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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Big Steel on November 05, 2005, 08:47:31 PM
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Since Coho season has thus far not been very productive, well for most anyways, I am already looking forward to steelhead season!!!!! :D :D I am starting to get pumped!!!! Only about a month to go!!!! Btw, I haven't fished the Chehalis for steelies yet. How is it?????? ;D ;D Who else is looking forward to the hunt for the elusive steely????
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i cant wait feel the power of the blade slicing through the water and waiting for that elusive hammering strike of the steelhead 8) 8) 8)
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If you ask me, the rest of the year is just practicing for steely fishing. It's by FAR my favourite fishing, it's like an addiction. I don't know how to describe why I love it so much.
That is so true!!!!!!! An awsome way to think about it!!!!!! ;D ;D
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yeah looking forward to steelies. but i dont think ill be hitting the river untill at least jan
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Well, I know that there are some there in Dec. I went out twice in dec last year and got 2, both wild, but that doesn't really matter to me. I just love catching steelhead!!! ;D ;D
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ive never caught a hatchery steelhead...all wild...but who cares, cause there's no better head than a steelhead ;D ;D
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Well Cody, my first 27 steelies were wild!!!! At the time that bugged me a little, then after getting the first hatchery, I realized that I was just as pumped to get a wild Steelie, even more pumped to get a wild. ;D ;D The wild Steelhead is the real bc jewell!!! Bred in the wild with no help from man!!!! Nothing beats the fight of a big, mean wild Steelhead in my opinion!!!! It is just a different feeling!!!!!! ;D ;D
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My favorite season. Virtually nobody around, its cold and the hunt is intense. When the float disappears the cold goes away and the adrenaline begins to run through your veins.
I am already prepared. The only problem is that we have a child thats due end of the year meaning my Steelhead season will consist of me getting out about once every 2 weeks. I will have to make the best of it thats for sure.
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Did you know that the hatcheries don't clip all the fish even though you catch one with an adipose fin it could still have been raised by the hatchery. ;)
Well Cody, my first 27 steelies were wild!!!! At the time that bugged me a little, then after getting the first hatchery, I realized that I was just as pumped to get a wild Steelie, even more pumped to get a wild. ;D ;D The wild Steelhead is the real bc jewell!!! Bred in the wild with no help from man!!!! Nothing beats the fight of a big, mean wild Steelhead in my opinion!!!! It is just a different feeling!!!!!! ;D ;D
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Yes I knew that, but they clip as many as they can!! Besides, what I was saying had so much more effect without putting that in!!!! So thank you very much for ruining the aura!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry man I didn't mean to ruin it for ya.No worries.
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How can you wake up early on a winters month go to the river stand there in the cold the whole day praying you will get a wish on or if your SUPER LUCKY a couple on. Coho is hard to catch sometime but steelhead is just too insane.
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I have caught 2 steelies at the vedder and one at the chehalis. They have all been hatchery. I heard that the steelies arrive latter at the chehalis than those at the vedder although i did get mine on new years last year.
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How can you wake up early on a winters month go to the river stand there in the cold the whole day praying you will get a wish on or if your SUPER LUCKY a couple on. Coho is hard to catch sometime but steelhead is just too insane.
if you haven't tried it....do so..the anticipation on the drive to the river....suitin' up in a snow storm.....frozen fingers that can't lite your smoke.....scanning the river for likely spots to drop yout float above....a quiet time to sort out all the lil' probs that infect our daily lives...no wife naggin' bout last weeks garbage still on the deck...no worries bout the dog $h!t you left in the yard...it'll b there when you get home ;D....and breathin' in all that nature....is the elexir of life....if you are into fishin' for the fish....steels may not b for you....its the trip...not the destination that calls me........just my thoughts...;))
mojo the BC steelie virgin...lots of Ont steelies tho
?....how far do I need to travel from Oliver to experience some decent steelie action??
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MARK
All steelhead form the Chilliwack Hatchery are adipose fin clipped prior to release. Fish are removed from Cap trough's, clipped and then put into the rearing channels for the remainder of the their time at the hatchery. On a very small percentage of fish the adipose fin may regenerate if it was a poor clip.
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How can you wake up early on a winters month go to the river stand there in the cold the whole day praying you will get a wish on or if your SUPER LUCKY a couple on. Coho is hard to catch sometime but steelhead is just too insane.
if you haven't tried it....do so..the anticipation on the drive to the river....suitin' up in a snow storm.....frozen fingers that can't lite your smoke.....scanning the river for likely spots to drop yout float above....a quiet time to sort out all the lil' probs that infect our daily lives...no wife naggin' bout last weeks garbage still on the deck...no worries bout the dog $h!t you left in the yard...it'll b there when you get home ;D....and breathin' in all that nature....is the elexir of life....if you are into fishin' for the fish....steels may not b for you....its the trip...not the destination that calls me........just my thoughts...;))
mojo the BC steelie virgin...lots of Ont steelies tho
?....how far do I need to travel from Oliver to experience some decent steelie action??
Mojo buddy if you are ever down here give me a call and I will gladly take you out. Either to the Vedder or some of my honey holes.
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MARK
All steelhead form the Chilliwack Hatchery are adipose fin clipped prior to release. Fish are removed from Cap trough's, clipped and then put into the rearing channels for the remainder of the their time at the hatchery. On a very small percentage of fish the adipose fin may regenerate if it was a poor clip.
Thanks Buck!!!!! ;D ;D The aura is back!!!!As Coho Cody likes to say "there is no better head than a WILD steelhead"!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Mojo buddy if you are ever down here give me a call and I will gladly take you out. Either to the Vedder or some of my honey holes.
Thankx for the offer Eddie99....when would be the best "window" of opportunity that way????....will b discussin' this with Val....serioulsy wanna git some steelie time in this yr....just may b time to check out my trailer..and dust off ol' handleless....;)))
mojo
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I would think that feb would be the start of the best time. Allthough, last year it really seemed to pick up in march and april!!!! ;) ;) I like fishing more in dec, Jan and feb myself though. A lot less people out on the river. When it starts to warm up, you see more and more people coming out!!!! 8) 8)
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i always tend to fish the vedder earlier in the season (Jan-Feb.), then most of my local rivers later on from march - april
My biggest and nicest steelhead:
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/member/gallery/album29/my_alouette_river_buck[img])
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How can you wake up early on a winters month go to the river stand there in the cold the whole day praying you will get a wish on or if your SUPER LUCKY a couple on. Coho is hard to catch sometime but steelhead is just too insane.
Some people just don't get it. ::)
No, they don't do they. It's like the people that wonder why we spend all this money on gear and bait when we can just buy the fish!!
Like explaining colour a blind man. ;)
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Well if some people don't get it, ei; floater for instance, then I feel bad for them, they are totally missing out!!!!! :P :P But look at the bright side, this will leave so much for space for us fishermen to work with!!!!! ;) ;)
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I agree steelhead fishing is by far the greatest type of fishing.
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I have heard from several reliable sources that a steelie was landed in the Vedder recently. Can't tell you if it was wild or a hatch.
I agree with everyone that Steelhead season is the best, especially in December and January when only the diehards are out. Nothing like fishing in the blowing snow with frozen guides and getting rewarded with a chrome bullet.
I find steelies are easier to entice than coho. If you find a steely in a pool or a run it'll pounce on your bait, compared to 200 ho's in a pool that move out the way when the bait goes drifting by.
I've never had trouble hooking one, but after 30 years of steelheading it's harder to get out of bed when the northeaster's a howling. ;D
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The ultimate thrill is catching them on the fly.
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How can you wake up early on a winters month go to the river stand there in the cold the whole day praying you will get a wish on or if your SUPER LUCKY a couple on. Coho is hard to catch sometime but steelhead is just too insane.
Some people just don't get it. ::)
No, they don't do they. It's like the people that wonder why we spend all this money on gear and bait when we can just buy the fish!!
Like explaining colour a blind man. ;)
So your sayings its physically different than going out right now and getting a coho, except right now you will probably get that coho and not freeze your butts off. I think some people take fishing to seriously i dont think its good for you to be sitting in cold water all day for a fish. You scan screw up your joints for life like that i dont think a fish is worth it. I can just go to bed and dream i caught a steelhead LOL! :P
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Lol!!
I remember this time I was bar fishing for steellies and it was so cold that as we talked little pieces of spittle would fly out of our mouths, freeze and then bounce on the ground. Actually that was kind of stupid. Didn't even get a bite, which is probably for the best. I wouldn't really trust any of the knots I tied that day. ::)
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The ultimate thrill is catching them on the fly.
I hope to find out that! well at least for salmon next year im dropping my gear and going fly all the way!
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It's not about the fish floater ::).
No, when was the last time you fished in a ditch? Correction: it's not all about catching the fish.
People say that all the time, but it is all about the fish. Trying to catch the fish. The anticipation of catching a fish. Seeing fish. Touching fish. Thinking, dreaming, and talking about fish. It's about the fish. That why we don't go hiking, or camping, we go on fishing trips! :D
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Well, I have a bit of an advantage over most!!!! ;D ;D I spent 21 years in Winnipeg, where it was winter about 81/2 months out of the year!! ;) ;) So the weather out here in Dec/Jan/feb doesn't scare me off that easy. Do I still get cold, yes, do I care that I get cold and have to run to the truck to warm up a bit sometimes, not at all. I can't wait to again be one of the diehards that go out in the worst weather possible. ;D ;D
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agreed BS....I migrated form Winterpeg 1 3/4 yrs ago....my last winter there was -56 no wind.......brrrr..but u get aclimatized......now I thrive in sunny Osoyoos..
and true enuff...the best fishin' is when most folks pack it in.....hardy kin b good....;)))
mojo
ps Val ( my S/O ) was born in Winnipeg........a "hardy Manitoban"
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Buck I did not say specifically steelhead as you may know they are a more protected fish species.
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All steelhead form the Chilliwack Hatchery are adipose fin clipped prior to release. Fish are removed from Cap trough's, clipped and then put into the rearing channels for the remainder of the their time at the hatchery. On a very small percentage of fish the adipose fin may regenerate if it was a poor clip.
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Well, I have a bit of an advantage over most!!!! ;D ;D I spent 21 years in Winnipeg, where it was winter about 81/2 months out of the year!! ;) ;) So the weather out here in Dec/Jan/feb doesn't scare me off that easy. Do I still get cold, yes, do I care that I get cold and have to run to the truck to warm up a bit sometimes, not at all. I can't wait to again be one of the diehards that go out in the worst weather possible. ;D ;D
I spent 4 years in Winterpeg. And 1 year in Churchill. Damn cold. -10 at night in early Sept. :-X
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Well, I have a bit of an advantage over most!!!! ;D ;D I spent 21 years in Winnipeg, where it was winter about 81/2 months out of the year!! ;) ;) So the weather out here in Dec/Jan/feb doesn't scare me off that easy. Do I still get cold, yes, do I care that I get cold and have to run to the truck to warm up a bit sometimes, not at all. I can't wait to again be one of the diehards that go out in the worst weather possible. ;D ;D
Same thing here. When I come down from Edmonton for a week of steelie fishing in Feb its like springtime for me ;D
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It's not about the fish floater ::).
No, when was the last time you fished in a ditch? Correction: it's not all about catching the fish.
People say that all the time, but it is all about the fish. Trying to catch the fish. The anticipation of catching a fish. Seeing fish. Touching fish. Thinking, dreaming, and talking about fish. It's about the fish. That why we don't go hiking, or camping, we go on fishing trips! :D
I dint know about you like being out in the great outdoors specially next to a river there is just something magical about it but to me catching or even getting a fish on is just as important as anything. Sure you can talk about the fish see the fish but when you go around the whole day and get not a bite that experience is ruined for me. Like you said its about touching the fish, i agree there is nothing like getting your hands on a fish you have a whole new appreciation for it but how can you get there without catching it first? Talk is good but nothing compares to actually fighting the fish.
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I can handle the Winterpeg winters, but I can't handle the summer Peg mosquitos. ;D
Floater, you're right when you say that anticipation of catching and actually touching a fish is what drives us and that is a very important part of it. But others are also right when they say getting out there and experiencing it is just as important. It's natural to go days or weeks, and for some, years without catching a steelhead. It's that dogged determination that distinguishes the steelheader from other fishermen. We just slog on. What I love the most is the comaraderie and lifelong friendships that have been forged over the years as it's really special to spend time on the river with guys that share the same passion as you.
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Mosquitos, ya they really suck. LOL. ;D
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I can handle the Winterpeg winters, but I can't handle the summer Peg mosquitos. ;D
Floater, you're right when you say that anticipation of catching and actually touching a fish is what drives us and that is a very important part of it. But others are also right when they say getting out there and experiencing it is just as important. It's natural to go days or weeks, and for some, years without catching a steelhead. It's that dogged determination that distinguishes the steelheader from other fishermen. We just slog on. What I love the most is the comaraderie and lifelong friendships that have been forged over the years as it's really special to spend time on the river with guys that share the same passion as you.
Yep tottaly agree, i just like to have it all. :P
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Mojo, my favorite time is Jan/Feb. If you know about 2 week prior to arriving that would be the best. Having a new kid means giving my wife more notice. I would say middle of Jan- end of Feb is optimal.
Cheers
Bryan
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Bryan....sounds just about perfect timing from my end....will advise you in lots of time.....dang.....never thought that ol' center-pin would see anymore use.....guess I'll b takin' it down and lubin' it up.....will bring my 6wt as well....;))
mojo
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I have to confees I too am an adict to steelheading for all the reasons previously mentioned and one more that has not been mentioned and that is the type of angler that is out on the water. Steelheaders are different in that they are fishing for the allure of catching a steelhead and not so much with the hopes of taking a piece of silver home (not that there is anything wrong with taking meat home). However, I would venture to say that most really only want to see the float go down, feel the battle, pose for the camera and watch a thing of beauty swim away to procreate and admire everything about the entire experience, not just its taste. It is definately a different feeling on the river when surrounded by anglers that share similar interests when it comes to the sport and one that I truly look forward to. Tight lines, to all this steelheading season and lets hope their ocean survival (and nets) is good, because we definately are missing a few coho. I will have a report for you concerning the Chehalis later on this evening as bug pumper and I were out Sunday, tight lines to all.
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However, I would venture to say that most really only want to see the float go down, feel the battle, pose for the camera and watch a thing of beauty swim away to procreate and admire everything about the entire experience, not just its taste.
Well with that I think that it may be time for some Steely Porn!!!!! ;D ;D Who wants to be the first to show off there best steelhead catch, or even perhaps there best steely story? ;D ;D ;D
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I caught my first steelhead on my first trip, I then thought, "well this isn't that hard at all". :-[ :-[ God was I wrong, I went over a year and about 35 trips without hooking another one. :P :P At that point I was pretty much possessed with catching another. The weather did not matter, I went out ANYTIME I could. Then finally, one afternoon in late feb, 2003 I hooked into this one. (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/Did-someone-say-Steelhead/Fish_on_8.jpg)
As you can tell by the look on my face I was rather pumped about it. It was such a great feeling to get that monkey off my back. ;D ;D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/BigFisher/steelhead.jpg) Yeah sounds like me, It took me about 20+ trips after school. Just as it was getting dark BAM fish on. So much adenaline going through me as soon as I knew I had something big on, and the only thing going through my head the whole time was im gonna lose it, im gonna lose it, im gonna lose it. But thankfully it was meant to be and I landed the 13-15 lb wild buck, although I landed the beast the fact that I couldnt get a picture with my prize kept me a bit disappointed. But everyone of those 50+ hours I spent just watching my float was worth it, and everytime I think back to that day I get a chill down my spine. I cant wait to put in my next 50+ hours for another, which is only just a few more months away. ;D.
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Well those are some nice pics guys. Here are a couple of my favorites as well. This one was my first of last season.
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/Did-someone-say-Steelhead/Fish_on_5.jpg)
And one of my favorites from mid season.
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/Did-someone-say-Steelhead/big_steel_001.jpg)
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Here's my favorite pic from the last few seasons of steelhead fishing. Not the biggest or brightest fish but it's special to me. It's a pic of me and my dad holding not only his first ever steelhead but also the first fish he has ever hooked and landed on his own.
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/05/P1010704a.jpg)
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Biff That is Awsome!!! It is great that you got to share that with your dad. ;D ;D
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I don't have any pics of steels.....digital cams weren't avaiable at the time.....come to think of it....personal computers were just becoming affordable when I last hooked steel......;))
mojo
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Wow Mojo!!!! How old are you?!?!?!? :o ;D ;D ;D
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Wow Mojo!!!! How old are you?!?!?!? :o ;D ;D ;D
I'll let you figure it out. He admitted to seeing the Make Beliefs winning their last Stanley Cup. That was in 1967 ;)
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So I am guessing early 50's then!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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So I am guessing early 50's then!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
At the very least ! ;)
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K one more Steely porn pic then I promise that I will stop ;D ;D ;D
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/Did-someone-say-Steelhead/Fish_on_4.jpg)
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I consider a passion for steelhead to be a gift. If you aint got it, thats too bad for you. If you do, good for you.
If you have it, you know that you dont need to have a fish on to be happy. It just makes every day more better. I dont have it, but I do have one for salt water springs. Im starting to think that I could get even more pumped about steelheading if I tried it.
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I've never caught a steelie before and still working on my first coho. I guest it's the same determination. ;)
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With enough of that determination BwiBwi I'm sure that you will get them both!!!! ;D ;D ;D Keep it up man,they will come, and when they do you will never forget it!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you for the encouragement Big_Steel. Luckily there comes the long weekend. ;D ;D Better work hard on it.
Hey did you grew up in Winterpeg?
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Hey Pin_Head
That's an awesome pic......almost like a painting or something to be framed and put up in your living room wall 8)
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Well sort of!!!! I was born in Scotland, but I don't remember any of it, my mom and dad were stationed over there when I was born. They came back to Nova Scotia when I was only six months old!!!! Then we moved out of Nova Scotia when I was about six because they closed tha atlantic salmon fishery down out there for a while and my dad said he had no reason to stay anymore!!!! Then I was in winterpeg for 21 years and did my far share of walleye, northern pike and Rainbow trout fishing. After that I moved to Calgary for three years, but the Bow river with it's Brown trout just wasn't enough to keep me there. I needed to fish for real fish once again, so I moved out here. I would never leave BC. I love it here!!!!! I have got to have salmon, there is nothing like it!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Awsome Pin head, that DOES represent the spirit of steelheading. That is an incredible pic!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I'm 48.....and not poor guy Pin Head....if ya think about it...mebbe poor you younger guys...all I learned from steelheadin' I had to learn on my own....no internet to glean info from...only experience via trial and error....and of course any info the locals would share...when you learn on your own the lessons stick......my dad 'n I started fishin' steels in the early 70's.....took 2 seasons before we were hookin' fish....at that time most steel fishers fished with 10 ft glass rods sensitive tip....but loads of backbone....spinning reel loaded with 12 lb test....roe-bag with a couple split shot bout 18 in from hook....we learned how to tell the difference betwixt a bite and the weights tickin' the bottom.....amazing how gentle a 15 lb steel take can be.....then came center pin reels and noodle rods sportin' 4lb test mainlines....and floats came right along with the noodle.....way less hangups way more hook ups....in '96 I moved from my fav rivers and kinda hung up my rod.....movin' here has got me thinkin' that that ol' pin ain't quite at retirement age yet.....as for my setup on the terminal end....used a barrel swive below the float connected to 4lb tippet....Mustad Laser Sharp hooks in #16..(the reason for such a small hook is simple....when you hook a species not targeted(read ol' scummy chinook) you simply point your rod at the fish....wrap line around your hand and let the fish pull the hook straight....retrieve ....rebend....go back at it....tyin' knots in the cold is a chore for me).....and a single-egg sized piece of chartruse sponge....adjust splitshot and float so you tick the bottom of the run every 3 casts or less.....the shape is suggestive and the color attracts...;))
mojo not poor or old....but on my way in both directions....lol...
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last year was my first attempt at steelheading. I hooked 4 and landed one chrome hatch about 12 lbs. I caught them all on the vedder, I tried the Seymour a bunch of times but didn't even get a nibble. Anyone else have any luck with steel on the Seymour?
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last year was my first attempt at steelheading. I hooked 4 and landed one chrome hatch about 12 lbs. I caught them all on the vedder, I tried the Seymour a bunch of times but didn't even get a nibble. Anyone else have any luck with steel on the Seymour?
I have caught them in the Seymour but I have much better luck with the other local river.
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So I wasn't that far off on the age!!!!! ;D ;D Also, that sounds like quite the setup you use. I was wondering though, you re bend your hooks when you straighten them long line releasing a fish??? I was just wondering how that works!?!?!?!? Doesn't that totally kill the integrity of the hook, you could only get away with that maybe once couldn't you??? For me, I like to have fresh gear on as much as I can. I always check my hook sharpness, leader whatever bait I'm using, If it is not up to code, I change it, cold hands or not!!!!! ;) ;) Cause you never know when you're going to get that big chrome steely and you will need all the help you can get!! ;D ;D
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you were right on the money with the age thing....I'm gonna say your 33.... ;D.....hope this explains the rest of your post....these hooks for whatever reason seem to not mind the rebend thing....as far as the integrity of the hook....when fishing fast water for big fish with lite line....you really don't force the fish you hook....but rather "guide" the fish....a 10 lb steelie won't be bullied by 4lb Maxima...if someone tells you different.....don't go fishin' with him/her... ;D ;D
hope this helps....;)
mojo
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Yeah I got it after reading your post again, I missed the 4lb leader thing :o :o Holy crap, 4 lb leader!!!!!! Well I guess that you would have to just let the fish play himself out with that now wouldn't you. I normally use 8lb leader for pretty much everything!!!!! ;) ;) ;) If the water is gin clear then I go to a 6lb flourocarbon, which seems to do the trick as well!!! ;D ;D
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Holy 3 pound! i have never gone lower than 6.
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one of the advantages of 12 ft and longer rods is you can apply pressure on a fish from a greater # of angles.....hence the "guiding" aspect of playin' large fish on lite line.....btw.....u should be rather light-of-foot to fish this way... ;D ;D ;D ;D
mojo
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Still looking for my first. I feel it this winter on the stamp! If i can get out enough. I have already been promised a trip for my birthday around xmas ;D
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one of the advantages of 12 ft and longer rods is you can apply pressure on a fish from a greater # of angles.....hence the "guiding" aspect of playin' large fish on lite line.....btw.....u should be rather light-of-foot to fish this way... ;D ;D ;D ;D
mojo
Don't you worry about that I am very light of foot!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D My poles are 11'6" so, I do like to play the fish, I don't like horsing in anything, it takes all fun out of it for me !!!!! ;D ;D
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Holy 3 pound! i have never gone lower than 6.
I have witnessed trout over 10lbs caught on 3lb leaders.
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Holy 3 pound! i have never gone lower than 6.
I have witnessed trout over 10lbs caught on 3lb leaders.
Yeah, that is the only way that we could get them to bite at Lake Kathrine in Riding Mountain National Park!!!!!!! ;D ;D But once they did, man was it a show!!!!! Acrobatics like you wouldn't believe!!!!! ;D ;D I got my biggest Rainbow ever on 4 lb test. 11lbs 4 oz. Got a master angler award for it to!!!!! It was a big deal when I was 10!!!!! LOL ;D ;D
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Holy 3 pound! i have never gone lower than 6.
I have witnessed trout over 10lbs caught on 3lb leaders.
If you want to attract Bif to the topic just mention test of the line. :P I dont doubt you Bifchan if never fished to huge lake trout so ill take your word for it.
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Nice pics guys :D
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Holy 3 pound! i have never gone lower than 6.
I have witnessed trout over 10lbs caught on 3lb leaders.
If you want to attract Bif to the topic just mention test of the line. :P I dont doubt you Bifchan if never fished to huge lake trout so ill take your word for it.
You know how to get my attention. It's like a giant beacon into the sky but instead of a bat inscribed in a circle it will be a line rating.
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So lets hear what everybodys favorite bait or lure is for those big over sized rainbows.
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Ill tell you after the seasson what my favorite fly to wet was. ;D
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ghost shrimp , shrimp/salmon feast scent soaked egg sacks and my absolute #1 would be a 50/50 , genuine gold/silver #4 custom rigged french blade... absolutely deadly under a float.
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Keep telling everybody how great it is and the next thing you know! Bouncing Betties and long leaders!!! Talk about the cold, the rain, snow and the thousand casts to get one fish! Discourage people!!!! I love the fact that you can almost find lots of open water but it has gotten more crowded over the last couple of years! Remember it is cold, windy and too hard to catch those devils! ;)
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Superb Rubber Power (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2005/0405_07.html) will get you....
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Superb Rubber Power (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2005/0405_07.html) will get you....
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Rodney.....them look awful close to Bass worms.....but...if ya need that kinda stuff...go for it... ;D ;D ;D
mojo don' need no steenkin' plastic
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Thats a beauty there Rod. :o
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So lets hear what everybodys favorite bait or lure is for those big over sized rainbows.
Jensen eggs/wool with a few 'secret' alterations.
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pro-cured spawns with a hint of red wool does the trick for me.
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Ahhhhh.... My FAVORITE winter pursuit ;D
I've found that steelhead are amongst the most aggressive of our anadromous fish. And although at one time I did use roe and bugs, I have learned that the mess and fussiness is not really neccessary for good success.
Here's a couple of pix of my Go-To set-up:
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/Jensen_SetUp.jpg) (http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/Float_SetUp.sized.jpg)
And some of the success it has brought:
Winter:
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/Results.jpg)
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/Rogue_s_First.jpg)
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/IronNoggin_1.jpg)
& Summer:
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/SumRun.jpg)
aYup! Gotta LOVE those bloody cold mornings, waist deep in an icey flow, when that RUSH of the hit warms you right through to the bones ;D
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/WhiteWaterFish_On.jpg)
Good topic, GREAT pix folks! Got my blood boiling for sure!! Soon now.... ;)
Cheers,
Nog
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Damn IronNoggin!!!!!! I thought that I caught some big steelies!!!!! :o :o Nice pics man!!!!!! For my favorite bait, I would have to say, coho roe in a small spawn sack. Also colorados, and they 50/50 french blades that Allwaysfishin was taking about!!!!! Btw, Thank you again for those blades Alwaysfishin, I still have about 8 of them left!!!!! I just need some bead chains now!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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we'll havta play one day 'Nog.....see if my Onterrible skills match these waters....;)))
mojo who knows "head"...;))
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Dosent anyone fly fish for steelhead? fly fishing seems to be the logical way to go for fly fishing. Since your not getting much action you can atl least have fun casting or getting better at casting. ;D
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You can try floater, some guys get steelies flyfishing, but I think that you should be an accomplished flyfisherman if you hope to have any amount of success at it. I am not accomplished at it, so I gear fish!!!!! But, all the more power to you when you hook your beast!!!!! ;D ;D So good luck, I hope that you do get your prize!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Thats if i dont die from a heart attack when i get one on. :P Seriously i wont lie i havent even seen steelhead in the flesh so yah.
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OK her is a tip then, I am now rooting for you!!!!!! Fish up and down the wilson rd area in dec and jan. There is lots of room, also when you walk down wilson, I have said enough!!!! Pm me, I will tell you about the spot when you do!!!!!!
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I got lucky, ;D ;D ;D Dec 26-1st, dec 29- 2nd ;D ;D ;D Earliest, I ever got one let alone 2!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Love those spawn sacks!!!!!
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I wasn't talking about the canal!!!!! ;D I hate the canal!!!!! :P I was talking upper -mid river!! ;D ;D
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Big steel chances are im gona see you this seasson i plan to go from bottom of the river just above KW bridge up to ionno where havent dont much upper river fishing. Anyways when i see you we can talk secret spots. :P
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hehehe I know all his secret spots...... and hey don't go pimpin out that wilson stretch...... that's my little playground
MY GOD this thread is teasing me...... I am going to have SO MUCH TIME OFF this steelhead season...... It will truly drive you nuts Big Steel hehehehe see ya on the flow brother!!!
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one more thing
how many of you guys have pulled out your steely catchin goodies since this thread started???
I just finished organizing my whole vest...... I think i'll start a new thread for that one
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Pin Head, I stopped asking that question a long time ago. ;D ::)
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lol, I get it.
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Steelhead is not always so difficult to catch. On my first trip to bc I managed to catch several fish.One day I had 4 steelheads. All the fish were between 72 cm and 100 cm! I had never fished for steelhead before. But I must admit that was in september and octobre.
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Well there Thomas, I have a week off before christmas, you in for some early steelheading!?!?!?!?! It is only a bit more than a month away!!! ;D ;D ;D
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K maybe one more!!!!! ;D ;D ;D I hate the canal, but I decided to stop there one afternoon in early march!!!!! Only one other guy there at about 3 pm!!!!! 10 min in I hooked this beauty ;D ;D
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/Did-someone-say-Steelhead/Beauty_Steely.jpg)
I don't mind the canal I guess ;D ;D If the time is right and there is no crowd!!! ;D ;D Who knew!!!!!! I saw one jump as I was driving over the bridge, and I had to stop!!!!! ;D ;D
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Depends on the time of day!!!!! ;) I drive by there on the way out, if I know that there is fish around, and there is only a couple of guys there, then I might stop down for a few casts!!!! I normally fish the mid upper river for steelies!!! :) :)
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Whats your personal best for steelies in one day at the vedder? dosent have to be landed fish.
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5, back in the Spring of 2004.
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3 to hand, two wild one hatch. Hatch was first fish of the day, sure glad I released it.
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5 hooked 3 landed, 2 of them were near 20 lbs!!!!! ;D ;D
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3 to hand, two wild one hatch. Hatch was first fish of the day, sure glad I released it.
:anded al three I hooked that day but I also had another 2 fish follow my hook to within about 2 feet of shore :o
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Only ever fished the Vedder once. Got talked into it last year by a buddy who knows the system rather well. ;) Had to go over to the mainland to pick up a new-to-me 4x4, so took a day to have a look at this flow so many folks chat and post about on several of the Forums.
Given my background with fishing WCVI flows, often remote, I carried more than a few misgivings about fishing anywhere on the mainland. I had of course heard the horror stories regarding conjested rivers, and the problems that go hand in hand with that. But as it was a week day, I figured it wouldn't be all that bad...
What I witnessed that day well confirmed my suspicions. We hunted four different locations that day, and dispite wandering in before first light, there were soon dozens of rods at the first stop. Combat style fishing has never really appealed to me, and this was what we enterred into. Shoulder to shoulder anglers, many obviously without any clue at to ettiquite (scrambling to beat each other to the next likely looking spot, refusing to move when others came along, casting over each other, etc) and just as many that didn't appear to know what they were doing (wearing cheap Canada tire rubber hip waders & overly bright jackets, carrying large tackle boxes full of who knows what, employing gear more suited to dredging up sturgeon, or on the other end of the scale, ultra-light trout rigs) ::)
The next spot was the same, and the next. Finally late in the afternoon, we wandered into an area that held but a single angler, dressed in beat up neo's and a faded green helly hanson jacket, plying the flow with a pin. Both the lack of conjestion, and that fellow were a welcome relief from the previous experiences of the day. Although the fellow was somewhat distant, I felt an almost kindred attachment to him and the water he was working. A brief chat, then gave him a wide berth, leaving a large section of water for him to fish before even considering doing the same.
Overall, I wasn't dissapointed with the day. The system is quite pretty, and I recognized a good amount of what I considered fishy water. It was nice to put a picture to the name to the many pools and runs I had heard of, even though the conjestion was actually somewhat more than I had anticipated. We saw upwards of 80 people working the flow that day, dispite it being mid-week.
As for fishing, under my buddy's guidance, I managed to hook nine and land seven chromers amongst the crowds that day. Not a bad day as far as success goes. But I was more than happy to scurry home, and spent the next several days on a few of the more removed Island systems, very much enjoying the tranquility that they, their inhabitants, and the complete lack of other anglers brings home to me.
Will I be back? Doubtfull. I've now seen what I wanted to. And although it is indeed a beautiful river, it has far to much traffic for me to really enjoy myself there. Perhaps, someday, if I find myself over on the mainland at the right time of year in an unrelated pursuit, I might take a few moments to have another look... Perhaps.
Here's a pix of one of those gems the Lady Vedder graciously allowed me to play with that day:
(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/Tracks/Vedder_fish2.jpg)
For now, I'll stick to the Island, where it seems I fit somewhat better. Although I must admit, even here, it's getting more and more conjested each and every year. The Stamp still is my back yard, but I don't bother with the weekends any more, for that very reason. Even week days, you're much more liable to run into crowds than it ever used to be.
Cheers,
Nog - Yearning for the "good old days" when there were but a few die-hards that plied the local flows, when by and large, everyone knew each other, and were courteous to the extreme...
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Thats a perfect fish
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So is there any chance of me hooking one of these steel beauties trolling around out in the chuck, like around T14 (off Canoe Pass) or around T10? Do they come in from the salt all winter? Do they generally move in, in schools in the salt?
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Yes, they move in from the saltchuck. Your chances of hooking up with one of these beauties is much better in the river than trolling around in the ocean.
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I'm kind of looking for another excuse not to fog my outboard and just keep going out every 3 or 4 weeks for a troll in the salt in December and Jan. What do they bite out there?
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With regards to the ever increasing crowd, I always wonder why so many salmon fishermen try the sports of steelheading. Most of my salmon fishing partners stop for steelhead. Many don't like the cold & the rain. Most think it not worth their time to work for a elusive prey. Some want to try, and in a season they drop out. I am sure this is happening to many newer steelheaders. The crowd gets thinner by March & April, as many newbies just quit after repeated trips of not even hooking into a steelie, and had to endure cold & rain for months. Why then still so many guys want to try the crazy sport of steelheading every year? Iron talked about all these guys at the Vedder who look like they didn'nt know what they were doing? Yet many of these guys were there to jam up the popular rivers, even on week day. You cannot say they are meat fishermen, cause there is not really that much chance for some meat on any given steelheading day. Are we missing something there? Why do these guys even bother? Some ones over-sell steelheading to these people? ???
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Well funfish, all I can say to that is, steelheading isn't like other salmon fishing!!! You either have the will and desire to go out in those conditions, or you don't. It is not even about getting a steely, it is about the anticipation of seeing the float go down, feeling the powerful headshakes. That is a rush that you can't describe. All the things that I 'm saying have already been posted in this thread, because these are the views of many steelheaders. So, you either get it or you don't. Personally, it think that there are a lot of guys out there that don't know what they are doing, but that is only because they are new. Some of them will indeed figure it out and over time become a true steelheader as well. A lot will not and give up!!!! As for there being to many guys out on the river!!!! Yeah there are a lot of guys, but did anyone ever notice that they are at the same holes that the crowd hits in salmon season. I myself don't fish the main salmon honey holes that often in steely season. I don't mind the people that much. It is a hell of a lot better than salmon season anyways. 99% of the guys out there in steely season as far as I have seen, fish with a bit of etiquette. So maybe steelheading is being over sold to the masses on websites such as this, but it is a free country, everyone deserves a chance to try anyways. If they can handle it then good for them, if they can't, well, then I guess that they will just have to wait for the Fraser then!!!!! ;)
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Hey Nog,
I'm so surprised that your bud would take you, of all people, to all the meatholes. I would never do that to my buds. The Vedder is more than 30+ kms long and one should be able to fish in relative solitude.
We all yearn for the good old days but that's not reality. With more than 2 million people in the Lower Mainland you will have to get used to it or else quit. I wish I could still buy a house on Vancouver west side for $150,000 but that's never gonna happen. Life's hard, man, so get a helmet.
Consider yourself lucky to have your streams on the Island, but Vedder is my home river and I don't really have too much to complain about. Cheers.
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Understand, BigSteel. Thanks for your comment. I know why hard-hosed steelheaders persist years after years. I hope I qualify as one of them, having fished for the 'grey ghost' for 16 years now and hooking my fair share of steelies. But we all know the realities of steelheading. Hard work, by walking all day & endless number of casts for that elusive prey without a dip of the float, and enduring cold & rain of the winter months, with very few fish to show (for most newbies at least). Just not the kind of thing that will appeal to those fishermen that Nog has described seeing at the Vedder. Yet we see them swarm the popular holes at early season. ???
Perhaps it is over-sold by some one. Not us at this site, I hope. How often you hear about steelhead bonanza like salmon reports. I am frank with my newbie salmon fishing partners about the reality, and they back off like drones. Not too many have that hard-nosed steelheading blood in them. Why then, every year still so many newbies trying the sport with many showing very poor fishing ettiques. Perhaps they are just too naive about steelheading and not prepared for its reality. But you are right, it is a free country. Got to be thankful for this. :)
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Well, would I like to see less people on the river in steelhead season, yes!!!! I would like to see less people on the river in all the seasons!!!!! I think that this might be a hard year though. With the poor returns in coho, for whatever reason, I fear that the steelhead population might be hit with the same fate!!!! I hope not, but that is what it looks like could happen. If this does it could perhaps turn many people off of steelheading for good!!!! While this would create more space and less pressure on the river, this could also start the steelhead into a downward spin!!!!! Mind you this is all speculation for now, I hope that speculation is all it stays!!!! :P :P Worst case scenario though, I'll still be out there every chance I can!!!!! ;D ;D
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It will be nice if steelies are going to be late this year like sox & ho. Less fishermen by March/April and lots of fish around.....steelhead fantasy! ;D
Good luck to all in upcoming steelhead season.
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Yeah that would be pretty good, but I wonder about that!!!! Does anyone else have some fews on this?!?!? Buck Perhaps!!!! ;D ;D
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Big Steel
I just hope that steelhead survivals don't follow those of this years coho returns. Like the rest of the avid steelheaders I'm hoping it will be a good season. However, returns of other species this year have been poor which is not a good sign. Summer run returns to rivers in Washington State were poor as were returns to the Skeena system. One positive was the good reports from the Thompson.
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As long as the steelies come I don't care, if they're REALLY late then I'll have to work on my flychucking game and hit'em in may too 8)
Oh yah may is fly only month that would be heaven for a noobie fly fisherman with LOTS! of free water. That being said fly fishing is an expensive Hobie a multi tip line is more than a rod in looking at. :-X
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As long as the steelies come I don't care, if they're REALLY late then I'll have to work on my flychucking game and hit'em in may too 8)
Oh yah may is fly only month that would be heaven for a noobie fly fisherman with LOTS! of free water. That being said fly fishing is an expensive Hobie a multi tip line is more than a rod in looking at. :-X
Flyfishing for Steel is a challenge. I started flyfishing for them 2 years ago and finally landed one last year on the fly. Its easier if you have already had previous steelhead experience as you know how to read water but its still allot of learning as its completely different with techniques.
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You know me i jump right in without thinking about it too much. ::) SO why do it different for steelhead. ;D
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steelheading for me is different than say coho fishing. I won't fish the vedder system for salmon anymore.... the magic is gone. these days i like to stick to the smaller more challenging flows for my ho's. Steelheading is more like hunting and maybe that's what draws me in. I'll tell you this though, sunrises on a misty winter steelhead river, with everything frozen all around is like a magical place. Therre is no "expectation" of a fish as there is with salmon fishing, although we ply likely steelhead water with "anticipation" of a good float down. The reward of hooking and playing a prime steelhead is to many folks, an elusive quest, taking seasons to hone the skills of reading the river and properly presenting your offering in a given current type or run structure. There are those with horseshoes up there butts too but we won't mention them any further ::) ;D .
I arrive on the river with a different motivation when steelhead are present and that "anticipation" of a steelhead taking my offering will get me up, rain, snow, 1 1/2 hr drive, whatever, to be sending my float through likely steelhead water at the crack of dawn is what river fishing is all about. I don't care if it's hatchery or wild, it's not about killing fish.
this is driving me nuts!!! is it boxing day yet??
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. The reward of hooking and playing a prime steelhead is to many folks, an elusive quest, taking seasons to hone the skills of reading the river and properly presenting your offering in a given current type or run structure. There are those with horseshoes up there butts too but we won't mention them any further ::) ;D .
You had best not be talkin about me Thomas!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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like i said......
we won't talk about the people with horseshoes up their butts... hehehehehe ;D 8)
on the other hand, you know I'd share a day on the flow with ya anytime, ya just gotta land one of them hogs when i'm around ;)
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Fret not Thomas, I will!!!!! You just have to come out with me a bit more and go to my runs !!!!! ;D ;D
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we all get those days when we wake up with a golden horseshoe firmly planted somewherre near the colon hehehe.... gross.
I had a hunting season this year that had me blessed with the golden horseshoe big time, 3 deer a moose and a big my friend black bear all within weeks of each other. hopefully my luck carries me into steelhead season too
and Dave, we gotta get poseidon out for some steel this year...... that ontario transplant has yet to catch the bug, but me having loads of "fish when i want time" from now on, it should not be a problem for us to have some glory days this season.
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Well. I have definitely not had the horseshoe for coho season!!!!! Only 10/11 this year so far, but I haven't given up yet!!!!! Maybe the shoe will return on Dec.26 like it did last year!!!!! Do you remember Dec. 29 last year Thomas!!!! Had on that nasty one that came straight to shore, caught mine line on a rock and took off!!!!! Yeah, that one still burns me a bit!!!! Considering that it was caught on film!!! I looked like a chubba!!!!!! ::) ::) :P ;D You didn't even get off your rock to come and help!!!! What was up with that!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Bye the way, who the heck is Poseidon anyways?? Could that be Hawk?? ;) ;)
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hehehe
i was rooted in place.... awestruck at how that runty steelhead kicked your butt.... hehehehe just kiddin... but you know that ;D
and yup, hawk (chris) is poseidon, gotta get him to re register though... he got moderated right off the board, Rod thought i created an alter ego hehehe 8)
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;) :)
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I don't know what happen to my last post but i will try again.Big steel you do have a horseshoe were the sun don't shine,i remember a few years back when you rarely hooked a fish never mind landing it,when you did hook a fish you were so afraid of loosing it you would horse it in and lose it anyway,however things have changed with all the time you have put in and you have done quite well.I am also looking forward to the upcoming steelhead season ,in particular the boxing day derby,you better be ready because that 13lber from last year isn't going to be good enough,I'm coming at you hard this year ,so hard you should probably just sleep in just to save you from getting frustrated and upset,lol.hopefully we will catch our share this year and have a few laughs.P.S. I'm thinking about posting your don't horse it video From that steelhead so everyone can enjoy it ,what do ya think.sharp hooks and tight lines.
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hehehe
that would be so CRUEL..... you have to post it ;D
sorrry dave ;D
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Both you guys suck!!!! ;D ;D You know that right!!!! Just thought that I would tell you in case you haven't realized it yet!!!! ;) ;)
Well let's see here Searun, since we started fishing the Derby together, I believe that I have caught the only fish on boxing day!!!!!! ;D ;D
As for you Always, I don't need any help looking like a chubba!!!! I can do that quite fine on my own!!!! Like when I hooked myself in the jaw earlier this year!!!!! Anyhow I think that I have said enough!!!! ;D
Ps Bring it on suckers!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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yeah post it.
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You too Kid!!!! What the heck man!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I can do that quite fine on my own!!!! Like when I hooked myself in the jaw earlier this year!!!!! Anyhow I think that I have said enough!!!! ;D
You hooked yourself in the jaw ? Let's hear the story
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haha, well i used to be like you with coho as well, and my dad kept telling my corddd take your time... i never listened and i lost about 10 coho and got madd, and he kapt landing them. then i stop hoarseing them in and landed a few, then landed more.
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I can do that quite fine on my own!!!! Like when I hooked myself in the jaw earlier this year!!!!! Anyhow I think that I have said enough!!!! ;D
You hooked yourself in the jaw ? Let's hear the story
Ok here it is are you ready!!!!! I AM NOT TELLING THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!! I looked like enough of a hack the first time I told it!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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haha i hooked my bottom lip on sunday. went right through. LOL it hurts :P
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hahaha kinda like the big srping in the cap eh ;)
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Ok here it is are you ready!!!!! I AM NOT TELLING THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!! I looked like enough of a hack the first time I told it!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
don't feel bad man, i hooked myself behind the ear last week. i hooked and lost a coho and as the hook flung out of the fish's mouth it zinged past me and swung back to snag my left ear. :-[
felt and looked like a beek. :P but hey, that's life. ;D
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You guys do know the hook goes in the fishes mouth.........right? 8)
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haha, well i used to be like you with coho as well, and my dad kept telling my corddd take your time... i never listened and i lost about 10 coho and got madd, and he kapt landing them. then i stop hoarseing them in and landed a few, then landed more.
Don't let Searun fool you. He always heckles me when I am fighting a fish!!!!! I guess that he's a bit jealous that I get a lot more fish than him!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Like one time this summer, he hooked a nice red, played it good, and I did a nice job of grabbing it for him!!!! In fact I have never chubbad one of his fish while tailing it!!!!! Then right after that I hook into a nice one as well, fought it hard, got it to shore, then Searun goes a tails it, turns around to show me I guess and throws it back in the water!!!! ;D ;D ;D He said that it slipped ;D ;D ;D The kicker is, while I was playin the fish he said," dammit Dave, everytime I get a fish, you have to come right back and within 10 min get one as well!!!!!". Keep in mind that we were on the water for about 7 hrs that day with not a single hit, then he got one and right away I hit one as well!!!!! So you could understand how the circumstances seem kind of fishy to me!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Sorry Searun the truth must be told!!!!! ;D ;D
Ps, you are so going to post that damn video now aren't you!!!! :P :P ;D
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yeah post the video ;D
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Ok here it is are you ready!!!!! I AM NOT TELLING THAT STORY AGAIN!!!!!! I looked like enough of a hack the first time I told it!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
don't feel bad man, i hooked myself behind the ear last week. i hooked and lost a coho and as the hook flung out of the fish's mouth it zinged past me and swung back to snag my left ear. :-[
felt and looked like a beek. :P but hey, that's life. ;D
I don't feel bad blade, thing's like that happen, I just figured that after giving Searun a good jab with that last post that he might like to tell the story his way. He still gets a good laugh out of it!!!! I will give him some credit though, he did do a great job of getting the hook out!!!!! ;D ;D
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c'mon floater, everyone's pulled a beek move...at least once in there life ;) ...now now do tell....we're all fishing brothas here. please... do tell. ;)
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Yes Floater, you want us to believe that that sort of thing has never happened to you !!!!! LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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wow, what a monster thread this is turning out to be....good post big s.
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Thanks Blade!!!!! Steelhead is now in the top three all time most posted to threads!!!! That is were a topic on steelhead shoud be!!!!! Don't think that we will catch "who are you " though!!!!! ;) But there definately should be a steelhead thread that is more popular than sockeye or native fisheries!!! At least I think so anyways!!!!! ;D ;D But then again, I'm a bit biased!!!! I'm a steelheader!!!! ;D ;D
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I bet flossing is number 1
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Yes Floater, you want us to believe that that sort of thing has never happened to you !!!!! LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry to interupt your laughing but. . . .no worst i ever got was when a spring came up right near shore and i caught the flying hook that was going for my face. :P Ionno its weird the only things that have happend to me is fish comming of near shore and hooks and bouncing betties flying at my face.
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The cheam band Injunction thing is number2!!! Then there is Rod's Who Are You Personal profile thing, whatever that was. That is in the number 1 spot!!! ;D ;D ;D But we will need about 40 more posts to get this one in to the first spot!!!!! I don't think that it will make it!!!! :P ;D I don't know if there is anything left to talk about!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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one of my buddies always stands right beside me and sets the hook in such a way that if he doesn't hook a fish i'd better duck fast or i'm gettin a face full of tackle. a few days on the water with him can greatly improve reaction times :-X
Wow with a buddie like that who needs enemies!!!! LOL ;D ;D ;D
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I say we talk about how to "READ THE WATER" when fishing for steel.
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hm somewere where i can get a nice slow drift with woll or a blade :)
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Hi what is the best thing to use for Steelhead?
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Is hatchery steelhead only available in Vedder, Chehalis?
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Hi what is the best thing to use for Steelhead?
roe, blades,goey bobsand white wool,jensen eggs with white wool, rubber worms
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Anyone ever read that light green wool works the best for steelhead?
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ive ony fished the crappy bugs from gills that never stay on your hook haha, other than that roe bags ;D and jensen eggs ;D
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Anyone ever read that light green wool works the best for steelhead?
No, I have never read that Floater. Hell I don't even like using bugs!!!!! Have all of my luck on roe bags, coloradoes, jensen eggs, and a couple on worms!!!!! Never had a need to try the other!!!! But I have tried cook shrimp, I haven't had it work for myself, but I have seen it work!!!!! ;D ;D ;)
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haha sam guided bug pumping charter LOL
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Is hatchery steelhead only available in Vedder, Chehalis?
No but they are the only places around that can handle the pressure
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Anyone ever read that light green wool works the best for steelhead?
No, I have never read that Floater. Hell I don't even like using bugs!!!!! Have all of my luck on roe bags, coloradoes, jensen eggs, and a couple on worms!!!!! Never had a need to try the other!!!! But I have tried cook shrimp, I haven't had it work for myself, but I have seen it work!!!!! ;D ;D ;)
my goto bait for steels is floro green sponge in single egg size on a small hook...;))
mojo
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Yes Mojo but wasn't that in Ontario!!!!! ;) ;)
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gotta say something, i say we make this the highest posting topic ;D
what your ppls favorite place to steelhead the vedder, lower, mid, upper
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Well kid that depends on the time of the year!!!! I like to start off the year in the Mid to upper river, that is all I will say for now though!!!! I'm not sure how this year will turn out yet. So the strategy might change yet!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Well kid that depends on the time of the year!!!! I like to start off the year in the Mid to upper river, that is all I will say for now though!!!! I'm not sure how this year will turn out yet. So the strategy might change yet!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Would lower be better for start of the year? some very good areas in lower river, with no parking around less crowds. ;D
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Could be, I just prefer the mid-upper!!!! ;) ;) ;) That early run of steelies is pretty small, I would rather fish water where i know they might hold once they use up some of that energy!!!! ;D ;D ;)
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hehe i prefer the mid/upper all the time, but i don't care if the fish are hatchery or wild though. the percentage of wild vs hatchery hookups is higher on the wild side in the upper but that's okay. the lower puts me to sleep..... yawn but this year i'll be hittin the lower with the fly on the warmer days so i guess i'll have to keep some wake up juice handy (coffee and a lil sumthin sumthin 8) )
as this will be my first season pin 'n it, it should be an extra fun steelhead season.
perhaps a mention of steelheading river edicit should also be mentioned for those that are new to the pursuit. A different behavior is "expected" of those who brave the winter months in the quest for steel.
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Just got back from work and am now taking the time to respond to b.s.First of all b.s. I have only fished in one derby with you and being that that one was your first and you managed to hook one, good on you ,i wont even get into how many derbies and fish i have caught on derby day in the 22 years that i have fished the river because it will only get you all riled up,As for the springs this summer,thank you for tailing my fish a job well done, also for those that want the real truth i had his spring by the tail at the beach and it slipped out of my hands as it tried once more to gain its freedom,just an accident thats all, it happens.As for posting the video i have not decided yet wether i am going to or not ,i don't want to get you all mad and loose a guy thats good at tailing my fish,lol.buy the way great topic you started hear.P.S. you shouldn't be so nasty to the guy that gave his precious time to help you learn the art of fishing,lol
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Yes Mojo but wasn't that in Ontario!!!!! ;) ;)
ok BS....I'll bite(pun intended ;D) why would steelhead from Ont be any different than BC steel?.?.?.?
mojo always willing to learn
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cuz they are transplanted from b.c. probably ;D
good question though.... do steelhead occur naturally back east or were they introduced like pacific salmon??
I could see the fight and strength of the fish being different as our fish have to migrate up strong flowing coastal rivers. Steelheading the niagra system is HIGH on my to so list so when i experience that I'll be back with some observations..... that's next years trip though so you'll all be waitin awhile ;D
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the steels were introduced to Ont...not sure when tho...I was fishin' them in the late 60's....my uncle years before that........in the mid 80's they introduced a strain from Washington if I recall properly...called Skamania....strongest fightin'est nastiest....'n all kinds of "est"....lol... fish I ever hooked....a small 6 lber would take 15-20 mins to land....if you landed it at all....these fish have a snow white mouth roof....and are long and slender....with the eyes more on top of the head as opposed to the sides....and the eyes have a distinctive bulge as well...and usually hit like freight trains....;))
mojo
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Anyone wach fish tv on channel 22 today? The guys were SLAMING! steelhead in a small creek on everything from live worms to flys. Is there places like that still left where you can hook up with 10 or more steelhead a day? :o
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Anyone wach fish tv on channel 22 today? The guys were SLAMING! steelhead in a small creek on everything from live worms to flys. Is there places like that still left where you can hook up with 10 or more steelhead a day? :o
YES! Though not typically in the LM. Best I've heard of in the LM is 17 fish to hand between 4 anglers. But I know guys who've hooked 30 fish in a day on certain V.I. and northern B.C. rivers.
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Anyone wach fish tv on channel 22 today? The guys were SLAMING! steelhead in a small creek on everything from live worms to flys. Is there places like that still left where you can hook up with 10 or more steelhead a day? :o
yes...the show was prolly showin' a ton of fish.....but if you ever saw a fishin' show bein' produced u'd prolly say they caught 3 steels...and made 10 shots from different angels..hell...I saw Bob from the Real Fishin' Show at the Saugeen River in central Ont several years ago......took them 4 days to make a 30 min show...they landed 2 fish in 4 days.....howz that for a PRO!!!!]]
mojo jest sayin'...don' believe everything you read or see on tv/radio/internet etc... 8)
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Who says i do? ;D it also was a remote river/creek i guess those have stronger runs due to the low fishing pressure. I wish the vedder was like that. :-\
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all i know is that sport fishing bc is filmed in 8 hours. to prove to viewers that its possible to catch that many fish.
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yeah, lower does put me to sleep also, but one time in march i saw a guy, and in 3 cast to steelhead and he landed them both, another guy before me also lost one at the beach as well.
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OK Searun first!!!! You know that I'm just playin!!!!! I though that it would be a good way to get the lerker to finally post something!!!!! Well that worked!!!! So I will give you your do, I do thank you for A LOT for showing me the ropes, taking me under your wing so to say!!!!! I think that I learned the most from you in the first ten min that I knew you!!!! You said, make your presentation a bit smaller, and keep your line tighter to your float!!!! Awsome advice, because next cast, I hooked and landed a 10.5 lb Hatchery coho!!!!! That was awsome. ;D ;D That was the second coho I had every landed, and the first one was well a fluke out of allison pool!!!! ::) ::) In a spot that I am happy to say that I haven't fished again!! Searun showed me the light!!!! ;D ;D So I do thank you for that. 100+ coho later, I still learn from you and anyone else that I can!!!!!
Btw, Searun, this will be are 3rd Steelie derby that we have fished together, the first one we startes at wilson, saw the old guy catch the winner just down from us!!!! Then there was last year, when I was lucky enough to get that beauty!!!! So I guess that it will be your turn for this year!!!!! I know that you will get him this year as well!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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was gonna go in the derby, havent companie over this year. wont get out till january.1
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ahhh but remember Big Steel..... I'm hittin this years season with a vengeance, boxing day will be no exception..... hopefully will hook up with you and searun for the derby day
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That could more then likely happen!!!!! But we will talk tomorrow about that while you're watching me fight all those coho I'm going to practice on!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Yes Mojo but wasn't that in Ontario!!!!! ;) ;)
ok BS....I'll bite(pun intended ;D) why would steelhead from Ont be any different than BC steel?.?.?.?
mojo always willing to learn
no responce budz????...always entertain anothers thoughts/experiences.....;))
mojo
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in reference to multiple steelhead hook ups in a day. looking back in my steelhead log, back in 2002 one of my best days fishing with two other guys was hooking into 9 steelies in a day. 5 were hooked in 1.5 hours and a total of 6 were landed. the largest was about 15 lbs. all drift fishing.
another day fishing after xmas i watched a buddy hook into 6 steelies in one run. i only hooked into 1. but in total 6 fish were caught in one hole.
all fish were hooked with shrimp/ghost shrimp corkie and wool.
i think there are a few places even locally where it is possible to have mutliple day hook ups of steelies but timing and location are key.
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Took me a while to think about that one but here it is!!!!! ;D ;D ;D As for the green wool thing, the steelhead out here as far as I can tell see a whole different specrum of foods, shrimp being one of there favorites!!!! I could see that a properly trimmed and colored piece of wool might look like the back of one of these little tasty buggers. That color having a tint of green in it!!!!! The steelhead could be tricked into hitting this being that they are a pretty aggresive species. So I could see it working!!!! All I said was that I have never heard of it here in BC!!!!! I use green while targeting chum, and Red Spring seem to like this offering when mixed with some red or black as well!!!! But I could not see green wool being a go to kind of rig for steelhead. From my experience, along with a lot of time on the river with the old pros, not one of them has ever mentioned it when discussing baits or techniques!!!! I have tried pretty much everything that I could think of, even trying a squamish poacher, in scent under a float!!!! I have found 3 definate go to things that I primarily stick to and they have done me well. But I may have to try this green tinted wool, probably with a touch of light orange around the outside. Then throw on some Glow Shrimp scent and see what happens!!!! When I try this I will let you know!!!! I will try it more than just a few times this year as well!!!! I am now curious!!!! Afterall Mojo, I am always willing to learn something new as well!!!!
Also mojo, I am not totally aware of the spawning pattern of the steelhead in ontario!!! Like where they go when they leave there first river, or what kind of rivers they return to to finish there life cycle!!!! Are the rivers fast flowing with runs and ladders!!!! The rivers that I have seen out there on the TV shows seem to be somewhat like the Fraser, which would make it a completely different stlye of fishing!!! I know that the steelies out there enter smaller systems, but these as well require a different style and technique than that of the BC rivers. Any other information would be greatly appreciated, as I would always like to learn and possibly adapt other ways of inducing the mighty steelhead to hit in our rivers!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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i ahev seen pictures with blue wool in the mouth of a steelie before :o
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BS....I have many years experience with Ont steels....would really like to hook up.....betwixt our knowledge...I'll bet we both learn.....and my budz 99 will share in this as well....if ya wanna fish steel.....grab all the "weapons" ya kin...;))))
mojo
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B.S. you know everything i say is tongue in cheek, it so much more fun that way because i know you have a tendency to get irritated and it just makes me laugh even harder,also i forgot about that year at wilson but if you remember i did hook a small one that day and so did gt but we wont get into his luck steelheading as of late.You don't have to thank me for anything i just corrected a few small problems, you have managed the rest yourself,you see when we met you came across as a good enough guy that was willing to listen to improve the fishing for not only yourself but the people around you , maybe there is a lesson there for others on the river that are not quite as open to being given some free advice.Sorry for the lurking but i don't post that often because usually anything i have to say has allready been covered by the time i get home from work at midnight.P.S. Allways fishing the three of us should hook up for derby day then you and i can show b.s. how its done.
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sounds good searun the three of us will have to hook up. i think we have fished together before, the day the infamous video was shot I think.
When looking back on my early days of fishing I really had no fishing mentors whatsoever. I was 11, had a bmx bike and a protac 8ft spin with a abu garcia bigger size spinnin reel. before that dad used to take us to a dock on the fraser with worms but all we ever caught was bullheads and such. I'd see big fraser springs jumping back then and dreamed of catching one. we never knew about pink runs and fall coho and the likes. Then one day I read something, maybe in a b.c. outdoors mag , back in 1980 when it was a GREAT magazine, about fishing for coho on fraser bars. Off I went, worms in hand pedalling my bike from 88th avenue to patullo bridge for the crack of dawn every saturday. The old timers of then and some of the old timers of now (they weren't then hehe) saw a kid desperate to fish and they hooked me up. I watched , listened and learned with a desire that they must have sensed because they all showed me thier little tricks and boy, did i catch coho back then 8) . As a few years went by I heard about this vedder river... where there was coho and that fish that brought a glint in thier eyes... steelhead. of course, I had to know about this. From age 16 with a fresh driver's liscence I was on my quest to fish this river. I probably fished it a dozen times over a couple years and no success. Then I met a guy, a friend from school who had fished the vedder and many other rivers for salmon and steelhead since he was old enough to hold a rod. It didn't take long , nor much convincing to have my friend show me the ropes. I got the proper set up level wind and 10 1/2 ft shimano canadian custom and we were catching coho and then later that year, steelhead. Many other anglers both my age up to retirement age and 90% of them perfect strangers, you know them by face and never remember thier names, have contributed to my knowledge of salmon and steelhead fishing. I don't know where my passion for fishing came from but my passion for river float fishing and especially steelhead fishing is all thanx to my high school friend darren g. , thx man 8)
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BS...in Ont they used to have 2 major runs....spring and fall... the introduction of the Skamaina strain has opened a summer run as well...so basically there is fish in the river systems almost year round.....the rivers are fast water but smaller than I've seen on my trips to the LM....the Nicola river is a real good example of most but not all steel rivers in Ont...lots of oxbows....fast and slow water......most with dams within' a mile of the lake, with ladders ect....oh... the browns there run as well....my best brown was 14 lbs.....head was huge!!!!....personal opinion on best time to fish....after a torrential downpour when the water turns to chocolate milk....have had days when you hit 30 fish in 4 hours....but is tuff to land them in the higher water....if they hang in the hole...u'll prolly get them....if they make for the fast water...u'll never keep up with 'em....dam...I miss steel... :-\
mojo
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Allways fishing we will have to make some plans with b.s. for derby day it should be fun,Ya we did fish together on that infamous video day ,to bad we didn't find more fish that day but hey we were steelheading what more can we ask for.Love your story it sounds quite familiar to me i think its great if you can find someone to point you in the right direction especially when you are young.I first started fishing the fraser bars with my dad when i was very young with the odd trip to the vedder and in its better days the coquitlam river for steelhead,from that point on i knew i had to figure out this steelheading thing and learn to float fish but it wasn't until i was 16 and got my drivers license that i really took it seriously,i remember the early days for steelhead and coho were pretty tough and sometimes frustrating but i watched the guys that were catching fish and learned and slowly started catching more and more and was allways open to any pointers that were given,i owe allot to some of those veterans of the river that pointed me in the right direction,because of them and me putting in the time on the rivers i have enjoyed many great days on the flow,can you say fish on.
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Ahh Steelheading can you say FUN!!!. Here's a little story i was 16 living in Duncan we decided to skip school and take the rods and the Suzuki samaria up a mountain near by. Off we went to the top of this mountain pooring rain ugly weather any ways we barley make it to the spot due to intense wash outs on the steep road lets say the road was like a newly formed river with out the warn winch we never would of gotten to our destination. WE made it and we were in Steelhead heaven first cast Buddie hooks a beauty 18 lb wild on a Colorado second cast he hooks another around 12 lbs we stayed here fof 4 hours and it was non stop steelie action . We caught and released wild steelies the hole time we were there just amazing since then I have yet to catch another one I am 31 now it's been a long drought The only one that ihave been close to catching was near Dewdney Slough we were trolling for ho's and we just landed a 10 -12 ho hatchery. Next pass along the dyke produced some excitment we were just out side the pilings tolling a pink blue fox and a coho spoon when the WIFE says " i think i have something" so she starts to reel it in and the line stays slack untill i can see this monster fish im thinking 20 lb coho then it just keeps coming no fight at all so i grab the net it was laying on its side and had the big red stripe down the side i yell it's a hudge steelie then it goes nuts spooling jumping tailwalking and gone . The wife pipes up why did't you net it stupid it was right there i was in shock she never set the hook it never fought untill it seen the boat .
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Ya steelheading is great fun and can be a good challenge , gotta love the stories and memories from the great days and not so great days on the flow,some days you just shake your head and have a laugh.
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BS...in Ont they used to have 2 major runs....spring and fall... the introduction of the Skamaina strain has opened a summer run as well...so basically there is fish in the river systems almost year round.....the rivers are fast water but smaller than I've seen on my trips to the LM....the Nicola river is a real good example of most but not all steel rivers in Ont...lots of oxbows....fast and slow water......most with dams within' a mile of the lake, with ladders ect....oh... the browns there run as well....my best brown was 14 lbs.....head was huge!!!!....personal opinion on best time to fish....after a torrential downpour when the water turns to chocolate milk....have had days when you hit 30 fish in 4 hours....but is tuff to land them in the higher water....if they hang in the hole...u'll prolly get them....if they make for the fast water...u'll never keep up with 'em....dam...I miss steel... :-\
mojo
Thanks for the info about the Ontario Steelhaed runs and the tyoes of rivers!!!! ;D ;D I was also wondering what fishing methods were used to catch these wonderous fish?? Types of bait and so on!!!! Would be greatly appreciated to here about this as well!!!!
PS Just let me know when you are coming down to the lower mainland, I wouldn't mind seeing how an old pro does it!!!! Even if you are a make belief fan!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Freak you have no idea!!!!! ;D ;D ;D I could go on and on and on and on about steelies!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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So did it work then ??!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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in the photo gallery they have some nice steelies. :)
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BS....I fish Steel with a pin 'n noodle rod....mainline 6 lb maxima....leader 4 lb maxima....usually use Blackbird floats....and BB sized splitshot....and a tiny barrel swivel.....start with your float on the mainline(no lost floats this way when you break off on a snag or fish).....add 2 shot then swivel...add leader usually bout 4 ft....tie #16 Mustad Laser Sharp hook....then place shot on leader....first shot is about 18 in from hook....second shot is about 14 inches from first shot....3rd is bout 10 inches from 2nd.....the idea is to allow the weight to take your hook down....but still allow the hook to precede the rest of the setup as it drifts into the run.......so the fish see's the hook first....not after the float has passed over it and most likely spooked it....the closer to the float the closer the shot is spaced....keeps your float cocked and your bait downstream....often I'll replace the hook with a nymph pattern....often turns the trick....sometimes I'll tie a tiny bit of floss into the knot to add a lil attraction....peach is often a good color....in colored water go bright(chartruse) in clear water white-peach-orange is a good choice...I never use roe bags....but have been known to cook up a batch of single eggs...cos lets face it folks...most of these fish key in on single eggs...its whats on the plate for dinner most evenings...IMHO small baits and line causes more break offs....but generates way more hits...u know...the guy beside you says they ain't hittin'....as his 30lb mono blocks out the sun.....lol......but the best thing to have out on the flow is CONFIDENCE.....get some of that and the battles half won....your mileage may vary..... ;D
mojo nowhere near a pro
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Mojo I would love to see if that noodle rod and 6lb test work out here!!!!!! That would be something to see!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I'm in......will advise on my arrival bout end of Feb....thinkin' this will the best time.....lemme know if "my" thoughts" r wrong...;)))))
mojo
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I'm in......will advise on my arrival bout end of Feb....thinkin' this will the best time.....lemme know if "my" thoughts" r wrong...;)))))
mojo
Your thoughts I don't think will be wrong!!!!! Depending on whether the steelies are affected by things like it seems the socks and coho were this year, that should be a great time to come!!!!! ;D ;D By then I should also have some nice runs picked out for you!!!!!! ;D ;D
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see!!!!!....I'm not crazy...I'm just a little Steel impaired...;))))
mojo gettin' horny now
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Finally, there seems to be nothing left to say!!!!!!! But at least this thread has been a very helpful and informative one, and I hope that it has been and will be very helpful to new and old steeheaders.!! ;D ;D Besides there was a lot of awesome steely porn as well!!!!!! ;D ;D Thanks to everyone that has helped with there tips, stories and photos!!! ;D ;D May all of your floats go down!!! ;) ;)
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It is funny .. I have been reading some of the posts on this thread... I can feel the energy and excitement from everybody that I feel myself....that whole feeling of excitement on that long drive to the river... sometimes I can barely sleep the night before because I am so excited about hitting the flow!!!! and on those cold wintery days when there is no one around just you and the falling snow... some wind rustling throught the trees.. and then wham!!! down goes the float .... it is hard to believe that we have this kind of opportunity so close to home!!!!! I wish my girlfriend could understand a lil more the enthusiasm I show towards fishing... she can't understand why I need seven rods and six reels and a thousand dollars worth of gear!! hahaha and when I bring home a beautiful hatchery doe... all she can say is... it better not stink like fish in the kitchen when you are done >:( :o ;D ;D ::) some people will never understand... that is why we have this site.. we are just a bunch of whackos that all understand eachother hahahaha ;D
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yeah i feel were ur comming from,good thing is, my moms dad fished every weekend too so she knows now how her mom felt. hey i think we just made this the biggest thread, 249 and the who are u is 248, but now we have 250 8)
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Wow, this thread got resurected almost 4 months after the last post, and I didn't even have to do it!!! ;D Up to 251 replies now!! I know how you feel Rick, that is why I thought a thread like this would be good, so everyone could see and try to learn what Steelheading is all about!! :D I think that so far it has done it's job well!! ;D
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Well said ThickRick. Some people just don't get it. ;)
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I wish my girlfriend could understand a lil more the enthusiasm I show towards fishing... she can't understand why I need seven rods and six reels and a thousand dollars worth of gear!! hahaha and when I bring home a beautiful hatchery doe... all she can say is... it better not stink like fish in the kitchen when you are done Angry Shocked Grin Grin Roll Eyes some people will never understand... that is why we have this site.. we are just a bunch of whackos that all understand eachother hahahaha Grin
I go fishing 3 times a week,i go whenever i want and i come home with whatever i want. she's your girlfriend now and this is what you have to deal with, imagine what she will be like when she's your WIFE. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :o :o My wife never askes when I go fishing and never complains when I bring home a big one. You need a woman who lets you do your thing and supports you as well. What happens when your girlfriend goes shopping with clothes that adds up throughout the year??? Do you complain as to how much money she spends??? If she can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D This is just my own thought,my wife told me to type it ;) ;) ;) ;).So dont worry be happy,go fishing....TTTTTight line :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Thats the beauty of her BIG T ... she may not understand it but she would never stop me from doing it.. she knows it is my thing and thats all that matters.. I think I'll keep her ;D
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OK this topic was started almost a year ago to the day. It holds a ton of great info and some of us thought it would be good for the newer members to talk a look at it!! It may be a bit long, ;D but well worth at least a skim!! If anyone has something new to add to it, feel free!! ;D
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Is this your attempt to pad that reply total or what. I think that bs wants to hold the record for the most replies to one topic ;D ;D ;D .
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Hes doing a pretty good job at getting there, maybe we should keep this thread from ever making #1 ;D woops ill have to delete this post.
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Missed the fun last year with this thread. Here is my take of steelheading:
Steelheading is the ultimate sport fishing, the hunt, the walking, stalking, reading water, the constant need for analysis and adjustment to river condition, the rain, cold, snow, wind, the solitude, the toughness, the diehard steelheader's blood of persistence & patience, the endless casts, the anticipation & the magic moment of the disappearing float, the hookset, wham! :D The strong runs & acrobatic jumps of the silver bullet, the hard battle won or lost (doesn't matter), and the consumate feeling that you had been graced by one of the great sport fish of the world - that is the kind of experience that drives a hard-nosed steelheader to brave the elements in the depth of winter while most mortals are contented to keep warm indoor.
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hopefully there big steel!
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This will be the first year steelheading for this kid, and man am I looking forward to to it. I'm counting down the days till I can go for the first time rather than counting the days till Christmas. :D Looking forward to it and if anyone wants to give me a little advice or a good spot I won't complain ;)
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Thats the beauty of her BIG T ... she may not understand it but she would never stop me from doing it.. she knows it is my thing and thats all that matters.. I think I'll keep her ;D
Their all like that...then the ring comes...and well, misery loves company ;D
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One thing about steelheading is the changing of the river every year due to heavy rain like now. New pools, runs & new hot spots are to be found each year. As bad as the flooding going on there now, one silver lining is the chance to discover new spots to make steelheading interesting every year.
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Very good point liketofish. I was just getting used to my runs from last year, not there is a 99% chance they will be gone. Time to find new ones, and I am kinda getting excited to see what the river will hold for us when she drops back into shape. But, I shouldn't have a problem with finding time to explore as it looks like I may have a couple weeks in Mid December to hunt out some new and truly "Secret Runs"!! ;) ;D
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now with the river like this (flooding) every body should be out there scouting new runs as soon as it gets to a fishable level!
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Very good point liketofish. I was just getting used to my runs from last year, not there is a 99% chance they will be gone. Time to find new ones, and I am kinda getting excited to see what the river will hold for us when she drops back into shape. But, I shouldn't have a problem with finding time to explore as it looks like I may have a couple weeks in Mid December to hunt out some new and truly "Secret Runs"!!
You keep a secret about a good run BS. That will last all but one week, if that ::) ;D ;D . Now that definatly sounds like BS ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You keep a secret about a good run BS. That will last all but one week, if that ::) ;D ;D . Now that definatly sounds like BS ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well, I now know someone that won't be getting any inside info from me!! ::) ;D
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About the changing river, I don't know what happen below the Crossing Bridge, but the section above is changed totally. The flow towards Cutlus Lake outflow is now totally dry. The river found its way back to the Teski Rock (approx). Also, the main flow in Wades Field (approx) is now also dry. The little side channel at the road side is now the main flow. All the trees at Eagle run are also gone, the river flattens that area. I am not sure if the old Ranger Pool is still there. These are only areas one can see from the road. There are going to be changes all over. Boy, when the river is back to shape, there are going to be soooo many new hot spots to discover... exciting to even think about it. :)
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Thanks for the update on some of the things the river has done. I have been wonderig about it for a while, and was hoping that the river ame back in certain areas that used to be awesome steelhead runs. ;) Will be a new river indeed, and a blast finding where the steelies are hiding now!! ;D
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Thanks for resurrenting this thread. I will be reading this :)
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Charles do you keep/breed africans?