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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: tommytai on June 27, 2005, 12:01:35 PM

Title: Buntzen Lake
Post by: tommytai on June 27, 2005, 12:01:35 PM
Is electric motor allowed on this lake ?
What time does the gate open/ close ?

Appreciate all responses.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Roots on June 27, 2005, 04:39:08 PM
Yup. Electric motors are allowed at Buntzen. During summer, the gate opens at 8am and closes at 9pm. If you have any more questions you can phone the Warden's Office at 604-469-9679. Buntzen Lake Info Page (http://www.bchydro.com/recreation/mainland/mainland1208.html)

Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: tommytai on June 28, 2005, 10:19:26 AM
Thanks Roots !!
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Roots on June 28, 2005, 04:50:42 PM
No problem. If you're trolling and even if you have a fish finder, you still might wanna check out the  Buntzen Lake Depth Map. (http://srmapps.gov.bc.ca/apps/awiz/bath_images/pdf/00098001.pdf) It's in PDF format, so you have to zoom in to actually be able to read it. Good Luck !
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Sandhead on June 29, 2005, 09:12:16 PM
When fishing buntzen do you fish the north end or south end?
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Roots on June 30, 2005, 10:00:04 AM
Both I guess... depends on how I'm fishing. Just look for dropoffs and the areas where the water is oxygenated. Hmm....
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 01, 2005, 07:03:07 PM
What do u usually use for bait? Powerbait...I would think. But can u catch them on shrimp?

thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 01, 2005, 07:04:04 PM
You'll be able to catch them on shrimp, PowerBait, dew worm. The fishing at Buntzen Lake should be very good because the lake was recently stocked with a lot of trout.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 01, 2005, 07:11:26 PM
I forgot to ask...but the phone number for the Fraser Valley Hatchery doesn't work for me. I phoned in at ten, would it be because it's closed at that time, or that number doesn't work anymore?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 01, 2005, 07:14:38 PM
You phoned today? Those people do have holidays too you know. ;)
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 01, 2005, 10:32:57 PM
Whoops, I totally forgot about that. And again, I forgot to ask, what kind of bait is the best for catching rainbows there?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 01, 2005, 11:35:28 PM
You'll be able to catch them on shrimp, PowerBait, dew worm.

When you reach the lake from the parking lot, proceed to a trail on the right as there are a couple of floating docks where you can fish off. Directly in front of the floating dock, the water depth is ideal. Either cast a float out with a worm underneath it or bottom fish. Either way you should be able to get bites, not just from rainbow trout, but also from pikeminnows. If you have any small spinners, use those too. Further north from the floating docks, you'll also find some shore access that can be productive. Weekends maybe busy, especially if the weather is hot, there maybe swimmers.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 03, 2005, 10:44:48 AM
About the trail on the right, how long does it take to walk to the nearest dock? Like 5 minutes? And from reading another site, there's another dock on the northern tip of the lake. Is it accesible by car? Oh yea...what about the dock on the left side, where everyone fishes from? Does that produce good fishing? And since I'm going to go there on weekdays, I don't have to care about the swimmers and the parking lot being overcrowded. ;D. Regarding to the float technique, can i just use a "dibbs" float? Or whatever they're called. The ones that are slim all the way through and has the bright orange tip on the top. And extending from the float is just a small weight and a hook? If that works, would a size 4 hook be too big for a shrimp to fit? And I only need put like 3-4 feet of line from the float, correct?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 03, 2005, 11:19:52 AM
The floating docks on the right are within sight when you get to the lake. Fish where the fish are, not where the people are fishing. ;) More people fishing does not necessarily mean more fish. Adjust your float depth based on condition, experiment a bit, water condition differs from day to day. Size 4 hook is fine, hoods a shrimp well, but easier to lose the trout. Size 6 or 8 hooks are better for hookups, but the bait does not hold as well. Any float should work, as long as it is appropriate for the fish size. Don't use a huge float, since most fish are between 10 and 12 inches long.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 03, 2005, 08:11:46 PM
What if I switch to pike minnows? Would I use a whole shrimp, while still using the size 4 hook? OR would I just use a smaller hook, such as a size 13, and using only half a shrimp? And would it be ok, if I use peanut butter dough? Like...would the fish be biting the dough?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: leaping steely on July 04, 2005, 12:16:18 AM
What if I switch to pike minnows? Would I use a whole shrimp, while still using the size 4 hook? OR would I just use a smaller hook, such as a size 13, and using only half a shrimp? And would it be ok, if I use peanut butter dough? Like...would the fish be biting the dough?

Thanks. Ian ;D
I've caught Pike Minnows on the same setup as the Rainbow Trout. Pike Minnows will eat almost anything. I remember one time someone used a piece of string, a hook, and some cheese off the dock and caught a Pike Minnow.  ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: BwiBwi on July 04, 2005, 03:26:08 AM
I was at Buntzen Lake sometime ago caught and release a few 2 inch fish don't know what they are. Any guess?
for sure not young trout, or pikeminnow.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Zaphod on July 04, 2005, 10:12:46 AM
I was at Buntzen Lake sometime ago caught and release a few 2 inch fish don't know what they are. Any guess?
for sure not young trout, or pikeminnow.

I had this exact same experience 2 weeks ago.  I don't know what they were, but mine looked like bottom feeders of some kind.  Is that what yours looked like?  I was blown away by how large of a hook + bait these little fish were willing to go after!
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 04, 2005, 10:20:25 AM
How exactly did u catch those fish? By using a float?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: ~IvAn~ on July 04, 2005, 10:52:34 AM

Quote

I had this exact same experience 2 weeks ago.  I don't know what they were, but mine looked like bottom feeders of some kind. 
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 could be sucker fish.....
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 04, 2005, 10:38:35 PM
I don't care what they are, but today I went fishing there :D. Man, I didn't even try to cast my line out there. All I had to do is put a sinker and hook with shrimp, and bingo. Just dropped it down the pier. I caught five carps. I never knew there were carps there. They were the slender ones. ( I don't know what they're called). But they were really good fighting. I had a lot of fun with them. The biggest one was about 18 inches. It : was from my fingertips to my elbow :o. I've never caught htem before, and god they were fun! I'd go there again this week and catch more of these. Forget the rainbows. They don't fight as well as the carps. And I could see them biting my bait too. HAHA...don't really know if that counts as fishing if u can see the fish, but it was awesome.

Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: The_Roe_Man on July 04, 2005, 11:00:50 PM
Sorry, there is no carp in buntzen.  You probobly caught a largescale sucker or other type of sucker.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 05, 2005, 12:11:57 AM
Species found in Buntzen Lake:

Coastal Cutthroat Trout, Cutthroat Trout, Cutthroat Trout (Anadromous), Kokanee, Largescale Sucker, Northern Pikeminnow (formerly N. Squawfish), Peamouth Chub, Prickly Sculpin, Rainbow Trout, Redside Shiner, Sucker (General), Threespine Stickleback
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Roots on July 05, 2005, 12:30:45 AM
Here are some familiar faces from Buntzen Lake...

Largescale Sucker

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/largescalesucker.gif)

Northern Pike Minnow

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/northernpikeminnow.jpg)

Peamouth Chub

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/peamouthchub.jpg)

Prickly Sculpin

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/priklysculpin.jpg)

Redside Shiner

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/redsideshiner.jpg)

Threespine Stickleback

(http://www.geocities.com/jd_boywonder/threespinestick.jpg)
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: BwiBwi on July 05, 2005, 12:59:49 AM
Wow root that's great.  It's redside shiner I caught.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 05, 2005, 01:05:11 AM
It sounds like many of you are interested in fish identification etc. Here's a handy link that can be used to identify your BC fish in the future. Pay close attention to specific physical features of your fish.

Field Key to the Freshwater Fishes of British Columbia (http://srmwww.gov.bc.ca/risc/pubs/aquatic/freshfish/fresht-61.htm#p3962_165364)
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Zaphod on July 05, 2005, 10:01:15 AM
How exactly did u catch those fish? By using a float?

Thanks. Ian ;D

Yep.  A light Thill float on 6 lb mainline with a 2 foot long 4 lb leader.  #8 hook with cooked shrimp on, fished at about 6 foot depth off the far dock on the east side.

Looks like what I was catching were Prickly Sculpins.  Very, very tiny though.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: salmon assasin on July 05, 2005, 11:04:42 AM
Rod you say there are Anadromous cuttys in buntzen, do they go out through the turbines in Indian arm or is that just another strain of fish in the lake?
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 05, 2005, 11:06:17 AM
Not sure, I would think so. The information I posted was taken from Fish Wizard and it was probably obtained by doing population samplings of the lake.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 05, 2005, 01:03:07 PM
Whoops...I guess they were largesscale suckers. Darn...but they were nice fighting.

Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: BwiBwi on July 05, 2005, 01:16:30 PM
How did it taste?
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 05, 2005, 01:31:15 PM
Why is he joking? Just because we are so spoiled with finer eating freshwater species like salmon and trout, doesn't mean there are no other edible species in this province.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Rodney on July 05, 2005, 03:47:26 PM
They don't? What are your reasonings? Have you actually cooked and tasted a largescale sucker, northern pikeminnow and peamouth chub?

Do halibut, sole, flounder, rockfish, cod, lingcod, burbot and many other groundfish look tasty?

We treat our salmon, steelhead and trout like some holy creature, yet we treat those "not so edible" species worse than the crap we dump in our waterways.

60 years ago atlantic bluefin tuna were commercially caught on the east coast only to be processed as pet food. It was only when the Japanese buyers came and bought them, North Americans soon recognized their food value.

How about this one here?

(http://www.star-fish.co.nz/images/John_Dory.jpg)

Do you think this one tastes good?

Why is it not ok to handle a released steelhead with dry hand, while some people have absolutely no problem with tossing a northern pikeminnow or sculpin into the bush because they threaten our "endangered species"? Some of the most endangered native fish species are the ones that have no commercial value, yet occupy important ecological niches.

Thoughts of Tuesday.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 05, 2005, 03:48:54 PM
Hehe...they weren't too bad! I thouht they were carp, so I told my dada that it was edible. I ate a bit, my dad and my grandma ate a lot :o!  They thought it was good, except that it had too many bone. But if I catch another one next time, I'm not going to steam it. Planning to put it into chinese soup. And what's so disgusting about them? Especially if it comes from untzen? The water is so clear and clean!

Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 05, 2005, 03:51:30 PM
Don't judge the book by it's cover.
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Zaphod on July 05, 2005, 05:39:30 PM
I've eaten pikeminnows from Buntzen before -- not ashamed to admit it.  Extremely bony, but otherwise not too bad.  If there was a good way to de-bone these fish I'd see nothing wrong with them.  Maybe I'm unenlightened, but certainly not too picky. :)
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: IamCanadian on July 05, 2005, 07:23:05 PM
And I forgot to ask that if I plan to fish on the pier located at the right side of the lake, what do I catch? Same things but with more abundance? And would I use the same technique as before, such as using a float or just throwing a powerbait out? MY last question is, has anyone used one of those small floats by Anglers. They're called thills, and are yellow and orange. If u have, are they any good? Cause I should think they would work pretty darn good, for their prices.

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: Buntzen Lake
Post by: Hiker on July 05, 2005, 09:08:49 PM
OK, I have few of those in my fridge from last trip, still didn't try them, but I will. My 2c about very bony fish would be, get smaller ones and overcook them (best on bbq or frying pan). That way you can even eat smaller bones as they become britle and tasty :) - Though do not burn your fish.

Definitely do not judge the book by its cover. I ate many carp and ugly looking cat fish, which all tasted excellent.