile powerline crossing as well as the Cheakmaus are open for retention and they have lighter amounts of people. The down side is the fish quality go's south fairly quickly the farther up the watershed you go.

In regard to the Mamquam and quality issues, just so you know, the first pinks have started spawning as we speak. A impeccable source was telling me that he observed the first spawning fish of the year in Mashiter Creek, a Mamquam tributary. This is early. Just reinforced the reason why the boundary was put in place.

[adriaticum]

Forgot to add that the Dyke is closed by the District of Squamish as they do not want vechile access on the dykes. Evidently they are concerned about the integrity of the dyke system in Squamish. The only Dyke that you can drive on is the one down to the wind sufers site at the end of the Spit.
One nice thing about reduced vechile access is the reduced amount of garbage at the Mamquam bar this year. I guess it's just too far to pack all of your junk in if you can't drive it close.

That does make sense.