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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Youngin on October 11, 2005, 09:17:31 PM
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Well since the strike and all its nothing but partyin for me.. :) my dad had a day off today so we took off to go fishing.. got at the place around 3ish.. only to see some people took our spot :( well.. we go to our other spot just near there.. we fish for a few hours.. my dad hooks nothing, but me, that's a different story... my first fish was a spring.. about 25 pounds my guess.. i had it under control untill it just forced it's way into rushing water.. and you know what that means.. snap goes the line.. my second fish.. on for about 30 seconds then lost it.. then just about to pack up.. i casted in and walked down the river.. hey where's my float?? fish on! holy this one takes me upstream.. then downstream... I don't know what to do with it... I give it to my dad.. the fish jumps about 3 times, we now know its a big coho.... it just keeps peeling my line downstream into the rushing water... and same thing again.. snap goes the line.. sigh... next time. I'm thinking of getting braided line for these beasts! fun day tho.. NO SCHOOL TOMORROW :) ;D
by the way.. I used a 25 pound main line.. with a 20 pound leader.. so now you can imagine how hard that coho fought :/
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How do you break 20lb leader???? how old is it. monofiliment will deteriorate in UV light or sunlight. doesnt last much more than a year. I have a hard enough time breaking 10lb. And remember most bait casters can hold over 130yrds of line. that is 390ft. USE IT let the fish take line. there is no need to stop the fish RIGHT NOW.
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Yeah, but at the spot I was at.. I wasn't willing to go in the water.. run down the rocks.. climb some more rocks run down more STEEP rocks.. haha trust me.. i had to force that fish back or else it would have been just pointless.. I would have gone with that fish if i could have. Safety FIRST! :P and the leader was quite new.. and the coho was quite big.. probably 13-15 pounds ATLEAST..
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Nice job on hooking the fish!!!! But braided line won't help you land the fish!!!! If the fish broke your main line and not the leader, then you might want to watch how you tie your knots. Even with braided line you have to use a leader that won't spook the fish!!!! I use 15lb main line max. and 8-10 lb leader depending on water clairity!!!! This weekend I landed 3 massive spring on 8&10lb test leaders. The biggest one was 40lb plus, that one was on an 8lb leader!! I will post the pics of him tomorrow. The other ones were on a 10lb leader. Once I realized that I probably wasn't going to hit a coho I went up to 10lb test. But I guess that it is all what you feel comfortable with.
Don't get me wrong, it is not easy to land fish that big with a light line leader. You have to be in the right water, and have a lot of patience with the fish. Getting lucky helps a lot as well!!!!
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Yah how did you snap that 20 pound leader was your drag set on "NONE"?
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One more negative to braided line is that it doesn't stretch. This puts all the abuse on your rod and leader. It's kind of nice to have a built in shock absorber with mono line. P.S., I change my line out about 4 times/ year and never let my leader sit more than 1 year without buying new leader. Line will loose at least 7% of its strength/ year according to Maxima.
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One more negative to braided line is that it doesn't stretch.
On the positive side of the ledger, it allows for more effective hook sets. I love my Tuff XP
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IVE NEVER SNAPPED 20 LB LINE ON ANY SALMON :-[
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thats because you have never caught a salmon. using 20 pound line won't improve your chances either.
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I don't know. must be the way i fish :) also.. a possibility.. my weight might have gotten stuck between the rocks.. becuaes my weight was gone as well..
also, you guys probably missed the part where I could not move down stream.. i was in a small stretch then the river curved.. and i have to wade then go back to the rocks.. then hike UP the rocks with a rod and a fish on.. good luck with that.. the fish hit the rushing water I had nothing to do but try to HORSE it in. which as you see didn't work :) next time ill go on the other side of the river.. you can go downstream from there
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When I choose a spot to fish, I often consider whether the location is ideal for landing a fish as well so I do not end up in a situation like what Youngin described above. The only time I was almost in that situation was when I fished with Chrome Mykiss in faster water last Thursday. I was into a medium size chinook salmon and although I was able to bring it to shore, it did put quite a bit of strain on my gear.
Generally my coho set up would be 12lb test main, 8lb test leader. For chinook, 15lb test main, 10 to 12lb test leader. For chum, 12lb test main, 8 or 10lb test leader (depending on current). For pink, 8lb test leader as well as it would produce just as many fish as 6lb test leader.
When you find yourself with a out-of-control chinook that is running like a train, hold your rod sideways instead of holding it straight up. By holding your rod to the side, or even having the tip in the water, you'll find that it is much easier to turn the fish and bring it to you. Chrome Mykiss taught me that. ;)
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thanks.. il try that next time.. but yea.. the only reason we went there because it has an abundant load of fish! so we were like whatever we'll put on a tougher leader and tank it in.. didn't work :) and our normal spot.. which had space.. was taken :(
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I've had 15 and 20 pounds leaders snaped quite a few times before by monster springs, and that was while being patien with the fish. I always assumed that it wasn't really snapping but just a result of the fish having a bunch of sharp teeth. Could that be a reason? (I've changed to another brand of leader anyway, it is Maxima now).
Yopesco
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Always keep safety in mind first. I cannot stress this enough. I was in the upper river Saturday below the Tamahi bridge and a guy had tailed a spring. I was undoing a little birds nest and looked up to my suprise here was this fellow. I know there was nobody fishing near me at all. I said ooh you tailed a spring he said yah. I was about to move out of his way and he fell flat on his face! I could plainly see he was freaked out I told him to stand up! He just sat there, shocked, for a sec. I then said louder Stand Up!! and stepped towards him as it looked like his waders where about start to fill. He managed to stand and get his composure. I asked if he was ok, he said yeah, and was tired of chasing the spring about 1/2 mile down the river. I mentioned again that he had tailed it and should just snap it off. but he caught his breath and I moved out of his way, he was able to bring it in and gently release it. No fish is worth drowning over, always pick out a suitable spot to fish, and to land the fish as well. Most importantly, Know Your Limits.
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Dont see that everyday.
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Always keep safety in mind first. I cannot stress this enough. I was in the upper river Saturday below the Tamahi bridge and a guy had tailed a spring. I was undoing a little birds nest and looked up to my suprise here was this fellow. I know there was nobody fishing near me at all. I said ooh you tailed a spring he said yah. I was about to move out of his way and he fell flat on his face! I could plainly see he was freaked out I told him to stand up! He just sat there, shocked, for a sec. I then said louder Stand Up!! and stepped towards him, as it looked like his waders where about start to fill. He managed to stand, and got his composure. I asked if he was ok, he said yeah, and was tired of chasing the spring for about 1/2 mile down the river. I mentioned again that he had tailed it and should just snap it off. He then said oh he didn't know it was snagged, but he caught his breath, I moved out of his way, he was able to bring it in, and gently release it. No fish is worth drowning over alway pick out a suitable spot to fish and land the fish as well. Most importantly, Know Your Limits.
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Fully agree with gillie. that is the reason i did not follow the fish.. I was near the tahimi bridge also. ive seen people fall and lose their rods.. which sucks even more
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How many anglers out there fishing in river would wear an inflatable life vest?
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Not me. I would rather be very carefull and take my chances.
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Thats the secret to landing big springs on 10lb test, holding the rod sideways on the downstream side forces the fish to constantly turn its head, the more it fights to turn its head back into the current the quicker it tires ;)
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Keep in mind to that a fish you cant controll is often foul hooked. Please dont freak out and take that as me accusing you of snagging...just making a simple generalization that a fish that goes bezerk is often foul hooked and a .
My dad, bug pumper and I fished a cliff section of whites 2 weeks ago. We had 30 feet of bank to use and below that the river turned into a fast chute. I landed a 15lb spring on 8lb leader and my dads 30 lber was landed on 8lb leader too! If you had 20 lb leader break, I would question the quality of the mono or as Big Steel pointed out, maybe its your knots?
I was reading an article in a fly mag and it said a 80 lb sailfish weighs 10lb under water and the author was suggesting lighter line and patience is all you need to boat a big fish.
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I was fishing across peach yesterday and I noticed this guy with a young kid of about 5 or 6. He was fishing on a steep enbankment and the kid was standing next to the river playing. One mistake, the kid would be in the water and going down rapid water. I was tempted to scream across the river to warn him about the danger.
I had to look around myself to see if I can help just in case if he does fall in.
It is just amazing what people are willing to do for a couple of fish.
With the teacher's strike, we will see more kids out there fishing with their dads.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THE KIDS
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Gooey. at the place I was at.. you would see people constintly breaking their hooks. with a 10 lb leader YOU WOULD NOT be able to take these fish out.. and your concern about it being foul hooked.. it wasn't because it made a few jumps and we could see the hook in the mouth.. It was a big coho. and you generally try to let them run but this one got too far. and once it went far down stream.. the river turns and there's no way you can get it back unless it decides for some reason to run back at you, I will try holding my rod sideways next time.. thanks for the big tip. I would have probably gotten it out if I held my rod sideways :)
My dad actually told me to do that, but I've never had a fish peel so much of my line.. this is the freshest and largest coho I've ever had on for such a long period of time! I was kind of in panic :P by the way, this is the first coho I've ever hooked in the passed 1 and a half or so years!
How many anglers out there fishing in river would wear an inflatable life vest?
Barely any, unless your rich, you see the price on those things!?!!?!? I'm already broke off waders and my rod!
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Ahhhh...doesnt matter if you landed or lost those fish, you got to fish with your dad... :) lucky kid!
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How many anglers out there fishing in river would wear an inflatable life vest?
I wear a mustad camo life jacket depending on where I'm fishing.
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Ahhhh...doesnt matter if you landed or lost those fish, you got to fish with your dad... :) lucky kid!
I always fish with my dad :)
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I need a son so I can take him fishin.....any one got one I could borrow.....as soon as they start compainin about something I wanna give em back though
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I'll rent my self for 10 bucks an hour :D I can also tail and net fish!
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Good grief, stop the teachers strike already. ::)
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I was fishing across peach yesterday and I noticed this guy with a young kid of about 5 or 6. He was fishing on a steep enbankment and the kid was standing next to the river playing. One mistake, the kid would be in the water and going down rapid water. I was tempted to scream across the river to warn him about the danger.
I had to look around myself to see if I can help just in case if he does fall in.
It is just amazing what people are willing to do for a couple of fish.
With the teacher's strike, we will see more kids out there fishing with their dads.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THE KIDS
I totally agree long weekend Sat went to Vedder with my parents. And kids want to go fishing. took them to Alice lake on Mon. Feel safer then bringing them to river bank.
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Let them enjoy their fishing because once they are back at school the teachers will make them work twice as hard to make up for lost time! They wont be fishing again until next fall!!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album23/001_1_001.jpg)
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That's a honkin big fish ! :)
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There that worked now!!!! I'm starting to get this thing now!!!!! ;D ;D Slow learner I guess!!!!!
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I must start off to say that I am an avid fisherman and I respect others except when they are complete morons. For example I live right on Peach Rd. and I'm telling ya some of the guys that fish there are complete idiots the way they drive down my road. They drive like theres a bloody fire, and there are alot of kids and families down here. If this keeps up I am going straight to the city with a letter of complait concerning this issue. So if any of you guys fish down peach rd. please be conciderate of others before someone gets killed. >:(
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You should contact some neighbors, and petition the city to put up some speed bumps...if thats possible on peach Rd....
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I doubt the teachers will go hard on us after the strike... most of the teachers I have are pretty lazy... more homework = more marking
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Birdman il send you a pm later on how to do it if you like.
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since the school strike ive been hitting the rivers to... got skunked today.. headin out tommorow
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I doubt the teachers will go hard on us after the strike... most of the teachers I have are pretty lazy... more homework = more marking
And we are lead to believe that the strike is for the kids :o
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my god!!! that is a beast, nice fish man!
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Big Steel nothing personal but that fish is petty dirty for a pic don't you think? ;)
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I've had 15 and 20 pounds leaders snaped quite a few times before by monster springs, and that was while being patien with the fish. I always assumed that it wasn't really snapping but just a result of the fish having a bunch of sharp teeth. Could that be a reason? (I've changed to another brand of leader anyway, it is Maxima now).
Yopesco
Hey! I remember that day. It was something like 8 fish in a row wasn't it. Pinchi pescodos! If you want to avoid that problem come fish with me, all the fish I catch now are small ::)
Jon
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Sorry mark, The fish was in better shape than you think!!!!! Besides, it took 40min to land that thing on an 8 lb leader!!!! Everyone else there thought thst it was an awsome fish!!! So I posted it. Yes he is not the cleanest fish in the world, but he was far from spoiled. ;) ;)
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No worries mate its all cool its a biggon.
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Nope, no worries!!!! That is why this is a discussion forum!!! Everyone is entitled to their own opinoin!!! :) :)
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I think Big Steel just wanted a reason to pose for the camera ;D ;D ;D
BTW........nice pic......one sure could appreciate the size of that HOG :o
Well done BS!
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Yes, there you have it!!!!!
I think Big Steel just wanted a reason to pose for the camera ;D ;D ;D
BTW........nice pic......one sure could appreciate the size of that HOG :o
Well done BS!
Coho has been a bit slow, so I haven't had a chance to pose that much this fall!!!! I'll take what I can get!!!! ;D ;D Besides, when the rain really started coming down, I couldn't pullout the digital without the girlfriend rippin a strip off me!!!!! ;D ;D So I missed some picks, I'm glad that I took the feww that I did!!!! :P :P
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I couldn't pullout the digital without the girlfriend rippin a strip off me!!!!!
Well thats your first problem, keep girlfriends and fishing seperate. It's important that she understands your need to fish 3 times a week but IMHO it's best that she has her hobbies and you have yours.
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HA Biff, I could only be so lucky to get out three times a week!!!!! Oh, and she was at home this weekend studying, but it is a new camera, and if I messed it up, I would never hear the end of it!!!! ;D ;D ;D Dude, seriously she never forgets!!!! But she does let me do my thing, which is really good!!!! ;D
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Good to hear. I was out fishing with one of my buddies this summer and his girlfriend calls him out on the river 3 times in like an hour. We ended up having to call it quits early cause she was lonley and wanted to see him. :-X
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Ouch biff that had to suck !!!!!! Lol!!!!! ;D
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Good to hear. I was out fishing with one of my buddies this summer and his girlfriend calls him out on the river 3 times in like an hour. We ended up having to call it quits early cause she was lonley and wanted to see him. :-X
Well there's the problem........it's not the g/f, it's your buddy that should've "accidentally-on-purpose" turned the phone off ;)
When i go fishing with a bud........i make it clear that we don't leave early for any reasons other than emergencies (not including g/f's being lonely). We usually agree on a time we should leave......give or take a "last cast" or so ;D
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WOW,big fish there big steel,lol.must have been some fight.hey biff hows the fishin' been?
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I have a few of those stories too, like the walky talky incident at this year's St Mary Lake trip. ::) But I won't say more than that as I fear that I maybe banned by one of the moderators. ;)
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Well - just go fish the upper Chilliwack - there's no cell phone reception up there! Hey guys - it's too late for me. I've been married now for over 7 years now! My wife does let me get out though. NOT three times per week. But I do get out at least once per week during the salmon season. And I have obtained some decent fly gear - so I consider myself extremely lucky! Now if I can just upgrade my drift gear... :). Nope! :P
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i just got some new fly gear from.. j&r acoutics.. the went testin out my gear at the stave it was pure genious equitment
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Well - just go fish the upper Chilliwack - there's no cell phone reception up there! Hey guys - it's too late for me. I've been married now for over 7 years now! My wife does let me get out though. NOT three times per week. But I do get out at least once per week during the salmon season. And I have obtained some decent fly gear - so I consider myself extremely lucky! Now if I can just upgrade my drift gear... :). Nope! :P
yeah. my mom lets me n my dad fish.. she gets irritated tho if we go more then twice a week :P DAMN my cell phone works upper chilliwack :( but sometimes .. I kind of.. forget.. to turn on the ring tone... ;)
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I thought J and R is a salt water aquarium store.
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I doubt the teachers will go hard on us after the strike... most of the teachers I have are pretty lazy... more homework = more marking
And we are lead to believe that the strike is for the kids :o
What are you talking about? where's my share in the wage increase.. how does class reduction help me!? i'll lose my study budies! I heard an ad in the radio "It's about the kids" you know what I said? BULL!@%^
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pink, I haven't been out on the river at all this fall. Stuck up in Edmonton :-[ Least I'll get to sqeeze 4 days in in november.
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What are you talking about? where's my share in the wage increase.. how does class reduction help me!? i'll lose my study budies! I heard an ad in the radio "It's about the kids" you know what I said? BULL!@%^
Canada has the lowest student number per class in G7 but where does that put us?
What kind of education can you expect from a bunch that do not abide to law.
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Please take your teachers strike discussion to:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8340.0