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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: CohoJake on March 18, 2020, 11:22:15 AM
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Well, as the previously unthinkable continues to unfold, I have been starting to wonder about this. I guess I shouldn't say I'm worried, because fishing is a privilege and I am far more concerned about the health of those I love, including my younger sister who is a doctor in her residency. But here it is:
Fishing Charters on the Washington coast have been cancelled because ports are being shut down. The border has been closed to non-essential traffic. For the first time since 9/11, I am thinking there is a real possibility I won't be able to fish in BC this fall.
Salmon seasons are in the midst of being set, yet the season-setting process is dependent on a series of large meetings. Are those meeting being postponed or moved online? My local salmon habitat enhancement group has suspended meetings and work parties for the foreseeable future.
Will hatcheries continue to stock local lakes for spring trout fishing? How many of these jobs/activities will be deemed "non-essential" and suspended/delayed?
Everyone stay safe and healthy. I've made many friends on this board over the years (and on the river). I hope to see them again soon.
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--If Co's have to stay 6 ft away, how will they be able to check your license? Sorry , just being a Dick but couldn't resist.
--One would think rec fishing would be a good way to self-isolate and it could also produce needed food without going to a store.
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--If Co's have to stay 6 ft away, how will they be able to check your license? Sorry , just being a Dick but couldn't resist.
--One would think rec fishing would be a good way to self-isolate and it could also produce needed food without going to a store.
Both of those points do raise concerns for me though. The first being, are there going to be sufficient resources for enforcement of regulations? The second being, is there going to be an increase in poaching and people taking way more than their limit because they are desperate?
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I think of this extended time away from work to be a time to reinforce the "recreational" in angling. I want to try new waters. It's a good time to get out in the fresh air, away from others- unless, of course, we're still in a state of emergency in September and one likes to fish the Vedder Canal! ;)
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I'm still seeing canadians cross the border into the U.S to get their mail and fuel, so the definition of "essential travel" will be up each individual. That being said, the border is not really closed and you can see that they have staffing to run the lanes. I plan on going to fish since I know that people are crossing the border to get their mail and fuel. I have a license so I intend to use it. That being said, be safe.
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The closure of the border isn't in place as yet. It's expected to take place tomorrow.
I struggle with going fishing or not but there is no way it could be considered "essential travel". Having bought a license counts for zip and within 2 weeks all licenses expire.
The more people ignore the recommendation to avoid all but essential travel the more likely a near complete lock down will be imposed.
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We are so far down this rabbit hole that at this point it doesn't matter what restrictions are placed and what aren't.
If this goes on longer than about 3 months (which it probably will), we will all be learning a 'new normal' in so many aspects of life we won't know what is up or down.
This has been coming for a long time. I'm not going to argue whether this whole thing was orchestrated or not. Whether it was an accident or on purpose....neither would surprise me, but this sort of thing was always coming. Unless this gets nipped in the bud extremely quickly (which is unlikely), very little is going to be the same when we come out of it.
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We are so far down this rabbit hole that at this point it doesn't matter what restrictions are placed and what aren't.
If this goes on longer than about 3 months (which it probably will), we will all be learning a 'new normal' in so many aspects of life we won't know what is up or down.
This has been coming for a long time. I'm not going to argue whether this whole thing was orchestrated or not. Whether it was an accident or on purpose....neither would surprise me, but this sort of thing was always coming. Unless this gets nipped in the bud extremely quickly (which is unlikely), very little is going to be the same when we come out of it.
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It would be interesting to watch social distancing being applied on the gravel bars of the Fraser during sockeye season :)
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It would be interesting to watch social distancing being applied on the gravel bars of the Fraser during sockeye season :)
I dont think you will have to worry about that for many, many years, if at all.
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Here's an example of the kind of closures I'm concerned about, with scheduled razor clam digs on Washington's coast being cancelled because of the number of people that travel and congregate during these digs:
""WDFW is responsive to the needs of local communities, and we manage razor clams in consultation with our coastal communities to ensure sustainable harvest," said Larry Phillips, WDFW's coastal region director. "But, under these circumstances, we need to include more than sustainable harvest in our decision making and do what is the best for the community. We understand that the county health department is responding to a global pandemic and WDFW is cancelling these digs to support that work and keep folks healthy."
There was a lot of dialogue and a fairly long process to approve these digs in light of COVID-19 concerns, and it has been a rapidly evolving issue, he added. "Typically, we would want to provide much more notice before cancelling a razor clam dig," said Phillips.
Given the level of concern expressed in the communities, and the fact that some of the beaches open to razor clam digging fall within multiple counties, we also elected to close all currently open beaches to razor clam digging in order to provide consistency in approach, added Phillips."
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National parks are closed.
BC Parks are restricting access ( Sasquach is closed )
Soon all BC Parks will be locked. BC Hydro can do whatever they want so I assume launches will be closed with them soon if not already.
Next week is going to have a full scale lock down order put into place so nobody will be fishing. Except maybe FN communities of course.
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The best activity at this time is fishing.
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Did my part for social distancing by fishing the very low Harrison the other day. Not much activity but a stroll by Calamity produced an interesting haul. My buddy ang I picked up quite a few jigs and lures- even a double hook 4/0 mooching leader.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/187610121@N08/shares/2dtu49)
Can't get the picture to post. A few of the lures were keepers.
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National parks are closed.
BC Parks are restricting access ( Sasquach is closed )
Soon all BC Parks will be locked. BC Hydro can do whatever they want so I assume launches will be closed with them soon if not already.
Next week is going to have a full scale lock down order put into place so nobody will be fishing. Except maybe FN communities of course.
Curious what you know about the full scale lock down? I haven’t really heard anything of the sort. Wondering what exactly is coming down the pipe?
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I think its only a matter of days before we see a total shutdown of everything but essential services.
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Curious what you know about the full scale lock down?
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The Federal Health Minister apparently concurs:
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2020/03/21/trudeau-urges-canadians-to-avoid-travel-to-other-provinces.html
Some here understand a lot of my Family are Americans, and a great many of those are in their Military.
One of my cousins is high up in the US National Guard. He, and all of their members were called up to Active Duty as of yesterday.
Military leaves have been cancelled and most I know also received return to base marching orders.
The concerning note is that these folks were informed "This is a live ammunition exercise".
Real Lock down may be coming sooner for them than later methinks...
Trudeau and Blair are said to be discussing imposing the Emergency Measures Act.
I imagine the latter is rubbing his hands with glee at the thought.
If they do this, the entire country will be shut down and that enforced via police and military units.
Scary Times,
Nog - Under Medical Lockdown
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I can certainly understand what is going on. Hell I stocked up before most people did. We can be on lock down for 8 months. I do find it awfully confusing why they do not enforce current social distancing rules before they try to enforce a greater lockdown. It doesnt make sense. I stand a higher chance of getting the virus at the pharmacy or Save On Foods. I am not allowed to walk my dog ? Or go from my house to the boat launch in Mission ? It doesnt make any sense. Zero sense. When they institute a nation wide lock down order I'll be completely disappointed in out Federal government. Heck even the simultaneous package isnt nearly enough if you do the math. It's a joke. I've also heard it's been nearly impossible for those who have been laid off to get this phantom 6 month mortgage deferral they speak of.
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Superstore has only 1 out of 2 checkouts open. They are lined up around the perimeter of the store. Over an hour wait if you have a buggy full....and you won't be coming out with everything you were hoping to either.
Peaceful days grocery shopping in stores fully stocked is something hopefully we won't take for granted anymore.
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Trying to social distance but going to crowded grocery store & lineups defeats the purpose.
Possibly grocery stores can fill orders vis phone & deliver.
Or we phone in /email orders & we pick up at appt. time ...we do not even have to get out of vehicle.
Have grocery wkrs wear masks & have them checked (swab.) to make sure they are not sick ( some have barely any symptoms ).
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Possibly grocery stores can fill orders vis phone & deliver.
Some people are saying their orders are as much as 10 days away right now. That doesn't work for a little old lady in her apartment.
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Have grocery wkrs wear masks & have them checked (swab.) to make sure they are not sick ( some have barely any symptoms ).
The CV doesn't work that way. If it was as simple as a swab, then more people would be getting tested and results wouldn't take days to get back.
There are perfectly healthy people carrying the virus that would need to be tested every day before they go to work at the grocery store. Not realistic.
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It appears the liberals were forced to abandon their insane plot to grant them dictatorial powers by opposition members:
National coronavirus update, March 24: Parliament suspends emergency session
It appears that the government is continuing to negotiate details of the legislation with opposition parties after the Conservatives balked at a provision that would have given the government sweeping powers to unilaterally spend, borrow and change taxation levels without the approval of Parliament.
https://www.mapleridgenews.com/news/national-coronavirus-update-march-24-parliament-suspends-emergency-session/
Nog
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It appears the liberals were forced to abandon their insane plot to grant them dictatorial powers by opposition members:
OOPS! Not So Fast!
They pulled the "most offending" clause, but left in others that do much the same thing:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-pull-one-controversial-tax-and-spend-measure-from-emergency/
It appears "negotiations" are still underway as they have yet to recall...
Stay Tuned...
Nog
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The CV doesn't work that way. If it was as simple as a swab, then more people would be getting tested and results wouldn't take days to get back.
There are perfectly healthy people carrying the virus that would need to be tested every day before they go to work at the grocery store. Not realistic.
Say a wkr wearing mask has the virus but not showing symptoms & he's loading up the car with bags of food the customer ordered. Though he's positive with virus it does not mean he will transfer it to every person he comes close to. But if wkrs get swabbed & even if it takes days to get results at least he can be taken off the job & get isolated. All wkrs in the food stores dealing with public should be tested on going. Think it's realistic.
No use having a system of pick up groceries & have virus infected wkrs loading your car/SUV ...
No system is perfect but it's about control & stopping /slowing the big spread....curve....
But to have people in the food store running around & grabbing basket handles or cart handle is Russian roulette.
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To get back on topic - FYI - Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife has announced they are closing all state parks, wildlife access areas & boat launches, but they still insist that fishing is still "open" - they just want to discourage people from traveling to do it. US National parks have started to close as well, with roads being gated off. It isn't too much of a leap to expect they are also going to close certain "popular" fisheries to prevent large crowds of people from congregating.
How busy do the trout lakes get around Vancouver and up the valley? Busy enough that the Freshwater Fisheries Society would stop stocking to slow things down a bit? Or maybe stocking isn't "essential" anyway.
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Took a drive up the Chiliwack River. Tamahi and Thurston campgrounds are now closed. Not many people around. Saw about 6 cars parked at the prison run. Hopefully they are fishing 6 feet apart.
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Say a wkr wearing mask has the virus but not showing symptoms & he's loading up the car with bags of food the customer ordered. Though he's positive with virus it does not mean he will transfer it to every person he comes close to. But if wkrs get swabbed & even if it takes days to get results at least he can be taken off the job & get isolated. All wkrs in the food stores dealing with public should be tested on going. Think it's realistic.
No use having a system of pick up groceries & have virus infected wkrs loading your car/SUV ...
No system is perfect but it's about control & stopping /slowing the big spread....curve....
But to have people in the food store running around & grabbing basket handles or cart handle is Russian roulette.
there is a critical shortage of test kits. The samples have to be sent to a lab so testing everyone who works in a grocery stores isn't practical. Personally I'd worry more about other customers as employees are already briefed on protocols and know not to report to work if they match risk criteria - ie they have returned from outside Canada, had contact with a person who has been, has the virus or if they have a fever. While it's possible the virus can be spread from droplets or mist in the air this is the least likely means of transmission. People need to keep the recommended distances from each other. Some stores are installing shields between the cashier and the customer. Only go shopping when needed.
All those steps will reduce the already low risk of contracting the virus.
CohoJake - early in the discussion I said people who have to travel an appreciable distance - ie they have to drive more than a few minutes should sensibly refrain from fishing.
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Took a drive up the Chiliwack River. Tamahi and Thurston campgrounds are now closed. Not many people around. Saw about 6 cars parked at the prison run. Hopefully they are fishing 6 feet apart.
Must be harder to transfer being in the fresh outdrs than being inside a building.
Ralphy old boy ya do not have to test every wkr.
You only test wkrs that load the groceries at pickup spot outside the store. 3 wkrs 7am to 3pm & 3 other wkrs 3pm to 11pm. 3 wkrs a shift. Two guys load up groceries into car/SUV/pickup & the other 3rd wkr gets payment from customer.
6 wkrs is not a lot of wkrs to test ...plus a few more weekend shift.
Say 12 wkrs total per store that is in charge loading up groceries.
But the whole idea is to get crowds out of the store buying food & thus failing social distancing.
A chain is as strong as it's weakest link.
Social distancing & isolate in one's home is defeated by shopping in a crowded food store.
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Random testing is next to useless without serious containment and quarantine measures. This means that everyone who tests positive must be put into REAL quarantine, and everyone who they had contact with must be tested and quarantined until their results are back. Anything less will slightly slow the transmission rate, but the end result will be equally tragic.
Yes, everyone should only fish if it is close. But at a certain point, even that can get too crowded.
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You only test wkrs that load the groceries at pickup spot outside the store. 3 wkrs 7am to 3pm & 3 other wkrs 3pm to 11pm. 3 wkrs a shift. Two guys load up groceries into car/SUV/pickup & the other 3rd wkr gets payment from customer.
6 wkrs is not a lot of wkrs to test ...plus a few more weekend shift.
Say 12 wkrs total per store that is in charge loading up groceries.
But the whole idea is to get crowds out of the store buying food & thus failing social distancing.
A chain is as strong as it's weakest link.
Social distancing & isolate in one's home is defeated by shopping in a crowded food store.
What about the clerk who picks up the groceries from the shelves ?
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What about the clerk who picks up the groceries from the shelves ?
I only worry about those 3-4 feet of me. ( pick up order customers do not enter the store ever )
So my concern right off is those loading my food in my SUV that I ordered via phone or www .
The worker inside the store I could care less or the wkrs across the oceans.
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Launches are closing all over the lower wasteland. Kawkawa closed, Stave Lake closed. I guess the government thinks you can spread and receive COVID 19 on a lake and not at Lowes when you stimulate the economy by buying hardware supplies.
STAY HOME ! they say. It's ok to go for a walk and go to the grocery store or share the same porta potty on a construction site with over 100 men who dont wash their hands. Just dont be alone in a lake cause that's bad.
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Must be harder to transfer being in the fresh outdrs than being inside a building.
Ralphy old boy ya do not have to test every wkr.
You only test wkrs that load the groceries at pickup spot outside the store. 3 wkrs 7am to 3pm & 3 other wkrs 3pm to 11pm. 3 wkrs a shift. Two guys load up groceries into car/SUV/pickup & the other 3rd wkr gets payment from customer.
6 wkrs is not a lot of wkrs to test ...plus a few more weekend shift.
Say 12 wkrs total per store that is in charge loading up groceries.
But the whole idea is to get crowds out of the store buying food & thus failing social distancing.
A chain is as strong as it's weakest link.
Social distancing & isolate in one's home is defeated by shopping in a crowded food store.
I think you need to look into things before you come with a solution. Test kits are in short supply. They are running out of them in the states where the outbreak is far more serious. As of right now the tests are done in a lab and that takes 24 hours.
Forced testing of even some people who otherwise don't have the disease puts other people at risk with little or know probable payoff.
Perhaps you should watch but most workers in a supermarket have to touch the goods. They are touched by employees 2 or even 3 times minimum.
I know I am repeating what I wrote previously but it appears you neither read or understood it the first time around.
People also need to know that for every recognized positive case acknowledged in the news there are likely 10 or more out in the community that are diagnosed and unrecorded. Quarantine only works when there are limited cases and the carriers are known.
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Launches are closing all over the lower wasteland. Kawkawa closed, Stave Lake closed. I guess the government thinks you can spread and receive COVID 19 on a lake and not at Lowes when you stimulate the economy by buying hardware supplies.
Kilby is closed too.
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Cultas closed as well.
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Just saw on Fred’s website. The chilliwack store is temporarily closed now due to Covid-19.
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Boat launch at foot of Sunnyside boulevard at Cultus is still open.
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CohoJake - early in the discussion I said people who have to travel an appreciable distance - ie they have to drive more than a few minutes should sensibly refrain from fishing.
I don’t understand this. Nothing from the BC CDC preventative recommendations suggests that travelling an appreciable distance is risky and should be refrained from. http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/about-covid-19/prevention
Provided you maintain social distance and practice the recommended hygiene measures, driving alone in your vehicle to fish by yourself is not ill advised.
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I think you need to look into things before you come with a solution. Test kits are in short supply. They are running out of them in the states where the outbreak is far more serious. As of right now the tests are done in a lab and that takes 24 hours.
Forced testing of even some people who otherwise don't have the disease puts other people at risk with little or know probable payoff.
Perhaps you should watch but most workers in a supermarket have to touch the goods. They are touched by employees 2 or even 3 times minimum.
I know I am repeating what I wrote previously but it appears you neither read or understood it the first time around.
People also need to know that for every recognized positive case acknowledged in the news there are likely 10 or more out in the community that are diagnosed and unrecorded. Quarantine only works when there are limited cases and the carriers are known.
RalphH ok Let's forget about about testing anyone. According to you as it is now it's impractical to test 12 workers who load pick up groceries.
Then will not argue with you.
My main point was the gov. wants schools closed....no sporting events....no walking on a White Rock pier, barber shop closed,play grounds closed, so forth but they say it's ok to go shopping in a big grocery store...full of people & workers & line up...hands on cart handles....hands grabbing those shopping baskets...
Even as Fish n hike stated grocery stores, ports potty ....
So on one hand the gov says isolate....but then it's ok to shop in crowded grocery stores...
So that's why we should just phone in our order & get it delivered to our door or we pick up the order outside the store.
This way we shoppers come into contact with less people ...as opposed going into a crowded store.
Being around a big crowd in a grocery store is not my idea of isolating which the gov. says is the only way to stop spreading this virus.
If you want to go into a crowded store...all the best.
I 'd rather phone in my order & pick it up outside the store. I want better odds of not catching it.
Going into the store is like a commercial net behind a boat.....picking up the groceries outside the store is like trolling one line behind the boat.
In other words going into a crowded store is like a commercial net to catch the virus & pickup is like a single line catching a virus ... ;D
Anyways hope you & other ladies & gentlemen girls & boys & teens & you old seniors ( hey that's me) stay healthy.
When I go into a crowded store it feels like I'm a zebra crossing a croc infested river. :(
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Boat launch at foot of Sunnyside boulevard at Cultus is still open.
Where is this? The only two launches I know of at Cultas have closed gates.
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Launches are closing all over the lower wasteland. Kawkawa closed, Stave Lake closed. I guess the government thinks you can spread and receive COVID 19 on a lake and not at Lowes when you stimulate the economy by buying hardware supplies.
STAY HOME ! they say. It's ok to go for a walk and go to the grocery store or share the same porta potty on a construction site with over 100 men who dont wash their hands. Just dont be alone in a lake cause that's bad.
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Yeah, also don't get the "don't travel long distances" thought. If you life in high rise apartment, even staying at home and only shopping for groceries when needed seems risky with all those people around Better wear gloves before touching anything outside your apartment because who knows who coughed on or touched that door handle to get outside. Driving an hour to a lake where you are by yourself... where is the risk in that?
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In fact Missouri agrees.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-waive-fishing-permit-coronavirus (https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-waive-fishing-permit-coronavirus)
“Missouri’s rivers and streams offer high-quality fishing as a way for people to connect with nature while still complying with all health and safety recommendations,” MDC Director Sara Parker Pauley said in a statement on the department's website. “Fishing is also a great way to get some much-needed physical and mental health benefits during this stressful time.”
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If you use common sense and stay away from other people and parks, I don’t see why you can’t get fresh air and cast a rod, what’s the difference then going for walk?
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Grant Narrows Launch at Pitt Lake closed yesterday because of concerns regarding the scores of walkers using the portapotties on the weekend.
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I don’t understand this. Nothing from the BC CDC preventative recommendations suggests that travelling an appreciable distance is risky and should be refrained from. http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/about-covid-19/prevention
Provided you maintain social distance and practice the recommended hygiene measures, driving alone in your vehicle to fish by yourself is not ill advised.
Every daily briefing from Senior Health officials and Elected officials across the country advise against unnecessary travel. Some Provinces have closed their borders and won't admit people from out of Province to enter for reasons deemed non-essential. They follow this up to stay home and exercise in your neighborhood.
I just watched Dr Teresa Tam of Health Canada give this advice in a public service commercial for about the 10th time in the last 2 days:
Tam advises everyone to avoid crowded places, avoid non-essential travel and stay home as much as possible; and, if they may have been exposed to COVID-19, to self-isolate.
see:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/feds-launch-ad-campaign-urging-social-distancing-hygiene-during-covid-19-crisis-1.4863845 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/feds-launch-ad-campaign-urging-social-distancing-hygiene-during-covid-19-crisis-1.4863845)
Can it be any clearer?
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My wife's company has an outlet in Connecticut and she has seen a similar announcement from that state as from Missouri. You have to weigh that advice (and shake your head) when considering the Covid-19 situation in the US is surging out of control and some say the US will soon be the epicentre of the pandemic.
Believe me, I'd love an excuse to go fishing.
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And now it is official in Washington - Fishing and Shellfishing is closed for at least 2 weeks: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-closes-recreational-fishing-statewide-wake-governors-order-stay-home-stay-healthy (https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-closes-recreational-fishing-statewide-wake-governors-order-stay-home-stay-healthy)
WDFW closes recreational fishing statewide in wake of governor’s order to ‘Stay Home, Stay Healthy’ in response to COVID-19
Date
Mar 25, 2020
Contact
Kelly Cunningham, 360-902-2325
Public Affairs contact: Ben Anderson, 360-480-4465
OLYMPIA – The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) today announced its decision to temporarily close recreational fishing and shellfishing statewide in the wake of Washington Gov. Jay Inslee’s order directing Washingtonians to stay home and stay healthy to limit the spread of coronavirus/COVID-19.
The closures will begin at midnight Wednesday, March 25 and last until at least 5 p.m. on April 8, 2020. WDFW will re-evaluate on April 6 whether the closure may need to be extended.
“This is not a decision we take lightly, but it’s the right thing to do for the health and well-being of Washington’s families,” said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. “Monday’s extraordinary order for the residents of our state to stay home requires all of us to work together to ensure these measures have the intended effect.”
Fishery managers have reported that some anglers have been seen crowding banks as concerns over coronavirus have continued.
“We’ve seen an uptick in outdoor recreation at some locations in recent weeks as people have looked for ways to get outside,” said WDFW Fish Program Director Kelly Cunningham. “We’ve had reports of crowded boat ramps and busy fishing on some rivers, which runs counter to the governor’s direction to stay home and practice social distancing.”
In addition, many salmon and steelhead fisheries require regular monitoring under the Endangered Species Act (ESA), which includes conducting angler interviews at access sites surrounding the state’s marine waters. The on-site, face-to-face nature of angler interviews puts people at potential risk of transmitting the coronavirus. Without such monitoring, these recreational fisheries must close to ensure ESA protections.
WDFW and other state agencies previously closed all of their water access sites, including boat launches, and other public lands where people may gather. Local and tribal governments are taking similar actions across Washington.
WDFW Enforcement officers remain on duty and will be enforcing these new closures.
The lowland lakes opening day for trout remains scheduled for April 25, but will be evaluated depending on whether the governor’s “Stay Home, Stay Healthy” order might be further extended.
For the latest updates on WDFW’s coronavirus response, please visit https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/covid-19-updates. Updates to openings and closures will be posted to that page. For the latest information on the statewide response to this pandemic, visit https://coronavirus.wa.gov/.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is the state agency tasked with preserving, protecting, and perpetuating fish, wildlife, and ecosystems, while providing sustainable fishing, hunting, and other recreation opportunities.
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Where is this? The only two launches I know of at Cultas have closed gates.
At the boat rental marina. Was still open a couple days ago ?
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And now it is official in Washington - Fishing and Shellfishing is closed for at least 2 weeks
Brutal. I hope it's not a sign of things to come here. I've been doing regular fishing in quiet, waders-only spots in some urban creeks/rivers. No danger of germs out there and it's helping me stay sane 8)
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Brutal. I hope it's not a sign of things to come here. I've been doing regular fishing in quiet, waders-only spots in some urban creeks/rivers. No danger of germs out there and it's helping me stay sane 8)
I think the problem is there's no way to close down just the busy fisheries. If you close the most popular rivers/lakes, people will shift to the less popular spots. They go where it's open. And I get it. I would drive 6+ hours to fish for salmon, and maybe 2 hours for lake fishing. If that's true for many other anglers then the only way to prevent crowds is a blanket closure.
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Can it be any clearer?
Yes, it could be.
The Public Heath Canada website says to avoid all non-essential travel. On another linked page it says that this is a level 3 warning and further explains "The Public Health Agency of Canada is recommending that travellers avoid all non-essential travel outside of Canada."
On the BC CDC website, the list of prevention activities to prevent community transmission does not speak about limiting local travel. It speaks about handwashing, not touching your face, wiping down surfaces, wearing a mask if you are ill but nothing about travel. Travel is addressed on a separate page but it says "British Columbians and Canadians should avoid all non-essential travel outside of Canada, including to the United States."
I can find nothing in writing from these primary sources that domestic/local non-essential travel should be refrained from.
Not trying to be contrary Ralph, just trying to do my best to be respectful of the direction of health authorities and to protect myself, my fam and my community. Having said that, I went solo fishing for ct on Monday and would do so again until a shelter in place order is established. IMHO that doesn't violate any recommendations from any federal or provincial health bodies.
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Did you watch Horgan and Farnworth's press conference this am? Horgan said (and I paraphrase) stay home means stay home. It doesn't mean you can make a trip to the Okanagan from Vancouver. Both Drs Henry and Tam have described the subtleties around this issue. There is room for subjective interpretations here, but the lack of written direction does not mean unlimited travel for less than essential reasons meet the spirit of the state of emergency.
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I just dont understand why people are scewing the rules. It's clear as mud on a provincial level. Stay at home ! It's ok to go for walks just social distance. This is what they say. That's it that's all. It's clear as cupcakes that they dont want you on a boat.
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I just dont understand why people are scewing the rules. It's clear as mud on a provincial level. Stay at home ! It's ok to go for walks just social distance. This is what they say. That's it that's all. It's clear as cupcakes that they dont want you on a boat.
There is another unstated reason that people often overlook: Safety issues. If we stay home, we don't get into auto accidents, don't fall and break our ankles on the rip-rap, don't fall out of our boats and nearly drown. We are reducing the burden on the existing medical infrastructure. Less people in hospital beds and emergency rooms for all reasons is a big help in this fight.
I learned a great deal about the death rate when I had a funeral home for a client. There are generally two seasonal spikes in the death rate (so you can imagine a corresponding spike in hospital visits). One is in the winter, from illness. The other is when nice weather returns, from people doing risky things outdoors.
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What is a public health emergency and what does it mean for B.C.?
Dr. Bonnie Henry now has power to issue verbal orders that are immediately enforceable
In practical terms, the declaration under the Public Health Act gives the provincial health officer the power to issue verbal orders that are immediately enforceable. An example would be Tuesday's order for venues such as bars and clubs to shut down across the province.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/public-health-emergency-bc-explained-1.5501414
so much for having it in writing.
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There is another unstated reason that people often overlook: Safety issues. If we stay home, we don't get into auto accidents, don't fall and break our ankles on the rip-rap, don't fall out of our boats and nearly drown. We are reducing the burden on the existing medical infrastructure. Less people in hospital beds and emergency rooms for all reasons is a big help in this fight.
I learned a great deal about the death rate when I had a funeral home for a client. There are generally two seasonal spikes in the death rate (so you can imagine a corresponding spike in hospital visits). One is in the winter, from illness. The other is when nice weather returns, from people doing risky things outdoors.
BINGO!
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I will say that I have come to re-evaluate some of my bad habits that I never gave a second though to before.
Like coming home from fishing when I use my hands to operated the gas pump, use my hands to open the door of the gas station, then to open the door of the cooler for a Coke, then proceed to enjoy the drive home eating a delicious bag of chips with unwashed hands. And yes, even licking my fingers to get every last crumb of seasoned goodness.
Never really gave that behaviour a second thought...until recently.
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I will say that I have come to re-evaluate some of my bad habits that I never gave a second though to before.
Like coming home from fishing when I use my hands to operated the gas pump, use my hands to open the door of the gas station, then to open the door of the cooler for a Coke, then proceed to enjoy the drive home eating a delicious bag of chips with unwashed hands. And yes, even licking my fingers to get every last crumb of seasoned goodness.
Never really gave that behaviour a second thought...until recently.
I'll never learn, still every season I eat chips or something on the drive home and lick my fingers before I remember I have been fishing with roe all day. :o
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Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Drastically Revises Model
Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson, who created the highly-cited Imperial College London coronavirus model, which has been cited by organizations like The New York Times and has been instrumental in governmental policy decision-making, offered a massive revision to his model on Wednesday.
Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve.
However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson is presenting drastically downgraded estimates, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday.
Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/epidemiologist-behind-highly-cited-coronavirus-model-admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model
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From a fellow on SFBC (with permission):
Going to jump in here and clear up a few things. My first degree is in Biochemistry / Microbiology; my wife wrote her masters in Virology (in a lab that contributed to sequencing the SARS genome) and has worked in public health, research institutions including level 3 biosafety laboratories, and big pharma. I'm not pretending to be an expert in coronavirus or COVID-19, but there is some basic stuff that I think people should understand about what we are facing in order to make better decisions - and just stay sane.
The paper does not say that SARS-CoV-2 (CoV) remains infectious for up to 17 day on surfaces. The "What is added by this report" states: "...Transmission occurred across multiple voyages from ship to ship by crew members; both crew members and passengers were affected..." - that's the key takeaway. What they found was RNA on untreated surfaces. RNA is the genetic material for the CoV virus and frankly it is not surprising that it would be found. This does not mean that there is viable virus present capable of causing infection. It is analogous to finding a suspect's DNA at a crime scene - doesn't mean they are still there in the room ready to commit another crime. The RNA by itself is not capable of causing infection.
(Also, virus don't "live" anywhere and you don't "kill" them. They are not living organism in that they cannot reproduce on their own. They have to highjack another cell's machinery in order to reproduce. Referring to them as living is like calling whales fish, although whales and fish (or whales and bacteria for that matter) have more in common with each other than viruses to even the most basic single celled organism.)
The reports of the virus being infectious on different surfaces for up to three days are misleading if not fully understood. Yes, they have been able to find - under laboratory conditions - viable virus after several days, but most virus particles that were placed on the surfaces have broken down and are no longer infectious. It is not clear even if the number of virus that were placed on the surface are is comparable to what would be found naturally (i.e. someone coughing in their hand and touching a handle), or if the number of viable virus at the end of the time periods they are quoting would be sufficient to cause infection. No need to leave your groceries sitting for several days when you get home. Put them away and wash your hands after.
Don't try using your Instant Pot (or similar) "sterilization" cycle and think you are in the clear - it doesn't generate sufficient pressure to properly sterilize items (an old school pressure cooker will reach sufficient pressure). A medical autoclave also displaces the air in the chamber with steam to achieve proper sterilization. The best way to clean items you are concerned about is to wash with either soap and water, a solution with at least 70% ethanol, or a bleach solution (not full strength). And the best way to avoid being infected is to wash your hands with soap (doesn't have to be "anti-bacterial"), practice social distancing, wash your hands, don't touch your face, and wash your hands. Hand sanitizer is ok if needed, but washing your hands properly is better. Gloves and face masks can actually increase your risk of getting infected if you haven't been trained in their use and don't practice proper techniques in donning and removing, and they can create bad habits through instilling a false sense of security.
Remember that "flattening the curve" means spreading out the period of the outbreak - it doesn't mean eliminating the chance of getting sick. The way things are going with the virus firmly established in the population, there's a good probability that things won't return to normal until 70%+ of the population has had it and herd immunity is developed. The goal with flattening the curve is not to overload the health care system at one time in order than the system can keep things manageable. So be prepared that the changes you make to your daily habits are going to be with your for a while - months if not longer - so they should be things that are easy to live with. Again washing your hands, social distancing and not touching your face are the most important things you can do; trying to go above and beyond with elaborate systems is going to produce diminishing or potentially even negative returns and could be untenable. And if you get sick, self isolate; it is way easier to avoid spreading the disease than it is to avoid catching it.
And think critically and look for a second opinions on anything you read and have questions about by sticking the proper authorities - Health Canada, WHO, CDC, etc. What we are going through is unprecedented and everyone is looking for answers that in a lot of cases are just not there (vaccines, miracle drugs, ibuprofen makes it worse, etc.) which creates the perfect situation for misinformation to spread. Fortunately for the vast majority of people a case of COVID-19 will be relatively mild and we are not dealing with something more virulent. Stay safe, stay healthy and stay sane.
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I'll never learn, still every season I eat chips or something on the drive home and lick my fingers before I remember I have been fishing with roe all day. :o
clarki & CohoJake ....ya we all can be guilty of doing that.
Our eyes just cannot see what is crawling micro size everywhere...dust mites germs viruses (bedbugs /fleas/ wood ticks /crabs/lice) ..even if one's eye's are not 20/20.
Even Mr Magoo seeing a stand up coat hanger said. " How do you do madam "
Yes wash your hands wash your hands wash your hands...
Eating potato chips driving home & licking fingers can & may KILL YOU.
Washing my hands at lest 20x a day.
One guy said conserve toilet paper so he suggested you use both sides so it will last 2x longer :o
If that advice was followed ...wash hands 500x daily.
What's his name? Comedy guy. Think he's a Canadian. He's known to have extra fear of germs.
He's on those shows (judge) America Got Talent ...
Seen a picture of him ( oh ya Howie Mandell ) the other day & he looked like he was in a NASA space suit.
But wow NYC is a hot bed for the virus now. Europe 1000's dying daily.
Wonder how Mrs. Trudeau is doing?
Weird how some get it & get light symptoms & others get very sick & die quickly. Young or old.
Depends how strong our system is ( how healthy we are to fight it. )
Wash hands but also eat healthy & get zzzzzz.
Do not get angry....people who blow their top get so stressed out...blood pressure etc...breathing heavy...raw raw raw ...they set themselves up to get very ill should they pick up a virus.
As that song goes" Don't worry ..be happy "
To relax go to youtube & listen to Orange Blossom Special vids...violins etc...Walbash Cannon Ball ...or that banjo battle /or banjo and guitar battle...the one scene in that movie Deliverance.
Yes it seems more logical now or clearer to why driving to lake or river is a no no in these times.
By the way is this all just a bad dream or my imagination?
It all just seems this is not possible.
Only 4 weeks ago there were not so many cases & now ...
Scary part is we have to wonder " will we get it ? "
And the other ..."is this going to get worse & worse & last over a year?"
Will super marts keep open should this go on for a long duration?
If all stores close then home invasion robbery crime murder etc...we all will need a weapon to protect our homes & family.
Just saying.
Let 's hope & pray everything turns around soon.
I see Nog has posted as I'm typing this up so......ya all got lots of reading to do.
Miss fishing ...watch Rod's fishing vids.
Miss sports...watch sports on youtube.
Canucks win everytime over the Leafs are the vids I 'm watching. ;D
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http://deathmeters.info/ "Top 20 death causes in the World 2020 live"
Strange....Covid-19 isn't even on this list...the numbers aren't even a fraction of what's on that list....and yet we're about to let it destroy the economy and perhaps usher in martial law.
We should be careful and sensible of course right now, but the fear mongering is beyond out of control.
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http://deathmeters.info/ "Top 20 death causes in the World 2020 live"
Strange....Covid-19 isn't even on this list...the numbers aren't even a fraction of what's on that list....and yet we're about to let it destroy the economy and perhaps usher in martial law.
We should be careful and sensible of course right now, but the fear mongering is beyond out of control.
Well let nature take it's course but it's the unknown of the future...sure "tons" die everyday by heart attack cancer crime accidents ...but heart attack ...diabetic ...cancer....generally speaking people have lived a few yrs....40's 60's 80's yr old ....but a virus.....it's like the lottery...win or lose...odds to get it change...ask NYC & Europe right now if they have any reason to be overly concerned.
More people are dying from it in the world daily that possibly surpasses 9-11.
And the 1918 Spanish flu 18 months took out a mere 50-100 million people.
But what gets me is where did this virus start? Was it really from that wet market in Wuhan?
Some say yes others no. Talking to one guy who thought it did come from the wet market...because of all the reptiles dogs cats bats snakes lizards etc they kill live on the chopping block and he thinks those chopping blocks never get properly sanitized ..thus blood guts scales ...maybe some soapy water splashed on the chopping block but next day the whole process starts again.
If the virus did start from there then hopefully these places get shut down..
Or will these markets just go underground. & in time another virus starts up.
But who knows really where this virus started...just muted on it's own from another already virus possibly.
One thing is it's not good to fear ...but as Nog 's insight's in his recent posts...this is not a thing to sneeze at or take lightly. As he says we have to try everything to try not to get it. Hand washing & isolation & keeping our distance from others when in public places. (Nog excellent insights)
I've had in the past mono, hep B, flu, heart attack ( when getting out of hospital felt so dizzy/weak thought I'd never ride my pedal bike again...hep B they told me not to eat starchy food..liver sick so starchy food will be very hard to digest. Oh great had French fries the day before...it felt like a brick in my intestines for 3 weeks. No stranger to being major sick.
So being sick which we all have been is just no no fun.
Today while shopping for food heard from across the store a really bad cough by someone.
Thought oh good it's far away across the store.
But then thought oh no I have to go over that direction to go to cashiers :o
Lots of people walking around with masks...
Just hope BC does not get like NYC or Italy or Spain or France etc...then it will be FEARFUL.
Italy the coffin business is doing well. Think they do not burn bodies in that country.
100s of coffins daily being moved by trucks with the freshly dead.
But those on the front lines medical store wkrs care aids etc...are heros at this time.
Is it 7 pm and people bang pots / make noise to express people's thank you ? ( for their service )
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-trump-border-coronavirus-1.5510853
US Troops To The Canada / US Border.
WTF next?
Spooky,
Nog
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perhaps that's yer live fire exercise? Pot shots at Canucks to boost Trump's re-election chances?
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perhaps that's yer live fire exercise? Pot shots at Canucks to boost Trump's re-election chances?
Nope. Try again Ralphie ol' chap...
It's out there. You should be able to discover what the gist of that particular matter was...
Cheers,
Nog
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perhaps that's yer live fire exercise? Pot shots at Canucks to boost Trump's re-election chances?
LOL. Good one Ralph.
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Well let nature take it's course but it's the unknown of the future...sure "tons" die everyday by heart attack cancer crime accidents ...but heart attack ...diabetic ...cancer....generally speaking people have lived a few yrs....40's 60's 80's yr old ....but a virus.....it's like the lottery...win or lose...odds to get it change...ask NYC & Europe right now if they have any reason to be overly concerned.
More people are dying from it in the world daily that possibly surpasses 9-11.
And the 1918 Spanish flu 18 months took out a mere 50-100 million people.
Let me be clear on something. I am not of the mentality of sacrifice some so the economy can thrive. I know that is going on with some right now, but that's not what I meant...nor do I think that is moral....although real life does sometimes present situations where not all can be saved and tough decisions must be made.
It's just that it has become obvious that there are certain groups (*cough* progressive democratic left wing woke crowd) who want Trump to lose the election soooo badly, that they want the current pandemic to last long enough up until the election so they can blame everything on him....and then have him lose the election.
The result as has been the case so far is extreme fear mongering. If you watch Trump's press conferences, he has scientists and other experts up there with him on the podium who agree with him that certain people are trying their best to bring more fear than is needed to the general population. These experts have said publicly that the fear mongering needs to stop.
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Trump is an idiot. Nobody except his supporters truly believe that Canada is sending illegal migrants to the US during this health crisis. Nothing more than a divisionary tactic to draw attention from the way he's managed the pandemic.
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Democrats have been on attack against Trump from the 1st day of his office.
90% of the news media are against Trump
90% of Hollywood is against Trump
90% of news TV & print are against Trump
90% of tv talk day & evening are against Trump
Still somehow Trump was elected...and the voting powers in the coming election is anyone 's guess on who will win.
Me if I were an American definitely would be a Republican.
Make America great again.
Republicans line up more with my personal faith.
But that's what voting is all about.
Power in a single vote.
But with this virus people should unite & leave political gain out of it.
This virus will kill both democrats & republicans.
As for Trump ...he's far from perfect.
He is so under attack I think he gets defensive & reacts too quickly.
So yes FA Trump does put his foot in his mouth.
Mind you I would not want his job. N Korea threatening to launch nukes...
China Russia Middle East Iran Turkey Syria Libya ...problem after problem.
The rich Chinese businessman who criticized the China leader....over the Covid 19 crisis ..is now missing.
In the USA & Canada we can criticize our Pres or PM & still go to sleep in our own bed.
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Me if I were an American definitely would be a Republican.
Make America great again.
Republicans line up more with my personal faith.
So much for the separation of Church and State.
But then it's bad that certain segments of the US line up against Trump but is ok for the Prosperity Gospel Mammonites to line up with Trump.
Was chatting with the neighbor yesterday. His Brother married a US Citizen and they live in Arizona. She went to the same church all her life but in 2016 the Chaplain told the congregation they must vote for Trump to be good "Christians". She walked out right then and there and never went back.
Trump is about as Christian as a snail.
My wife has relations in the states. They can't believe what's happened there since 2016 and most who were Republicans can't believe what has happened to the Republican party in the last 20 to 30 years.
Trump doesn't need an extended Covid-19 outbreak to lose. His unbelievably incompetent behavior will do it for him. He can't even crack a 50% approval rating in the biggest National crisis in over 10 years.
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......90% of the facts truth and reality are against trump.....
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......90% of the facts truth and reality are against trump.....
You really should stop listening to CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CBC, CTV, etc.....and also stop reading the NY Times and Washington Post...among many others. Then perhaps you'll have enough unbiased information to make an educated opinion on the matter. Listening to only the progressive woke sources doesn't do anyone any good.
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So much for the separation of Church and State.
Was chatting with the neighbor yesterday. His Brother married a US Citizen and they live in Arizona. She went to the same church all her life but in 2016 the Chaplain told the congregation they must vote for Trump to be good "Christians". She walked out right then and there and never went back.
As a Christian myself, I don't agree that a pastor should tell or preach, or try to manipulate who Christians should vote for. Anyone who is a devout Christian already knows you don't vote for Killary Clinton or anyone else on the baby murdering progressive left...so what the pastor said was actually quite redundant.
Trump is about as Christian as a snail.
Whether or not that is true....I'd like to know what information God gave you that gives you the inside knowledge to another man's soul. Please enlighten me.
Again as for the pastor saying to vote for Trump....what he should have said was to not vote for Killary Clinton. She is the devil incarnate. Christians are not to support the devil.
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So, yes, CohoJake. This current health crisis could very well affect fishing opportunities! :)
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So much for the separation of Church and State.
But then it's bad that certain segments of the US line up against Trump but is ok for the Prosperity Gospel Mammonites to line up with Trump.
Was chatting with the neighbor yesterday. His Brother married a US Citizen and they live in Arizona. She went to the same church all her life but in 2016 the Chaplain told the congregation they must vote for Trump to be good "Christians". She walked out right then and there and never went back.
Trump is about as Christian as a snail.
My wife has relations in the states. They can't believe what's happened there since 2016 and most who were Republicans can't believe what has happened to the Republican party in the last 20 to 30 years.
Trump doesn't need an extended Covid-19 outbreak to lose. His unbelievably incompetent behavior will do it for him. He can't even crack a 50% approval rating in the biggest National crisis in over 10 years.
Many preachers I see praying with Pres. Trump do have churches with big congregations.
But these churches have big out reaches ...in the inner cities helping the poor ..digging water wells in places where people have to walk miles & drink from filthy water..
One preacher Rev Jeffries (think his name is) wonderful pastor.
What I'm saying is a big population in the USA are believers in God & they must vote.
It's a right in a democratic country. Freedom.
1) totally agree with you RalphH a pastor should not command his congregation who to vote for.
Ok to show which party goes more with scripture & which party goes against scripture & then let the people decide who to vote for.
That's why I'd be a republican if I were an American.
Abortion at the end of 9 months term & other things the democrats push for ....they would not get my vote.
2) pastors like Rev Copeland & some like him get millions in donations or sales from books etc...& they get rich ...and spend a big % on themselves is super wrong.
The guy is a pilot also and has a collection of airplanes he flys. Hobby like a fishermen collects fishing rods.
I would not send the guy a dollar.
Some Christian organizations bring in millions & millions yearly in donations but they in the ministries dish the $$$ out...orphanages around the world...bringing medical services to the very poor...bringing emergency help after some crisis....so on.
But the greedy preacher who puts too much $$$ in his own pockets....is one of the worst examples.
Scams in everyday life are out there so think twice before ya give to charities or give a donation.
Since you commented thought I 'd respond.
This unseen enemy of this virus is not Christian non Christian republican democrat ....we all better save our energy & unite to try to beat it because we either beat it or it beats us...
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... Trump doesn't need an extended Covid-19 outbreak to lose. His unbelievably incompetent behavior will do it for him. He can't even crack a 50% approval rating in the biggest National crisis in over 10 years.
I have a LOT of Family in the US that paint quite a different picture than yours Ralphie Ol' Boy.
Always get a giggle over Canadians getting triggered and incensed by Trump, while at the same time largely turning a blind eye towards the incompetence factor running so deep within our own government. Not my circus, not my monkeys comes to mind. Might want to keep that saying in mind when your blood pressure shoots up over the actions of a leader from a different country...
That aside, I am willing to make you a bet Ralphie. You can name the value associated within reason. And the bet? I say Trump will win the next election in the US. Already know your stance.
What you willing to put up??
Wondering...
Nog
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As a Christian myself, I don't agree that a pastor should tell or preach, or try to manipulate who Christians should vote for. Anyone who is a devout Christian already knows you don't vote for Killary Clinton or anyone else on the baby murdering progressive left...so what the pastor said was actually quite redundant.
Whether or not that is true....I'd like to know what information God gave you that gives you the inside knowledge to another man's soul. Please enlighten me.
Again as for the pastor saying to vote for Trump....what he should have said was to not vote for Killary Clinton. She is the devil incarnate. Christians are not to support the devil.
2x well put.
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Such a simple mindset. I wish I had the ablitiy to think like a simpleton. The Dems and Republicans are against each other? Same beast different head I say. I can remeber when Bush Jr was in the oval office and everyone just called him stupid. People dont see that these people are put in power for a reason. They are tools used to distract us from what is really going on. They are also used to pin people against each other. The powers that be know that when the people are divided, they can be conquered. This is why there has been a major push to destroy the family unit and break down human to human connections like the sense of community. Dont get sucked into the distraction of politics. It is just that, a distraction
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Whether or not that is true....I'd like to know what information God gave you that gives you the inside knowledge to another man's soul. Please enlighten me.
Again as for the pastor saying to vote for Trump....what he should have said was to not vote for Killary Clinton. She is the devil incarnate. Christians are not to support the devil.
I can't look into another man's soul but apparently you can look clearly into a woman's ::) ::)
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I have a LOT of Family in the US that paint quite a different picture than yours Ralphie Ol' Boy.
Always get a giggle over Canadians getting triggered and incensed by Trump, while at the same time largely turning a blind eye towards the incompetence factor running so deep within our own government. Not my circus, not my monkeys comes to mind. Might want to keep that saying in mind when your blood pressure shoots up over the actions of a leader from a different country...
That aside, I am willing to make you a bet Ralphie. You can name the value associated within reason. And the bet? I say Trump will win the next election in the US. Already know your stance.
What you willing to put up??
Wondering...
Nog
Oh Mr Noggin when will you learn to understand words in a conversation and not convert them into what you think they should mean?
I spoke of what people I knew said, not yours. No surprises what yours think but thanks for that info.
As for your money - it would be best for you to invest in something more solid than Trump's possible victory in November.
You have a nice day in self isolation my friend!
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Such a simple mindset. I wish I had the ablitiy to think like a simpleton. The Dems and Republicans are against each other? Same beast different head I say. I can remeber when Bush Jr was in the oval office and everyone just called him stupid. People dont see that these people are put in power for a reason. They are tools used to distract us from what is really going on. They are also used to pin people against each other. The powers that be know that when the people are divided, they can be conquered. This is why there has been a major push to destroy the family unit and break down human to human connections like the sense of community. Dont get sucked into the distraction of politics. It is just that, a distraction
Perhaps you do think like a simpleton. Anyone capable of basic critical thinking knows that Trump cannot be bought like you implied. True....most politicians are bought and paid for....but not Trump...never has been never will be. Why do you think the establishment has done everything humanly possible to get rid of him?
Trump is by far the best president the U.S. has seen in decades if not longer. If the dems were in power right now, you would see a complete breakdown of civilization in America. Trump is literally the only national leader on this side of the world keeping things at least livable.
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I can't look into another man's soul but apparently you can look clearly into a woman's ::) ::)
Her words condemn her. Pro abortion and being a Christian are an impossible combination...so I don't need to look into her soul. She is not a Christian as long as she supports the murdering of unborn children.
Trump on the other hand has stated that he would like abortion to be illegal. Does he have the power to that? No he doesn't. Does that make Trump a Christian? Of course it doesn't. But there are certain lines a Christian cannot cross when it comes to their beliefs....and supporting abortion crosses that line.
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.......Anyone capable of basic critical thinking knows that Trump cannot be bought like you implied. True..
..most politicians are bought and paid for....but not Trump...never has been never will be. Why do you think the establishment has done everything humanly possible to get rid of him?
Trump is by far the best president the U.S. has seen in decades if not longer........
......wow....what flavour was the kool-aid?.......
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aluminium pyrimond power the cure for Covid-19
Or let 's call it Corid -19 we rid it or it rid us !
Oh I get it...aluminium pyrimond power a new religion !
We aluminium pyrimond members know all truth...
Finally ..vote for republican or democrat or the new aluminium pyrimond party !!!
Oh ok dunce hat...we pick at straws & hope for best...
PM of Britain now has "the virus "
Politians tell us on tv ...isolate wash hands...and they are surrounded by people near the mic. Like a football huddle.
Gov. of Georgia think it was...when he heard there were 3 cases in his state ,immeadiately closed all schools etc...
Here in BC ..Washington St has virus keep the border open for the public....keep the planes coming in from all over.....BC people increased numbers of infection skyrocket ...close border/ limit flights ..
....little tooooo late.
But if the infection gets on skid row ...the curve may happen with isolation in our communities but John's going to hookers for service ...drug addicts...the virus will stay alive & keep being re introduced to our communities.
Is the gov going to get people in skid row to isolate ?
They are in groups...where do they put them to isolate?
Will they want to be isolated.
Like a forrest fire being put down ya got to put out the hot spots or the fire may flare up again.
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As for your money - it would be best for you to invest in something more solid than Trump's possible victory in November.
Knew you would chicken on that. Money where your yap is Ol' Boy...
Nog
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......wow....what flavour was the kool-aid?.......
I see the critical thinking or lack there of has effected several people. If Trump was bought and paid for, the establishment would love him...it's that simple. So I'll ask you...if Trump is bought and paid for and doing exactly what they want him to do, why does the establishment want to get rid of him? Its a simple question to answer.
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aluminium pyrimond power the cure for Covid-19
Or let 's call it Corid -19 we rid it or it rid us !
Oh I get it...aluminium pyrimond power a new religion !
We aluminium pyrimond members know all truth...
Finally ..vote for republican or democrat or the new aluminium pyrimond party !!!
Oh ok dunce hat...we pick at straws & hope for best...
PM of Britain now has "the virus "
Politians tell us on tv ...isolate wash hands...and they are surrounded by people near the mic. Like a football huddle.
Gov. of Georgia think it was...when he heard there were 3 cases in his state ,immeadiately closed all schools etc...
Here in BC ..Washington St has virus keep the border open for the public....keep the planes coming in from all over.....BC people increased numbers of infection skyrocket ...close border/ limit flights ..
....little tooooo late.
But if the infection gets on skid row ...the curve may happen with isolation in our communities but John's going to hookers for service ...drug addicts...the virus will stay alive & keep being re introduced to our communities.
Is the gov going to get people in skid row to isolate ?
They are in groups...where do they put them to isolate?
Will they want to be isolated.
Like a forrest fire being put down ya got to put out the hot spots or the fire may flare up again.
You're 100% right.
60000 homeless people in LA doing drugs/sharing needles, exchanging stolen goods together every day while working people are isolated in their homes. Someone tell me how that stops a virus??
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Knew you would chicken on that. Money where your yap is Ol' Boy...
Nog
LOL!
How much did you pay out following the Oct 21 2019 Federal election where you were so sure Scheer and the Conservatives would form the next government? You dropped out of sight from all you web lobbyist work for some time best I recall.
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I see the critical thinking or lack there of has effected several people. If Trump was bought and paid for, the establishment would love him...it's that simple. So I'll ask you...if Trump is bought and paid for and doing exactly what they want him to do, why does the establishment want to get rid of him? Its a simple question to answer.
........what if he was not bought and paid for by the establishment on the whole but by a small sliver of that establishment and the majority of that establishment wants to get rid of him because he is a dangerous con-man..?
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........what if he was not bought and paid for by the establishment on the whole but by a small sliver of that establishment and the majority of that establishment wants to get rid of him because he is a dangerous con-man..?
I think I saw that on a James Bond movie....can't remember which one.
Regardless.....nope.
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Hopefully Rod will allow this topic to continue as sidetracked as it is. Not too many of us are out fishing and the conversation has stayed quite civil. Much appreciated too.
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...can't argue with that argument ( lack of )....still waiting for a list of sources of unbiased info....guess I'll have to keep relying on my own eyes and ears.....and my guess is cherry......
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It’s a good way to single out the religious bigots, so of course it should keep going.
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On a wholly positive yet unrelated note, a few bays in Puget Sound are reporting record herring spawning this season. Anybody have any reports on herring activity from farther north? It's a good sign that at least the fish will have plenty of feed in their last couple months before entering the rivers.
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Her words condemn her. Pro abortion and being a Christian are an impossible combination...so I don't need to look into her soul. She is not a Christian as long as she supports the murdering of unborn children.
Trump on the other hand has stated that he would like abortion to be illegal. Does he have the power to that? No he doesn't. Does that make Trump a Christian? Not on its own...of course it doesn't. But there are certain lines a Christian cannot cross when it comes to their beliefs....and supporting abortion crosses that line.
Most of Trump's adult life he was pro-choice.
Trump only shifted his opinion - to match the position Ronald Reagan took during his Presidency - when he first considered running for the Republican nomination. That is he opposes Roe vs Wade but supports abortion in the case of pregnancy resulting from rape, incest or where carrying a child to term may endanger the life of the prospective mother.
Most people saw this view as merely strategic to enhance his chance of gaining support for pursuing the nomination and not a truly held value.
Trump has politically flip flopped constantly throughout his adult life. Being both a Republican and a Democratic at various times. Supporting the Clintons, being their friend, attending the wedding of their daughter Chelsea and then becoming her worst enemy when he contemplated taking a run at the Presidency.
Basically Trump tells people what he thinks they want to hear. He is about self-aggrandizement and has no real personal values of his own beyond making money and having his ego constantly stroked.
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Most of Trump's adult life he was pro-choice.
Trump only shifted his opinion - to match the position Ronald Reagan took during his Presidency - when he first considered running for the Republican nomination. That is he opposes Roe vs Wade but supports abortion in the case of pregnancy resulting from rape, incest or where carrying a child to term may endanger the life of the prospective mother.
Most people saw this view as merely strategic to enhance his chance of gaining support for pursuing the nomination and not a truly held value.
Trump has politically flip flopped constantly throughout his adult life. Being both a Republican and a Democratic at various times. Supporting the Clintons, being their friend, attending the wedding of their daughter Chelsea and then becoming her worst enemy when he contemplated taking a run at the Presidency.
Basically Trump tells people what he thinks they want to hear. He is about self-aggrandizement and has no real personal values of his own beyond making money and having his ego constantly stroked.
You don't actually know why Trump shifted his opinion. Again....it's like you think you can read minds or something.
As for Trumps moral behavior, I don't think anyone sees him as a 'saint'....or even close, but at the end of the day Christianity is not a showcase for saints; it's a hospital for sinners. That is one of the fundamentals of our beliefs. You come to the Lord for forgiveness and healing resulting in eternal life with God, based on who Jesus is and what He did on the cross and that God raised Him from the dead.
Whether or not Trump is at that point yet is between him and God. However, many Christians say they have seen some real change in his behavior and morals since he took the presidency. That's how becoming a Christian works. You don't start your Christian life as a sinless perfect human being. You come to God broken in need of being reborn and then he helps you grow from that starting point. Even a seasoned Christian of 50 years or more....they are far from perfect. That's just how it works. Perhaps Trump is in the very early stages of being a Christian.....again....that's between him and God and I'm not going to judge.
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You don't actually know why Trump shifted his opinion. ....it's like you think you can read minds or something.
No but neither can you. Nor did I say I could "read his mind". There is however good reason to doubt the sincerity of his beliefs and frankly the veracity of much of what he says. That is well documented!
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Nor did I say I could "read this mind".
Really? I think you did...see next quote
Trump only shifted his opinion - to match the position Ronald Reagan took during his Presidency
Um....I'm pretty sure that's the equivariant of saying you can read someone's mind. Unless Trump told you his reason or stated it publicly (which he did not)....the only way you could know is by reading his mind...logical conclusion here.
There is however good reason to doubt the sincerity of his beliefs and frankly the veracity of much of what he says. That is well documented!
documented by who...CNN? The media has become professionals at twisting his words. They don't even deny that they do it anymore...and no, you don't have good reason to doubt his sincerity..
I'll tell you what is well documented though...the fact that CNN was looking for ways to impeach him before he was even elected in 2016...…if you don't see a problem with that then I have nothing more to you on the subject.
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...watching trump live on CNN using my own eyes and ears....is that a biased source ?...twists his own words in the same breath.....
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Faux News is reliable source of information ?
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LOL!
How much did you pay out following the Oct 21 2019 Federal election where you were so sure Scheer and the Conservatives would form the next government? You dropped out of sight from all you web lobbyist work for some time best I recall.
;D ;D Scheer wasn't ready ;)
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You don't actually know why Trump shifted his opinion. Again....it's like you think you can read minds or something.
As for Trumps moral behavior, I don't think anyone sees him as a 'saint'....or even close, but at the end of the day Christianity is not a showcase for saints; it's a hospital for sinners. That is one of the fundamentals of our beliefs. You come to the Lord for forgiveness and healing resulting in eternal life with God, based on who Jesus is and what He did on the cross and that God raised Him from the dead.
Whether or not Trump is at that point yet is between him and God. However, many Christians say they have seen some real change in his behavior and morals since he took the presidency. That's how becoming a Christian works. You don't start your Christian life as a sinless perfect human being. You come to God broken in need of being reborn and then he helps you grow from that starting point. Even a seasoned Christian of 50 years or more....they are far from perfect. That's just how it works. Perhaps Trump is in the very early stages of being a Christian.....again....that's between him and God and I'm not going to judge.
Yes yes yes !
Ask the doctors about the "virus" & they know it exists & it's somewhat how it infects /spreads...but they have more questions than answers.
Weeks ago doctors said the general masks does not work at all & a waste of time. Now they say wear a mask or masks made from cloth / even paper towel...
Kinda like when it comes to religion ha! 100s of religions denominations /faiths have "the answer".
Ya study a little & it gets ya more confused & doubtful.
Go in with an open mind & 6 months later leave with a closed mind.
They say....I'll just not steal or kill people and go fishing. Ha !
Even tons of people attending churches for years have a "well I hope this Jesus thing is real. Hope so"
Got the religious info but 100% convinced (no)
By the way Robert_G comments I sense he is 100% convinced his Christian faith is real.
I too have that "knowing".
Literally zero unbelief.
I too though attended church & had a " hope this Jesus story is real"
Was not convinced but just guessed it was a true story.
Finally decided to pray to Him with all my heart & had that "born again" Christian conversion !
Literally felt the Holy Spirit !
Since that time witness a lot. (Share but not arm twist) Even a few times encountered "the evil presence" ...yes there is a spiritual war. Forces behind the scene. We cannot see. So evil that in comparison it makes Covid-19 look harmless like candy.
People are running for sanitizer /toilet paper....but if they knew of this other evil New Testaments would sell out & a waiting list 2 yrs long.
Pres. Trump is surrounded by pastors who have met The Lord in a real way...and their faith is rubbing off on him. Bird of a feather flock together.
Pres. Trump asks for their prayers daily in the Oval Office.
But I understand why most think Christianity is foolish & BS but if you were to focus on the millions who tell of an encounter with God in a real supernatural way....that open mind would open wider & wider & wider ...& one day you will pray directly to God & get a response.
Went for a bike ride & had to empty my blatter.
So went into a portable outhouse at a site where a house is being constructed.
In that little space...not too clean looking...paper on floor etc...all I could think was...is there any Corvid-19 in here ??? Ha !
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;D ;D Scheer wasn't ready ;)
There's more to this story FA.
On Election Day Trudeau & Scheer were on the start line. At the count of 3 both were to run to the finish line 25 yds away. Trudeau wanted a 100 yard race but Scheer a 10 yard race.
They agreed to 25 yard race.
Here's what happened: 1 - 2 - ( what !!! Trudeau started running!!! Scheer was stunned... ) 3 now Scheer takes off ....Trudeau runs across the finish line !!! Winner winner winner! I win ! he yells.
Scheer complains Trudeau started early on the count of 2.
Trudeau questioned & he denies everything.
I won fair & square.
::)
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It’s a good way to single out the religious bigots, so of course it should keep going.
lol some of the finest examples for sure. I'm impressed with their articulations as ridiculous and myopic as they are.
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There's more to this story FA.
On Election Day Trudeau & Scheer were on the start line. At the count of 3 both were to run to the finish line 25 yds away. Trudeau wanted a 100 yard race but Scheer a 10 yard race.
They agreed to 25 yard race.
Here's what happened: 1 - 2 - ( what !!! Trudeau started running!!! Scheer was stunned... ) 3 now Scheer takes off ....Trudeau runs across the finish line !!! Winner winner winner! I win ! he yells.
Scheer complains Trudeau started early on the count of 2.
Trudeau questioned & he denies everything.
I won fair & square.
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And there you have the rest of the story ;)
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heres the only way trump knows how to get rid of the virus.
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he says lets open up the economy by easter so everyone can cram into a church so we can make a bad situation worse to pray to some fake dude. sounds like a plan. or militarize the canadian borders. man this guy is a genius. global warming hoax by chinese. i could go on and on and on.
the only person worse that trump is guy who dosent know what state hes in joe biden. can barely put full sentences together. may as well be hillary 2.0
its bernie or bust. the other 2 are just corporate gangsters. bernie is the only one who can "make america great again". perhaps for the first time.
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if trump militarizes the border we should do this
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LMFAO !
Look at you clowns. Bickering about politics. That's EXACTLY what they want you to do ! Period. They WANT you to be on the left or the right. Morons. They play all of you like puppets on a the end of a string. Humans should be united together. Simple as that.
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And there you have the rest of the story ;)
No. As the Leaf advisor with a perfect record. Horgan and Trudeau have the next election sewed up the way they are handling this issue, handing out money the we paid #34, #16 and #91. Trump not so, gone. Bet your money on it. ;D ;D ;D
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After all these years of politics dont you people see a trend ? Most parties campaign against the Bill's and actions of the current leading party. They rarely ( if ever ) repeal the laws they campaigned against once they cone into power. The agenda moves forward with a different face. Same old same old folks. I know it's hard to believe but the evidence is there. It's right in front of your face.
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heres the only way trump knows how to get rid of the virus.
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he says lets open up the economy by easter so everyone can cram into a church so we can make a bad situation worse to pray to some fake dude. sounds like a plan. or militarize the canadian borders. man this guy is a genius. global warming hoax by chinese. i could go on and on and on.
the only person worse that trump is guy who dosent know what state hes in joe biden. can barely put full sentences together. may as well be hillary 2.0
its bernie or bust. the other 2 are just corporate gangsters. bernie is the only one who can "make america great again". perhaps for the first time.
Very interesting!
Think Bernie "Moscow" Sanders is far behind Biden.
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No. As the Leaf advisor with a perfect record. Horgan and Trudeau have the next election sewed up the way they are handling this issue, handing out money the we paid #34, #16 and #91. Trump not so, gone. Bet your money on it. ;D ;D ;D
Very Interesting!
Think lots of voters did not like H. Clinton.
They did not vote.
Biden is liked more than Hillary I think so it may be a very close race.
But President Trump it seems has 9 lives & known to have a few tricks up his sleeve.
And Nog picks Trump so ...that logic from Nog tips the scales .
So it's not ...Trump not so but rather ....Trump so !!!
Trump another term !!! Then his son 2 terms & the other son 2 terms & then the young son by that time will be ready...for 2 more terms. So that 's 4 plus 8 plus 8 plus 8 = 28 more years of Trumps in the a White House ;D
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Very interesting!
Think Bernie "Moscow" Sanders is far behind Biden.
Lol. Bernie moscow sanders. Thats amusing. Care to back that up with some facts or just spew out some more fox news talking points.
Lets see trumps taxs and will see whos closest to russia. O wait he wont release them. Wonder why?
Your right he is behind biden. The democratic machine is not easy to beat but its not over. Once people see how bidens mental health deteriorates it could switch overnight.
Trump should pray or whatever Christians do that he goes against biden because Bernie will mop the floor with that fake populist orange goof.
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Really? I think you did...see next quote
Um....I'm pretty sure that's the equivariant of saying you can read someone's mind. Unless Trump told you his reason or stated it publicly (which he did not)....the only way you could know is by reading his mind...logical conclusion here.
documented by who...CNN? The media has become professionals at twisting his words. They don't even deny that they do it anymore...and no, you don't have good reason to doubt his sincerity..
I'll tell you what is well documented though...the fact that CNN was looking for ways to impeach him before he was even elected in 2016...…if you don't see a problem with that then I have nothing more to you on the subject.
LOL! Brillant! You absolutely destroyed the context of what I said via your quote.
Here is what I said in full:
Trump only shifted his opinion - to match the position Ronald Reagan took during his Presidency - when he first considered running for the Republican nomination. That is he opposes Roe vs Wade but supports abortion in the case of pregnancy resulting from rape, incest or where carrying a child to term may endanger the life of the prospective mother.
I always appreciate the irony of you using the term "critical thinking" in any post.
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Lol. Bernie moscow sanders. Thats amusing. Care to back that up with some facts or just spew out some more fox news talking points.
Lets see trumps taxs and will see whos closest to russia. O wait he wont release them. Wonder why?
Your right he is behind biden. The democratic machine is not easy to beat but its not over. Once people see how bidens mental health deteriorates it could switch overnight.
Trump should pray or whatever Christians do that he goes against biden because Bernie will mop the floor with that fake populist orange goof.
Bernie is so far to the "left" it' so left it fits in the peg in the hole of Russian political system.
Even majority of Democrats are more middle of road ...
Bernie wins & he will have too much power /control.
He says jump & we say "how high?"
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Bernie is so far to the "left" it' so left it fits in the peg in the hole of Russian political system.
Even majority of Democrats are more middle of road ...
Bernie wins & he will have too much power /control.
He says jump & we say "how high?"
What Russian political system? Putins trying to change their constitution so he will stay in power for ever. There is no political system in russia. Any politicians who appose putin end up dead.
Whats to far left? Medicare for all? $15 minimum wage? Kill student dept? Might be left in the states but its the middle in most developed countries.
Establishment Democrats are just Republican light.
Im just bitter because i didn't catch a steelhead today. I sure hope we don't get shut down like Washington did.
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Whats to far left? Medicare for all? $15 minimum wage? Kill student dept? Might be left in the states but its the middle in most developed countries.
Wasting your time talking to brick walls here lol.....
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After all these years of politics dont you people see a trend ? Most parties campaign against the Bill's and actions of the current leading party. They rarely ( if ever ) repeal the laws they campaigned against once they cone into power. The agenda moves forward with a different face. Same old same old folks. I know it's hard to believe but the evidence is there. It's right in front of your face.
We finally agree on something. :)
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Wasting your time talking to brick walls here lol.....
I agree with Rodney on this one.
Bernie wants free free free everything....free university free medical free dental ...
No $ for military.
Russia may offer to protect the USA from invasion. They can open bases in NYC Boston Miami Chicago Kansas Dallas LA San Francisco & Seattle.
Plus what's Bernie wants is only for First Nations.
They have those privileges ...free housing medical dental university vocational schooling.
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I agree with Rodney on this one.
Bernie wants free free free everything....free university free medical free dental ...
No $ for military.
Russia may offer to protect the USA from invasion. They can open bases in NYC Boston Miami Chicago Kansas Dallas LA San Francisco & Seattle.
Plus what's Bernie wants is only for First Nations.
They have those privileges ...free housing medical dental university vocational schooling.
i agree, what a monster. he wants everyone to have free medical so people don't die on the streets or can receive care if they contract this virus. "how are you gonna pay for it?" when he talks about free dental and hearing aids for your aging mother whos teeth are decaying like her hearing. they scream " Venezuela" when he says people shouldn't leave university thousands in dept. whats he thinking?
i think its time canada, the states and the rest of the world demilitarize. think of all the good we could do with every countries militarys budget. alot of good all these weapons do us when we are battling a common foe. a deadly virus that doesn't care if your rich or poor, young or old, black or white.
im not even going to respond to your russia protecting usa from invasion comment. im stoned and have had a few double vodkas and i cant even wrap my head around where you got that one from.
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Wasting your time talking to brick walls here lol.....
i know your right
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i agree, what a monster. he wants everyone to have free medical so people don't die on the streets or can receive care if they contract this virus. "how are you gonna pay for it?" when he talks about free dental and hearing aids for your aging mother whos teeth are decaying like her hearing. they scream " Venezuela" when he says people shouldn't leave university thousands in dept. whats he thinking?
i think its time canada, the states and the rest of the world demilitarize. think of all the good we could do with every countries militarys budget. alot of good all these weapons do us when we are battling a common foe. a deadly virus that doesn't care if your rich or poor, young or old, black or white.
im not even going to respond to your russia protecting usa from invasion comment. im stoned and have had a few double vodkas and i cant even wrap my head around where you got that one from.
bigblockfox in this crazy times we all need something to escape the bad news. People dying in high numbers.
A few vodkas & such is like a medicine. I drink red wine myself & listen to Presley songs or various youtube music vids country rock pop gospel blues jazz from various decades.
But I have drank a lot less these days. Just cannot get into the party mood.
Yes I believe in the Good Lord but still like having wine & listening to mainly Elvis ...plus he does sing gospel.
Really think your ideas are very good & like Bernie's plan...but ....
I too wish all military spending would stop & we direct the funds to help the human race. Food health shelter education.
But sadly there always had been a % of the population in the world that wants to be on a power trip / in control/ greedy.
If all countries disarmed & worked together ...it would be just a matter of time some radial group will organize & try to take over a country/ world.
Radial group that believes you should worship this way & if you resist....you will be terminated.
Even take a city & tell the people to all work together ! They terminate the police departments to redirect funds to shelter education...but what happens...criminals /gangs do their thing abusing others at will.
Sorry but cities need police & countries need a military.
Take the military away & another country will invade.
I do wish 100% of people would be on the same page & we all helped each other & lived in peace but sadly as mentioned there will be those who will want to take over...
As for Russia putting bases in the USA to protect the country ...well let me explain. Socialism Bernie "Moscow" Sanders would spend the entire budget paying for medical shelter dental education food...there would be zero $ for a military.
USA would be wide open to be invaded with zero protection.
So if Bernie ruled (socialism ) Russia offers their services...military bases on USA soil. Bernie doesn't want to be invaded by Mexico Cuba N Korea China Iran Libya ...so he thanks Russia...
But Russia in turn wants the steel grain lumber so on ...
The realty is a city needs a police force & so country needs a strong military. No police no military means crime & invasion in city /country.
It would be a nice world if we did not have to lock our doors...or lock the gas cap...or alarm our cars.
Italy on Friday had nearly 1000 die in 24 hrs.
One 30 something yr old Canadian guy said when he coughs it feels like a 1000 needles jabbing into his back !!! Weird how some get mild symptoms while ours suffer so badly.
Wash hands wash hands wash hands...let's beat this virus.
It would be nice to live a few blocks from a fishing spot...walk over there & fish. ( no need to drive ) Surely gov. would not object if the fishing spot is in walking distance & not a crowded spot.
Moral of story ...buy house near the river/lake /stream.
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..........Trump so !!!
Trump another term !!! Then his son 2 terms & the other son 2 terms & then the young son by that time will be ready...for 2 more terms. So that 's 4 plus 8 plus 8 plus 8 = 28 more years of Trumps in the a White House ;D
.......best scenario of the apocalypse I've read....
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Trump not so, gone. Bet your money on it. ;D ;D ;D
Only way Trump is gone is if he dies or somehow the most illegal, dishonest and/or fraudulent scenerio is somehow successfully implimented by the left. Under fair and normal circumstances, Trump will win 2020 by a landslide. Bernie is a loose cannon and Sleepy Joe can't even remember what he ate for breakfast this morning.
Trump another term !!! Then his son 2 terms & the other son 2 terms & then the young son by that time will be ready...for 2 more terms. So that 's 4 plus 8 plus 8 plus 8 = 28 more years of Trumps in the a White House ;D
If Trump was able somehow to stay in another term or 2, the Republicans would love it. 2024....I think Ben Shapiro will be old enough to run and the guy has more common sense than the whole lot of them.
Bernie is so far to the "left" it' so left it fits in the peg in the hole of Russian political system.
Even majority of Democrats are more middle of road ...
Bernie wins & he will have too much power /control.
He says jump & we say "how high?"
I'm blown away that anyone would even consider to let Bernie anywhere near the presidency. His green plan/healthcare plan has been estimated by several reliable sources at about 100 trillion dollars realistically.
How does a country pay for that? He's a nut. He has zero common sense and not a shred of understanding the real world and how it works.
After all these years of politics dont you people see a trend ? Most parties campaign against the Bill's and actions of the current leading party. They rarely ( if ever ) repeal the laws they campaigned against once they cone into power. The agenda moves forward with a different face. Same old same old folks. I know it's hard to believe but the evidence is there. It's right in front of your face.
Partially wrong...but mostly wrong. The main agenda is global...always has been always will be. No one believes or thinks that Trump is interested in a global agenda. He despises the UN and is a patriot. He is an "America First" mentality. That sort of thing is opposite the global agenda. As for national or local agenda...all politicians have are guilty of it to some degree, but the progressive left have a global nightmare agenda that Trump and the right want zero part of.
i agree, what a monster. he wants everyone to have free medical so people don't die on the streets or can receive care if they contract this virus. "how are you gonna pay for it?" when he talks about free dental and hearing aids for your aging mother whos teeth are decaying like her hearing. they scream " Venezuela" when he says people shouldn't leave university thousands in dept. whats he thinking?
i think its time canada, the states and the rest of the world demilitarize. think of all the good we could do with every countries militarys budget. alot of good all these weapons do us when we are battling a common foe. a deadly virus that doesn't care if your rich or poor, young or old, black or white.
im not even going to respond to your russia protecting usa from invasion comment. im stoned and have had a few double vodkas and i cant even wrap my head around where you got that one from.
I was going to respond to this and then read your last sentence......it helped me figure out why you think the way you do....but anyways....there is NO SUCH THING AS FREE HEALTHCARE. Anyone with Economics 101 knows that (which I have). FREE HEALTHCARE DOES NOT EXIST IN ANY COUNTRY. I wish people would get that through their heads.
i think its time canada, the states and the rest of the world demilitarize. think of all the good we could do with every countries militarys budget. alot of good all these weapons do us when we are battling a common foe. a deadly virus that doesn't care if your rich or poor, young or old, black or white.
Now you are scaring me. It's this type of thinking that ushers in a dystopia civilization.
And just to be clear.....as a Christian....I despise war. It makes me sick to my stomach. I wish it would go away, but that is NEVER going to happen in this age....and because of that, I'd rather be in a country where we have people in power like the Republicans currently. They know how to protect their country and at least make their citizens feel somewhat safe. I'd be scared stiff of what Trudeau would do if a foreign invader threatened Canada.
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health care is not free? really? thanks captain obvious. i meant free at the time of use. no one thinks health care is free.
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my old man thinks the way most of you old timers do. he worked hard his entire life. made good $. enjoyed his cigarettes and the casual drink. fishing was his passion. never went to the doctor. took a hand full of sick days his entire career. in till he started losing weight around it 68th birthday. he went all the way down to 140lbs on his 6 foot 4 frame before we made him go to the doctors. when i went to visit him i could barley recognize him. they pumped 4 liters of fluid outside of his lungs. slowly he recovered. he spent nearly 3 weeks in VGH while the doctors did test. they were even unsure of exactly what he had. he received some of the best treatment in the world. now stop and think what this would have cost in the states if he had to pay for it? $100000, maybe $200000, who knows. he would have never been able to afford that. now i know in the states he would have been on medicare because of his age but imagine he was under the age of 65. their was no way his family could have afforded this. he quit smoking cold turkey and now looks healthy as ever. he has always been a conservative and still is but this has defiantly change his beliefs on medicare for all. this was his view for three weeks.
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watched my step father die of lou garrisons disease. we are forever grate full for the als society so he could pass in comfort and in his own home till the very end. he was in his mid fifties with a daughter still in high school. in fact the same high school he taught at. again no way our family could afford his treatment if we were in US. i feel for american people who have to make tough decisions when it comes to medical conditions. things us canadians take for granted.
if you don't think this graph is a problem when your own people cant afford healthcare or post secondary education then i don't know what to say. not to mention their homeless populations and veterans that do not have the resources they need. also russia will NEVER have a base any where near america. i cant believe i even have to say that. where are you getting your info from? the closes they got was supplying cuba with missles and we all know how that went.
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for the record i do believe we as a country should be able to protect ourselves. what i don't believe in is endless wars, policing the world and open borders.
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This type of dribble is what happens when you kids dont get your line wet. Crazy.
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Kids? Im 35 years old. I got my line wet yesterday and plan on going tomorrow, Monday, Tuesday and maybe more depending on how the fishing is and if they keep it open. Im taking voluntary time off to ease the finacial pain to my employer. And no i do not live in my mother's basement. I am 4 years away from owning my house in clayton heights. Once its paided i will have alot more time to get my line wet.
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How do FWR members view Trudeau’s stance on making conversion therapy illegal?
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How do FWR members view Trudeau’s stance on making conversion therapy illegal?
start your own thread - perhaps with a poll
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Only if the big Rodney allows it
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Kids? Im 35 years old. . And no i do not live in my mother's basement.
Are you sure about that???
im stoned and have had a few double vodkas
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Are you sure about that???
you got me. thought i could fool ya. i am way to drunk and stoned to manage anything like that. can barely get my waders on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHLJ0DaMIIc
interesting video for those that want some clarity about covid 19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHLJ0DaMIIc
interesting video for those that want some clarity about covid 19
The vaccine kingpin. The man who stepped down from Microsoft just before the pandemic broke. How convenient
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Kids? Im 35 years old. I got my line wet yesterday and plan on going tomorrow, Monday, Tuesday and maybe more depending on how the fishing is and if they keep it open. Im taking voluntary time off to ease the finacial pain to my employer. And no i do not live in my mother's basement. I am 4 years away from owning my house in clayton heights. Once its paided i will have alot more time to get my line wet.
Good for you. Big boy with big dreams. Gonna own your own home. I'm so proud of you. Growing up so fast. How cute
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Covid-19
Seen vids on YT of nurses / doctors experience trying to help sick people. They were nearly crying...like a war zone...stopped counting how many died....
These 3 youtube vids (hope yous may view)
1) Las Vegas AE view live.
2) Coronavirus top 10 vitamin C foods you must eat
Dr Stan Egberg
3) US virologist breaks down covid 19 how to curb the spread
The Korean Times
Time to wash hands
Time to isolate
Time to rest / get good sleep
Time to build up body immune system to to fight off infection.
Eat food that have Vit. C
Vit. D
Eat sauerkraut ( Bicks I like ) or kefir drink or yogurt ...feed your gut these so to build up good bacteria.
Stay away from sugar !!!!
Best advice is prayer.
But not pushy on this ...just sharing.
Cannot force people to pray as it's a personal issue.
Just do not think God hates you...He loves you even if you may have ignored Him 99.9999% of the time.
Ha !
The prayer advice is free but the other info & vids advice if you view...please send me 1 million dollars.
Listen I'm flexible... Pay all at once or take 5 years 10 years even 25. ;D
Hope you all are doing ok.
Can't imagine how many are suffering right now....patients ....grieving families...medical staff...so on..
Telus has put about 10 free channels on previews...I guess to entertain us stuck indoors.
How can something so small ya cannot even see...have such an effect on our daily world as we know it.
So sad.
bigblockfox you shall own your house before 40 yrs old.
Well my house is paid but was a lot older ( much older. ) when that happened.
Keep healthy exercise eat right & enjoy it.
And stay away from the VIRUS .
This situation is kinda like a tv Twilight Zone story :o
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Thanks hike. Put my big boy pants on today.
Good advice a boater. Stay safe everyone.
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https://youtu.be/gAk7aX5hksU
Another interesting video.
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.......best scenario of the apocalypse I've read....
Yes Pres Trump 4 more yrs his 3 sons 2 terms each...let's see. ( fingers & toes count... ) oh 28 yrs more in the White House......and there's more to this story....Pres Trump grandsons .... & their sons ...gee we could easily have a century of Trumps in as leader.
There was a Bat phone to the police station. O'Hara police chief something like that.
So in White House have a hot phone...Trump's son is now pres. (future) & decisions need to be made.
Pick up the hot phone....ring ring.
Retired Pres. Trump answers..( he's playing golf in Florida ) he says : " ok son do this & this & say this & this... "
Maybe there will be so many Trumps off spring.....what's better than 1 Trump 2 Trumps so...
In future have more Pres Trumps & at same time VP (Vice Pres.) Trumps ...
Double whammy... For 1 vote get 2 Trumps.
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Barron, thought to have Aspergers syndrome and a learning disability is unlikely to take on any public role. Trump still has to win a second term which most signs are he isn't favoured to win. Little sign the other 2 are bound for a Presidential run or would even win.
Telling you excluded Ivanka who has been closest to her father particularly in the White House (no reference here to the incest rumors) or Tiffany.
Overall what many on the extreme Christian right seem to wish for is an American Monarchy or an inherited Dictatorship.
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Yes Pres Trump 4 more yrs his 3 sons 2 terms each...let's see. ( fingers & toes count... ) oh 28 yrs more in the White House......and there's more to this story....Pres Trump grandsons .... & their sons ...gee we could easily have a century of Trumps in as leader.
There was a Bat phone to the police station. O'Hara police chief something like that.
So in White House have a hot phone...Trump's son is now pres. (future) & decisions need to be made.
Pick up the hot phone....ring ring.
Retired Pres. Trump answers..( he's playing golf in Florida ) he says : " ok son do this & this & say this & this... "
Maybe there will be so many Trumps off spring.....what's better than 1 Trump 2 Trumps so...
In future have more Pres Trumps & at same time VP (Vice Pres.) Trumps ...
Double whammy... For 1 vote get 2 Trumps.
.........will be convenient to have the anti-christ the beast and the four horseman all in the same family....
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.........will be convenient to have the anti-christ the beast and the four horseman all in the same family....
Spoonman Pres. Trump sure is not anti - christ Ha!
He 's very pro Christ. Ha!
The 4 horses in Revelations.
One is a pale sickly plague bringing death famines...
Lots believe the Revelations "time of sorrows " has started.
One world order cashless society anti-christ world ruler 666 and all that ...
Do know Matthew ch 24 it gives signs that are happening today...
Famines wars rumor of wars divorce evilness increased earthquakes and it mentions pestilences !!!
That is the same as endemic and what is happening now.
But no Pres. Trump is too pro Christ to be the anti-christ.
Ha! Good try though.
Know one thing Rodney & others would like to be having fun fishing adventures at some interior lake or other members watching hockey so on...
Hopefully there's light at the end of the tunnel soon.
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Spoonman Pres. Trump sure is not anti - christ Ha!
He 's very pro Christ. Ha!
The 4 horses in Revelations.
One is a pale sickly plague bringing death famines...
Lots believe the Revelations "time of sorrows " has started.
One world order cashless society anti-christ world ruler 666 and all that ...
Do know Matthew ch 24 it gives signs that are happening today...
Famines wars rumor of wars divorce evilness increased earthquakes and it mentions pestilences !!!
That is the same as endemic and what is happening now.
But no Pres. Trump is too pro Christ to be the anti-christ.
Ha! Good try though.
Know one thing Rodney & others would like to be having fun fishing adventures at some interior lake or other members watching hockey so on...
Hopefully there's light at the end of the tunnel soon.
The prophecy in Daniel 11:37 clearly teaches why Trump isn't the Antichrist.
Daniel 11:37 says this:
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
Trump loves women and so do the other men in the family. He is not the Antichrist.
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Wow I’ve never seen a thread turn into a big of a dumpster fire as this one.
Congratulations guys
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Entertaining though!!
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The prophecy in Daniel 11:37 clearly teaches why Trump isn't the Antichrist.
Daniel 11:37 says this:
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
Trump loves women and so do the other men in the family. He is not the Antichrist.
"grab 'em by the pu$$y" displays a love for women? He never disputed the claim he beat his first wife Ivana. He certainly desires women but not always in positive ways.
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Entertaining though!!
Guy upstairs guy downstairs and us in the middle.
Good vs evil.
Non fiction is stranger than fiction.
But just got back from a bike ride & seen a few interesting things ... sandwich board telling strollers to keep 2 metres apart when on dyke.
Seen a duck in this very small ditch...only 1.5 ft across ditch. Most of west Richmond has no ditches but the ones that remain normally are quite wide. Narrow ditch nevertheless duck was swimming in it.
Should of went earlier as it was more sunny nevertheless quite nice out. Had that feeling of Spring !!!
Then at one house near their front door they had a bus stop post from the past.
Wood post painted in dark green paint with white paint at top with BUS STOP.
What's her name Greta Thunberg is it ?
Is she happy the earth has less pollution since the virus has shut down factories traffic in cities on & on...guess in her view the virus has a good side to it. Less pollution.
Doctors in Italy saying : Hope we only have 800 die today !!!
Down from the normal 900 plus.
Gee remind me not to travel to NYC or Europe.
Wheel of Fortune has Pat telling the contestant " You have won a boat cruise ..."
Contestant says " no thank you "
So Pat says "well we will give you a nice trip to Paris France"
Contestant " no thank you"
England
"No thank you"
Gee I hope people are not too bored staying isolated and have a sweet tooth ...
I'm bored ...let me eat this banana.
What should I do now?
I'll eat bag of potato chips.
Peanut butter cookie looks good ...eat one. Not that big so eat two ...
Supper time.
Pizza soup T-bone steak ....
Later...pop corn ...
Bedtime snack 1 toast and peanut butter ...
( this is not me eating all this. Just fiction story if someone eats when bored & forced isolation.)
Before isolation 160 lbs after isolation 200 lbs 8)
Trudeau's wife getting better & looks like she lost lots of weight.
Stay safe.
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And that, boys and girls, is why you should seek for answers at a post secondary institute.
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I'm going fishing tomorrow.
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"grab 'em by the pu$$y" displays a love for women?
Did you even read what I posted? The scripture says "desire", not "love". "Desire" and "Love" are two different words with two different meanings. It means his natural tendency won't be to share relations with a woman. Not one part of that scripture says anything about love.....and I'm the one getting criticized for level of education…..really? Any English teacher I had in university would fail you for your lack of properly reading what is put in front of you. It's something I see you do with so many posts from others here too.
The Antichrist will not love anyone but himself. When I said Trump loves women, I meant in a physical carnal way.....and you know that's what I meant.
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I'm going fishing tomorrow.
X2
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Did you even read what I posted? The scripture says "desire", not "love". "Desire" and "Love" are two different words with two different meanings. It means his natural tendency won't be to share relations with a woman. Not one part of that scripture says anything about love.....and I'm the one getting criticized for level of education…..really? Any English teacher I had in university would fail you for your lack of properly reading what is put in front of you. It's something I see you do with so many posts from others here too.
The Antichrist will not love anyone but himself. When I said Trump loves women, I meant in a physical carnal way.....and you know that's what I meant.
It's good to inform unbelievers but in the end they will either think Christians are "nutty fanatics" or they will just shake their heads.
For anyone to know what you & I are saying is true they have to have an encounter with God thru prayer from the heart.
It's like the story ...a rich guy wants to give away a gold brick to who ever wants it.
He puts the gold brick under a cardboard box.
A guy comes along and the rich guy tells him to go over & lift the box & he will find a gold brick.
The bonus is the guy can have it . No strings attached.
The guy says " What do you take me for. Who gives away a free gold brick? Your a nut. He walks away.
Another guy comes along.
The rich guy tells him to go over to the box ,lift it , and there is a free gold brick for him to keep !
Guy rubs his chin. Well I do not have a gold brick now & if I lift that box and there's no gold brick what have I got to lose.
He goes over lifts the box & there's a gold brick !!! It's yours the rich man tells him.
The guy is so happy....well what do ya know. That rich guy was not lying. Yippie I have a gold brick !!!
Robert we ( you & I ) are telling people God is real. There's a heaven to gain and a hell to shun.
But if people are not willing to look under the box ( prayer ) ??? then they will never know what we are saying is fact.
There's that story of a guy playing a flute & the rats by the 1000s March to the music & fall into the harbour & drown.
The Prince of darkness is playing his flute.
The only reason we share our faith is out of love.
We know it's heaven or hell and you & I want everyone to go to heaven so...we share.
The good news there's still time and your & my hope is one day FWR members will pray.
Anyways lots of guys here said they are going fishing tomorrow. It there not a story of fishermen who got zapped by the Holy Spirit & they became fishers of men instead. ( apostles )
So.....you guys going fishing tomorrow ya better watch out the Holy Spirit just may zap ya !
Then you will be on Robert's & my side. :)
Serious but also all in fun. Sharing.
That's how we learn.
Heard the chief medical guy say possibly 100,000 to 200,000 will die in the USA and he hopes it 's less but it's just an assumption on his part.
200,000 isn't that close to Richmond's population ?
Scary.
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42781.0
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Did you even read what I posted? The scripture says "desire", not "love".
The prophecy in Daniel 11:37 clearly teaches why Trump isn't the Antichrist.
Daniel 11:37 says this:
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
Trump loves women and so do the other men in the family. He is not the Antichrist.
Sometimes I wonder if you are real or just the worst 'bot ever created
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=42781.0
Ah yes, the turd thread. Loved that one too. I wish I knew how to post memes in this thread.
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Ah yes, the turd thread. Loved that one too. I wish I knew how to post memes in this thread.
Wonder who typed that about the turd. ::)
A lesser man would hope you stepped in dog poo...not me.
May your shoes stay clean.
Yes Rodney brought up that link.
Remember it well....at the time it kinda reminded me of an Ali vs Chuvalo boxing fight.
These days I am not so defensive.
And remember anyone who stirs the poo will be put on my list to receive a cupcakes stir stick !
Sent free of charge at Christmas time autographed by " yours truly ".
Anyways CohoJake RalphH Rodney too many to name (every FWR member) you all have a great day !
Was web surfing and came across a youtube vid that's real time.
Stats on deaths in the world etc...from Covid 19
Looked at the total number & within 3 minutes it jumped up by 12 !
Kinda like the grim reaper is baiting his hook with Covid -19 & he's casting & reeling in...
Hooked another human....net ....bonk...
This virus is taking people down & out.
Girls and boys need to find a cure in lab sooner than later.
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Sometimes I wonder if you are real or just the worst 'bot every created
He's quite adept at talking out of both sides of his mouth.
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So as the topic had to do with Covid-19 and fishing opportunities, the following information has been released by the Province
As of Saturday March 28TH:
Currently, the Provincial Health Officer (PHO) has not issued any orders restricting individuals from angling and/or hunting at this time.
At all times, individuals are expected to follow the orders and guidance provided by the Provincial Health Officer (PHO).
Specific guidance for angling and hunting activities, including but not limited to:
Only fish and hunt with members of your family or others you are living with.
Maintain physical distancing (2 metres or 6 feet) from other individuals you come across.
Do not share vehicles with individuals outside of your family or others you are living with.
Fish and hunt locally.
Wash your hands frequently, especially around communal areas such as boat ramps, gates, etc.
Adhere to all travel advisories and self isolation requirements.
Adhere to all municipal, First Nation community, provincial and federal closures (e.g. parks, infrastructure, etc.).
Many BC Parks and recreation sites are closed. It is suggested to check ahead.
If you are not confident you can meet all of these conditions, please postpone your trip.
All angling and hunting regulations and licensing requirements are still in effect.
The Conservation Officer Service is continuing to operate across BC.
this is not a hoax, prank or April Fools joke.
See:
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/recreation/fishing-hunting/fishing-and-hunting-covid-19-updates
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The Antichrist will not love anyone but himself.........
.......thanks for helping my case.............jesus...love thy neighbor.....trump builds a wall......jesus..... bring unto me the children....trump puts them in cages......jesus.....turn the other cheek....trump personally attacks anyone who criticizes him...... seems anti-christ to me.....
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Sometimes I wonder if you are real or just the worst 'bot ever created
Here's the thing Ralph. If I was the only here who thinks you manipulate people's words when you reply....then maybe it just is me....but the truth is there are several people here who have called you out for manipulating and twisting their words.....so just maybe....the issue is you.
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Here's the thing Ralph. If I was the only here who thinks you manipulate people's words when you reply....then maybe it just is me....but the truth is there are several people here who have called you out for manipulating and twisting their words.....so just maybe....the issue is you.
Ok RG... however you said Trump "...loves women" then denied using "love".
Truth is to say a man "loves women" usually means he is a womanizer which means something different.
Trying to prove Trump is not the anti-christ according to scripture is downright silly in any event. Things said as sarcasm aren't meant to be taken in a literal sense. Ditto with my wondering if you are a bot.
The real issue is what I see as you often contradict yourself from post to post and even line to line then top it off by denying there is a contradiction.
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.......thanks for helping my case.............jesus...love thy neighbor.....trump builds a wall......jesus..... bring unto me the children....trump puts them in cages......jesus.....turn the other cheek....trump personally attacks anyone who criticizes him...... seems anti-christ to me.....
Gee Spoonman you know a lot of scriptures from the Good Book......was hoping ya would quote John 3:16 ;D
Well ya know the devil used scripture to tempt Jesus after fasting for 40 days.
But the devil twisted it but Jesus answered back with scripture UNTWISTED.
People accuse Trump and that he's a bad guy because of wanting to control the flow of people entering by the masses...
The big exodus from the Middle East heads for Europe....
Egypt Iran Saudi Arabia so on ...do not want the any of the exodus.
Big camps though in some countries.
If the USA openned it 's borders and said come on in...literally millions & millions & millions would flow in....and totally overwhelm the welfare system medical...and many in that crowd may be shady...
Many examples of those that crossed illegally murdered...raped...
Was not that asian girl in Burnaby killed in the park by a guy who had come quite recent from another country?
There was some ship that came to BC shores when? 8-10 yrs ago.
BC people wanted then returned to where they set sail so to speak.
If 100 ships loaded with people from another land came to the shores of Stanley Park...
They would be contained & returned.
In football a player with the ball gets tackled. No problem. But if 3 more players decide to land on the player it's a penalty.
Piling on.
Seems a lot of comments going against Robert_G views.
Really do not understand why some sure piling on ???
Everything Robert_G has posted that I've read in last few days I agree with 100%.
I 'm puzzled.
The guy's views make perfect sense.
No way Trump is anti-christ plain & simple.
Namely he put the embassy in Jerusalem recognizing Isreal as a nation.
Trump is surrounded by pastors....
Trump has gotten judges on the Supreme Court who are believers.
Trump is against abortion.
Ok anyone can bring up a guy's past mistakes failings but Trump apparently has prayed & given his life to Christ. So he's a babe in the faith & it takes time to grow in character....
Spiritual maturity.
Every believer is a work in progress.
I decrease & The Lord increase...
From glory to glory.
People were warned not to come by the 1000s to cross the border but they came anyways...
So what do you do ?
Why are they leaving their homeland in the first place ?
Gangs & crime or corrupt gov. in charge ???
So would you like the USA to invade those countries & then try to make it livable so the people will want to live there. Surely if there was less crime & jobs shelter food...they would want to stay in their own country.
As for Covid -19 I watched the 700 Club 1 hr version from 11am to noon today.
They had a story of a man who caught the virus. Not some old senior either. He was in the hospital 9 days 104 temp. and doctors told him you better say your goodbyes...
Guy thought he'd be dead by the next am.
But one of his friends told him about the medicine they give malaria or whatever...last ditch try to get well.
Anyways his doc gave him the medicine & by 4am he awoke feeling great !!!
3 days later he went home & is now isolating.
But the only way this virus infects us is it enters thru our eyes nose mouth.
If ya breath it in because it came from some else breath cough sneeze well that's a bummer.
But most it seems get infected because we rub our eye nose mouth area with the virus on our fingers hands ...
So that's why try not to rub your face area. Also wash wash wash hands....
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Good grief...
I hope no one is using these posts as advices on Covid-19. For information, get it from:
http://covid-19.bccdc.ca
Not here...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/florida-pastor-arrested-church-coronavirus-crowds
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Lmao. Fishing is still open in this province but apparently not from a boat since they've closed all the damn launches in the Lower Wasteland.
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As for Covid -19 I watched the 700 Club 1 hr version from 11am to noon today.
They had a story of a man who caught the virus. Not some old senior either. He was in the hospital 9 days 104 temp. and doctors told him you better say your goodbyes...
Guy thought he'd be dead by the next am.
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ah yes , the 700 Club, world recognized as the fount of cutting edge medical research.
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Curious what you know about the full scale lock down? I haven’t really heard anything of the sort. Wondering what exactly is coming down the pipe?
LOL
https://thebiznews.org/2020/03/24/robertson-blames-coronavirus-on-oral-sex-lady-chemicals
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Ralph is the only reason I still check this thread. He's the only one that makes any sense around here 8)
#teamralph
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LOL
https://thebiznews.org/2020/03/24/robertson-blames-coronavirus-on-oral-sex-lady-chemicals
Add Billy Graham Jr. to the list along with the Falwell guy. Maybe drinking the Miracle Water will cure all ailments
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Where do we start?
Rodney Howard Browne has a big church ...but where is his logic ?
He claims there is no problem.
99.999% of churches are closed but he somehow knows better???
Makes me shake my head.
Some churches in eastern USA have those pass poison snakes about & they quote some Bible verse...no deadly thing will hurt you or whatever...
Ya but some of those pastored died by snake bites.
Makes me shake my head.
Yes FA there's that preacher & his wife who claim miracle water will heal you plus $$$ miracles coming your way...
I actually drove to so small church in Aldergrove think it was & they were the speakers. ( before they got on tv ) there was like only 6 people there. Latter 1980s.
Only thing I remember he said was that nudity will be on prime time tv.
I thought. "No way"
But yep in 1990s ladies boobs etc were on prime time...on CBS ABC etc...movies or whatever...
But this couple speaks the language but I would not endorse them.
They were caught with speaker in ear & his wife feeding him info on a mic.
People filled in prayer card requests before the meeting & wife just got info from those cards.
Kinda like: Is there a Jane here. You have a sore right leg ...
The 700 Club USA version 60 min mon-fri has at beginning of tv show the world news ...
Yes they today brought in about the man 9 days in hospital 104 temperature and not expected to live.
Medical doctors are given the ok because of compassion to give last resort drugs that may work.
France recently said the malaria medication did help in some cases so...this guy was given chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine .
The guy woke up at 4am feeling great...came from his own mouth.
So I guess in some cases these various drug combinations are helping.
Definitely more trials...study needed.
This corona virus / Corvid -19 mutates & has various strains...
Never heard of a Billy Graham Jr.
Franklin Graham his son " yes "
But have to admit stories on some pastors /Christians can make your head spin.
Like some water wet on some rock & it looks like a shadow of Jesus face & 100s of Christians ..some Catholics it seems fall to it more than Protestants ...go there and take pictures ...or whatever.
Crazy.
Mind you I 'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water.
I know God is real. No one can take that away as had an encounter.
And no one can take away when a demonic presence came into my bedroom in 1977.
It took off after I rebuked it in Jesus Name.
Check out this vid: John Hagee Invasion of demons.
Or this vid: pop evil rock star cast out demon.
Or some good advice on this story:
Trump hands Coronavirus briefing to MyPillow Exec. who tells Americans to read Bible.
Kinda like if we are indoors isolating ya got time to read the New Testament.
Guess if Trump was the anti Christ he would tell us to read the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey.
Thought I should balance out some of your views abit.
But hey I agree you make pts that I too shake my head.
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You all need to get a life. Go fishing or something.
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Namely he put the embassy in Jerusalem recognizing Isreal as a nation. - Gave the OK to further suppress Palestinians
Trump is surrounded by pastors.... - Um, pedos
Trump has gotten judges on the Supreme Court who are believers. - Mixing church and state
Trump is against abortion. - Has no problem taking away women's rights to choose
There, fix it for ya
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpYgpKKLp-0
10:00 min mark. I'm sure the Lord will accede to his demand.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpYgpKKLp-0
10:00 min mark. I'm sure the Lord will accede to his demand.
Haha... Everybody should have faith on this bozo, he'll save us all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI
Edit: Actually the guy is smart, the millions who buy into his BS including a few here are the bozos.
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I realize we are all locked up and going stir crazy but wow, some of you really are off your rocker or just looking to argue and ignore the words being written. Get a life. Go fishing. Go spend time with your lady. Make the kids walk around the block if you need some alone time. Go take a date, find a spot with no people, drive there, sit in your car with your spouse and watch the stars. Something to get out of the house and stop going crazy.
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Ralph is the only reason I still check this thread. He's the only one that makes any sense around here 8)
#teamralph
You better go get tested. I’m quite sure your extremely high fever has made you delirious.
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I realize we are all locked up and going stir crazy but wow, some of you really are off your rocker or just looking to argue and ignore the words being written.
This.
Religion doesn't belong here in a FISHING site!
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This.
Religion doesn't belong here in a FISHING site!
Would add politics as well. At least the politics outside that dealing with fishing. People have different opinions for different reasons. And most of the time these days, it isn't a healthy debate, it is nasty and horrible and nobody is going to change anybody's opinion. So why ruin this site with this crap?
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You better go get tested. I’m quite sure your extremely high fever has made you delirious.
+1 on that one buddy.
This.
Religion doesn't belong here in a FISHING site!
Would add politics as well. At least the politics outside that dealing with fishing. People have different opinions for different reasons. And most of the time these days, it isn't a healthy debate, it is nasty and horrible and nobody is going to change anybody's opinion. So why ruin this site with this crap?
Open your eyes. Outside this topic, the entire forum hasn't had more than a dozen posts in the last week (outside the buy/sell).
It's ok to let loose a bit when things are quiet.
I am suprised Rod doesn't have a category for 'off topic' discussions. Most message boards have them.
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Thanks Blood_ Orange! I enjoys your posts as well.
Thanks to you too iblly. It's nice to be noticed.
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+1 on that one buddy.
Open your eyes. Outside this topic, the entire forum hasn't had more than a dozen posts in the last week (outside the buy/sell).
It's ok to let loose a bit when things are quiet.
I am suprised Rod doesn't have a category for 'off topic' discussions. Most message boards have them.
Funny, there have been at least a dozen posts in the NHL thread alone. You want to discuss politics, religion, whatever, fine but start a new thread. I don't care if you want to discuss it in an appropriate thread, just don't subject everyone wanting to know the latest on fishing closures and updates to this because people can't control themselves.
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i pity those who have to live with robert and aboater, must be a real joy
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+1 on that one buddy.
Open your eyes. Outside this topic, the entire forum hasn't had more than a dozen posts in the last week (outside the buy/sell).
It's ok to let loose a bit when things are quiet.
I am suprised Rod doesn't have a category for 'off topic' discussions. Most message boards have them.
Off topic "discussion area"
Boy I'd post to that area at less 1x a month & stir the pot or knock the bees nest.
People do not like that new flashlight tac light or whatever shined in their face in so dark room.
Guess it 's the same when guys like me share.
Called bozo ...
Think it all started to go off topic when I stated the 700 Club had a authority guest on...topic Covid 19 and then comments were made against Christians ...then who comes to re act...me.
But hey after called bozo ...
Plus the comments religion does not belong on FWR ...
I'll not go with what was planned to comment.
Had about 100 very famous sports entertainers buissness ex porn stars ex Hell's Angel bikers ex mafia ...who had a real encounter with God but will not mention all 100 I had planned to put in this comment...narrow it down.
There's 1000s of famous people...but...here's a few:
Nick Vujicic ( limbless guy. ) Brian Welch of Korn, Marc Farner Grand Funk Railroad, Alice Cooper,Charlie Danials(country.) Dave Ellefien (Megadeth)Julius Erving Dr J (NBA) Joe Gibbs (coach) Gary Carter(baseball) pin ball Clemens ( cfl. ) Jeff Gordon ( car racer) Fred Rogers ( Mr Rogers)Patrica Heaton ( every body loves Raymond ......hey everybody loves A-Boater ::) ) Chuck Norris (karate) Steve Harvey
Mark Wahlberg (actor) Denzel Washington ( actor) Evel Knievil (stuntman) Col. Saunders KFC Dave Thomas ( Wendy's) tons of pro wrestlers are now believers, Walter Peyton RB Bears ( tons on NFL players) infamous Susan Atkins ( Mansion family )Lou Gramm (Foreigner) Cissy Houston & her daughter Whitney, Elvis, Carrie Underwood ( & her NHL player spouse. ) Tom Hanks. ( actor ) Steve McQueen ( actor) Johnny Cash , Roy Clark ( singer/ great musican ) Cliff Richards..Mickey Mantle( baseball )Paul Overstreet, Dolly Parton, Charlie Pride, Hank Williams , Brad Paisley,George Jones,Oak Ridge Boys...tons more famous country singers..Candace Cameron Bure...yes that actress married Bure 1 of 2 famous NHL players,Justin Bieber & his pretty wife ( his wife dad is a famous actor...her dad & mom are strong believers ) .... Interstate Battery Norm Miller, founder of Heinez Ketchup, founder of Walmart...George Foreman boxer ..Simone Biles gymnist gold metals...that family on tv reality...sell duck caller ...Duck Dynasty is it? Also Home Depot ( co founder)
You may think no way...Evel Knievel or George Jones or Alice Cooper are Christians !!!
They raised hell ! Yes that 's true but as they got older wiser ..each guy got very serious in their faith.
So anyways have a list of 100's & 100's but just narrowed down to these ....
I bet if one of these guys/gals you know of ...shared there faith with you maybe you'd listen.
But when it comes from a Joe Blow like me...I'm a bozo.
( when I read that comment I cried for 3 hours ! ::) )
But anyways I'm done.
In fact from here on in I'll never ever talk politics or religion again. Promise.
But if Rodney creates an off topic discussion...that's different. ( maybe 1x month ;D )
But it would be hard for Rodney to put that in to FWR as his website is already made.
Only time I'd express a thought is...wish all a Happy Easter & Merry Christmas !
It 's not about me trying to be right or you being wrong...
It's not about arguing ... My only desire is to share when life is life " rubber hits the road " like in these times...with this virus....society shut down...
Isolating....crazy times.... I know this very evil power ( demon. ) came into my room in 1977 & it took off after I commanded it to leave using Jesus Name. So yes that's why I share with yous. Trying to give a loving warning. I do not want one FWR member to .....after they kick the bucket.
I do not want any of you to say. : " that A-Boater did not even try to warn us that selfish SOB !
Anyways...
One MD commented today that authority said yesterday 100,000 to 200,000 may die in the USA but this MD stated it is possible 1 million in the USA could die as right now today the numbers are going straight up.
So let's get back to fishing topics ....and Covid -19
No more politics or religion from me. Over & out.
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i pity those who have to live with robert and aboater, must be a real joy
I pity those have to make personal attacks on people and their families.
Like really? The discussion may be lively and lot's of difference of opinion, but there is no need for that.
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Funny, there have been at least a dozen posts in the NHL thread alone.
What is there to talk about?
I'd love to talk about hockey, but again....what on earth is there to talk about? Anyone thinking we're getting the season finished is kidding themselves.
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Godly Robert has never attacked anyone on the interweb LOL! Ralph would agree. ;D
someone translate A-boaters post pls? Google translate doesnt seem to work again
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i pity those who have to live with robert and aboater, must be a real joy
Put on list for free stick to stir the poo...cupcake mixing spoon too.
Expect autographed stick around Christmas if any of us are still alive or post office still operating. ::)
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Godly Robert has never attacked anyone on the interweb LOL! Ralph would agree. ;D
someone translate A-boaters post pls? Google translate doesnt seem to work again
Taking a jab at someone is not the same as a personal attack.
Please quote a personal attack I've made to someone here and their family and I will apologize.
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I pity those have to make personal attacks on people and their families.
Attacks? If anything, they're expressing sympathy for your family :P
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Taking a jab at someone is not the same as a personal attack.
Please quote a personal attack I've made to someone here and their family and I will apologize.
examples:
As a Christian myself, I don't agree that a pastor should tell or preach, or try to manipulate who Christians should vote for. Anyone who is a devout Christian already knows you don't vote for Killary Clinton or anyone else on the baby murdering progressive left...so what the pastor said was actually quite redundant.
Whether or not that is true....I'd like to know what information God gave you that gives you the inside knowledge to another man's soul. Please enlighten me.
Again as for the pastor saying to vote for Trump....what he should have said was to not vote for Killary Clinton. She is the devil incarnate. Christians are not to support the devil.
Here's the thing Ralph. If I was the only here who thinks you manipulate people's words when you reply....then maybe it just is me....but the truth is there are several people here who have called you out for manipulating and twisting their words.....so just maybe....the issue is you.
...oh and as far as anything I have ever said well "it was just a jab", personal or not. ::) ;D
I am willing to let bygones be bygones. It's just the internet after all.
anyway ... I had to go back several pages to find the "Kilary" quote. What a mess this thread has been made of.
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examples:
...oh and as far as anything I have ever said well "it was just a jab", personal or not. ::) ;D
I am willing to let bygones be bygones. It's just the internet after all.
anyway ... I had to go back several pages to find the "Kilary" quote. What a mess this thread has been made of.
Killary Clinton is not on this message board....and she is the devil incarnate....its not a personal attack when its the truth.
Your second quote is not a personal attack. It is merely an observation of factual evidence....that others here would agree with.
A personal attack would be saying something like 'your mother wears army boots'
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Your second quote is not a personal attack. It is merely an observation of factual evidence....that others here would agree with.
A personal attack would be saying something like 'your mother wears army boots'
DAANG, I just noticed Robert surpassed 500 posts in this thread. Wish I had caught it when it happened, we could have had a party.
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DAANG, I just noticed Robert surpassed 500 posts in this thread. Wish I had caught it when it happened, we could have had a party.
With candles & cake & ice cream !!!
I'll go but is it ok if I say grace before we eat cake?
Hope there's no booze & pot & that GI ration music ....
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DAANG, I just noticed Robert surpassed 500 posts in this thread. Wish I had caught it when it happened, we could have had a party.
I'm actually well over 1000 posts. You have no idea how many of my posts have been deleted by Rod.
I think I've been here for 14 years.
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Please quote a personal attack I've made to someone here and their family and I will apologize.
A quote from this thread, or from the somewhat recent past?
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What is there to talk about?
I'd love to talk about hockey, but again....what on earth is there to talk about? Anyone thinking we're getting the season finished is kidding themselves.
For a while it was about the season, it has morphed into guys talking about their life and how they are getting through although there is still some hockey talk going on. At least here they are replaying old games, all ones we win which is awesome. There is plenty else to discuss too if we wanted. For instance, during the shutout shortened season, the NHL allowed one contract to be nullified (paid out but wouldn't count against cap space) essentially each of the next two years. They could do something like that again and if they do, would the Leafs try and let their whole team go? LOL, just kidding, but there is stuff to discuss.
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Killary Clinton is not on this message board....and she is the devil incarnate....its not a personal attack when its the truth.
Your second quote is not a personal attack. It is merely an observation of factual evidence....that others here would agree with.
A personal attack would be saying something like 'your mother wears army boots'
Hilary is the "devil incarnate" is fact or based on factual evidence? My experience is it is impossible to have a rational conversation with you. Any reasonable person would agree that H Clinton is a person and calling her the "devil incarnate" is a personal attack.
To the extent I may have manipulated and twisted peoples words is also not a personal attack. At worst it is using a logical fallacy in an argument. Something I know you never do! [sarcasm]
I think it's long past time this particular thread be locked!
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To get back to the point, here is an article about how COVID-19 is crushing fishing charters on the Washington Coast:
https://www.chinookobserver.com/news/sinking-feeling-envelops-charter-fleet-amid-fishing-closure/article_74095e18-7375-11ea-8f23-4b6019d40376.html?fbclid=IwAR3JTwthqhCdJ8KBHTaLhJIQ8jG4DkCC5dEkQ0b9WsOKhl24n6_ncPE0HFI (https://www.chinookobserver.com/news/sinking-feeling-envelops-charter-fleet-amid-fishing-closure/article_74095e18-7375-11ea-8f23-4b6019d40376.html?fbclid=IwAR3JTwthqhCdJ8KBHTaLhJIQ8jG4DkCC5dEkQ0b9WsOKhl24n6_ncPE0HFI)
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Went food shopping / picking up my mom's meds...it's a first...line up outside.
One person comes out another allowed to go in.
Again I just felt like a zebra crossing a river with crocs...
Is the virus present? Did someone cough or sneeze in this part of store & Covid 19 on surfaces...
Did I get any virus ...being in this public place...if so it may take even 9 days to even have symptoms or something like that...
One worker in the store had a spray bottle & rag & was spraying disinfectant on a handle of a freezer door.
Guess he was bored or tired of walking around ...he stood there for 15 minutes disinfecting that same handle !!! He still was there at that spot after my groceries were paid.
Ha !
Guess that handle had lots of Covid 19 on it.
But the numbers of people dying are going thru the roof !
Europe is so bad ...maybe refugees may say...we're leaving & going back to Syria or wherever...Libya ..
Too much virus in Europe let's va moose.
USA experts have comments like 100,000 -200,000 projected to die !
Some report even 1 million.
Then even heard 2 million.
Gee we have it good so far compared to what is happening else where.
This Covid 19 must be spreading to the western ports / harbours along the west coast Washington Oregon California thus affecting marinas / ports of call. Everything is being affected by this virus.
It's got to get better because if it keeps getting worst & worst & for a long time ...hate to think of it.
The chinookobserver article is heart breaking. The bills keep coming but they are shut down.
How do these guys sleep at night.
Like he said...impossible to keep your 6 ft distance on a charter boat.
Put up a plastic shield on boat. Capt stays on this side ...sports guys/gals stay on that side ::)
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-memo-to-the-rest-of-canada-how-dr-bonnie-henry-and-bc-are-getting/
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To get back to the point, here is an article about how COVID-19 is crushing fishing charters on the Washington Coast:
https://www.chinookobserver.com/news/sinking-feeling-envelops-charter-fleet-amid-fishing-closure/article_74095e18-7375-11ea-8f23-4b6019d40376.html?fbclid=IwAR3JTwthqhCdJ8KBHTaLhJIQ8jG4DkCC5dEkQ0b9WsOKhl24n6_ncPE0HFI (https://www.chinookobserver.com/news/sinking-feeling-envelops-charter-fleet-amid-fishing-closure/article_74095e18-7375-11ea-8f23-4b6019d40376.html?fbclid=IwAR3JTwthqhCdJ8KBHTaLhJIQ8jG4DkCC5dEkQ0b9WsOKhl24n6_ncPE0HFI)
And more fish will get back to our rivers I guess, maybe fish farms will shut down too.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-memo-to-the-rest-of-canada-how-dr-bonnie-henry-and-bc-are-getting/
It makes me happy to live in a part of the world where sanity and reason are the norm. Here's how we are doing across the border: https://theweek.com/articles/905612/washington-gov-jay-inslee-what-real-coronavirus-leadership-looks-like (https://theweek.com/articles/905612/washington-gov-jay-inslee-what-real-coronavirus-leadership-looks-like)
When this all is behind us and the border opens, I look forward to gathering with some of you around a campfire and drinking coffee will waiting for sunrise on the river.
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And more fish will get back to our rivers I guess, maybe fish farms will shut down too.
It has hurt fish farms as well - apparently like 20% of salmon is for the restaurant market, and people aren't buying more of it to cook at home.
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And more fish will get back to our rivers I guess,
You guessed wrong. Natives will still be fishing...that is a fact....and there will be no one policing them either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ozs9pQqlg
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There ain’t one world leader who did anything extra ordinary to stop covid coming into their country and that’s a fact. Except Rocket Man
We need a non related fishing section. Thank you
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There ain’t one world leader who did anything extra ordinary to stop covid coming into their country and that’s a fact. Except Rocket Man
We need a non related fishing section. Thank you
WRONG !
when China first had its outbreak, Russia closed its massive boarder with China and only had 2 infections tied people in that region. Al of Russias cases are in the west. They were all imported from Europe. Also note that Singapore and Taiwan closed their boarders with China and avoided catastrophe at the beginning as well. Although they do have cases of COVID now, they are also imports from Europe. They avoided an outbreak cases by infected Chinese nationals. Even local governments in Canada have managed to keep COVID 19 away ( for the time being ). NWT have no active cases now and Nunavit has never had a case. Both territories closed thei boarders early.
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While they closed the Chinese border Jan 30th, Russia didn't close it's borders until March 30th. On the 14th it's closed it's borders with Norway and Poland. Prior to that it pursued a policy of supervising (harassing) Chinese nationals living in the country.
South Korea enacted border restrictions, not a closure on March 17th. March 23rd it issued a travel advisory to all residents of the country to cancel or post-phone out of country travel. In early March it had a massive of spike of case and then relied not on travel restrictions but on having residents change their behaviour! It's first case was identified in January and then it acted fast to bring in widespread testing
Taiwan and Singapore are Islands so technically have no borders so entry ports are limited.
Singapore had it's 1st case of Covid-19 in December. Singapore. It increased border checks but did not close it's ports of entry until the last few weeks. "...has kept coronavirus in check through aggressive testing methods, intensive tracing of carriers and clear public messaging. Throughout, schools have remained open and businesses operational. "
Taiwan like Singapore acted fast, increased border scrutiny and traced carriers from patients who tested positive.
Almost every country that has controlled it's outbreaks has seen a higher use of masks by the general public and quicker shut down of public activities than those who have seen massive increases. Tracing carriers and putting them in quarantine is another successful strategy. Which of these factors contributed most to their success isn't known.
Also important to know all of these countries have Covid-19. Covid-19 is in the Yukon and the NWT. Right now Covid-19 infection rates in Canada as a whole are likely much less than 3%. Of over 215,000 tested people in Canada about 3% have been positive. Tests are not done at random but are directed at people who are systematic or have been exposed to those who are.
https://www.globalgovernmentforum.com/lessons-from-the-frontline-how-to-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-travel-restrictions-border-shutdowns-country-200318091505922.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection.html?topic=tilelink
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ozs9pQqlg
amazing some people still believe in this guy. trump makes george w bush look like einstein. at least george was a decent person, had morals and wasn't a con man
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What Mr Pres. Trump was before ...he is not today!
He's a changed man.
Hey we are all projects...no one has arrived at the top.
Let's all strive to be a better person tomorrow.
Like the Elvis song goes I love you today but I love you less today than I will tomorrow...or however that song goes.
People do not like Trump because he is surrounding himself with those. " religious fanatics" ::)
They challenge people foundations..No I'm from a monkey. I did not come from the garden of Eden.
That 's my take.
If you do not like Mr Pres Trump "Your fired"
Remember the first stories about Covid 19 ?
The care home outbreak in Kirkland Wa.
2/3 of the people got infected.
A senior got infected in that facility named Geneva Wood.
90 yrs old. She was in there because she was recovering from a stroke. She was planning to go home or wherever she lived ( with family maybe ) but then Bingo !!! Corvid 19.
But she beat it !!!
90 yrs old.
She claims her prayers & faith was the only reason she recovered. Claims at night she felt God's Presence "big time " in her room.
Anyways regardless of the story & how she recovered it just shows a 90'yr old getting Covid 19 can best it !!! Unreal.
PM Trudeau says we are going out shopping too much...well limit of 1 milk 1 egg package ...guess we have to return .
Or we can give 1 inch level of milk in a glass daily.
Fry 1 egg & cut it up in 4.
Pres. of Philippines says if people will not social distance then the police will start shooting !!!
Those bangs are not fire crackers " Run for your lives"
Read stories on how dogs can have Covid 19 but do not get sick.
They can pass it to humans.
So if out walking your dog think a good idea let them keep social distancing from other dogs.
Infected dog can give it to your dog.
Now we hear people that are feeling healthy and showing no symptoms can be infected and passing Covid 19 to others.
Yep we are all zebras crossing the croc infested river when we go for groceries.
Wash your hands wash your hands wash your hands.
Do not touch face area. Even if a big mosquito is on your nose.
We may not have bullets shot at us like the threat by Philippine Pres but check the news of many younger people dying.
45 & 61 yrs old on & on...
Stay safe folks.
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In fact from here on in I'll never ever talk politics or religion again. Promise.
What Mr Pres. Trump was before ...he is not today!
He's a changed man.
Hey we are all projects...no one has arrived at the top.
Let's all strive to be a better person tomorrow.
Like the Elvis song goes I love you today but I love you less today than I will tomorrow...or however that song goes.
People do not like Trump because he is surrounding himself with those. " religious fanatics" ::)
They challenge people foundations..No I'm from a monkey. I did not come from the garden of Eden.
That 's my take.
If you do not like Mr Pres Trump "Your fired"
Remember the first stories about Covid 19 ?
The care home outbreak in Kirkland Wa.
2/3 of the people got infected.
A senior got infected in that facility named Geneva Wood.
90 yrs old. She was in there because she was recovering from a stroke. She was planning to go home or wherever she lived ( with family maybe ) but then Bingo !!! Corvid 19.
But she beat it !!!
90 yrs old.
She claims her prayers & faith was the only reason she recovered. Claims at night she felt God's Presence "big time " in her room.
Anyways regardless of the story & how she recovered it just shows a 90'yr old getting Covid 19 can best it !!! Unreal.
PM Trudeau says we are going out shopping too much...well limit of 1 milk 1 egg package ...guess we have to return .
Or we can give 1 inch level of milk in a glass daily.
Fry 1 egg & cut it up in 4.
Pres. of Philippines says if people will not social distance then the police will start shooting !!!
Those bangs are not fire crackers " Run for your lives"
Read stories on how dogs can have Covid 19 but do not get sick.
They can pass it to humans.
So if out walking your dog think a good idea let them keep social distancing from other dogs.
Infected dog can give it to your dog.
Now we hear people that are feeling healthy and showing no symptoms can be infected and passing Covid 19 to others.
Yep we are all zebras crossing the croc infested river when we go for groceries.
Wash your hands wash your hands wash your hands.
Do not touch face area. Even if a big mosquito is on your nose.
We may not have bullets shot at us like the threat by Philippine Pres but check the news of many younger people dying.
45 & 61 yrs old on & on...
Stay safe folks.
Seek help.
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So much for being able to post your own opinions or ideas. You need help. Leave the man alone.
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lol did the thread about fred's truck in the impound lot get deleted
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What Mr Pres. Trump was before ...he is not today!
He's a changed man.
Since when does a leopard change their spots ?
No Pastor, Rabi, Mullah, Evangelists or Preachers ever saved patients. Doctors and healthcare workers did.
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lol did the thread about fred's truck in the impound lot get deleted
Looks like it, lol!
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So much for being able to post your own opinions or ideas. You need help. Leave the man alone.
Thank you.
Was just giving what I observe. But hey we all can live & let live but we can agree to disagree. But if we see things dif. does that mean we need to seek help?
A Pres who is new and improved like Tide soap just keeps being better soap on commercial.
But thought a 90 yr old recovering from Covid 19 ...
Who would of ever thought.
As far as I will not mention anything about religion / politics ever again.
That's true.
There are so many recent neg. posts on Trump so just gave my take why I think people do not like him.
Mentioning this 90 yr old my main pt to just sharing how a 90 yr old can recover from Covid 19 ...it 's not a death sentence.
In reading her story was just claiming what she said. She did not say any pastor healed her. She says she prayed & felt God's Presence in her room.
Guess we can not tell her other wise.
But yes medical staff did their thing & thanks to them too.
( not trying to push my personal views in my recent posts. Just observations )
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Since when does a leopard change their spots ?
No Pastor, Rabi, Mullah, Evangelists or Preachers ever saved patients. Doctors and healthcare workers did.
I don't think Trump has had many Rabbis or Imam's in the Oval office for a consult. That wouldn't appeal to his base.
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So much for being able to post your own opinions or ideas. You need help. Leave the man alone.
does freedom of speech extend to verbal diarrhea? (or written as the case may be)
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say what ever you want but expect to be challenge if your "opinion" does not match the facts. facts dont care about outside parameters like religion or feelings.
"Difference Between Fact and Opinion" (post) is a useful handout (or lesson skeleton) to differentiate between "fact" and "opinion," to start a discussion about texts and/or assignments, and to explain to your students why simply asserting something does not make it so.
1. Basics
a. "Facts and opinions ... have a huge difference in their meanings."
"Whether a statement is a fact or an opinion depends on the validity of the statement."
"[A] fact refers to the something true or real, which is backed by evidence, documentation, etc."
"[An] opinion is what a person believes or thinks about something."
b. "In finer terms, a fact is a proven truth, whereas opinion is a personal view that represents the outlook of an individual, which may or may not be based on the fact."
2. Content: Fact Vs Opinion
Comparison Chart: Fact = something that can be verified or proved to be true. Opinion = a judgement or belief about something. Fact based on observation or research. Opinion based on assumption or personal view. Fact = objective reality. Opinion = subjective statement. Fact can be verified; opinion cannot. Fact represents something that really happened. Opinion represents a perception about something. Fact is universal. Opinion differs from person to person. Facts shown with unbiased words. Opinions expressed with biased words. Fact is not debatable. Opinion is debatable. Fact has power to influence others; opinion does not.
3. Definition of Fact
a. "[A] fact is something, that has actually taken place or known to have existed, which can be validated with pieces of evidence."
"[Facts] are strictly defined and can be measured, observed, and proven."
"[A fact] refers to something that makes statements true and [is] used in connection with research and study."
b. "A fact can be an event or information, based on real occurrences which can be tested through verifiability, i.e. they are supported by proofs, statistics, documentation, etc."
4 Definition of Opinion
a. "‘- pinion’ is defined as the personal view or judgment about a subject, that may or may not be substantiated by the facts or positive knowledge."
"In other words, an opinion is an inconclusive statement, used in subjective matters, which cannot be proved true or false."
"It is what a person thinks or feels about something or someone."
b. "Opinion is highly influenced by a person’s feelings, thoughts, perspective, desires, attitude, experiences, understanding, beliefs, values, etc., which cannot be tested by concrete evidence."
"Therefore, due to individual differences, every person’s opinion on a particular matter [may] also [be] different."
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Since when does a leopard change their spots ?
No Pastor, Rabi, Mullah, Evangelists or Preachers ever saved patients. Doctors and healthcare workers did.
Leopard changing their spots...paint maybe ?
But heard some Lion & Canuck fans all their life ...moved east & now cheer on the Argos & Leafs!!! ;D
Now if that can happen anything is possible.
Guess we should not be so closed minded...but leave open the possibility people can change " their spots" .
Chris go check FA blood pressure..he must be fuming Lion /Canuck fans can become Argo/Leaf fans.
Bigblockfox I agree what you say about opinion vs facts.
Because we think about ideas it just does not make them so...
Many scientists / NASA have a faith.
Just an observation.
Going out now...zebra going into croc filled river.
Shoppers drugs has discount for us seniors on Thurs.
Get that 1 doz egg so I do not have to cut my fried egg into 4 pieces.
I want at least 2 eggs daily.
Mind you 2 wks ago a Shoppers Drugs said only 1 milk limit.
1 week ago at a dif. Shoppers Drugs it was 4 milk limit. " try to figure that one out!!!"
As strange as wear a mask or not wear a mask the powers that be are wishy washy about.
Think the mask making co. would say : everyone wear masks .... $$$$$$
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does freedom of speech extend to verbal diarrhea? (or written as the case may be)
More akin to stream of consciousness. Perhaps A-Boater is the James Joyce of the 21st century
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say what ever you want but expect to be challenge if your "opinion" does not match the facts. facts dont care about outside parameters like religion or feelings.
"Difference Between Fact and Opinion" (post) is a useful handout (or lesson skeleton) to differentiate between "fact" and "opinion," to start a discussion about texts and/or assignments, and to explain to your students why simply asserting something does not make it so.
1. Basics
a. "Facts and opinions ... have a huge difference in their meanings."
"Whether a statement is a fact or an opinion depends on the validity of the statement."
"[A] fact refers to the something true or real, which is backed by evidence, documentation, etc."
"[An] opinion is what a person believes or thinks about something."
b. "In finer terms, a fact is a proven truth, whereas opinion is a personal view that represents the outlook of an individual, which may or may not be based on the fact."
2. Content: Fact Vs Opinion
Comparison Chart: Fact = something that can be verified or proved to be true. Opinion = a judgement or belief about something. Fact based on observation or research. Opinion based on assumption or personal view. Fact = objective reality. Opinion = subjective statement. Fact can be verified; opinion cannot. Fact represents something that really happened. Opinion represents a perception about something. Fact is universal. Opinion differs from person to person. Facts shown with unbiased words. Opinions expressed with biased words. Fact is not debatable. Opinion is debatable. Fact has power to influence others; opinion does not.
3. Definition of Fact
a. "[A] fact is something, that has actually taken place or known to have existed, which can be validated with pieces of evidence."
"[Facts] are strictly defined and can be measured, observed, and proven."
"[A fact] refers to something that makes statements true and [is] used in connection with research and study."
b. "A fact can be an event or information, based on real occurrences which can be tested through verifiability, i.e. they are supported by proofs, statistics, documentation, etc."
4 Definition of Opinion
a. "‘- pinion’ is defined as the personal view or judgment about a subject, that may or may not be substantiated by the facts or positive knowledge."
"In other words, an opinion is an inconclusive statement, used in subjective matters, which cannot be proved true or false."
"It is what a person thinks or feels about something or someone."
b. "Opinion is highly influenced by a person’s feelings, thoughts, perspective, desires, attitude, experiences, understanding, beliefs, values, etc., which cannot be tested by concrete evidence."
"Therefore, due to individual differences, every person’s opinion on a particular matter [may] also [be] different."
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Wow that’s impressive. Does any of it mean someone should be told to “seek help” or be told they have “verbal diarrhea” ?
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Wow that’s impressive. Does any of it mean someone should be told to “seek help” or be told they have “verbal diarrhea” ?
Thanks again.
Nice to have those who keep it civil.
Me I am not going to call anyone bozos or seek help on & on...
If those who have a faith would be lined up for 50,000 miles waiting to see the doc seeking help.
But hey it does not bug me one bit.
I like people to express their true critical feelings rather than gossip behind my back.
At least so far I'm not tar or feathered or nailed to the cross.
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More akin to stream of consciousness. Perhaps A-Boater is the James Joyce of the 21st century
LOL! Not everyone's consciousness works in streams.Quality is always a matter of opinion.
Freedom of speech does not include saying whatever one wants, where one wants. Much of what A-Boater writes is neither fact or opinion.
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LOL! Not everyone's consciousness works in streams.Quality is always a matter of opinion.
Freedom of speech does not include saying whatever one wants, where one wants. Much of what A-Boater writes is neither fact or opinion.
The 90 yr old lady did recover from Covid 19.
That's a fact.
Not a death sentence....hey if she recovered how old are you ?
I 'm 65 Ralph ...how old are you? Guess your in 50s 60s (do I hear over 100)
Regardless if she can recover you & I have good chance to recover being much younger.
Clap clap ! Fish along time is my wish for you...and all at FWR.
But to show you how smart I am .....
I bought a small bottle of hand sanitizer & at home opened the cap & then wanted so drop or 2 on my hands.
No drops came out of the bottle.
What!!!! ????
I could see the hand sanitizer in the bottle but it seemed not to want to come out ???
After 1 hr. pondering & feeling of disappointment ...hey I thought to un screw the cap. Hey there's a paper seal. Peeled it off.
Now let's try this again.
Will any sanitizer come out this time?
Yes it came out.
See how smart I am ::)
Point being when scientists/NASA/teachers/ very skilled wkrs have a faith....you have to conclude that very smart people do have a faith.
Are they nuts?
In response to your pts.
Just an observation "of course".
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Lol A-b. Don't get me wrong you can write what you like but I don't feel you have picked the right venue for your "observations".
I am not a Christian and I don't believe in any particular version of God or religion. Neither am I an agnostic.
On my wife's side of the family, some people are very religious and spiritual Her maternal Grandfather was a minister and 2 of her Uncles were as well. Neither met the Grand-dad but met the Uncles. I have very great respect for them and their spiritual integrity. One of the Uncles, his son joined the Hare Krishna organization. He later left or was pushed out in a 'purge'. He is still spiritual, spends 1/2 of every year in India and takes lessons and mediates with a Guru. I admire his pursuit of a near pure spiritual life, something most Christians don't do but not some of his ideas.
There's many kinds of Christianity. Some I respect, some I do not. I have heard many religious scientists speak and read what they wrote. They don't make a big deal of their faith. They don't have a problem reconciling it to Science or vice versa. Ditto for many of the 100 you listed in an earlier post. Just because they are Christians does not mean they agree with you or the Ministries you seem to be a disciple of or would appreciate your listing them in your post.
Christians have debated the significance of the Bible since it was committed to paper. What it means to be a Christian was defined at the Council of Nicaea after the Roman Emperor Constantine exclaimed he couldn't stand to have all his Bishops wasting all their time arguing about the nature of Christ. Constantine was there, with his bodyguard, to ensure they came to a decision.
About 100 years later the Christian philosopher Augustine of Hippo (also known as St. Augustine) wrote that anyone who believed the Bible was to be taken as literal fact, was a fool. It was about spiritual truth. For close to 2,000 years that was more or less the case. The Bible as literal fact really just dates back a 150 years ago to some denominations in the US and that's about it.
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Thanks RalphH for your explaining how ya feel.
I just was reading recent posts ...and many were against Trump so...
Gave my view why I think a % really attack the guy.
As for the 90yr old lady who beat Covid 19 in Washington State thought it was a story worthy of read.
But Trump has been attacked from his first day in office right till now...
Non stop.
I see the good he has done.
But again I'm bias.
RalphH your just going to have to lift up the box to see if there's a gold bar there or not.
But was surprised to find hand sanitizer for sale today in one store.
But eggs sold out....
Other store the same eggs sold out.
Breakfast 1 fried egg. Lunch 1 boiled egg supper 1 scrambled egg bedtime 1 raw egg ( in glass stirred with beer. ) ....not my menu but are people just eating eggs or what ?
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Lol A-b. Don't get me wrong you can write what you like but I don't feel you have picked the right venue for your "observations".
I am not a Christian and I don't believe in any particular version of God or religion. Neither am I an agnostic.
Then what are you, because all that's left is 'atheist'
On my wife's side of the family, some people are very religious and spiritual Her maternal Grandfather was a minister and 2 of her Uncles were as well. Neither met the Grand-dad but met the Uncles. I have very great respect for them and their spiritual integrity. One of the Uncles, his son joined the Hare Krishna organization. He later left or was pushed out in a 'purge'. He is still spiritual, spends 1/2 of every year in India and takes lessons and mediates with a Guru.
I admire his pursuit of a near pure spiritual life, something most Christians don't do but not some of his ideas.
Hare Krishna is nothing more than Hindu mysticism and is in no way the pursuit of a near pure spiritual life. In order to pursue a near pure spiritual life, one most pursue a pure and holy God. The Lord Jesus and only Jesus fits the bill. Nor is there any spiritual integrity involved in Hare Krishna . Their pursuit is in their own self discipline and near perfection when they should be humbling themselves before the one true God who created them and sustains them.
There's many kinds of Christianity. Some I respect, some I do not. I have heard many religious scientists speak and read what they wrote. They don't make a big deal of their faith. They don't have a problem reconciling it to Science or vice versa.
Real Christians don't reconcile their faith to science. Real Christians reconcile science to the Word of God. Although many will disagree, but the bible and science get along very well if studied without pretence, but instead is studied in the right context.
Christians have debated the significance of the Bible since it was committed to paper.
Wrong...Christians may disagree and debate on some of the less known none-core doctrines and less studied parts of scripture, but absolutely no true Christian would EVER debate the significance of the bible. The Word of God is inerrant and divinely inspired by God Himself. Jesus Himself taught that hostility towards the Holy Scriptures meant that you never belonged to God.
What it means to be a Christian was defined at the Council of Nicaea after the Roman Emperor Constantine exclaimed he couldn't stand to have all his Bishops wasting all their time arguing about the nature of Christ. Constantine was there, with his bodyguard, to ensure they came to a decision.
Wrong again...although some Roman Catholics may agree with you, but were talking about two different religions now. I'm talking about true Christianity. What it means to be a Christian was defined by Jesus Christ Himself.... and a few decades later it was explained and taught in greater detail by the apostles including (and especially) Paul. I'm not saying what Jesus taught was incomplete….just that the Apostles were teaching and preaching in different parts of the world and therefore presented the gospel for the proper audience. This was completed before the end of the 1st century AD....more than 2 centuries before Constantine was out of diapers. Constantine was full of himself just like every other dictator who ruled the Roman Empire. All scripture was completed by 95AD at the latest and everything a Christian needed to know for their salvation is in that scripture. Nothing written after that date was ever canonized...not even by Constantine himself.
About 100 years later the Christian philosopher Augustine of Hippo (also known as St. Augustine) wrote that anyone who believed the Bible was to be taken as literal fact, was a fool. It was about spiritual truth. For close to 2,000 years that was more or less the case. The Bible as literal fact really just dates back a 150 years ago to some denominations in the US and that's about it.
Any Christian who studies the bible with desire to understand it, knows when it is literal and when it is not. It's not difficult for those who have asked God to give them a discerning mind.
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my gods the best, no my god is the best. i think this is how wars get started.
the very fact that you think your gods the best shows you how far you've gone down that rabbit hole. kinda sad actually.
its so much easier just being an atheist. all these stupids rules and what not don't apply to us. cant eat pork, go to church sundays, have to ware things on our head and so on.
one thing i will add is that some religious organizations do a lot of good work. to them i tip my hat.
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Then what are you, because all that's left is 'atheist'
Hare Krishna is nothing more than Hindu mysticism and is in no way the pursuit of a near pure spiritual life. In order to pursue a near pure spiritual life, one most pursue a pure and holy God. The Lord Jesus and only Jesus fits the bill. Nor is there any spiritual integrity involved in Hare Krishna . Their pursuit is in their own self discipline and near perfection when they should be humbling themselves before the one true God who created them and sustains them.
Real Christians don't reconcile their faith to science. Real Christians reconcile science to the Word of God. Although many will disagree, but the bible and science get along very well if studied without pretence, but instead is studied in the right context.
Wrong...Christians may disagree and debate on some of the less known none-core doctrines and less studied parts of scripture, but absolutely no true Christian would EVER debate the significance of the bible. The Word of God is inerrant and divinely inspired by God Himself. Jesus Himself taught that hostility towards the Holy Scriptures meant that you never belonged to God.
Wrong again...although some Roman Catholics may agree with you, but were talking about two different religions now. I'm talking about true Christianity. What it means to be a Christian was defined by Jesus Christ Himself.... and a few decades later it was explained and taught in greater detail by the apostles including (and especially) Paul. I'm not saying what Jesus taught was incomplete….just that the Apostles were teaching and preaching in different parts of the world and therefore presented the gospel for the proper audience. This was completed before the end of the 1st century AD....more than 2 centuries before Constantine was out of diapers. Constantine was full of himself just like every other dictator who ruled the Roman Empire. All scripture was completed by 95AD at the latest and everything a Christian needed to know for their salvation is in that scripture. Nothing written after that date was ever canonized...not even by Constantine himself.
Any Christian who studies the bible with desire to understand it, knows when it is literal and when it is not. It's not difficult for those who have asked God to give them a discerning mind.
...as I was saying... thanks for illustrating it perfectly.
My wife's cousin is no longer with Hare Krishna. Until Paul the Apostle decreed that followers of Christ did not have to be circumcised, Christianity was just an obscure Jewish sect.
Did Christ say anything about the Bible RG? He was crucified decades before the Bile was written.The Xrystian right wing all but killed the Jesus project. That was a consortium of open minded Biblical scholars who tried to determine those things said in the Bible were actually said by Christ.
Two things I believe they found was "Love thy neighbor as thy self" & another was "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth". Two phrases you'd do well to live by.
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People have trouble accepting the fact that when they die they die and it’s the end nothingness.end of consciousness
So humans created religion as a coping mechanism
The science is pretty clear on this
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bigblockfox ya say some do good work & ya tip your hat...
Yes that gospel mission in skid row really helps the down & out.
Salvation Army helps the juvenile who get in trouble with the law.
Miracle Valley ( Salvation Army ) past Maple Ridge has a big place that helps alcoholics...
Samaritans Purse helps the poor all over the world.
World Vision as well.
Operation Blessing helps in the USA ( based ) but also all over the world. Medical food shelter operations clean water ..
Orphan's Promise helps homeless kids teens who would be on the street or sex trafficked
There was a medical setup ( where was it ? ) Middle East somewhere SE of Egypt...anyways registered nurses & MDs in a total poor Muslim area that had zero medical services.
So many came because of sickness & so on....
One day a few guys entered the clinic & machined gunned these Christian nurses & doctors.
When they volunteered they knew they could be targeted.
But ya say it is easier to be an atheist. (Reminds me of that Lennon song...imagine there's no heaven above us. & no hell below us or however it goes.) Then ya go on to say ..do not eat pork wear this of that on your head ,go to church Sunday ...
I hear you ! I agree. All these religious rituals & rules...
Reminds me of getting your fishing rod ready ...hooks ...lures ...line ...reel...net ..
On & on...and spend 10 hrs getting fishing gear ready....drive to the lake & again spend more time getting ready the fishing gear ...and then get to the shore of the lake & make one cast & reel in and then say ok fishing trip over "let's go home"
Fishing would not be any fun.
So too if a person seeks God but gets hung up on too many rituals ...
Church is good if we can find a sincere pastor...
Bottom line is a person needs an encounter with God ...literally feel His Holy Spirit presence.
That is the only thing that made me a believer.
You can pray from your house. You can read New Testament on your own from your house...then if you pray & God responds by His Annointing you will then be convinced.
He's merciful...forgiving...so do not ever think you've done something bad so you think He does not love you. The worst of the very worst have met God.
Just thought your honest views needed a reply.
Even if you never step into a church ...you still can get to know Him. Ya can pray anywheres & anytime. & in your own words.
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People have trouble accepting the fact that when they die they die and it’s the end nothingness.end of consciousness
So humans created religion as a coping mechanism
The science is pretty clear on this
You have a finger print no one else has....you live in this fantastic universe...animals ...flowers ...snowflake design ...earth 365 around the sun...should tell people there has to be a higher power.
There must be a meaning to life...we are so complex & to live and just die. We become nothingness.
But to think there must be a higher power is not the reason I'm a believer today.
I am a believer because at age 17 ...prayed to God 1st time from my heart in the City of Williams Lake and God responded " big time ". Had an encounter. ( no was not crazy or stoned on drugs)
That settled it. Believer ever since.
It is so simple really. Jesus loves us...devil hates us...heaven & hell exist.
Pray to Jesus and ask Him to forgive your sins & for His Holy Spirit to fill you !
After that read new test. daily , pray, if ya think wrong talk wrong do something wrong ..confess it & ask for mercy... & go on...God will give you love joy peace & heaven for free.
It's for the asking.
If church is a burden then do not go. Main thing is get to know God.
He is God but He wants to be your best friend.
He'll give you life & life more abundant.
I was not going to talk on religious topic but yous keep it going with your comments so you deserve my take on it.
But do hear where your coming from.
Remember when I did not know God.
I remember thinking ? Is this gospel for real or is it BS. How can I find out if it's real ? It truly was a maze or puzzle to me at one time too.
But should mention something about Covid -19
World Health Association says : stay 3 ft away from people who are not feeling well.
Gee 3 ft only ?
The message we get in BC is stay away 6 ft from others.
Wear a mask some say & others say Do not wear a mask.
This is starting to get confusing. Just like how some view religion. :o
;D
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my gods the best, no my god is the best. i think this is how wars get started.
the very fact that you think your gods the best shows you how far you've gone down that rabbit hole. kinda sad actually.
its so much easier just being an atheist. all these stupids rules and what not don't apply to us. cant eat pork, go to church sundays, have to ware things on our head and so on.
one thing i will add is that some religious organizations do a lot of good work. to them i tip my hat.
People have trouble accepting the fact that when they die they die and it’s the end nothingness.end of consciousness
So humans created religion as a coping mechanism
The science is pretty clear on this
Unfortunately, there isn't a shortage of weak and vulnerable individuals on this planet who need that reassurance and a sense of belonging to get through life, and organized religions know exactly how to take advantage of these people.
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Drumpf asks medical supply firm 3M to stop selling N95 respirators to Canada
https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/
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Drumpf asks medical supply firm 3M to stop selling N95 respirators to Canada
https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/
so much for free trade agreements and Globalization.
U.S. Diverts N95 Masks bound for Germany in "an act of modern piracy":
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand
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Drumpf asks medical supply firm 3M to stop selling N95 respirators to Canada
https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/
Considering Canada shipped just about all we had to China in Feb....why would Trump give us anymore? Trudeau is known worldwide as a laughing stock and completely incompetent. For those who disagree, my challenge to you is read some Canadian new stories that are published in other countries. They have been laughing at us since he got elected the first time.
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Considering Canada shipped just about all we had to China in Feb
According to new reports, Canada shipped 16 tonnes of medical supplies. Was that just about all we had?
On March 28, China reciprocated with a return donation. Was it 16 tonnes? I don't know. But it was a sh!tload. Does that kind of international goodwill and reciprocity make Trudeau a laughing stock. I hardly think so.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6745817/china-donates-medical-supplies-canada/
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i know right? helping another country in a time of need. what was trudeau thinking. you do know china did the same when we needed them right?
https://globalnews.ca/news/6745817/china-donates-medical-supplies-canada/
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lol beat me to it
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Oh such an un-Christian thing to do, how dare Trudeau! ;D
Typical toxic, self-righteous religious fanatics, Rod should be banning these people for spreading the hate.
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Until Paul the Apostle decreed that followers of Christ did not have to be circumcised, Christianity was just an obscure Jewish sect.
True Christianity was alive and growing like wildfire long before Paul said that. Christianity was NEVER just an obscure Jewish sect. Christianity was Christianity from the day of Pentecost, to the current times.
Did Christ say anything about the Bible RG? He was crucified decades before the Bile was written.The Xrystian right wing all but killed the Jesus project. That was a consortium of open minded Biblical scholars who tried to determine those things said in the Bible were actually said by Christ.
Oh man....this is the oldest lamest strawman argument from every atheist out there.
Yes...the actual bible wasn't put together until much later. No one argues that, but EVERTHING IN THE BIBLE was written, accepted as the divine inspired Word of God,and in full circulation by the end of the 1st century. Even secular scholars aren't going to argue that one.
Word of God = written as scripture = being compiled (canonized) into one book later called the bible. Its all the same....and you know that....so typical of a lame atheist type argument.
Two things I believe they found was "Love thy neighbor as thy self" & another was "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth". Two phrases you'd do well to live by.
Anyone can pick 2 verses and say them out loud. People who truly study the bible read the surrounding text of those verse and interpret them in proper context. Cherry picking verses and the resulting chaos from doing that is one of the reasons unbelievers are suspicious of what is taught in the bible.
"Love thy neighbor as thy self"
This is probably the single most abused, cherry picked verse out of the entire bible. Every unbeliever I know uses it against Christians to attempt a character assassination on them. Again...so lame and so taken out of context....and most importantly incomplete. This verse is actually an answer Jesus gave to someone when asked Him "What is the most important commandment?" Here is the ENTIRE answer that Jesus actually gave.
Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and [a]foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
When you actually quote the entire conversation....the verse looks a lot different. Jesus is teaching here and many other places in scripture that it is impossible to love your neighbor without loving HIM...and loving HIM FIRST. Then you will be able to properly love your neighbor. To properly love your neighbor you would desire first and foremost that your neighbor has a relationship with God that saves him or her from the fires of hell. Outside of that.....your neighbor is nothing more to you that a good buddy. True neighborly love involves sharing the Lord with your neighbor and desiring to see them saved.
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According to new reports, Canada shipped 16 tonnes of medical supplies. Was that just about all we had?
depends where the info comes from....but there is some very good sources that say it was a very large % of what we had.
On March 28, China reciprocated with a return donation. Was it 16 tonnes? I don't know. But it was a sh!tload. Does that kind of international goodwill and reciprocity make Trudeau a laughing stock. I hardly think so.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6745817/china-donates-medical-supplies-canada/
We needed it before then. China hesitated. I'm actually surprised they did in the end. There was no guarantee they would.
And again....I challenge you to read what other countries say about Trudeau. It just might surprise you. He truly is the laughing stock on the worldwide stage.....but CBC CTV and Global will NEVER EVER show it on their channels.
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When you actually quote the entire conversation....the verse looks a lot different. Jesus is teaching here and many other places in scripture that it is impossible to love your neighbor without loving HIM...and loving HIM FIRST. Then you will be able to properly love your neighbor. To properly love your neighbor you would desire first and foremost that your neighbor has a relationship with God that saves him or her from the fires of hell. Outside of that.....your neighbor is nothing more to you that a good buddy. True neighborly love involves sharing the Lord with your neighbor and desiring to see them saved.
I guess that's why Robert doesn't love us LOL!!
And again....I challenge you to read what other countries say about Trudeau. It just might surprise you. He truly is the laughing stock on the worldwide stage.....but CBC CTV and Global will NEVER EVER show it on their channels.
How about YOU find some articles to show us what you're talking about?
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Unfortunately, there isn't a shortage of weak and vulnerable individuals on this planet who need that reassurance and a sense of belonging to get through life, and organized religions know exactly how to take advantage of these people.
Rod your comment has lots of truth.
Lots of priests /pastors with sneaky /selfish motives & many weak believers fall prey to them.
And I am convinced that Jesus is the way truth & life. God became flesh...perfect lamb of God who was the sacrifice ..but then came back to life the 3rd day !
So where does that leave other religions? All bridges to God. No.
Now we are talking billions involved in false religions /cults.
Then we have Scientology Mormons JWs so forth...guys like Jim Jones...San Francisco church...then he moved the church Central America I think where the mass suicides took place.
Then there was another guy in Waco Texas ..his followers in this big complex & there was a big shoot out.
Police/army ...some buildings caught fire...so many dead.
So yes abuse ...plenty.
Of course we hear a lot about residential schools...then also priests abusing kids...plus now there's priests in S America stories of priests raping nuns...oh lest we forget Jim Bakker / Jommy Swaggart sexual slip ups ...in those high up positions and still taking that risk.
Benny Hinn affair with Rev. Paula White.
All of this is just the tip of the iceberg.
And as Inpoint my finger at them there was a time in my walk with God ..I lived like the prodical son...
Galations ch 5 flesh vs the Spirit. In other words temptation.
To be tempted is not sin but to follow thru it becomes sin.
In my disobedient days 1 John 1:9 was my favourite verse...if you confess your sin He is faithful & just to forgive you your sin & cleanse you from all unrighteousness.
Being single ...booze ...etc...just got into a rut..spiritually.
But I am very ashamed to this day & disappointed in myself but cannot change the past but can make proper decisions today & tomorrow...
Abuse in the church "yes" plenty... some tv preachers in mega churches bringing in millions & millions & pocketing too high a % of it.
When I lived in the prairies went to this one church close to where I lived & the service was 60% of the time pressure to give $$$.
Even one preacher says give us $50 & we will give you this paper cut out ( shape of a foot ) and you put it in your shoes. As you wear your shoes watch God work in your life !!!
What ??? That is crazy.
So abuse plenty.
But among all this craziness ...is there any light shining thru the dark clouds.
Is there a real spiritual war going on for our souls.
Plenty & it's big time.
Any good examples ...well we mentioned how natives had bad experience with past religion but tv programs like Spirit Alive & Tribal Trails are totally run by natives who have had an encounter with God !
Sid Roth & even myself have experience power in the occult before we met God.
I did not study anything in the occult but suddenly astral body projection started happening in my life.
I told "no one " as thought they would think I'm going"Nuts" .
Thought maybe I was dying..literally my mind would exit my body sometimes.
It was so weird. But the first time I looked for answers found a paperback book at a pharmacy Zag the shopping centre Austin & N Road Coquitlam close to Louheed Mall.
It was an occult book with each chapter having a dif. form of the occult...astrology tarot cards ouija board astral body travel or projection...bought the book .
Exactly what was happening to me ...astral body travel. So was happy I could have a label to my out of body experiences.
Literally I could exit my body & fly with my mind to locations miles away !!!
It was so freaky.
But that summer on high school break bused to a Williams Lake & got a summer job at Merrill & Wagner sawmill. It was up there when I prayed to Jesus & simply asked Him if He was real.
Had a big time encounter.
I prayed and asked God like what about this astral body travel ...is this from You...if not take it away.
Never astral traveled ever again !!!
So as a new believer I wondered if the Bible warned on the occult.
Plenty. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 just one of my favourites.
Book of Acts in New Test. the apostles come across 3-4 x people who are into the occult.
Even one lady with psychic powers had a demon cast out ! Think it's Acts ch 16.
But yes Sid Roth has that program It's Supernatural ..but his youtube vids have guests who were into the occult before they became Christians.
Sid Roth as mentioned did astral travel when he was not a Christian so he knows the reality of the occult.
The new age movement is full of the occult. Crystals tarot cards mediums psychics ...
Doreen Virtue was the leading new age lecturer & author....
She had a Christian encounter in recent yrs...and she now states the new age is demonic.
Her ex followers think she lost her mind. ;D
After I got saved ..went to a church in New Westminster. Really nice church. Interesting sermons & good praise & worship & no pressure on giving $$$ or trying to control you or whatever...
Went there for 7 yrs before I moved to the prairies for 2 yrs.
But Rev Pritchard did not mention much about the demonic ...in all those years...but one service he really caught my attention.
He told a story when he was a young pastor. His young children cried & made a fuss every Sat evening !!
So much so ..Les was tired the next am when he had to preach.
Again his kids on cue cried on Sat. evening....
This went on for a few weeks ....
Then one Sat. evening his kids again crying ...he entered their bedroom to calm them ...and he said he literally saw 2 demons !!!
He rebuked them in Jesus Name & pufff they vanished in thin air !
True story. I believe him 100% because this guy was so nice & sincere.
In the prairies I went sometimes to a Salvation Army church.
One service looked very serious ! The Capt. ( they do not call them pastors ) said they have a female teen story their house who is totally possessed !
He said other high rank Salvation Army personal are flying in from Vancouver and Toronto.
Long story short she was totally delivered !
Even Nick Vujicic the limbless evangelist told of 2 stories he had with demonic encounters.
Do you know who criticized him when he told of his encounter with the demonic he felt in a hotel room.
Other Christians. Ha !
Oh you should not say anything about the demonic....
What !!! To sweep it under the rug is not good.
Of course we focus on God but what is wrong to warn on the reality of the dark side. It 's in the New Test. over & over...
Ephesians 6:10 ...on just one of many places.
With most pastors not knowing much on this area is why they do not give a warning, so is it any wonder kids teens are dabbling with ouija boards ....or having sleep paralysis encounters...or going into the new age....
Natives on that tv channel have a program "The Other Side" ...haunted houses & like...
These are not ghosts ...the para normal are demonic spirits. So sad as some natives are suicidal / drugs/ prostitution / family abuse / so the last thing they need is a program like this.
Demons lie & are deceivers ...
Kids doing charliecharliechallenge ...dangerous.
I sparked an article about ex occultists I met who became Christians ..story in the Vancouver Province came out in a Sat. am paper.
Hours before at 3:30 am an invisible evil presence came into my bedroom. Evil x 1000 !!!
I got so afraid (ha) I spoke out " Jesus name Go "
Literally it took off to the west direction thru the window area!!!
Just sensed it.
Do a youtube search : ex new age now a Christian
Or: ex witch now a Christian .
One favourite : Tara Lawson ouija evil
Another : Pop evil rock star cast out demon.
I give 1000s of people Chick tracts like Gunslinger for example and have met so many who told me about having sleep paralysis ...& they are so afraid.
Another guy who told me his sister used an ouija board ...and weird thing started happening..
She went to 3 churches to seek help ...Ladner Delta so on...he said the pastor told his sister to go to a gov. social wkr or psychiatric clinic !!! What !!!
I also have met so many who have told me their house has strange things going on...
But yes there are super good real churches ...ministries like the Dream Centre (s) in various cities.
They help the down & out in LA etc...
But that is why when I give out tracts ...I do not my include my name/ do not ask for their name: do not mention any church because I know they have heard of bad examples of preachers / priests so I motivation is 100% just share the gospel message ( plus I pen in some good youtube testimonies )
So when they take the tract ...they are not pressured to go to a church or give $$$ or whatever.
So why do I share but not arm twist...well simply have had very real encounter with God & the powers of evil.
But Rodney you are so right....so much bad examples in religion ...
But watching tv news yesterday and this Covid 19 is getting scary but the minute.
1000 people died in USA yesterday.
This is getting very serious.
Life as we know it has shut down.
Where will it end?
There's 9 new posts as I'm posting.
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How about YOU find some articles to show us what you're talking about?
https://us.blastingnews.com/news/2016/11/canada-s-justin-trudeau-becomes-a-world-wide-laughing-stock-001293415.html
https://barenakedislam.com/2018/04/21/trudeau-has-turned-canada-into-global-laughing-stock/
https://www.macleans.ca/news/trudeaus-turn-from-cool-to-laughing-stock/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadas-back-when-its-convenient/
https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/07/trudeau-a-laughingstock-over-peoplekind-remarks/
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/05/18/canada-becoming-a-laughing-stock-in-the-world-with-trans-mountain-crisis-says-former-ambassador/
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/marin-trudeaus-latest-antics-on-world-stage-show-hes-same-old-drama-teacher
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-all-the-worlds-a-privileged-stage-for-trudeau/
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/was-justin-trudeau-completely-ignored-by-brazil-and-china-at-the-g20-summit-2210241.html
I can go all day at this, but the sheep will always be sheep.
Justin Trudeau is a laughing stock on the world stage. THAT IS A FACT. Whether or not you choose to put your head in the sand or not is up to you.
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Rod your comment has lots of truth.
Lots of priests /pastors with sneaky /selfish motives & many weak believers fall prey to them.
And I am convinced that Jesus is the way truth & life.
Not sure why you wrote all that, I stopped here but ok.
I expect another 1,000 word of nothingness in response please.
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I guess that's why Robert doesn't love us LOL!!
How about YOU find some articles to show us what you're talking about?
Your hate for Trudeau is blinding the reality of why and how are gov't is handling this pandemic.
It's not perfect but other countries are taking note and applying the same rules to their people. Thank god huh Robert G?
We have spoken to relatives in Italy (way worse than being reported) almost every 2nd day as well as Germany and Sweden. There coverage of Canada and the handling of the crisis is what they want and have actually started to do in those countries with the exception of Sweden so far.
There are bible bangers still getting together in large groups in Canada but much more so in the US. It's mind numbing that Trump isn't imposing one rule for the whole country at this time. And it's hard to believe that so many US States have the authority to have religious gatherings still. Many children and young people (high portion of carriers) will die. It has already started. God won't bring them back.
Everybody has to put all their beliefs aside for now and live as one if we want to get through this quicker. If people start to not self isolate more in the next 2 weeks many of us will know people that are either sick are dead.
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Unfortunately, there isn't a shortage of weak and vulnerable individuals on this planet who need that reassurance and a sense of belonging to get through life, and organized religions know exactly how to take advantage of these people.
First of all, I have many issues with the institution of the church. The true church is the people that come together to worship and love Jesus and who are there for one another.
Secondly...Christians who know their scripture well are in a good position where organized religion is unable to take advantage of them. Anyone who reads their bible knows that it teaches that true Christianity does NOT take advantage of people....and they will be able to recognize it when someone is trying to do that to them.
As for you, I can't imagine what it would be like to have no idea what happens the second you pass from this world. You may have ideas or beliefs or what your parents taught you....but the truth is you don't know. The only real security out there in this life is Jesus. I say to anyone that knocks on His door....you will not be disappointed....not in this life or the next.
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https://us.blastingnews.com/news/2016/11/canada-s-justin-trudeau-becomes-a-world-wide-laughing-stock-001293415.html
https://barenakedislam.com/2018/04/21/trudeau-has-turned-canada-into-global-laughing-stock/
https://www.macleans.ca/news/trudeaus-turn-from-cool-to-laughing-stock/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadas-back-when-its-convenient/
https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/07/trudeau-a-laughingstock-over-peoplekind-remarks/
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/05/18/canada-becoming-a-laughing-stock-in-the-world-with-trans-mountain-crisis-says-former-ambassador/
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/marin-trudeaus-latest-antics-on-world-stage-show-hes-same-old-drama-teacher
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-all-the-worlds-a-privileged-stage-for-trudeau/
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/was-justin-trudeau-completely-ignored-by-brazil-and-china-at-the-g20-summit-2210241.html
I can go all day at this, but the sheep will always be sheep.
Justin Trudeau is a laughing stock on the world stage. THAT IS A FACT. Whether or not you choose to put your head in the sand or not is up to you.
Eh? I thought you were gonna show us articles from OTHER countries
way to present opinions as facts again
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Your hate for Trudeau is blinding the reality of why and how are gov't is handling this pandemic.
I don't hate him, but treason and incompetence should only result in him being removed from office. In no way am I blind to what the Liberal government agenda is.
It's not perfect but other counties are taking note and applying the same rules to their people. Thank god huh Robert G?
You need to get off mainstream news and start thinking for yourself.
It's mind numbing that Trump isn't imposing one rule for the whole country at this time. And it's hard to believe that so many US States have the authority to have religious gatherings still.
Trump is NOT condoning those gatherings....but I think there is some State laws that may not allow him to intervene....although I don't know those laws well enough to say one way or the other.
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Eh? I thought you were gonna show us articles from OTHER countries
way to present opinions as facts again
Like I said....the sheep keep doing what they are doing no matter what you show them. I could find some international sources but the ones in our own country are much more damning anyway.
How is 9 sources spread throughout his time as PM not enough? You are in denial....period.
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As for you, I can't imagine what it would be like to have no idea what happens the second you pass from this world. You may have ideas or beliefs or what your parents taught you....but the truth is you don't know. The only real security out there in this life is Jesus. I say to anyone that knocks on His door....you will not be disappointed....not in this life or the next.
Um.. No thanks...
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Um.. No thanks...
Matthew 7:23
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Matthew 25:41
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
The most devastating words a person will ever hear in their life.
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ok? Why are you C&Ping verses as if you're gonna prove me wrong?
Life must be pretty grand when you're looking down from the top of that pedestal, maybe I should try it since I'm so miserable lol...
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barenakedislam. theirs a source i trust. lol
and you referring to us as sheep, maybe you should take a look in the mirror with all of these bible lines you memorised. The pot calling the kettle black.
and ya trump did want easter open to churches could gather
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/03/25/us/politics/ap-us-virus-outbreak-trump-easter.html
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ok? Why are you C&Ping verses as if you're gonna prove me wrong?
Life must be pretty grand when you're looking down from the top of that pedestal, maybe I should try it since I'm so miserable lol...
I can't prove you wrong, but warning you is the right thing to do. If I was wading in the Vedder and you saw a big tree floating down that would take me out, I would hope you would warn me. That's what neighbors do. This has nothing to do with looking down from a pedestal. This is about saving your life.
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also notice when ever a conservative gets pressured they automatically assume your a trudeau or hillary humper. trudeau is a neo liberal wrapped in progressive clothes. i think hes average at best but for now hes our best option. i thought jagmeet singh had a few good ideas to bring to the table.
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and ya trump did want easter open to churches could gather
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/03/25/us/politics/ap-us-virus-outbreak-trump-easter.html
The NY times? Fake news if there ever was...about as honest as CNN.
Anyways....Trump did say he wanted churches open by Easter. What's wrong with that? I think any Christian would want churches open by Easter....there is nothing wrong with desiring that. He never once said he would break protocol and allow them to open. There is a difference.
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I can't prove you wrong, but warning you is the right thing to do. If I was wading in the Vedder and you saw a big tree floating down that would take me out, I would hope you would warn me. That's what neighbors do. This has nothing to do with looking down from a pedestal. This about saving your life.
with out a doubt i would warn you. surprised you would even ask that. whether you beileve in jesus or the tooth fairy it doesnt matter, but not sure how that applies to anything that has been said.
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trump is NOT condoning those gatherings....but I think there is some State laws that may not allow him to intervene....although I don't know those laws well enough to say one way or the other.
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with out a doubt i would warn you. surprised you would even ask that. whether you beileve in jesus or the tooth fairy it doesnt matter, but not sure how that applies to anything that has been said.
Because I'd rather get hit by a log while wading in the Vedder than being sent to hell for eternity.
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Because I'd rather get hit by a log while wading in the Vedder than being sent to hell for eternity.
LOL!!
I think it's pretty conclusive what you and A-boater are suffering from now, sadly.
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so you dont want to warn you? im confused
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so you dont want to warn you? im confused
He's saying if he believes, then you should warn him. If he doesn't believe, then you shouldn't warn him otherwise he'd be sent to hell. You should only save those who want to be saved, but they need to save themselves first. So prior to being hit by the log, ask first before you save someone.
;)
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Because I'd rather get hit by a log while wading in the Vedder than being sent to hell for eternity.
you may well experience both!
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you may well experience both!
That is not going to happen. I'm saved because of who Jesus is, what He did on the cross, and because God raised Him from the dead...and because I believe and trust that to be true; and I have committed my life to Him. Its that simple. Works and deeds do NOT save anyone. That is a core teaching in Christianity that no true denomination will argue. Thankfully God doesn't look for perfect people. He looks for broken people who need a savior...which I am one for sure. If that isn't good news, then I don't know what is.
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Because I'd rather get hit by a log while wading in the Vedder than being sent to hell for eternity.
what you dont want to party with this guy? looks kinda fun to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/28dsRJ7.jpg)
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and just to lighten the mood in here. here's a steelhead i caught the other day.
(https://i.imgur.com/nRQi2rH.jpg)
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and just to lighten the mood in here. here's a steelhead i caught the other day.
(https://i.imgur.com/nRQi2rH.jpg)
Beautiful fish. Thanks bigblock.
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and just to lighten the mood in here. here's a steelhead i caught the other day.
(https://i.imgur.com/nRQi2rH.jpg)
Do I see small horns on that fish...no guess not..maybe on some bullheads.
But not to get too extreme. God is God & He is 1 billion more powerful & more than any demon.
If your a Christian you have protection from evil like putting on a light in a dark room ...darkness flees.
Nevertheless if you do not have the armour of God (Ephesians ch 6. ) you are blinded to the true facts.
What do you think the devil 's favourite trick is ?
His favour trick is to have people think he does not exist !!!
Say OUCH anyone?
Just incase Robert & yours truly could be right...even just a 1% chance in your mind we could be right don 't ya think ya should pray to Jesus with all your heart & just ask Him to reveal /or show you.
If you ask sincerely ..you will get the answer !
Example in scripture where if you ask for a loaf of bread will God give you a stone ?
No.
God loves you guys.
Like the kid says: no I do not want to take a bath today.
No no no...
Parent forcefully says: you take a bath. It 's bath night for you.
Kid argues but gets into the tub.
Later his mom says : Tommy it's time you get out of the tub.
Kid says: ah mom can I stay longer...I'm playing with my rubber duck & plastic toy boat.
One minute the kid does not want to go in the tub & now he does not want to get out. ;D
If you guys meet The Lord you too will be like this kid.
No I do not believe ...gospel is BS .... but pray and suddenly you will be like Robert & me...you will be witnessing for The Lord. Robert and I were not born believers but we met The Lord in a real way at some pt. This can happen to you. But in your timing. We can share but not force it.
If the guy with horns & pointed tail jabs you with his fork ...by mistake...if just may get your attention.
Nice colors on the fish ! Me like.
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Thankfully God doesn't look for perfect people. He looks for broken people who need a savior...which I am one for sure.
I certainly agree with you there. To me you are full of arrogant hubris & totally convinced the main result of your 'faith' is it has made you an absolutely superior person to anyone who doesn't think like you. Based on what you write I perceive an absolute lack of both christian charity and love of humanity within you.
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I certainly agree with you there. To me you are full of arrogant hubris & totally convinced the main result of your 'faith' is it has made you an absolutely superior person to anyone who doesn't think like you. Based on what you write I perceive an absolute lack of both christian charity and love of humanity within you.
RalphH Robert & I are humans. We are saved sinners. Going to heaven by God's mercy forgiveness grace..
But Robert is trying very sincerely sharing his faith to you & others...and if RalphH ever met The Lord Robert would be the first guy to cry tears of joy.
We are pointing to the sinless perfect no flaw Saviour who for you, Robert others died naked on the cross. Spit on hit stabbed nailed crowns of torns in His head...
I know it sounds like some novel or Hollywood sci Fi movie...but this is real. Thru all the BS out there and bad examples it is true.
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Im surprised the admin got in on this on a fishing website LOL
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Im surprised the admin got in on this on a fishing website LOL
Covid boredom
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RalphH Robert & I are humans. We are saved sinners. Going to heaven by God's mercy forgiveness grace..
But Robert is trying very sincerely sharing his faith to you & others...and if RalphH ever met The Lord Robert would be the first guy to cry tears of joy.
We are pointing to the sinless perfect no flaw Saviour who for you, Robert others died naked on the cross. Spit on hit stabbed nailed crowns of torns in His head...
I know it sounds like some novel or Hollywood sci Fi movie...but this is real. Thru all the BS out there and bad examples it is true.
All I can say is if that is what being a "Christian" is I don't want any part of it. As I said before many Christians in my and the wife's family. I have had Christians as friend and work mates. There is no comparison to what they say and how they act and much of the stuff written here. Night and day! Being a Christian isn't a divine license to be an 'a-h*ole'.
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Im surprised the admin got in on this on a fishing website LOL
Well world as we know it is turned upside down.
I would of stopped commenting long time ago but other members 3-4 -5 keep commenting...so I respond trying to clear it up. But guess I made it more muddy ...& more unbelievable ...
Now he 's talking about demons !!!
So.....if members stop commenting on faith topics then I will not be tempted to respond.
I for one think we have exhausted the subject or we all stated where we stand on the subject.
But I never get tired of witnessing my faith...do so daily as I pedal bike.
Ironically a JW phoned minutes ago ...trying to spread their views. Guess because of Covid 19 they do not knock on doors.
Keeping my mom 84 yrs old...she politely said. " No thank you & hung up "
Guess if I answered the debate would of raged on....
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I certainly agree with you there. To me you are full of arrogant hubris & totally convinced the main result of your 'faith' is it has made you an absolutely superior person to anyone who doesn't think like you. Based on what you write I perceive an absolute lack of both christian charity and love of humanity within you.
I'm going to say this one more time for you so you'll stop falsely accusing me of me thinking I'm a 'superior person' or however you put it...and then I'd like you to respect that.
What you perceive and what is the truth about me are 2 different things....so I'll ask you nicely to turn off your atheist hatred for me.
You accuse me of thinking I'm better than others because I'm a Christian. That is incorrect.
I am BETTER OFF (NOT BETTER) than you and some others here because I have the promise of eternal life in heaven. You don't have that. I do. That makes me BETTER OFF. Pretty simple to understand what that means.
I am NOT however any BETTER than you or anyone else here based on my own merit. I do not think I am better then anyone else nor have I ever thought that way ever. Christ died for me while I was a sinner. I have nothing to boast about and my current (and final) situation with the promise of eternal life has nothing to do with what I have done (good or bad) or who I am.
So please take your unwarranted hatred elsewhere.
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But Robert is trying very sincerely sharing his faith to you & others...and if RalphH ever met The Lord Robert would be the first guy to cry tears of joy.
Well said, but the difference between Ralph and I is that I would love to see him saved, but he would like to see me fall off a cliff....but according to him, he knows what real love is and I don't. Typical logic from an atheist.
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Im surprised the admin got in on this on a fishing website LOL
There is no stopping it, better to have it in one thread then have people create 100's everyday
plus hes providing a social solution to all us shut ins. very nice of him
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Covid boredom
something to kill the time at work. tried downloading my favourite video game but my work computer is to crappy to play it.
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Well said, but the difference between Ralph and I is that I would love to see him saved, but he would like to see me fall off a cliff....but according to him, he knows what real love is and I don't. Typical logic from an atheist.
No way! I don't think or feel that. I am talking how I perceive your behaviour through your writing on this discussion board. I wouldn't wish you harmed or even unhappy. Fact is I perceive you are a very unhappy person. You seem so angry all the time.
At best I'd like to see you lighten up and perhaps be a little more humble. At worst, just that you go away and I never have to read a thing you have written again.
As for my allegedly being an atheist. Atheism is basically an absence of faith. There are many sorts of atheists from the mass murderers like Stalin to the hateful propaganda atheists like Richard Dawkins or the late Christopher Hitchens. These 2 are better described as anti-theists - opposed to any form of spiritual faith. In the middle are people like me. They don't feel any sort of faith in a God or Gods. I also would not say it is impossible for me to stop being such an atheist. For a long time I considered myself an agnostic and before that a passive or non-practicing Christian.
I don't want to die. I do worry about it sometimes. However as a Christian Pastor once pointed out "Death at it's worst is nothing less than perfect rest" and everyone enjoys a good long night of uninterrupted sleep so why worry.
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What has all that diatribe got to do with picture of a fish????
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Atheism is basically an absence of faith.
Atheism is as much a faith and belief system as Christianity. You cannot physically prove there is no God anymore than I can prove there is one.
However as a Christian Pastor once pointed out "Death at it's worst is nothing less than perfect rest" and everyone enjoys a good long night of uninterrupted sleep so why worry.
This is what hurts the most. Watching you and others be deceived by those who want people to just feel good and sleep at night. No Christian pastor who follows Jesus would ever say what that pastor said to you.....ever.
No way! I don't think or feel that. I am talking how I perceive your behaviour through your writing on this discussion board. I wouldn't wish you harmed or even unhappy. Fact is I perceive you are a very unhappy person.
I will admit I'm not the most happy person....not to say though that I'm never happy...but I'm totally ok with that. I have no problem admitting that as a Christian. In fact, Jesus and the Apostles all taught that true followers of Christ would face having a good part of their lives filled with hatred, ridicule, and mockery from others (including family), persecution, and suffering. That there teaches that true followers of Jesus won't be happy much of the time. What I do experience is a constant true joy that can only be found in being member of God's family. It transcends any feelings of unhappiness that I may have. It's an unexplainable joy that most people will never get to experience. As for you Ralph, when you see and talk with 'confessed Christians' who seem very happy and content with their lives...those who love their lives just the way they are....at best they are 'worldly Christians'...at worst they are not Christians at all. Jesus and the Apostles taught that regularly.
You seem so angry all the time.
At best I'd like to see you lighten up and perhaps be a little more humble.
You wouldn't recognize what it looks like to humble yourself before God anyway (that's not meant to be a jab btw). As for being angry, I'm not really an angry person, but some anger that is in me can be explained in what I have typed out next.
I started fishing the Fraser systems long before I became a devout Christian (early 80s)….and the fishing and opportunities were so good and so plentiful, I mistakenly built part of my identity on it. I skipped church and school even to go fishing. It was such a part of my life, that it even became an idol. The local Fraser salmon/steelhead/trout fishing part of my life in fact became my life. I loved it. I was good at it. I always caught fish. I was quite often the envy of other fishermen around me as when fishing was slower I'd still get my limit. Not trying to sound conceited, but I did well at it and it suited me. I had secret spots that still rarely see a person or 2.
Then all of a sudden fish stocks started to slowly get lower numbers and Natives were fighting to keep their quotas, etc, etc....and us sports fishermen were seeing our opportunities dwindle. It got worse and worse as time went on and here we are today and we are basically at rock bottom for opportunities on the Fraser. Hunting (which I also enjoy) is going down the same road and we are going to lose that too sooner than later.
So what that means is that these types of message boards are a constant reminder of what is lost to me. I could just leave and never check the forum again, but I can't do that. There is part of me that will never let go of what once was...or at least until I know for 100% that the body (opportunities to fish the Fraser) is so dead that it's cold and rotting. Reading Rod and others post about meetings and things like that are the worst for me because deep down I want Rod to succeed in what he and others are doing, but the fact that I was part of those meetings and such long before Rod's time (also when the salmon were much more plentiful), I also know deep down that he and others are pissing in the wind....but even with all that said...still I want him to succeed. Its a nasty emotional battle for me that I'd rather see either regain its former glory or just die once and for all...its like teasing a little kid with candy....always teasing them with the possibility of getting candy....but even the kid knows the guy with the candy will probably never share....so yeah, I have to admit that it doesn't bring out the best in me and I have to learn to control my emotions better on certain topics here, but that doesn't confirm me as an angry person, and more importantly it quite often shows the worst side of me. I have a couple of other hobbies that also have message boards that I frequent, and I'm much more relaxed at those, and open to discussion on them because they aren't being threatened to be removed from my life, or like here where this hobby (huge part of my life actually) has been basically taken away from me.
I hope you can appreciate where I'm coming from.
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Whatever happened to the promise that he won't post anymore about religion ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpYgpKKLp-0
10:00 min mark. I'm sure the Lord will accede to his demand.
Guess God didn't take too kindly to be told by some evangelist what to do. Another couple of hundred people died overnight.
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Ralph & Robert..think we learned a lot by what you guys shared from your heart.
Know it 's between you guys mainly but I for one am happy you both explained your feeling/views.
Good on you both.
I also said things exactly what happened & no stretching the truth ...or was trying to be over dramatic.
And honestly want to thank Rod because he had allowed me to just be real.
And I thank you members too...because my story told thought maybe yous would want me to be banned. As Robert said we do not think we are better than you.
Guess we know that we know ( God is real & devil. ) and we want you to know that you know.
Heaven has lots of room for all of us.
But we do not want to pressure anyone...we just share from the heart & we'll let the Holy Spirit work on you guys & dolls :)
FA are you referring to me ?
Promise not to post on religion anymore.
Well I was reading 5-6 posts afterwords and that's all members talked about... so I guess it was a hot topic...so if others stop I'll stop too.
The seed has been planted so it will grow into the biggest tree of faith or remain dormant.
Tell you one thing I feel we are all in a twilight zone tv show.
Have you ever thought in a million years an invisible virus would kill 1000 people in one day in the USA and the same in European countries...so on.
Wash your hands wash your hands wash your hands...
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And honestly want to thank Rod because he had allowed me to just be real.
And I thank you members too...because my story told thought maybe yous would want me to be banned
because deep down I want Rod to succeed in what he and others are doing
- In the end, with all the differences these quotes above stick out. Real men
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Guess God didn't take too kindly to be told by some evangelist what to do. Another couple of hundred people died overnight.
Yes that is that evangelist Kenneth Kopeland .
He's the guy who brings in millions of dollars ...mega church...tv programs...but in my opinion puts alittle too much in his pocket. Self interest. Too many planes and personal 70 million $$$ jet.
Reminds me of that guy Rashnish or however ya spell his name...he owned so many Rolls Royce cars (sp?) Eastern religion guru...his followers lines the road as his think it was 75 RR cars drove by....
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And honestly want to thank Rod because he had allowed me to just be real.
And I thank you members too...because my story told thought maybe yous would want me to be banned
because deep down I want Rod to succeed in what he and others are doing
- In the end, with all the differences these quotes above stick out. Real men
Kosher salt ...must be Jewish.
There was a man in so dark field who saw a flashlight beam.....he ran as fast as he could to hide.
There was a man in a dark field who saw a flashlight beam....he ran to word the light & said " Hi there What's Up ! "
Which man are you Kosher salt.
What real man are you ?
Above is only said if you were putting us down.
But if you meant it positively then Thank you.
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Somehow I don't think my reason for keeping this thread going is the same as some of yours.
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Which man are you Kosher salt.
What real man are you ?
Yea dude I genuinely mean it positively.
I enjoy going to the river, catching a huge f..in spring that’s gonna bust my rod, followed with watching the blood spill :) and slitting the belly eating some eggs raw. I know the term ‘tug is the drug’ I get euphoric during it all. That’s the fisher Man I am.
And now I think about what Robert said about fishing/fish itself being an idol. I get that perspective and thanks.
There are bigger things in life than fishing. Although nothing wrong with making a career with something you enjoy such as fishing.
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man this thread just keeps on getting better and better.
on a side note i would like to quote Professor Kim Woo-joo, "This is science. You have to be humble. The moment we become arrogant, we'll lose"
if you haven't watched this video you should. it might be a little long and not in english but its the best ive seen so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU&t=767s
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Which man are you Kosher salt.
What real man are you ?
Yea dude I genuinely mean it positively.
I enjoy going to the river, catching a huge f..in spring that’s gonna bust my rod, followed with watching the blood spill :) and slitting the belly eating some eggs raw. I know the term ‘tug is the drug’ I get euphoric during it all. That’s the fisher Man I am.
And now I think about what Robert said about fishing/fish itself being an idol. I get that perspective and thanks.
There are bigger things in life than fishing. Although nothing wrong with making a career with something you enjoy such as fishing.
That 's kosher ! That's great you meant it in a positive way.
I salute you sir ! Stay healthy & wise.
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man this thread just keeps on getting better and better.
on a side note i would like to quote Professor Kim Woo-joo, "This is science. You have to be humble. The moment we become arrogant, we'll lose"
if you haven't watched this video you should. it might be a little long and not in english but its the best ive seen so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU&t=767s
This doctor is so calm & good talker. He makes so many points.
Guess he is in demand and does a lot of interviews thus gets lots of practise.
He says Korea is containing the virus...lots of testing...washing of hands....wearing masks he said does stop the spread.
But interesting he said on Fri-Sat the young adults are going to bars / karaoke drinking & being in close quarters....not social distancing.
And he says if young adults get it they should recover but he said these young infected people can give it older folks who then can get very sick and be fatal.
Thus for the sake of older people the young should try not to get sick.
Vaccine he said takes long time but they are testing various past medications and see if they have any affect against Covid 19.
He says things may improve by August but that's being hopeful.
Well learned we should keep 2 metres apart...wash hands...wear a mask....I noticed they were sitting quite close to each other and both did not wear any mask
We are not wearing masks because there are none.
Guess we have to get those lady pads they stick in their underwear and use them as masks !!!
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Yes that is that evangelist Kenneth Kopeland .
He's the guy who brings in millions of dollars ...mega church...tv programs...but in my opinion puts alittle too much in his pocket. Self interest. Too many planes and personal 70 million $$$ jet.
Reminds me of that guy Rashnish or however ya spell his name...he owned so many Rolls Royce cars (sp?) Eastern religion guru...his followers lines the road as his think it was 75 RR cars drove by....
Exactly, they are in it for the money and nothing else.
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Exactly, they are in it for the money and nothing else.
Yes FA some evangelists are cons & some have mixed motivations ...like they start out sincere & with a mission but power & money corrupts ....
But do not throw the baby out with the wash water...there are sincere evangelists preaching a sincere message. The basics Jesus / devil / sin / cross / heaven / hell.
There's a verse in New Testament " many will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits...( demons. ) There is going to be a falling away from the faith...
But yes " the LOVE of $$$ is the root of all evil. "
For $ a girl will sell her body...for $ there are bank robberies...for $ there is ID theft ...scams ...lying in business...for $ people in car accident....my back my neck... ( but no pain. ) for $ drugs are brought into the country...for $ people are murdered.
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A You cannot physically prove there is no God anymore than I can prove there is one.
Dumb logic....
So leprechauns are ....real!!
Next time you meet him...take a selfie.
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Atheism is as much a faith and belief system as Christianity. You cannot physically prove there is no God anymore than I can prove there is one.
You've got this backwards. Atheism is not a belief system and is actually the exact opposite.
If I claim to have landed a 800lb coho, you would be right to question it if I provide no evidence. The onus is not on you to prove that giant coho don't exist, it's on me to prove that they do. Being a mega-coho atheist requires no faith whatsoever, nor is it a belief system; it's the logical conclusion to a outrageous claim supported by no evidence whatsoever.
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Dumb logic....
So leprechauns are ....real!!
Next time you meet him...take a selfie.
That logic (in a roundabout way) forms the backbone to Anselm's ontological argument proving the existence of God. And philosophers wonder why nobody takes the field of philosophy seriously 8)
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Well I'm sure Robert_G may respond to your comments as your quoting some of his sentences.
The way Robert comments about his faith I being a believer sense he has a real walk with God.
In other words it's not so wishy washy hope so faith but in his heart he knows 1000 % the God he believes in exists & is not a fairytale.
He knows his God & yous the unbelievers scoff & try to make up a million reasons why he & I must be nuts insane simpletons religious fanatics !
Fact is we do know & you are deceived & spiritually blind.
If you ask how do you know this Jesus info is fact?
Simply I've felt His Holy Spirit ( presence. ) in my life. Invisible yes...God is a Spirit and those that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth. From our heart & sincerely. Not just lip service but really mean it.
A true Christian can feel the presence of God. In various degrees.
One service I was at ( only happened like this 1x in the 7 yrs I attended that church ) in a church in New Westminster had a really powerful visitation from God !
It was a Sunday evening service. A visiting speaker from the USA was giving the sermon. His message was : Do not try to live the Christian walk on your own power but live your faith with the help of the Holy Spirit. With getting the Spirit to help you will give you the fruit of love joy peace power ....
Kinda like keep the fire going by adding in wood continually ....or like electricity to the light bulb...
How does one get the Holy Spirit power? Well by doing the things that feed one's soul. Prayer...praise ...worship....reading scripture...thinking talking behaving morally...trusting/faith.
Believing what the a Word says.
If it says Jesus loves me ....then don't ask I wonder if Jesus loves me just as I am ?
Don't ask Wonder if God will forgive me if I ask Him too.
Faith or trust the Word is fact. His promises are for everyone. Do not think oh god will forgive Robert and A boater ...but not me !
Anyways back to that Sunday night service. The pastor says that it is impossible to live the Christian walk on your own power. The weeds will start to grow back...sin pride lust fear hate greedy temptations if the Christian stops daily praying. Kinda like a tire with a leak gets flat...gotta blow up the tire with air daily to keep it inflated.
So ok he finishes his talk. Trust in the Holy Spirit to anoint you daily so your life will shine ...Galatians ch 5 tells it this way ...Flesh vs the Spirit ( or is it...Spirit vs flesh ? )
Kinda like I want to do good but this evil side wins out.....but if you have the a Holy Spirit powering you the good controls you ...love joy peace...
In fact if you go to church & just get info about God you will be so bored & disappointed.
Like eating a sandwich with sawdust as the filling. Not tasty.
Going to church & not having the Holy Spirit ....your going to have dry boring religion ...person will say : can't stand it !!!
But if you feel the presence of God then your faith is exciting because in your heart you know you have a personal real fellowship /relationship. It's not just a dry religion or story of Jesus back 2000 yrs ago.
So.....after the evening service people talk ...get their coats ...go home...
But this time it's different .
About 25-20 of us do not leave. Nothing was announced on the mic for people to stay.
So why did some of us stay behind ?
The main pastor left...the speaker from USA left....80% of the people left.
I asked " your not leaving? No Your staying Yes ..so on.
One guy Darwin F. was attending Bible school & would get papers...to be a pastor ( ordained ) stayed too.
That 's good because he had keys to lock the church could set the alarm.
I stayed 3 hours but left just after 22 or 12:30 am because my job started at 7 am.
Maybe about 10 were still there when I left. Darwin F. & another guy left at 5 am.
So why why or what would make us stay ? God's Presence !!!
It literally felt like ya could cut thru the presence with a pair of scissors ...
The Presence of a God was so "thick" or just so present we just did not want to leave.
I mean if God was there in an extra powerful way...why leave?
This is special.
One new Christian was there ( his one arm was partly missing ) and the Presence came on him so greatly he fell down on the carpet & just laid there.
They call that being slain in the Spirit.
Another Christian lady from Jamaica but living now in Canada clapped her hands & just laughed !!!
Like the Presence of God was on her so greatly guess she just could not contain it.
But the rest of us just sat in chairs ( they were not pews in that church. ) or stood ...but just like soaked in this extra visitation of God
Darwin told me when he & other guy left God's Presence was still there in a powerful way.
But the next service everything was back to normal...sing songs read announcements sermon passed the plate sing songs service over...socialize ...go home. Presence of God there but 99% less so to say.
Not as powerful. Ha !
Like a 5hp outboard to a 150 hp outboard dif. ha !
Then to top it all off one pastor who was a pastor at a gov. institution job ...attended the church but he'd only preach 1x a yr maybe...he just attended like a regular church goer.
Well he did not stay that night ...but his idea was what happened must of been the devil >:( :o
Some other members had that same idea.
Ya right! God would just let the devil walk in to the church & do this !
Plus the Bible talks about Moses seeing the burning bush...
Saul who was against Christians had a bright light shine on him & he fell off his horse & God talks to him. Well Saul who name became Paul became a believer after that. He wrote a lot of the New Testament as the Holy Spirit inspired him to write.
On and on...the night I prayed from my heart in a Williams Lake in 1973 and asked God if He was real...well I had a big time encounter...no not crazy or drugs or green pickle and ice cream..
And interesting this visitation happened after a message about the Holy Spirit to be part of your daily walk living the Christian life.
God is alive & can be experience...just knowing about Him like history lesson ...well that 's dry boring religion if that 's all a person has.
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If you ask how do you know this Jesus info is fact?
Simply I've felt His Holy Spirit ( presence. ) in my life. Invisible yes...
Wait...what? It's fact because you 'felt' something that is invisible?
The presence of God is akin to the power of an outboard? 2 stroke or?
The Holy Spirit is .... like tasty sawdust? Cedar?
Well that settles it then... clear as mud
Sign me up.... not ::)
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Wait...what? It's fact because you 'felt' something that is invisible?
The presence of God is akin to the power of an outboard? 2 stroke or?
The Holy Spirit is .... like tasty sawdust? Cedar?
Well that settles it then... clear as mud
Sign me up.... not ::)
I wonder this approach would have worked in my biol 100 exam. ;)
This is why Trump is so appealing to the lowest common denominator.
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A-Boater... Believe what you like .... it's your life. But facts are facts .... conjecture does not qualify as fact
I am of the opinion that 'religion' is the biggest, most corrupt, con game going.
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And now I think about what Robert said about fishing/fish itself being an idol. I get that perspective and thanks.
There are bigger things in life than fishing. Although nothing wrong with making a career with something you enjoy such as fishing.
You're welcome...and it's true, God did design and create us to seek pleasure in this life and enjoy it....using it in a Godly way, but always giving credit to the creator....not the creation itself.
Such an easy trap to fall into it. I've been guilty of it enough times....
Exactly, they are in it for the money and nothing else.
As already stated...many of them are, but Jesus the Apostle Paul taught plainly....Real Christians cannot be like that.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
Luke 16:13
13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.”
There you go...that is one major way you can tell the difference of which ones are fakes and which ones are genuine.
You've got this backwards. Atheism is not a belief system and is actually the exact opposite.
If I claim to have landed a 800lb coho, you would be right to question it if I provide no evidence. The onus is not on you to prove that giant coho don't exist, it's on me to prove that they do. Being a mega-coho atheist requires no faith whatsoever, nor is it a belief system; it's the logical conclusion to a outrageous claim supported by no evidence whatsoever.
It's not like that. The Grand Theory of Evolution (GTE) is only a very loose base theory at best. I'll tell you why that is. Just as I can't prove physically that there is a God, you cannot physically or scientifically even...prove that matter can appear into existence out of nothing. No scientist has ever anywhere on the planet, or even in a controlled experiment been able to produce matter into existence out of nothing. But THAT is what had to have happened for the GTE to be true. With that said....for someone to believe in something with zero evidence, no documentation, not even a reliable theory.....MUST HAVE FAITH THAT IT DID HAPPEN.....and if you have to have faith in something, then it becomes a belief system....and although I can't physically prove God, there is more than enough reliable evidence to support the belief in Jesus and that He was raised from the dead.
On another note ….more and more debating atheists have even stopped arguing that GTE doesn't require faith that it happened...again making it a belief system. More and more now agree that it does take at least some type of faith to believe in GTE.
So when it comes to faith and a belief system....you and I are no different in that regard.
In other words it's not so wishy washy hope so faith but in his heart he knows 1000 % the God he believes in exists & is not a fairytale.
I believe the current number of countries this 'fairytale' is banned in is currently 52.
Someone please enlighten me as to why anyone or any government law would ban a fairytale from being sold in a book store...or even owned privately.
The bible is banned in so many countries because Satan has taken over the hearts and minds of their leaders and convinced them with much deception that the bible should not be allowed to be read by people.
In the logical common sense realm....NO ONE BANS FAIRYTALES.....think about it...use some common sense...ask yourself....how does a fairytale get banned?
Wait...what? It's fact because you 'felt' something that is invisible?
The presence of God is akin to the power of an outboard? 2 stroke or?
The Holy Spirit is .... like tasty sawdust? Cedar?
Well that settles it then... clear as mud
Sign me up.... not ::)
Trying to explain The Holy Spirit to an unbeliever is one of the hardest things to do. Anyone who belongs to God will give you testimony of their experience with what The Holy Spirit has done and worked in their lives. These same people before coming to Jesus would say the same things you just did.
What you are missing here is that Christians have been on both sides of the fence. I have been on your side of the fence. You have never been on my side of the fence. When I was on your side of the fence, I felt the same when Christians explained The Holy Spirit to me, but then I got saved and like every other Christian....had my own personal experience with The Holy Spirit working in my life.
Only knowing 1 side of the fence, you cannot know, nor can you argue with someone who has been on both sides of the fence. If you've only vacationed in Mexico but your friend has vacationed in both Mexico and Costa Rica.....how do you argue with him about what a vacation in Costa Rica is like? You can't. You would have no idea what you're talking about. Experiencing The Holy Spirit is similar....if you don't know Him and haven't experienced Him, then you can't have an opinion on Him....just like the guy who's never vacationed in Costa Rica can't have an opinion on what its like to have a vacation in Costa Rica.
The Holy Spirit is real and many of our interactions with Him cannot be explained by the laws of science. God transcends all of that, so He is bigger than what our minds can understand.
I can promise you this....if you do ever experience Him yourself, you will be chomping at the bit to tell others about your experience.
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Wait...what? It's fact because you 'felt' something that is invisible?
The presence of God is akin to the power of an outboard? 2 stroke or?
The Holy Spirit is .... like tasty sawdust? Cedar?
Well that settles it then... clear as mud
Sign me up.... not ::)
Talk about twisting ...tried to give example that the fishing crowd understands ...outboard engines ..
Said most of the services I attended the presence of the Holy Spirit was there but "sensed it less" like a 5 hp. .... but that one special service when the extra Presence was in the service...like a higher power outboard. 1plus 1 equals 2
The sawdust has nothing to do with Presence of God.
If you try church ( but not reach out to God ) you got just religion , brainwashing,programming ...like so sandwich filled with sawdust ( not tasty. ) ya got churchanity but not Christianity ...that 's why Luther protested...he said ritual or religious rules is counterfeit to what salvation is.
Wear this hat ...do this , rules ..like someone mentioned in one past post.
Saying that though have met many Protestants & Catholics who have a walk with God.
Met some I ? though ( Catholics /Protestants ) that seemed to be eating sandwiches filled with sawdust ;D
1plus 1 equals 2 ....simple at lest to me. Do you understand ? 8)
Notice a Robert has posted as I'm about to post.
( Hi Robert & hi to all... Robert I truly hope these guys will be singing that country gospel song one day
" I seen the Light " not to be confused with that other hit " I seen the sawdust sandwich "
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I wonder this approach would have worked in my biol 100 exam. ;)
This is why Trump is so appealing to the lowest common denominator.
Fake news ...Rodney.
Pres. Trump is not ashamed of the gospel and of The Lord.
That in my books makes him one of the greatest pres. of all time.
Do not watch those late night talk shows...more fake news.
Story ...two guys see this street preacher. Offers them two gospel tracts ..one guy takes one..other guy mocks....hey this preacher is nuts ...hear come the judge here come the judge...( mocking. ) he 's a religious fanatic...guys who preach this stuff should be locked up in a mental ward.
Giver me this track ..rip rip rip ..come on let's Go...
The 2 guys get in a car ...other guy says well guess your right ...religion is for weak people.
Other guy ..like I said a Stand on your own 2 feet ...these preachers are wackos bozos ...
Railroad crossing ahead. Passenger guy..Go go speed up we can make it ....
Driver it's going to be close...
Bang Smash Boom ...car T boned.
Next thing...2 guys are in hell.
One guy: hey you were wrong. That preacher was telling the truth !
Other guy: no buddy ..you were wrong. He puts his hand at his chin & peals off a mask ....the real identity is revealed: satan's face !!!
As Robert said: the Prince of darkness is blinding people's minds.
I think Robert & I will be praying for FWR group.
Prayer does change things & can push back the forces of darkness.
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bobby b yes your right religion is the most corrupt con game going...
90% of religion are false/ cults....but there is the Way the Truth & The Life.
Godhead : Trinity: Father Jesus Holy Spirit
Like a clover leaf is 1 leaf with 3 leafs.
Or h2o water ice steam
Hey Rodney ya say...wonder how this approach works in your biology 100 exam!
;D
Rod in that same church in New West mentioned that I attended for 7 yrs...
well there was a member named Fred K
He was a biology teacher at S. Burnaby High.
In fact he invited me to speak in the High School.
Knees kinda shock but said ok.
Guess I'm like Elvis before he went out on stage. He had stage fright. But when he got out there he calmed down and did his thing.
Anyways it was just in a classrm. Myself and another lady told our testimony.
The lady Brenda S. Once was a witch. She had a "spirit guide"ghostly figure appear in her room that could converse. ( demon) ...her ouija board would levitate off the table by itself....she used tarot cards...
But Christians shared with her the real power behind the occult. Christians lived in the same apt building where she lived.
She prayed & got saved.
One of the most joyful talented believers I ever met she was. Very anointed by the Holy Spirit.
But get this ...one student was walking in the hallway and found out Brenda and I would be sharing our testimony from past occult to coming to know God.
This student had a satanic bible in his hands !
Thought he'd be aggressive to words us but to my surprise he went to the school intercom & announced thru out the school ( speakers in classrms and hallways lunchrm ...) Come to room ( whatever # it was)
and heard an ex witch etc ...tell their story.
Minutes later ...from 10 students ...the classrm got packed.
Ha!
Spoken in total 3 secular high schools ...a few churches...college so my speaking is limited...
But I give out tracts ...& strike up conversations...
Only when I get to heaven will I see how many people got saved thru the effort.
Maybe 1-2 or 10 but who knows maybe 100s maybe 1000s .
Like Covid 19 ..1 person spreads it to others.
Get a person saved & they get so excited they share it with others...snowball effect.
Met a mailman yrs later and he became a Christian I found out. He told me he got saved because of the info I shared with him yrs before.
One fellow wkr. at a psy. gr home I shared my testimony with...years later bumped into him in a store.
He told me he gave his heart to God. He said it was from what I shared with him.
Only happened 2 times...mailman & fellow wkr at a group home.
But that sure made my day.
God works in mysterious ways.
Robert by the way really enjoy all your points you make.
20/20 .
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Someone should tell the greatest president of all times to tell the Governor of New York and other states inflicted with the Covid 19 to tell their medical people not to place people in ICU, ventilators, respirators. Just have the inflicted pray and they will be all be saved. Pandemic over. Everything back to normal. We can all watch hockey, football, basketball, baseball
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As the other member mentioned, there’s no stopping.
Freedom of speech is alive and well on FWR, so is the criticism and gentle insults.
If it doesn’t stop I’ll assume it’s okay to make new topics including polls, non fishing related since this is such an amazing platform with many different viewpoints. No shortage of topics, I’ll start tomorrow haha
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Someone should tell the greatest president of all times to tell the Governor of New York and other states inflicted with the Covid 19 to tell their medical people not to place people in ICU, ventilators, respirators. Just have the inflicted pray and they will be all be saved. Pandemic over. Everything back to normal. We can all watch hockey, football, basketball, baseball
Actually Christians maybe should kinda want to catch Covid 19 & die....heaven is such so good place the Good Book says...so why wait..let's die & get to heaven sooner Yippie heaven here I come sooner than later... Oh wait a dog gone minute...we we believers get Covid 19 & go to heaven who will be left to share the gospel? Who will be left to pray for guys like FA to see the light !
Who I say who I say will be lifting up the candle for all to see there's a light in the darkness... ;D
Guess we believers are to be used to do the will of The Lord....so for your sake we'll stay longer ....
:)
FA your not the only one who misses a good hockey game or the coming whenever CFL season. I do too.
But so many are dying suffering ...it 's so sad...do not even want to drink even 1/2 bottle of red wine & enjoy an Elvis concert on YT.
How can I celebrate when so many are dying with Covid 19.
Mourning for those that are suffering grieving & dying.
Let's hope this plague stops soon.
Kosher salt
If someone starts reading page 1 of this topic ....then keeps reading ....what !!! Unbelievers arguing believers believers arguing unbelievers stance they are going to be one surprised cookie.
But in these crazy times think it's good just to have a meeting of the minds.
Robert and I do not think we are better than anyone.
Robert & I got in the lifeboat ...ship is taking on water....come over here guys /dolls get in the lifeboat ..lots of room. We share because we want you in heaven with us. John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8&9 free gift.
Way out.
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Why don't you write another essay
FFS lol... again, I pity those who have to deal with you 24/7, imagine the amount of energy and time wasted listening to that
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Why don't you write another essay
FFS lol... again, I pity those who have to deal with you 24/7, imagine the amount of energy and time wasted listening to that
Robert writes long comments too.
Well I'll make this one short & sweet.
Was writing long essays ( as you say. ) because some of you got a hard head...trying our best to explain it or share it. But as Robert said we have been on both side of the fence...you only one side.
Al keep it short. ( talking to myself. )
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Kosher salt
If someone starts reading page 1 of this topic ....then keeps reading ....what !!! Unbelievers arguing believers believers arguing unbelievers stance they are going to be one surprised cookie.
But in these crazy times think it's good just to have a meeting of the minds.
Robert and I do not think we are better than anyone.
Robert & I got in the lifeboat ...ship is taking on water....come over here guys /dolls get in the lifeboat ..lots of room. We share because we want you in heaven with us. John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8&9 free gift.
Way out.
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I ain’t got a problem with you bro, how can I? You wish me that maybe I’ll go to heaven.
Keep doing you, I’m just giving a heads up of new topics coming I may post. A solution to #covidboredom
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Kosher salt
If someone starts reading page 1 of this topic ....then keeps reading ....what !!! Unbelievers arguing believers believers arguing unbelievers stance they are going to be one surprised cookie.
But in these crazy times think it's good just to have a meeting of the minds.
Robert and I do not think we are better than anyone.
Robert & I got in the lifeboat ...ship is taking on water....come over here guys /dolls get in the lifeboat ..lots of room. We share because we want you in heaven with us. John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8&9 free gift.
Way out.
I ain’t got a problem with you bro, how can I? You wish me that maybe I’ll go to heaven.
Keep doing you, I’m just giving a heads up of new topics coming I may post. A solution to #covidboredom
Ya say: You wish me that maybe I'll go to heaven.
Well that is a hope you can have. Go to heaven.
Ya just have to have a heart talk with Jesus and tell Him that if He's for real come into your life.
Watch what happens if you really mean that prayer.
Jesus is the same yesterday today forever....(Bible)
Put your cares on Him because He cares for you ( Bible )
While we were yet sinners Christ died for us (Bible )
Whosoever calls on the name of The Lord shall be saved ( Bible )
For this purpose Christ came into the world to destroy the works of the devil (Bible)
These are verses that are just coming to my mind right now.
Go to youtube and in the search box type in :
CBN testimonies.
(100s if not 1000s of people will tell on how they got saved ! Their story.)
Was looking at some tonight and one I liked on youtube :
exotic dancer finds freedom from demonic attacks.
Another on youtube was:
Living in her car- Finding a new home with God -cbn.com Dec 28 2018
This girl had no hope but ...
Anyone ever heard of Skillet rock group.
The band is very ROCK but members very strong Christians.
Check out their music. Maybe for some it may be music ya like. On youtube.
Just info...listening to others stories about how they got saved ...brings the idea or thought..."well if they got saved why not me too ."
Another verse: Not by might not by power but by My Spirit says The Lord.
One powerful story just came to me that was on youtube years ago ...hope it is still on :
Youtube vid: Hooked Ernie Hollands
Canadian criminal who got saved.
Or youtube vids on Nicky Cruz ex gang leader NYC
Youtube : The Jesus Film this gospel film is available in over 900 languages ( on youtube )
So if ya want check these above info.
Whenever your ready God will be ready ...we have to make the first move to Him in prayer as God never forces Himself.
It 's real ...and getting to heaven will be the ultimate.
I mean who wants to go to hell forever.
Just sharing ...not arm twisting.
But hey if ya ever give your life to God you can do everything you like now fishing hunting etc...
It is about a walk with Him.
Prayer reading mainly New Testament etc...
Church is good but find a good one..not JW not Mormon ...
If the church is pushy just leave it.
Ya can pray from your house and read scripture.
Anyways if ya ever pray from your heart you do it on your timeline...when your ready ...might be soon or in 1 -2 -3 yrs or 10-20 yrs from now who knows.
But we are not promised tomorrow...
We could die in a car accident or what ever.
Edit in: ( a few days later )
To believe in no God ? Then you have to ask yourself where & how did the universe start ?
Oh evolution explains that you might say.
To have so Big Bang & matter & substance ...where did it come from ?
Romans 1:20 in Romans ch 1,anyways ( maybe 1:10. ) ...it says that seeing the very creation moon stars animals mountains ocean ..the awe complexity of nature people in their heart KNOW their is a Creator or "Higher Power"
And goes on ...so they ( you & me ) have no excuse not to believe.
The Word of God says that by shear logic , like the nose on our face we know there is a God.
To do your own thing ...it's nice to say " you are your own god "
No guidelines to tell people what is good or evil.
Plus if a person says there's no god then who makes up the rules to life.
That person then says to him murder rape stealing is ok. He answers to only himself as he thinks when I die there will be no judgement. Only a grave. & nothingness.
A painting ...logic says there is a painter.
A house ....logic says there was a carpender.
Watch ...logic says there was a watch maker.
This world / universe / galaxies .....there has to be a "higher power" a Creator .......God.
Once you can admit there has to be a God by simple logic ...the real ????? is who is God what religion is correct?
Here is the big maze.
Let 's just say there are 4 people claiming to be Mr Brown born Feb 12 1941 ( ID theft. )
One of the men is real Mr Brown of Feb 12 1941.
The other 3 are deceivers / false & who knows maybe they got hit by a coconut on their head & think they are truly the real Mr Brown.
Ok the same with "who is this higher Power ? "
Logic says there is a God behind all what we see.
Earth traveling 68,000 miles per hr around the sun every 365 ..and our house apt townhouse is still standing? Salmon returning to spawn location....finger print ..DNA ...
There's a lot of people claiming they have the true religion. (Like Mr Browns )
Here is the mystery.
The maze.
Not if a God exists.
Pure logic says there is a God / higher power.
That is a gimme.
The mystery is which religion is fact & the true one.
Robert_G & I say we have found the answer.
There is such a battle & spiritual warfare & deception going on.
The devil is trying everything he can to keep you from the Godhead. Father/Jesus/Holy Spirit.
1000000000000 s of tricks he has.
( why God allowed satan/ demons to be on earth when He made Adam and Eve is a puzzle... God in my thinking should of put them on Mars ha ! )
Even on Christ mas Day when the focus should be on Jesus 100% .
Santa gets 90% of the attention & Jesus 10%.
Smoke screen / detour off the one who is the only one that can forgive our sins and give us salvation.
Jesus forget it....Santa Santa Santa...gives me toys ..Santa in malls parades tv commercials in print ...
Put up a manger scene in the mall ....all hell breaks loose.
Take that down ...now!!!
Interesting to note...santa letters rearranged spells Satan. What are the odds of that ?
Easter about Jesus. ? .....Easter bunny chocolates.....
The battle is on.
Only a prayer directed to Jesus from your heart will reveal the big answer to this mystery of who this higher power / God is.
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Was out this morning on my local lake. Everyone seemed to be practicing social distancing. Very good to see.
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A-boater take your meds, wowwww
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A-boater take your meds, wowwww
Only take 2 meds for heart plus baby aspirin. I even chop it in 4 as really try to just let healthy food be my medicine. ( aspirin chopped in 4 pieces. )
Doc always prescribes statins but I tell pharmacy not to fill it. Too much neg. info about statins.
When you write "take your meds" reminds me of my two doctors ( one a specialist ) Take your statins.
As for my long post before Chris's ......I do not need meds. Blame it on drinking 100 pots of coffee daily.
Down to 50 pots of coffee so my comments/posts are 50% shorter. ::)
So am not going to take this off subject.
Chris brought it back on tracks. ( topic )
Wash your hands wash your hands ( do not kiss beautiful girl on lips if tempted / ya may give her or she may give you something...do not rub noses even )
The soooooooner we beat this ...the sooooooner everything gets back to normal.
If this virus stays for too long and never leaves ...then by that time life still goes back to semi normal.
We just are forced to go to work...shop in malls ...etc...fish hunt camping ...but we will all be wearing masks ....using hand sanitizer....and keep 6 ft apart most times.
New cars will have hand sanitizer dispensers ...and face masks storage.
Conversation in future for example :
Hi George long time no see.
Yes hi Bill.
Did you hear Tony died by heart attack ? No
And Sam died by cancer. Ya don't say.
Oh Tom Pat Judy Bobby Toni died too. Covid ya know. Gee that's too bad.
Hope the future world gets back to normal so we do not have stories like George and Bill.
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Oh my.... lol
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Oh my.... lol
I've got so many personal / other stories that would make a person's hair stand straight up in the air. Plus other positive stories...
JK47 thinks I'm crazy and need my psy. meds. ;D
Yes Corvid we cannot see and believe me there is another "evil one"we cannot see.
But heard tonight that our dogs/cat possibly can catch Corvid 19.
Not sure if they get sick but the problem is if they can catch it..can an infected pet pass it to other dogs/cats if they smell each other 's noses ...and can a pet breathing close to us pass the virus to humans.
If so....we had better keep our pets away from other animals.
This virus gets stranger by the day.
Edit in: nearly 1000 died in Britain today.
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I've got so many personal / other stories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
Well that is ok.
In the end we will see whom is correct...
But at least we can agree you and I should care about Corvid 19.
Heartbreaking stories.
Close to home. A Richmond dad 47 yrs old? dies from the virus.
Leaves behind a wife & young child.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVHTJt-UwAEwNOL?format=jpg&name=medium)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLUkgRAy_Vo
I came on site to see what's been going and reading from the top to about the middle I was thinking...wtf? (People losing their minds?)...Then got to this point and killed myself laughing.
I guess self isolation does have it's moments.
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I came on site to see what's been going and reading from the top to about the middle I was thinking...wtf? (People losing their minds?)...Then got to this point and killed myself laughing.
I guess self isolation does have it's moments.
Ya self isolation does have it 's moments. ;D
It makes some stop and think....hey there are billions that actually believe like A Boater.
Millions have higher education.
One of the very top respected psychiatrists who has a practice in the State of New York of course believes in mental illness in it's various forms but he is on record to say:
Some of his patients he says were demon possessed ! wtf?(people losing your minds?)
This psychiatrist was talking to another person about a patient and suddenly a voice came on the phone...YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HELP HER...SHE'S MINE...
Psychiatrist asks the other person...did you just hear what I heard?
Yes I did.
When your deceived you do not know your in that state.
Killed yourself laughing!
Good luck...in the next world with those views. You will be weeping, not laughing.
Believe as you will but ya better keep one eye open on the possibility Robert_G and I and billions thru history ...believe. Happy Easter Week to you.
The Exorcist ...just may be more real than what meets the eye.
Richmond man 47 self isolating at home dies...fever....
I've met in public 3x where they were coughing very badly. 3-4 coughs in 3/4 secs.
2 of those looked really sick !
Why were they out walking on dyke ?
Other one was a cashier.
Today on news the numbers of predicted / projected deaths are from 22,000 to 50,000 in Canada.
Gospel mission & Salvation Army holding a fund raising ...2 million in 2 weeks.
To help the homeless.
Franklin Graham ( son of Billy Graham ) has Samaritain's Purse organization ( help all over the world ) has set up big medical tents in some NYC park ....treating the infected.
We have a long way to go.
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Nobody has ever seen them but I believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Loch Ness monster, Sasquatch
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A-BOATER...you assume too much... Matthew 7:3
If you're a true Christian reading out of the KJB you'll know what it means.
There's a big difference between witnessing with zeal and out right preaching to those who are unsaved.
The true church is the spirit within yourself...not what roof stands above your head.
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Nobody has ever seen them but I believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Loch Ness monster, Sasquatch
You forgot the Boogeyman and Chupacabra! I believe in Darwin and the theory of evolution, there is no god. All this religion crap doesn't belong here!!!!!
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You forgot the Boogeyman and Chupacabra! I believe in Darwin and the theory of evolution, there is no god. All this religion crap doesn't belong here!!!!!
Seconded! Please take crazy elsewhere, we are definitely all stocked up here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz5-8chSlk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz5-8chSlk)
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You forgot the Boogeyman and Chupacabra! I believe in Darwin and the theory of evolution, there is no god. All this religion crap doesn't belong here!!!!!
You're right this is not the place for it. But just to clarify...Faith and Religion are two different things...Faith doesn't create wars.
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Holy Moly. This place. Sasquatch for PM !!!!!!
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A-BOATER...you assume too much... Matthew 7:3
If you're a true Christian reading out of the KJB you'll know what it means.
There's a big difference between witnessing with zeal and out right preaching to those who are unsaved.
The true church is the spirit within yourself...not what roof stands above your head.
Chris brought the trend back on the "tracks " and I commented on Corvid 19.
Then someone took a jab ..." A-boater take your meds " ( like I'm crazy ) ;D
Then I responded.
Then another jab ..."Who cares" ;D
Then another says ... "wtf....laughing"
So I respond that a world famous psychiatrist says " demon activity is real....many other psychiatrists mental health care wkrs also have concluded the demonic is real...
So I respond to 3 jabs that took the trend off topic ...after Chris...and Nog got it on track.
After my response to the 3 jabs I made sure to mention info about Corvid 19.
Now yous again bring it off trend. ;D
If you just talk on Corvid -19 I will too.
As for your recent jabs.... ;D
If there's a murder / robber loose in the neighbourhood guess ...I'm so bad if I give a warning to my neighbours to take caution.
Yous can believe what you will...but it doesn't change the facts.
What you are saying all these psychiatrists that believe in the demonic realm is the problem in "some " people who act strangely ARE YOU SAYING THESE PSYCHIATRISTS are LIARS?
That is convenient I guess if they see the world dif. than you.
You have a sq. box.
Anything that comes up outside that box you discount automatically.
Ok so ya say let's stick to CORVID 19.
I agree.
But if you jab me ...I'll fire back ;D
Me I've only revealed just a tip of the iceberg.
As for corvid 19 think people are getting it finally.
Went out for a bike ride and when people got near each other ...the Red Sea parted.... :)
People made sure they kept their distance.
Got home and gargled with strong mouthwash ( one that kills germs ) and hand sanitizer.
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I thought it was covid19 not Corvid19. There is certainly a concern about someone being a symptomatic and bringing it into a small community with with a small medical resources pool. Virus does not travel...people travel.
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I thought it was covid19 not Corvid19. There is certainly a concern about someone being a symptomatic and bringing it into a small community with with a small medical resources pool. Virus does not travel...people travel.
It’s COVID-19, not CORVID-19. A corvid is of the crow family.
19 crows are not gathering to kill you.
But if they are...it’s a murder.
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A-BOATER...you assume too much... Matthew 7:3
If you're a true Christian reading out of the KJB you'll know what it means.
I don't think using that scripture to A-Boater is fair. He's been very humble with his posts.
On top of that, this is another particular verse that unbelievers cherry pick against Christians as a catch-all-rebuttal. In fact, that verse is so abused it doesn't even phase us anymore when people say it against us. Again...A-Boater does not deserve that used against him.
There's a big difference between witnessing with zeal and out right preaching to those who are unsaved.
The best witnessing involves both. Zeal must include self control, but zeal in witnessing and proclaiming God's word can move mountains.
The true church is the spirit within yourself...not what roof stands above your head.
Whatever that means. I'll try and reword it correctly for you. (and I mean that in a nice way)
"The true church is God's chosen people who are filled with The Holy Spirit and are united under the headship of Jesus Christ. With that said....no building, organization, or religious anything apart from Jesus is the true church"
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It’s COVID-19, not CORVID-19. A corvid is of the crow family.
19 crows are not gathering to kill you.
But if they are...it’s a murder.
Your talents are wasted with this crowd ::)
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Corvid 19 .....let me pull an Adam and Eve ....after they sinned...excuses...did not want to take blame.
Me admit I mis spelled.
No way .
It was this IPAD auto spell checker. ;D
Corvid ....hey I like this word.
If I ever have a son ( gee I'm 65 yr old ) but if I ever have a son...I'll name him Rodney Corvid surname.
Or Chris Corvid surname or A boater Corvid surname or....
Or drug companies like new names for their meds....buy Corvid only $50 for 10 pills good for whatever ills you. Only 5000 possible side effects...and should Corvid have side effects on you then we have Corvid II $100 for 10 pills only possible 10 side effects. :o
Thanks Robert_G for your support.
You are a man of God. :) Heard Pres. Trump say people isolating at home have time to pray / read verses. If people think it's tiring to read scripture on web any one can have scripture read on vids.
Gospel of John is a good place. Easter week so why not?
Oh on youtube in another room a vid is playing: Angels Billy Graham. ( vid is just audio but so good )
Ya Rodney I'm going to have to check that out. Crows or whatever. :)
Went to a shopping centre and into a Shoppers Drug & there were so many people inside. Impossible to keep 6 ft apart at all times.
You would think they would allow only x number customers inside and as one exists another is allowed to go in.
Like they do at Freshco and Safeway stores in Richmond. Too crowded in that Shoppers today. >:(
Stay safe FWR members. Wash hands wash hands wash hands.
I even wash my oranges in soapy water in the am just incase COVID virus is on the peel. ( part of breakfast )
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Your talents are wasted with this crowd ::)
lol... Honestly haven't been reading any of it, I have much more important things to do.
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The best witnessing involves both. Zeal must include self control, but zeal in witnessing and proclaiming God's word can move mountains.
Proclamation to oneself as a believer...yes. But to preach with too much zeal can push one over the cliff when the intent is to witness.
Isaiah 7:15
Matthew 27:34
Whatever that means. I'll try and reword it correctly for you. (and I mean that in a nice way)
...and here lies the root of why religion create conflicts. You take what I say (without asking for clarification) and assume to correct me.
Read the whole book of Matthews out of KJ's and maybe you'll get a blessing to what I'm actually saying.
Anyway as said before this is not the forum for this discussion so with respect, I'll end my debate here. God Bless and stay safe.
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Proclamation to oneself as a believer...yes. But to preach with too much zeal can push one over the cliff when the intent is to witness.
Isaiah 7:15
Matthew 27:34
...and here lies the root of why religion create conflicts. You take what I say (without asking for clarification) and assume to correct me.
Read the whole book of Matthews out of KJ's and maybe you'll get a blessing to what I'm actually saying.
Anyway as said before this is not the forum for this discussion so with respect, I'll end my debate here. God Bless and stay safe.
My observations is the majority of churches have watered down the gospel message.
Churches think it's more important to be the social gospel movement...feed shelter human rights are more important than sharing how to get "saved" and miss hell.
It's watered down so much that christians on the most part are not concerned or alarmed that a supernatural war is going on.
As people die and go into a Godless eternity...weeping and gnashing of teeth...crys and screams forever...the church is having meetings when & what color to paint the church building exterior.
Read the sower and the seed in the gospel.
Birds eat some of the seeds...read on...and Jesus explains who the birds are in the parable.
Yes the powers of darkness.
We are living in a plague. Covid 19.
Cases may skyrocket and possibly not go down.
People are hopeful but also fearful.
Some families there is abuse because of stress...females kids have filled the shelters.
These times have brought out the worst in some families.
People should be aware there is an anchor ! He is Jesus.
He is greater than Covid 19 ...He's greater than death.
It's Good Friday ...yes it's good Jesus died on the cross.
It's the rescue mission.
People need an anchor in the storms of life.
The storm right now is this plague Covid 19 but also we need this anchor on our last day on earth.
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Well, before the ferries dragging over vacationers at 95% capacity, the Island was headed in the right direction:
https://www.cheknews.ca/vancouver-island-covid-19-cases-slowing-660729/
Now I actually shudder to think of what the new numbers will look like once all the invaders from the LML drag their diseased butts home...
Nog
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My sister works at langdale terminal and she said loads of people heading over to Sunshine Coast yesterday
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It's sort of like the walking dead. :o
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McDonald beach boat launch appears to open for buisness.trucks and empty trailers in parking lot.
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My sister works at langdale terminal and she said loads of people heading over to Sunshine Coast yesterday
One of my daughters works there too, lots heading over probably for Gambier and Keats Islands
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One of my daughters works there too, lots heading over probably for Gambier and Keats Islands
Once again covidiots are going to ruin everything. If a complete lockdown happens, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Selfish people
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South Korean officials on Friday reported that 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again.
Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), told a briefing that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being re-infected.
South Korean health officials said it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still underway.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-korea-coronavirus-covid19-reactivated-positive-1.5529066
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Is there a ferry from langdale to gambier ? Curious why people would go to langdale to get to gambier ?
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South Korean officials on Friday reported that 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again.
Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), told a briefing that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being re-infected.
South Korean health officials said it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still underway.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-korea-coronavirus-covid19-reactivated-positive-1.5529066
Oh man...people get Covid -19 and get better and then get sick again.
Thinking it re activates ...or who knows maybe it can do both ...re activate and also people can get re- infected. ( but would not there be antibodies formed )
So...it 's like a forrest fire put out 99.9999% and think the person has recovered and then flare up ( re activates ) .
Listerine 65% alcohol is good to gargle.
Drink very hot water...virus does not like heat.
Wash cloths in hot soapy water.
Maybe Listerine can be used as hand sanitizer ?
Bleach the one with 5% sodium hypochlorite used at 4 teaspoons to litre ratio to clean surfaces the gov. website says.
So would this not be a good mix for hand sanitizer too ?
But did hear a video that says 1 part bleach to 5 parts water for hand sanitizer.
Quite strong.
If I used that....wash hands with soap/water after words.
Ferries busy. Only means there must be socializing...
Unless LMD people travel by ferry to buy eggs toilet paper as local stores are out. ::)
19 Canadians died either yesterday or today.
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I'd be pissed if I was a resident of one of the gulf islands. Residents could set up a blockade at the ferry terminal, like the FN did on the highway in Port Alberni a few weeks ago. I thought it was an extreme reaction at the time but understand better now where that feeling of frustration comes from.
Albertans coming here. BC residents going to the islands. Even locals going to the interior, or even just Hope and Chilliwack. All of that travel carries a degree of risk to everyone else. People justify it because you're outside and at least 6 feet away from others while fishing... but the risk comes from getting to and from the fishing spot: stopping for gas, snacks, lunch. Parking in busy lots. Passing others on the trails. Taking the ferry. Giving others the excuse to leave home because everyone else is doing it.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-bc-travel-small-towns-1.5529472
"We don't interact with anybody outside of ourselves and our own property and we're far away from other people," said one passenger, who identified himself only as Rob. He acknowledged locals' concerns, but said they weren't enough to cancel the trip. "I'm not too worried. Bring in a helicopter to take us out [if we get sick]," he said."
Selfish jerk. If he brings an outbreak to Galiano, it'll be in two weeks when he's long gone. These small islands aren't equipped to deal with an outbreak if it flares up.
Doesn't anybody else have elderly family members they're worried about? Why do so many people seem to care so little? I'm in a low-risk category for Covid but I worry about my extended family members.
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I'd be pissed if I was a resident of one of the gulf islands. Residents could set up a blockade at the ferry terminal, like the FN did on the highway in Port Alberni a few weeks ago. I thought it was an extreme reaction at the time but understand better now where that feeling of frustration comes from.
Albertans coming here. BC residents going to the islands. Even locals going to the interior, or even just Hope and Chilliwack. All of that travel carries a degree of risk to everyone else. People justify it because you're outside and at least 6 feet away from others while fishing... but the risk comes from getting to and from the fishing spot: stopping for gas, snacks, lunch. Parking in busy lots. Passing others on the trails. Taking the ferry. Giving others the excuse to leave home because everyone else is doing it.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-bc-travel-small-towns-1.5529472
"We don't interact with anybody outside of ourselves and our own property and we're far away from other people," said one passenger, who identified himself only as Rob. He acknowledged locals' concerns, but said they weren't enough to cancel the trip. "I'm not too worried. Bring in a helicopter to take us out [if we get sick]," he said."
Selfish jerk. If he brings an outbreak to Galiano, it'll be in two weeks when he's long gone. These small islands aren't equipped to deal with an outbreak if it flares up.
Doesn't anybody else have elderly family members they're worried about? Why do so many people seem to care so little? I'm in a low-risk category for Covid but I worry about my extended family members.
Lots of good observations and points.
On one hand the gov. says stay home and a % of people are travelling.
Guess the gov. was hoping people would heed the warning.
Gov. has these big fines/jail or whatever if people do not isolate for 2 weeks after coming back into the country OR big fines/jail if people lie when filling out for gov. $$$
....then zero enforcement with these 1000s and 1000s travelling ...
As your post correctly says..stopping for gas...other services...
Gov should of had the police at roadblocks ( by ferries / else where ) and questioned / sent people packing back home.
Florida beaches were crowded just wks ago ....and Covid 19 planting itself ..now the word is they are preparing for a big wave.
The Shoppers Drugs yesterday had so many people inside. Busier stores should all enforce how many can be in the place at one time. Let it line up outside the door.
I like you am concerned as do keep my mom 84 yrs old.
You called it correctly. People travelling this long weekend are selfish and may add in the gov. should of did enforcing to stop it.
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"We don't interact with anybody outside of ourselves and our own property and we're far away from other people," said one passenger, who identified himself only as Rob. He acknowledged locals' concerns, but said they weren't enough to cancel the trip. "I'm not too worried. Bring in a helicopter to take us out [if we get sick]," he said."
Totally irresponsible and selfish. Why should taxpayers foot the bill for the helicopter because of his own stupidity ?
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Parking lot and fishing piers at Deer Lake closed. Any other local stocked lakes restrictions?
Was reading Lower Seymour
Conservative open to pedestrians and cyclists only.
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Mind numbing. The pure stupidy of people. I've read so many articles of these people making excuses for not listening to what's being asked of us.
One guy that's gone to Galiano Island commented if he gets sick "just send a helicopter to get me". Yeah right >:(
Stay home people and show the respect others are showing you.
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I've read so many articles of these people making excuses for not listening to what's being asked of us.
"Many hikers are laser-focused on the two-metre (six-feet) rule, ignoring other equally important aspects of physical and social distancing."
-from https://www.straight.com/covid-19-pandemic/hikers-please-stay-f-home
The article is about hiking but much of the it applies to other outdoor activities. And it resonates with a lot of what I've been seeing and reading online lately.
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We WERE doing so well...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-19-maintenance-phase-april-easter-1.5528959
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Some chocolate company is donating a lot to the skid row area.
Chocolate sits in mouth/throat...sugar ....
Kinda like lowers their body defences even lower.
( skid row people are unhealthy as it is without....here's chocolate.
Donate oranges or bananas or garlic...)
Then a few days ago seen some promo of native kids with mouth organs....
Mouth organs??? Are they being told ...do not let your friend or br or sis use it.
Well going for bike ride and know a lot of side roads.
Away from people.
EDIT IN: I see my post started a new page. Recommend go back to page 24 as recent posts made also today.
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LOTS of hate of social media these days. Seems to be the rest of the province vs the Fraser Valley City Slickers. I'm reading reports of locals trying to chase people off lakes. Its brutal out there.
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This is an interesting read. Failure to act quickly and decisively has cost lives in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-canada-federal-response-1.5529263
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This is an interesting read. Failure to act quickly and decisively has cost lives in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-canada-federal-response-1.5529263
Totally agree.
Dr Tam in this article says in January that Canada will get cases but it will be rare.
Very famous last wordswords. "It will be rare "
That senior facility in Seattle had the virus ..and it started to spread in Washington State...but 1000s & 1000s of BC shoppers were still going there to shop !!!
Planes coming in from various countries....
A virus that shows no symptoms for even 2-3 weeks.
Ticking time bomb.
Stories....47 yr old grocery wkr dead.
25 yr old pharmacy tech. dead.
London woman 36 yr old dead.
UK 22 yr old dead .
31 yr old woman no known underlying health conditions dead
Infant in Illinois dead
17yr old Orleans dead.
46 yr old dead California
Family in Utah 5 members ...daughter and her sister dead.
girls basketball coach 42 yrs old dead.
Priest NYC 49 yr old dead
42 yr old hospital tech. dead
France 16 yr old girl
600 care homes infected in Canada....
One senior care home in Quebec had staff not show up ( maybe no masks ?) ...only 5 workers braved it....31 seniors dead.
No water...poo in bed...no food ...5 died from Covid ...others died because of zero care !!!
Big investigation....
Canada did not react quickly enough at the beginning.
These above examples of young people dying below 60 yrs old is just a tip of the iceberg.
Wash your hands.....sanitizer...isolate....kept social distancing...6 ft apart....keep hands away from face mouth eyes :o
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This is an interesting read. Failure to act quickly and decisively has cost lives in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-canada-federal-response-1.5529263
In hindsight it's clear but in the beginning it would have been crazy to propose shutting everything down. I wouldn't have supported closures back in either Jan or Feb. Would anybody here have?
I only jumped on the closures bandwagon in the second week of March. I remember the timing because of some family plans that we cancelled. It felt a little cautious cancelling the plans at the time but looks completely reasonable in retrospect.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Had the government imposed a shutdown back in January without knowing the full extent of this virus, there will be people and holier than thou journalists would accuse the government of over-reaction
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Long weekend actions will define B.C.'s COVID-19 trajectory, says top doctor as deaths climb by 3
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-health-officials-provide-weekend-covid-19-update-1.5529885
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Hindsight is 20/20. Had the government imposed a shutdown back in January without knowing the full extent of this virus, there will be people and holier than thou journalists would accuse the government of over-reaction
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/closing-border-sooner-buy-in-1.5528515
"Slowly, you have to change people's thinking ... that takes time. It takes evidence. You have to prove to people that it's serious." (Canada Health official)
Revelations being unearthed daily, that Trudeau's team sprang into action with the speed of molasses. So a Canada Health sycophant and the CBC team up to save our dear leader. The truth, it seems, is that it was all our fault. Our minds needed changing before we would respond adequately.
Well, that certainly describes the actions of Trudeau's team of experts. Their minds changed every other day.
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The traveller was in China ( Wuhan area I believe ) ..he flew back to a Washington State.
Deemed healthy as he felt good and no symptoms.
He went to that senior care facility to visit.
(If I recall)
Well he must of went to many other places too....mall food store theatre ? gas station friends...spread virus....unknowingly...still no signs of symptoms ....other infected people feel ok and social....run away compound interest.
Everyday in discussion for 2/3 wks ...I'd be a broken record sharing with those in our home as we watched the tv news.... " come on Trudeau close the border to the public! Why are planes coming from China still ? Stop those planes. "
Then it finally happened. >:(
Quebec has been hit the hardest it seems.
If ya feel a twang gargle original Listerine quick.
If ya see 3-4 enemy soldiers....drop the nuke. (Just kidding).
There is a semi driver on youtube I check out sometimes. Yesterday a vid requested prayers from viewers . Drivers mother has Covid -19 and is "fighting for her life"
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Thousands sign petition asking that travel to Vancouver Island be restricted
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/thousands-sign-petition-asking-that-travel-to-vancouver-island-be-restricted-1.5530403
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On news it shows a guy spitting on elevator buttons !!!
What a goof...a) camera in elevators daaaaaaa
b) why?
The human race !!!
Guess this guy would not get back on the rocket to return to earth.
His raw unrefined thinking is rockets come and go like the city buses. What a VIP he is.
His lawyer says he's sorry.
Gee after he got caught..."I'm sorry"
Honestly some law must of been broken and a big fine or even a week in jail.
Singapore has laws against throwing your gum away etc....
If there is no law against this ...broad law so it covers lots of crazy actions like this...then make some.
Crap like this...if I ever lived in a high rise ( once did) I'd have gloves if using elevator.
In the many high rises it must be un nerving to use elevators these days....sneezing coughing ...Covid 19 .
And now virus is getting into the correction system ...gee whizz ...
Boooooooooooooo!
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In the many high rises it must be un nerving to use elevators these days....sneezing coughing ...Covid 19 .
I live in a low-rise condo and figure my highest risk activity is using the elevator. I use my keys to press the buttons but there have got to be plenty of germs floating around in that enclosed space. The cleaning staff do a good job and residents wait until the elevator is empty before entering but still... if I get sick, it'll be the elevator that got me 8)
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Some days it really does feel like Canada has farmed out its entire health policy during this COVID-19 crisis to the World Health Organization.
From the early days, answers to questions on testing, on the spread of the virus, on approving treatments or even rapid testing, have been to cite what the WHO recommends.
That is nothing short of a dereliction of duty by Canada’s top health officials...
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-government-needs-to-stop-taking-covid-orders-from-who
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were saved. kenneth copeland blew the virus away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMkyDS5ULts
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Bet the cons and scam artists are thinking if ways to get rich on Covid -19 spread.
Fake hand sanitizer...or products with false claims...or give to this charity to help the victims in need ...
One lady who returned from Italy to the USA when the virus was just starting to get bad...started not to feel well before she travelled.
She saw a doctor before she left and he assured her it was not Covid 19 but a slight cold.
But symptoms started ....head pounding...ears throbbing....throat on fire...body aches....chills...fever 100.2....lost of hearing in left ear...then both ears...phlegm building in back of throat...loss of smell and taste...
She got the test urged by her family members as some are in the medical field. Yep it showed she is positive !!!
That means she was on the plane....in airports ...wherever....breathing about amongst the public...and who knows how many stores etc she went into...
She still is in isolation at her home and feels better so her body has fought it well.
She is just waiting to get neg. tests so she can go out in public again.
But symptoms after getting this virus may start in 2-3 days or in 14 days !!!
Some say even 21 days.
Hulk Hogan the most famous pro wrestler in history ? Or is it Ric Flair most famous? I do not know.
But Hogan is stirring the pot by saying God started this plague because the world by in large has given Him the finger kinda idea. He says Matthew 24 backs his claim. "Pestilences"
He's definitely a Bible Thumper a religious fanatic ::)
All I know is hopefully we can soon body slam this virus for the count of 3 and get a victory.
In the mean time wash your hands wash your hands sanitize your hands sanitize your hands before going into store and afterwords...gargle original Listerine before going in and after...
Oh the trucker whom I view on youtube sometimes....
Today's vid loaded : my mom has died !
In a week it took the mom's life.
Over 60 yrs old ...overweight...( doctors are saying older / overweight people are at more risk to die)
Plus guys and dolls eat complex vit C ( from foods ... Not vit. pills ) and foods that build up good bacteria in your gut ( intestines ) ...eat fermented foods. ( like Bicks sauerkraut...one forkful daily even should do the trick )
Stay healthy folks.
Actually this virus is just not going away anytime soon.
Hopefully a vaccine can be found sooner than later.
Looking outside and it's so sunny but it feels like a cloudy day. World upside down.
A little tiny weeny thing that's invisible creating such havoc !
I say we should nuke it !!! Declare war !!
Gee ....where will it all end?
Should the USA military personnel weakened drastically ...60-70% of them get sick ???ya just hope some other country will not try to take advantage and start a war.
Time will tell.
Rev. Copeland in a big % of the Christian faith circles is regarded as "greedy" and a bad example. ( notice a post has been loaded up on him )
There is a lot of these : prosperity preachers ...who claim Gods Christians to be rich !!!
Well listen there are lots of Christians who have successful companies and the owners are super rich !!
That's the democratic way ! Work hard and get $$$.
But preachers get donations and God's $$$ should not be hogged but be put to good purposes. Rich preachers SHAME ON YOU.
Like spread the Word...crusades ..missionary work...medical food shelter in poor areas ...water wells ..so on. Take it in and give it out to help....
But these guys like Rev Copeland ...700 million in bank or whatever...very bad example to all.
No justification for it.
But for every bad example thank God there is so much good being done too by other sincere Christians.
Orphanages etc...help for so many ...woman centres ..( abused spouses or sex trafficked victims drug addicts ....)
If Mr Copeland wanted to be rich he should of went off and went into business ...but not get rich by donations.
So ya bash him and preachers like him but do not throw every Christian outfit under the bus...many walk the talk. :)
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no i agree, he is a greedy clown but unfortunately people still follow him. people like him make your beliefs look bad. guys like him need to be exposed for the frauds they are.
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Please STOP with the religion crap, THIS IS A FISHING WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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blah, blah, blah blah blah
As bad as Kenneth is, if ur that blind and choose to follow that instead of common sense, I don't feel sorry that ur willingly giving your money away. Good for him, taking advantage of a farce!
Christians have created more grieves than goods since the beginning of time unfortunately.
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Maybe people can donate to my church and I'll sweep the virus away
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Please STOP with the religion crap, THIS IS A FISHING WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a fishing website your right.
But Covid 19 has affected sports fishing.
And with covid 19 ....the bad example preachers ( Copeland ) are getting media time and trying to look good by their lofty prayers against covid 19.
So in this broad ripple effect ...anything to do with Covid 19 ....is going to get comments.
I like the fact these greedy preachers are getting bad press.
They are very bad examples....but hopefully and it will ....this trend will mainly talk on Covid 19 ...
It's surely changing by the minute hour day and deserves attend.
It also gives FWR a place to vent our feelings.
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It also gives FWR a place to vent our feelings.
I think this point is very important right now. I frequent 2 other fishing forums and you get to "know" others by their writing.
It's surprising to me the difference in posters attitudes and opinions, and how they have changed in a month.
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Maybe people can donate to my church and I'll sweep the virus away
I am smart enough NOT to donate to your church ;D
Chris I know will not either!
Nor will any FWR member. ;D
Dave " right on ! "
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I think this point is very important right now. I frequent 2 other fishing forums and you get to "know" others by their writing.
It's surprising to me the difference in posters attitudes and opinions, and how they have changed in a month.
I agree. The neighbourhood I live in has a Facebook page and there has been a lot of conflict, shaming etc. and has caused the poor moderator a real headache.
So far there has been a lot of tolerance on this site as far as opinions go and I think that's a good thing in these times.
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Fishforever this section is called general discussion. Just sayin.
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i honestly think things here have been rather civil. besides robert and ralph having a minor spat its been fine.
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The mayor of a remote village off British Columbia’s central coast says he’s living proof that someone has ignored the warnings of the province’s health authorities and brought the novel coronavirus to the secluded island.
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/i-never-left-the-island-b-c-mayor-says-traveller-brought-covid-19-to-remote-alert-bay-1.4895693
Nog
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how do they know its not an essential service personal that brought, or a truck driver and so on. just because you never leave the island does not mean you cant contract the virus. apparently young people cant have it and show no symptoms.
i understand some are still travelling back and forth and should not at this time but until its proven how he got it, its all hearsay.
i was suppose to go up to mcneil to do some prawning with a friend of mine this weekend but have put that off for another time because i respect what the medical community are saying.
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people like him make your beliefs look bad. guys like him need to be exposed for the frauds they are.
I agree and disagree. No one can make my beliefs look bad. My beliefs are rooted in biblical truth...God's word is unchangeable and is perfectly good. But for people who aren't grounded in God's Word, these types of people can put a damper on their opinions and perspective of what true Christianity really is.
As for exposing these types as fraud....that responsibility does go to true Christians because it is God's Word that is the tool used to expose them to everyone else as the frauds they are.
but unfortunately people still follow him.
The reason people follow these guys in the first place is because they are NOT grounded in God's Word. Same reason that all unbelievers follow Satan. If you know God's Word inside and out, you will not fall for the traps that the devil puts out for you....and make no mistake, the devil has put out traps for everyone every day....and that includes for Christians too.
As bad as Kenneth is, if ur that blind and choose to follow that instead of common sense, I don't feel sorry that ur willingly giving your money away. Good for him, taking advantage of a farce!
People who use Christianity as a means to wealth and self gain will face some of the highest level of punishment on judgement day.
Christians have created more grieves than goods since the beginning of time unfortunately.
Most (but not all) of the grieves you are probably referring to weren't actually created by true Christians. With that said, I think it's unfair to put Christians on a pedestal. We are broken hurting human beings like everyone else. Everyone needs Jesus....plain and simple. Christians still sin too, so it's hard when people are watching and waiting for us to make mistakes so they can show and tell the world how bad they witnessed a Christian(s) acting. Christians will sin and occasionally show behaviour that doesn't line up with our beliefs. Believe it or not, any Christian who truly follows God knows how bad they need Jesus for them to truly live and survive in this fallen world. We as Christians don't showcase ourselves as these perfect people who have everything together, and the ones that do......well.....there is an answer for that too.
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I agree. The neighbourhood I live in has a Facebook page and there has been a lot of conflict, shaming etc. and has caused the poor moderator a real headache.
So far there has been a lot of tolerance on this site as far as opinions go and I think that's a good thing in these times.
Right on !
Thumbs up to ibilly and bigblockfox too.
But 99.999% of the time I just respond to what someone brought up ...example today Rev Copland.
Yes wanted to add in he is in error for being greedy selfish non caring ...
He must know getting greedy rich thru donations is a bad example to non believers ...to conclude it's just a money racket.
He likes his riches more than caring it will be a major stumbling block to others. >:(
I'm trying to figure out how that fish ( Nog) moves it's tail...blinks an eye ...even the fin moves.....after getting solving that then I should be ready to find a vaccine ....
Seen today on the 700 Club 1 hr version ...a Dr. said there is a study going on right now that looks really really promising.
Sick people responded very well to it and recovered from Covid 19.
It's a drug in good supply and every country has it in stock. Vets use it on horses dogs livestock ( animals ) to rid them of intestinal worms.
The drug has anti viral properties as well.
Guess in the testing they are giving it to older people who are dying....and if a big % improve then the docs know they are on to something !!!
But this doctor today sounded really hopeful. Even the tone of his voice had that positive sound to it.
Notice Robert_G has posted as I'm about to push the post button.
( read his post and it is very well said and could not agree more....
In fact Rev Copeland is a believer but he's in error in getting super rich. Judgement starts with Christians first. When Inside Edition surprised him with an interview as he got into a vehicle ...he wax asked about his private jet ...riches...oh he got angry...then he tells the lady interviewer she had nice color eyes ...he grabs her hand and kisses it ....WTH !!! Flirtation !!! On tv to boot !!!
Bet his wife heard about it...and guess he had another intense interview ...but conducted by his wife. ;D)
But honestly getting back to the virus ....hopefully this vet drug works out to be the help the very sick need !!!
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follow up video to the one i posted earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwoNP9QWr4Y
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The mayor of a remote village off British Columbia’s central coast says he’s living proof that someone has ignored the warnings of the province’s health authorities and brought the novel coronavirus to the secluded island.
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/i-never-left-the-island-b-c-mayor-says-traveller-brought-covid-19-to-remote-alert-bay-1.4895693
Nog
I have no time for small town mayors complaining about tourists. Did it ever occur to this man that the virus may have been brought back to the community by a community member ?. I say we should ban small town people who have a hate on for "City Folk" from big city hospitals. See how they like being treated like an outcast in thei own province.
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... I say we should ban small town people who have a hate on for "City Folk" from big city hospitals.
These times certainly bring out The Best in some people... NOT! :(
Nog
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This is the Province of B.C. Angling Update as related to Covid 19 (which is the actual topic of this thread.)
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/recreation/fishing-hunting/fishing-and-hunting-covid-19-updates
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follow up video to the one i posted earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwoNP9QWr4Y
Wow does this doctor make so many points.
Book could be written just on what he stated. 20 chapters.
Oh great he thinks major new viruses are going to hit the world every few years.
Time to invest in sanitizer and mask companies.
He states the masks the general public uses in Korea plus hand washing and social distancing is the way to go !
He did touch on the med report that came from Australia about vet med to kill worms in animals as wishy washy ....( I commented the doctor on cbn did think it may be the wonder drug...in trial right now but in this vid this dr. says "no" ....hopefully he does not know a lot about results and he just wants us to be more patient till more studies are done on it )
But Canada has even low supply of masks for it's medical workers...so that's why we the public are not wearing them. Low supply...like sanitizer...toilet paper....
He states that Covid 19 is so so catchy.
He also states it is one of the most sly tricky viruses.
So just great.
He expects major new viruses to hit us every few yrs....
He has no idea if and when this Covid 19 slows or increases in the spread.
With that in mind should future air travel ....boat cruises ....start to be limited as a norm
If we just keep having planes fly all over when a new virus hits....it's spread already before action is taken.
Prevention and limit international flights all the time ...now of course it's being done but should be limited always. ( new viruses he says will be the norm )
Time to build a log cabin in the deep wilderness and take you chances being attacked by some large animal !!! Or wild human who comes across your path :o
Trend topic has mutated....for the better....me thinks...look at the number of views.
Title of this trend has the word Covid 19 right?
So how off topic did this trend really go.
It has mainly talked on Covid 19.
This is a problem that yes affects sports fishing but also every thing we do.
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rather than mutating the topic, I would prefer that a new thread was started for all these discussions and let this one be about fishing opportunities in these difficult times.
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Canadian police are to begin visiting homes to enforce the government’s COVID-19 quarantine, the RCMP said on Friday, warning that “recklessly” failing to comply could result in a $1-million fine and three years in prison.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6804626/coronavirus-police-verifying-quarantine-order/
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rather than mutating the topic, I would prefer that a new thread was started for all these discussions and let this one be about fishing opportunities in these difficult times.
27 pages later ...
CohoJake has a winning topic...keep it going...as soon as it just limits it to "fishing and Covid" it will stay on page 27 for a loooooong time.
Keep it on both...fishing and Covid and the latest on Covid ...page 28....page 29.. Page 30.... runaway posts....like the virus itself.
But ya do have a pt....well taken.
But this Covid is nothing we seen before ...new ..so ya this trend has broaden but still the core is Covid affecting fishing and our life.
Think it's ok.
Maybe CohoJake can start a new topic: Will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities 2 ( please only keep comments on Covid as it affects sports fishing.)
Penalty powers by police...guy would have to sell their house to pay $1 million dollar fine. :o
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Message to U.S. Citizens in Canada: Domestic Travel Restrictions within Canada
April 15, 2020
Location: Canada
Event: COVID-19 Updates and Summary of Domestic Travel Restrictions within Canada
Information:
In addition to restrictions on non-essential travel between the United States and Canada, a number of provinces and territories have put in place specific restrictions for travel across their borders, including for domestic travelers. The information and links below provide information about recent restrictions. This information is accurate as of April 15, please check the links for information prior to any planned travel.
Canada (nation-wide measures): As of April 15, “travelers returning to Canada during the COVID-19 pandemic must have a credible quarantine plan before they enter the country.” The order strengthens the Quarantine Act and gives authorities expanded abilities to screen travelers’ quarantine plan. If the plan is deemed inadequate, travelers may be denied entry or be required to quarantine in a hotel.
Alberta:No current interprovincial domestic travel restrictions.
British Columbia:No current interprovincial domestic travel restrictions.
Manitoba:No current interprovincial domestic travel restrictions, but the Manitoba government has established highway checkpoints to help inform travelers about the public health measures in place to slow the spread of COVID-19. Public health officials recommend “anyone who returns from international or domestic travel should self-isolate and self-monitor for symptoms for 14 days following their return.”
New Brunswick:“New Brunswick implemented restrictions for all travelers who are arriving from outside the province. This includes interprovincial/territorial and international travel. At this time exemptions are being made for certain individuals, but this is subject to change.”
Newfoundland and Labrador: “Travelers arriving to Newfoundland and Labrador from outside the province are required to self-isolate for 14 days, including those arriving from other provinces and territories in Canada.”
Nova Scotia:Only visitors providing essential services will be admitted to Nova Scotia. All workers, including temporary foreign workers, admitted into the province must self-isolate for 14 days.
Ontario: No current interprovincial domestic travel restrictions.
Prince Edward Island: Anyone coming into Prince Edward Island must self-isolate for 14 days following all out of province travel, including within Canada and the United States.”
Quebec:”Service de police de la Ville de Gatineau (SPVG) officers are being deployed to strategic entry points to restrict travel to only essential purposes.”
Saskatchewan: No current interprovincial domestic travel restrictions.
Northwest Territories: Travelers must “self-isolate and complete the approved self-isolation plan” for 14 days after arriving in the NWT.
Nunavut: “Only Nunavut residents and critical workers will be allowed into the territory. Residents will have to provide proof of residency to be allowed to fly into Nunavut. Prior to boarding a plane into the territory, residents will undergo a mandatory 14-day isolation period in either Ottawa, Winnipeg, Edmonton or Yellowknife.”
Yukon: “All visitors to the territory are required to self-isolate for 14 days. This includes anyone returning home from other provinces and territories by road or air, as well as Yukoners returning home by road from Alaska.”
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Wow does this doctor make so many points.
Book could be written just on what he stated. 20 chapters.
Oh great he thinks major new viruses are going to hit the world every few years.
Time to invest in sanitizer and mask companies.
He states the masks the general public uses in Korea plus hand washing and social distancing is the way to go !
He did touch on the med report that came from Australia about vet med to kill worms in animals as wishy washy ....( I commented the doctor on cbn did think it may be the wonder drug...in trial right now but in this vid this dr. says "no" ....hopefully he does not know a lot about results and he just wants us to be more patient till more studies are done on it )
But Canada has even low supply of masks for it's medical workers...so that's why we the public are not wearing them. Low supply...like sanitizer...toilet paper....
He states that Covid 19 is so so catchy.
He also states it is one of the most sly tricky viruses.
So just great.
He expects major new viruses to hit us every few yrs....
He has no idea if and when this Covid 19 slows or increases in the spread.
With that in mind should future air travel ....boat cruises ....start to be limited as a norm
If we just keep having planes fly all over when a new virus hits....it's spread already before action is taken.
Prevention and limit international flights all the time ...now of course it's being done but should be limited always. ( new viruses he says will be the norm )
Time to build a log cabin in the deep wilderness and take you chances being attacked by some large animal !!! Or wild human who comes across your path :o
Trend topic has mutated....for the better....me thinks...look at the number of views.
Title of this trend has the word Covid 19 right?
So how off topic did this trend really go.
It has mainly talked on Covid 19.
This is a problem that yes affects sports fishing but also every thing we do.
by far the most informative information i can find. i know its long and in a different language but people need to watch it. we need to hear more from doctors and less from politicians.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcajDiGAq0 😆
See what happens when you don't listen to a make belief character instead of science?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcajDiGAq0 😆
See what happens when you don't listen to a make belief character instead of science?
Stupid people thinking that God will protect him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcajDiGAq0 😆
See what happens when you don't listen to a make belief character instead of science?
Just got back from the outside for some exercise.
Sooooo nice out there.
Science and logic points to a " higher power. "
Plus millions lawyers surgeons doctors dentists scientists nasa professors....higher learning are believers in God.
But Yes I've met very unwise pastors/Christians ...that make me shake my head.
This virus kills ...this virus does not care if it's a believer or a non believers.
The crazy pastors in some area passes rattle snakes...about...
Quoting some verse no deadly thing will harm you ( paraphrase )
Ya but lots of these pastors died too!
This pastor thinking he 's extra special is so unwise. Surprised he did not die in the ocean a long time ago....thinking he could walk on water...
Or why use the bridge...just walk across the canyon ...maybe he thinks he can fly.
Science says this virus has these characteristics ...so mr wise miss wise take caution.
The only thing he said right was he fears not death....ya he's in heaven right now so his unwise thinking did get him into heaven sooner...so he 's better off anyways. ;D
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Stupid people thinking that God will protect him.
😂👍
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Could not agree more. Met many unwise Christians. ( met many unwise non believers too ;D)
That's why I keep my trust in God and not people or pastors. My faith is in GOD not people.
God gives us a brain ...1 plus 1 is 2.
Virus is catchy infectious so masks distance wash/sanitize hands. Only a nutty pastor thinks like this guy.
99% of pastors have shut down their church etc???but these other 1% pastors have zero wisdom.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcajDiGAq0 😆
See what happens when you don't listen to a make belief character instead of science?
Maybe Kenneth Copeland didn't blow hard enough... Or maybe he blew too hard. 🤷🏻♂️
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Maybe Kenneth Copeland didn't blow hard enough... Or maybe he blew too hard. 🤷🏻♂️
...or he just "blew" on the wrong thing?
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...or he just "blew" on the wrong thing?
He must be well in his 80s ...how much air does he have left?
These guys ...many like him set themselves up to be criticized.
I sure will not justify their actions nor will most believers.
The gospel is so simple and when big institutions get ahold of it ...it then becomes complex.
They add into the recipe ideas that cloud it all up.
It's simple. Jesus or satan heaven or hell forgiveness /pray from heart .
( get in the lifeboat ) that's it.
Oh no the church goes and screws it all up...
Truth is God must increase in our life and we decrease..... But these churches or pastors take over and it becomes THEY increase ....their church their name their denomination and God decreases...
They add in ingredients into the recipe that do not belong...like where is that found in the scripture?
Man made rules...doctrines...
Like Rodney's recipe in his recent post...raw spicy salmon...if these preachers got ahold of it....they would say : add in a cup of horse radish :o
On the Covid 19 ...went to a food store and a line up outside. Would allow only x number of people in the store.
I like that. Lots of room to keep distance...
But there was arrows that zig zagged which direction ya pushed your shopping cart...like a one way street.
Was not in there a long time about 4 people walked opposite the way the arrows pointed !!!!!!!!!! >:(
Defeats the purpose. Boooooooo! Yes then they came within 3 ft of you as they crossed by.
One big guy ( biker rough type. )though later ...in another store came around the corner and I was there and he hopped way over to keep a 6 ft distance... ( just like I had bad breath )
Now if this big rough biker can twinkle toes jump 6 ft to maintain distance...surely others can do the same.
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this is what i truly fear about trump. when his time is up, he wont leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZ3AM9XwdQ
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this is what i truly fear about trump. when his time is up, he wont leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZ3AM9XwdQ
Everyone knows that he's a total fool. It's all about him.
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Everyone knows that he's a total fool. It's all about him.
Ahhh... Chatting about Pierre's Idiot Child again I see...
BC Stats: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded
Nog
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Ahhh... Chatting about Pierre's Idiot Child again I see...
BC Stats: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded
Nog
Yup....its crazy how people get them mixed up. Those who keep away from the fake news know that Trudeau is the treasonous incompetent one .....not Trump.
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As COVID-19 cases spike in Russia, the Kremlin struggles to respond
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/covid-19-russia-spike-cases-1.5533647
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trudeau is average at best but the fact you think trump is better shows how mindless you guys really are. i have more respect for mit romney and george w bush. at least they are decent people with morals unlike your orange goof.
typical conservatives, as soon as you put their dear leader to the fire they scream trudeau and hillary are worse. ya they suck too just not as hard as trump. the funny part is you conservatives still couldnt beat trudeau even after all the bs and scandals hes had.
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Nice, excusing Trump's actions by pointing out Lib's flaws.
Some model citizens representing the so-called Christian values nicely here.
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...or he just "blew" on the wrong thing?
Like Ted Haggard?
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trudeau is average at best but the fact you think trump is better shows how mindless you guys really are.
When your obvious Trump Derangement Syndrome (aka TDS) kicks in next, count to ten and repeat slowly:
Not my circus,
NOT my Monkeys.
Repeat as required until your head calms down enough not to explode.
You're Welcome,
Nog
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Like Ted Haggard?
There has been a lot of scandals in the church....pastors/priests and ladies /nuns...
Pastors/priests and boys....males. ( Ted Haggard)
Our world is infinite now.....anything goes it seems....
Men marrying and adopting baby boy unheard of just a few years ago.
Man kissing man in soap opera never seen on tv till now a days...
Female teachers in public schools being charged with sex with students is in the news all the time.
Porn on internet a big temptation or some not temptation as it 's normal to watch....
Me being into sexual stuff from early times in 1960s /1970s ...I have not to look at it zero because it will be too drawing ...luring ...
Like an alcoholic can't have one drink.
Most men think porn is ok and not wrong to view but for believers it is a sin ...
If viewed one feels the curse inside one 's soul that it brings. Sow we reap.
Crazy world.
Some do not care if a full back in football has personality flaws...as long as he gets TDs.
Pres. Trump may not be the most likeable guy ( more so in past ) but he gets the job done.
He done so much good new things ...and at same time cleaning out the swamp...pig trough.
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When is the end of covid? A miracle vaccine.. slim chance, common colds mutate. They can chase strains for years. Unfortunately it looks like it may be here to stay for good.
Trump does receive an unfair backlash, when other leaders actions do the equivalent they don’t get treated the same as the potus.
There’s two sides. 1) Regular folk who want to open up business, when business owners hear trumps words of opening its music to their ears. Can you blame em? They’re about to go bankrupt
2) regular folk who want to isolate and save as many lives as possible? Can you blame them either?
Covid ain’t going away. All it takes is one case. BC and western Canada have an excellent opportunity to bring it to zero this summer but that only happens with much harsher restrictions and tight borders.
Our government won’t bring in stricter measures.
As time keeps going world governments are more open to the idea of opening business, as they have no choice. We all see Italy today..
the issue is when they open, people may drop their guard and bodies will pile.. young healthy adults who should be fine contracting covid will regardless freak out and stay inside, causing shutdowns.
The situation of the entire globe long term is incredibly messy, it will get so much worse before getting better.
We all heard the saying “the time to buy is when there’s blood in the streets”
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/
Due diligence from an individual is an always
Opening up business again will be at the discretion of state governors
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the right approach to get this over with is to isolate the best we can untill testing is widely available. once testing is widely available we can further isolate cases more quickly and trace the people they came in contact with. this virus is incredibly contagious. opening the economy to early could make it last longer and unnecessary lives will be lost. is economic value worth peoples lives?
i agree, this is going to be a long messy recovery. i also worry about inflation. when trillions of $$ get pump into an economy it can have unwanted consequences.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/
Due diligence from an individual is an always
Opening up business again will be at the discretion of state governors
thats why trump had to back off on his word is final speal. the constitution is very clear on this issue. even some republicans and fox news host stated how he was wrong and that doesn't happen often.
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Ahhh... Chatting about Pierre's Idiot Child again I see...
BC Stats: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded
Nog
Still bitter about the election results I see despite your best efforts.
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the funny part is you conservatives still couldnt beat trudeau even after all the bs and scandals hes had.
So true. If they can't beat him with all the scandals surrounding the party, they never will.
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Some people may blame Scheer on the conservative election loss. If they had another candidate they say they might’ve won. What if it wasn’t Scheer? Conservatives were fixed on the economy and, they were definitely not for any more of a progressive agenda.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/andrew-scheer-conservative-party-wherry-1.5394020
Black fox I agree with you on mass testing, we need literally hundreds of millions of tests just for Canada itself. But what I’m reading is a regular cold can test positive for covid regarding with exosomes. This individual tested 3 times. Twice negative and once positive
https://people.com/theater/nick-cordero-fighting-for-his-life-coronavirus-condition-got-very-bad/
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i think a lot of strategic voting happened in our last election. trudeau was not well liked but people really didn't trust scheer. jagmeet really suffered as a consequence even though i thought he had some decent policies to bring to the table. the only party that really won that night was the bloc quebecois.
at the end of the day i disagree with scheer and harper on policies but i believe they are decent people with morals that would follow the law and canadian constitution. i personally wouldn't vote for them but i believe both could and can run a country with out me having to constantly worry about their every little move. trump on the other hand is a proven con artist, scammer, criminal with no morals. i am actually really shocked that christians have swallowed their beliefs just to back this president. hes not a christian. he just pretends to be to get that block of voters which is quite large in the states. they will put up with trumps bs just to get a few supreme court nominees and overturn roe vs wade which is the goal.
trump wants to reopen the economy asap because thats all hes got. what most people dont understand is the economy was building good steam under obama before trump even took office.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/02/13/6-reasons-trump-did-not-inherit-a-mess-from-obama/#1428305b75ef
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even gaining more respect for doug ford
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/i-don-t-want-them-in-ontario-premier-ford-fires-back-after-trump-suggests-loosening-border-1.4899199
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True, if Trump gets re elected (postpone election in my mind) he’ll put another conservative judge in. Who knows how long some aging judges have left ex.Ruth Ginsburg, all respects.
Even with another right wing judge I do doubt they’ll turn roe vs. Wade over, the media will go insane and progressives will riot no doubt.
We’ll see Trump does consistently hold a 90% approval amongst republicans
Obama did not hesitate when it came to the oil and gas sector, pushing USA as the #1 producer in the world, and economy flourished
Canada still gets oil from saudis, while rejecting notably teck frontier and East pipeline routes missing out on billions of government tax revenue.
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He must be well in his 80s ...how much air does he have left?
LOL! Good one AB.
Some of the sex driven old guys are capable of more than they appear.
Comments like that from me aren't to be taken literally...just like the story of the immaculate conception.
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i agree, this is going to be a long messy recovery. i also worry about inflation. when trillions of $$ get pump into an economy it can have unwanted consequences.
You should worry more about deflation. That's the bigger risk. It causes the bigger economic losses and makes recessions last linger. The depressions of the 1930s and the 1890s included periods of deflation.
Interest rates have remained at such historic lows since 2008 there is little room left to use rate changes to stimulate the economy. Governments will be in a pickle when times comes to get things moving. Infra structure and other stimulus will likely be the route to go. Either they will have to print it (inflationary risk) or get it from China and the Russian mob like they did in 2009.
What's your choice?
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i think a lot of strategic voting happened in our last election. trudeau was not well liked but people really didn't trust scheer. jagmeet really suffered as a consequence even though i thought he had some decent policies to bring to the table. the only party that really won that night was the bloc quebecois.
there was a lot of strategic voting in 2015 and 2010. Many in 2010 many voted for Harper because they disliked Ignatieff. In 2015 the situation was reversed. Canadians are apt to vote strategically. There are relatively adept are playing the game of the FPTP system though they often end up with a dis-likable majority. In the US, voters don't have this worry.
Based on the limited field of candidates running to replace Scheer, the Conservatives chances don't look that good. It took Harper years. a couple of major Liberal missteps and scandals and 3 tries to get a majority.
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LOL! Good one AB.
Some of the sex driven old guys are capable of more than they appear.
Comments like that from me aren't to be taken literally...just like the story of the immaculate conception.
Guys in their 70s 80s 90s ....age wise were born in an time where girls dresses were down to their knees.
Us guys born in the 1950s the girls /teens / ladies wore mini skirts / bikinis ..as we grew up...
Rolling Stones had an album with a zipper... Sticky Fingers name of album or whatever....Like extra crazy times.
So evangelist Copeland raised in an era of girls with long dresses....for the last 60 years has had his eyes popping out of his head...
Remember going golfing with a bunch of Christian guys and on return ( piled together in one car. )
Two nice girls are along the highway...in Surrey and to my surprise these guys start whistling !!!
I gave these guys heck.
Like some were married even.
But guys boys will be boys Christian or otherwise.
But if people are really led by the Holy Spirit at that moment there's no way married Christian guys should be flirting. Where there's spark...it just could turn into fire !!! Bakker / Swaggert etc many others found that out ...live and learn.
As far as Trudeau winning and he had his scandals....where he should have been wiped out.
Bottom line Scheer would not be in a Pride Parade and is against abortion.
The general public saw that as much worse than Trudeau's mistakes.
If Canada had more Christians than non believers...he would of won by a landslide.
History shows Barabus (sp) was let go and Jesus the people yelled crucify him !!!
People in Canada yelled crucify Scheer ....let Trudeau go....vote for him !!!
Guess the Conservatives will have to be less conservative and get a leader who will go in Pride Parades and say abortion is ok. ( to hell with what God thinks....we run things down here )
Gee so many good posts ...sure cannot comment on them all.
But ya Russia is being hit hard now...
Many well known people getting it.
I bought some Vit D yesterday in bottle ...well anything that may help to try to build up body defenses why not ? Eating oranges...sauerkraut...daily ( Vit C check and sauerkraut Bick brand check good gut bacteria...now Vit D check ...good for respiratory )
Not a preventive but maybe it will help body to get better if ....should get Covid 19.
Only $9 .
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You should worry more about deflation. That's the bigger risk. It causes the bigger economic losses and makes recessions last linger. The depressions of the 1930s and the 1890s included periods of deflation.
Interest rates have remained at such historic lows since 2008 there is little room left to use rate changes to stimulate the economy. Governments will be in a pickle when times comes to get things moving. Infra structure and other stimulus will likely be the route to go. Either they will have to print it (inflationary risk) or get it from China and the Russian mob like they did in 2009.
What's your choice?
yes that too. negative interest rates for people would definitely be bad. can't imagine having to pay $ just to store $ in a bank. if that happens im sure cryptocurrency will sky rocket. then governments will have a real hard time securing funds.
i was talking about everyday items we purchase like groceries and what not when i mentioned inflation.
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i was listening to noam chomsky on democracy now and he talked about third world counties dealing with this virus like india and palestine where human conditions arent the best at the best of times. i enjoy listening to him speak. smart man.
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deflation means a drop in prices not negative interest rates. What's bad about deflation people can't count on getting back the cost of the goods and services they provide. On thing that happened in the depression is that people and organizations that held cash tended to hoard it because it's value would increase overtime plus there was a lack of reliable investments. Much the same thing happened after the crash of Fall 2008 when many corporation held huge amounts of cash and cash like investments rather than investing them in business expansion.
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deflation means a drop in prices not negative interest rates. What's bad about deflation people can't count on getting back the cost of the goods and services they provide. On thing that happened in the depression is that people and organizations that held cash tended to hoard it because it's value would increase overtime plus there was a lack of reliable investments. Much the same thing happened after the crash of Fall 2008 when many corporation held huge amounts of cash and cash like investments rather than investing them in business expansion.
Having coffee in am and watched Christian tv Jim Bakker ( no do not agree with everything the way he does things ) but they cover the Covid 19 everyday ( as well as the daily 700 Club USA version )
But today on this Jim Bakker for the first time it was written across the screen.
Pay by CASH or CHEQUE only ???
( not credit card ??? )
Unreal.
They are driven by product selling ...solar generators ....emergency food ( lasts for 30 yrs ) ...water filters...99.999% get water out of pond ditch lake ...
Even one water filter 99.999% and even takes out radiation !!! Good for Japan.
But only take CASH and CHEQUE ...never seen that before .
Know we are in unique times ....litre of gas at one pt 89.9 cents a litre in Vancouver area ...even 59.9 cents in Alberta and no one blinks an eye ....like not one Yippie gas is cheap !!!
Cheap gas and no one cares ...this is serious times.
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Carona Virus Clues:
The possibility that the coronavirus spreads in a mostly stealthy mode among a population of largely young, healthy people showing no symptoms could have major implications...
Sweeping testing of the entire crew of the coronavirus-stricken U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt may have revealed a clue about the pandemic: The majority of the positive cases so far are among sailors who are asymptomatic, officials say.
Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says.
“With regard to COVID-19, we’re learning that stealth in the form of asymptomatic transmission is this adversary’s secret power,”
“It has revealed a new dynamic of this virus: that it can be carried by normal, healthy people who have no idea whatsoever that they are carrying it,”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-military-sympt-idUSKCN21Y2GB
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https://news.gov.bc.ca/files/COVID19_Update_Modelling-DIGITAL.pdf
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There appears to be a huge elephant in the room regarding public health measures and next steps; specifically the impact of diet and metabolic health on corona risks and severity of outcome. I don't understand why this is not being talked about in the media or by our health care professionals.
This is summed up nicely in the following:
Dr Aseem Malhotra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7A1Nqca64
https://www.europeanscientist.com/en/article-of-the-week/covid-19-and-the-elephant-in-the-room/
Dr Paul Mason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUdD8odrdc
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There appears to be a huge elephant in the room regarding public health measures and next steps; specifically the impact of diet and metabolic health on corona risks and severity of outcome. I don't understand why this is not being talked about in the media or by our health care professionals.
This is summed up nicely in the following:
Dr Aseem Malhotra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7A1Nqca64
https://www.europeanscientist.com/en/article-of-the-week/covid-19-and-the-elephant-in-the-room/
Dr Paul Mason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUdD8odrdc
Guess the gov. worldwide are still in panic mode..and have too much to deal with at the moment... Infections isolation deaths and what is the future ???
They are just trying to get us to wash hands sanitize hands keep 6ft apart and isolate.
Get local exercise and get good sleep.
But totally agree they should go the extra mile and share nutrition info that may help our bodies fight off this virus should we become infected.
Vit C Vit D ...get good gut bacteria built up.....eat less sugar...zinc is good so I heard...
Ya we should be eating healthy ...chicken soup loaded with vegs. onions garlic black pepper ...so forth.
But the medical field is not so much on nutrition...as prevention or have strong body to help yourself get well faster when you get sick.
They are more of ...you are sick....take this pill to get better.
Only in this case of corvid 19 no pill is to be had.
Link Rodney put up shows very few cases in northern BC .
Less people less spread.
There are countries still that have zero cases....so I heard.
Pacific islands area is one for sure.
Sailboats you are not welcome.
And Nogs post tells of 360 of the 600 sailors that tested positive had no symptoms ...how scary is that.
At some point they are infectious ...unknowingly infecting other.
Here Joe finish my pudding I'm full.
Hands over the bowl...with spoon.
Joe eats it up fast having a sweet tooth he does.
Gov. says to go out in your neighbourhood and walk bike jog ...well did that today and see a van in a parking lot. On side of van is a picture of a big pipe wrench and the word written CORONA .
Must be Corona plumbing I assume.
But ya eye catching word.
In all this people dying ...everything shut down ...the crazy ness ....I forgot all about it for a few minutes.
The awe of seeing this huge mature bald eagle sitting on the top of the roof ( 3rd story ) of a townhouse and it just gazed towards the western dyke as people walked by.
Sometimes a crow and sea gull buzzed by it but the eagle did not seem rattled one bit.
Nice to forget about Covid 19 for a few minutes.
Thank you Mr. Eagle.
Guess a fish at the end of your fishing line would do the same. :)
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were saved. kenneth copeland blew the virus away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMkyDS5ULts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZBOwMHte4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZBOwMHte4
Guess Evangelist Copeland still has lots of air left.
Going camping and ya need an air pump to blow up air mattress.
Rev. Copeland is coming ...he'll blow them up in record time. ;D
The link was quite entertaining and funny.
From Copeland's mannerisms/ facial expressions to the guy who puts music to it.
Well maybe it's too soon....
I mean we just do not put an apple pie in the oven close the oven door and then 1 minute later ...open the door and take the pie out.
The pie dough and apples will still be uncooked.
Leave the pie in the oven baking for awhile....
So....maybe Rev Copeland prayer will kill that virus ...just give it time. ;D
Like a week.
Let's see if the virus is gone..."va moose so" ( broken Italian ) but.....
this Rev. Copeland is a fishy / tricky guy ...got 700 million so anything he does I am weary of.
But do not brush every preacher/priest with the same brush.
The Holy Spirit exists...there have been times in my life that I have encountered God in a powerful way...and yes in the spiritual warfare have felt the presence of the demonic on a number of occasions.
In short had encounter with God in Williams Lake with God 1973.
Very powerful.
Was at a meeting at the Pacific Coliseum where Kathryn Kuleman spoke.
The place was filled ! She has those 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians ch 12.
( the occult Deuteronomy ch 18:10-12 is of devil...psychics mediums ouija boards tarot cards sleep paralysis ufos / aliens ....haunted houses etc are all demonic manifestations )
So anything supernatural it's of God or the devil.
RW Schambuch was good preacher...Reinhard Bonnke John Hagee...wonderful preachers of God.
Fr Goring is good...
All of the above have YT vids.. Explained in one post about that extra powerful presence of God in one church service ...in the 7 yrs I attended ( New Westminster BC)
Just saying these examples because Rev Copeland gives the impression it's all a circus act ;D
But believe me God and the devil is real ...felt both their presence so it's fact/serious.
But gee this Rev Copeland looks a bit creepy and scary ...those eyes ...stares Ha!
If you want to see some unexplained mind blowing meetings ...check out Kenneth E Hagin church service / camp meeting.
Everything looks normal...and there are vids of this guy preaching good messages...but some vids it shows the power of God annoiting coming into the service and the people look drunk ..others looked like they are holding a live wire !!! Jumping about.
Acts ch 2 when the Holy Spirit came on the believers the on looking crowd concluded they were drunk !!!
Then they said but it's too early in the day for them to be drunk ... ;D
Funny world we live in. But ya God is God and if just .000000000001 % of His power touches a person in a worship meeting guess the human body just cannot act normal. ( Kenneth Hagin church service.YT vid) That service in New Westminster that happened just 1 time was a bit like a Kenneth Hagin service on youtube ...but not quite as wild looking.
Story of Jesus in the boat and a big storm is happening ...
Apostles scared they would drown ...they said to Jesus Don 't You care?
Jesus rebuked the storm and the rain/wind stopped!!!
So...prayers do help.
But Copeland behaviour looks scary to me ;D
Would that be something if next week the virus disappears! Where'd it go???
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A Friend of mine who has had weight problems - maybe 15 years ago he was 5 ft 10 and weighed 330lbs, now he is around 235 - told me about the documented link between obesity and severe Covid-19 and it has him concerned.
However he told me about this close to 2 months ago so I don't think it's hidden news or an elephant in the room
Like me he is in his 60s. Many people become moderately obese as they enter their 6th and 7th decades of life so there may be a link between age, body mass and COVID-19 as well as heart disease, diabetes, respiratory disease and the host of conditions associated with aging.
There appears to be a huge elephant in the room regarding public health measures and next steps; specifically the impact of diet and metabolic health on corona risks and severity of outcome. I don't understand why this is not being talked about in the media or by our health care professionals.
This is summed up nicely in the following:
Dr Aseem Malhotra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7A1Nqca64
https://www.europeanscientist.com/en/article-of-the-week/covid-19-and-the-elephant-in-the-room/
Dr Paul Mason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUdD8odrdc
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Like Ted Haggard?
I was referring to former US Republican Senator Larry Craig who was arrested for lewdness in a public washroom.
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I was referring to former US Republican Senator Larry Craig who was arrested for lewdness in a public washroom.
No shortage of that hypocrisy among opponents of equality.
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No shortage of that hypocrisy among opponents of equality.
You can include priests who molest boys and what's worst is the coverup by the churches.
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You can include priests who molest boys and what's worst is the coverup by the churches.
Your so right.
Priests who did this and the church to cover it up !!!!
Hopefully the church is correcting this ...but there will be priests who say they love God with their lips but inside they love their sin.
Sheep clothing but wolve inside.
There was a case in Australia Hillsong Church think it was...but the past senior pastor sexually abused a boy.
My first Christian friend who he himself was a Bible school student ...at one point in our friendship started hitting on me !!!
Found out he was gay. I told him about Romans ch 1 .
But he tried to dance around it.
No way I'm going to kiss that guy.
His faith seemed genuine at times but I guess his weakness was in that area.
Left that friendship as hey ..felt like a piece of meat....
Left him in God's Hands.
But hey ...in the past it was worse ...in the church ...in mental hospitals people were electric shocked..patients many times raped by staff. In juvenile corrections in the past...kids were whipped...sexually abused...punched...
Today it's still happening but not covered up if it's found out.
Dentists fondling patient...doctors lusting towards teen girls....( one famous case was that gymnist doctor in the states ) female teachers in public schools caught with male or female students....pubs have guys spiking drinks ...girls pass out...raped for hrs...and sex trafficing is very big problem.
But it is always worse when a pastor /priest does it.
Stories of priests in S America abusing nuns !!!
Well the Word says the morality will get like when Noah's Day when he lived.
In other words more and more evil happening.
Who knows maybe this virus is part of the curse because of our world's evil ways ?
Well I 'd blame the devil more than God ;D
Covid 19
But heard on the news the Port Moody boat launch is open again but launching by appt. only. Hey it's great weather to go boating crabbing fishing...
What's the name of the Dr on BC news...Dr Bonnie Henry or something....
She honestly is doing such so good job.
Daily having to address this neg. subject...and long talks interviews...she does it with a freshness.
Most would look burnt out or depressed if they had her position.
Wonder if stats are factual in death count?
What is it now...113,000 dead.
Maybe much more as China are hiding the true stats...most believe. Boooooooooooooooo !
Well stay safe...be defensive ..wash hands etc...you know the drill.
Do not decide to say...enough of this ...I'm going out where ever ...I'm not going to wash my hands ...
....ya just may increase the odds 10 fold to catch it or it ( virus ) catches you :o
800 dead in 24 hrs UK !
Music special on tv...at 8pm Sat today/tonight.
Various artists.
Rumour has it Rolling Stones will perform as well.
Virus has stopped their Vancouver concert.
How can such a LITTLE invisible "thing" create BIG problems.
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Would that be something if next week the virus disappears! Where'd it go???
......................trump's lungs hopefully....
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......................trump's lungs hopefully....
When M Romney was quarantined on the possibly he got the virus a reporter mentioned it to Trump...
Pres. Trump responded "Romney might have the virus ...gee that's too bad...." But said in the tone of voice "Oh good". He and Romney are not in good terms though they both are Republicans.
Trump said Romney lost the election because he had "no energy". Too laid back....Romney did spend big $$$$$ of his own during his attempt. Lost the election...and millions of his own $$$ OUCH !
Talking about where's the virus go ? Posts have been way down !!!
Hope the virus did not suddenly kill off FWR members....virus in lungs "not hopefully".
Car 54 where are you ? ;D
Submarine FA.
FA brought up catholic priests....yes there are some bad apples out there.
In times of trouble like 9-11 people started flocking into churches to pray...
With this Covid 19 crisis people would be piling into churches again like they did with 9-11 BUT the part of the solution is social distancing and isolation so this time people can't do that.
Drive in churches have openned up.
You know like those drive in movie theatres ...people just stay in their cars...even cars I suppose have to be spaced out ..not side by side. Car distancing.
But a dif. stroke for dif. folk...many like the traditional services ...liturgy sing hymns sermon announcements...some like the Catholic mass type...some the southern baptist type quartets ...
Some like nice orderly ...some like more lively....services.
Bottom line there is no Protestant or catholic Jesus in the KJV or whatever translation.
Ya do not even have to go to church...pray at home.
But yes some priests and pastors are sheep on outside and wolves on the inside ...(FA post) so if you ever attend a church watch the pastor closely...if he truly loves The Lord the fruit of the Holy Spirit will be in his life. Love joy peace... A good pastor /priest is moral...he leads his flock closer to God but does not DRIVE or FORCE them . A good pastor / priest does not act like he owns your wallet.
God only wants a cheerful willing giver not a pressured giver.
I 'm more on the Pentacostal side but not the wild weird type...people can have the Holy Spirit present without handing rattle snakes to each other or acting weird.
In fact a service should as the Word says "be done in decency and in order." 1 Corinthians 14:40.
In other words not done like a out of control stampede of buffaloes or horses.
Free tv concert last night was quite good.
My favourite was the Stones song: "ya can't always get what ya want song."
Very fitting....guess a girl turned down Mick's advances ...so he wrote that song !!!! Rumour has it.....
99 yr old war vet. did laps with his walker...hoping to raise $1000.00 .
30 million dollars plus.....later in donations !!!
Think when the BC Lions and Canucks lace on their skates and people can actually go to restaurants theatres social gatherings, mall shopping...barber hair cut....nails / hair styled ...and fishing camp etc all will be well.
Can't come soon enough.
Find a cure someone.
Heard the virus hates sunlight !!! Hot sunny days then bring the care beds outside ...if on wheels.
Even 30 mins. Might dis infect everything naturally...put masks outside in sun...turn over mask in 15 minutes....
When BC Lions play "someone" will be more happier.
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Talking about where's the virus go ? Posts have been way down !!!
Hope the virus did not suddenly kill off FWR members....virus in lungs "not hopefully".
Reminds me of years ago in the Opinion section of the Vernon Morning Star paper. Two guys went back and forth in the letters section over their different interpretations of the bible. Two guys, dozens of letters, spanned weeks. It shut down all other discourse in the letters to the editor section. Eventually the editor of the paper wrote a statement on the Opinion page to the effect of "some people will never agree and we'll have to live with it" and that he would no longer run letters from those two guys.
I guess there comes a point when people start to give up. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. Rather talk about fishing :P
Went down to a small urban creek today. Took a 10-second video that had two lamprey, a salmon smolt, and a sculpin in the same frame. Also found a chunk of a Coke bottle from the early 1900s, an intact Crush bottle from the 70s, and an intact Coke bottle probably from the 70s. Low water right now, all kinds of old garbage to discover :D
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Reminds me of years ago in the Opinion section of the Vernon Morning Star paper. Two guys went back and forth in the letters section over their different interpretations of the bible. Two guys, dozens of letters, spanned weeks. It shut down all other discourse in the letters to the editor section. Eventually the editor of the paper wrote a statement on the Opinion page to the effect of "some people will never agree and we'll have to live with it" and that he would no longer run letters from those two guys.
I guess there comes a point when people start to give up. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. Rather talk about fishing :P
Went down to a small urban creek today. Took a 10-second video that had two lamprey, a salmon smolt, and a sculpin in the same frame. Also found a chunk of a Coke bottle from the early 1900s, an intact Crush bottle from the 70s, and an intact Coke bottle probably from the 70s. Low water right now, all kinds of old garbage to discover :D
Blood_Orange so true what you stated.
Me I've had my say.
I 'm willing to talk on this trend COVID 19 only ...and how it affects our lives including fishing.
But some people post and take a shot at priests or whatever...so ya who is going to reply....me.
Of course bad priests is wrong ...but if left like that it leaves the impression sexual misconduct is only in the church....no way ...it is all over...school system ...business....sex trafficking...medical field on and on...
Tell ya one thing there was at least 8-9 vehicle /boat trailers parked at launch in Steveston.
Plus many boats going down /up river to Captain Cove ..marina / boat launch there too.
Imagine most were heading out to Sandheads to fish.
Local guys /girls going boating as long as they practise social distancing....at the dock /launch should pose no problem.
Cheap fuel nowadays.
Had a long pedal bike ride along Fraser then prairie zig zag roads and made my way to #5 rd to Williams Rd and then all the way to west Richmond.
But did come across a sign by City of Richmond which said : keep distance 1.5 meters away from other person. Other city signs say : 2 metres or 6ft .
Maybe an old sign ...the update is now 2 metres of course.
That's cool to find ..old bottles...seeing marine life in creek...
Yrs ago worked at a psychaitric group home / house attendant...activity wkr. near Clarke /Commercial
Italian district....but on down time went to a park not far from false creek ...in side bushy areas people dug big holes to find old bottles.
One time city dump.
So I went there dug around the side of a big hole ( looked like a bomb exploded there type of hole ) and found all sorts of bottles.
I have a light blue colored Milk of Magnesia bottle with a date engraved in the bottle ...think it says 1905 or something like that.
If no one brings up religion or attack faith then I will not respond ;)
Of course I welcome the subject...my 2 close friends are the missionary types ...bible thumpers ...but share not arm twist guys.
But yes I am willing to keep this trend on track....
.....ya wonder if this Covid 19 crisis had anything to do with the guy flipping out back east and go on a shooting rampage.
Some people are losing it.
Recently 3 RCMP cars and ambulance were at our street..hope the stress did not cause whatever that went down there.
Some are calling Covid 19 the new normal ....like it is here to stay.
Hope that is not the case.
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Another article about the real level of infections.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-serology/los-angeles-coronavirus-infections-40-times-greater-than-known-cases-antibody-tests-suggest-idUSKBN22234S (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-serology/los-angeles-coronavirus-infections-40-times-greater-than-known-cases-antibody-tests-suggest-idUSKBN22234S)
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When the country begins to reopen, it will be a gradual, tentative and potentially frustrating process, experts say. Here’s a primer on who will make the decisions and what has to be considered:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-what-will-canadas-pandexit-strategy-look-like-how-officials-are/
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Covid-19 mutations underestimated, Chinese scientists warn, as DEADLIEST strains grip Europe and US
Chinese scientists have found that Europe and America’s East Coast have been infected by some of the most aggressive Covid-19 strains, as they discovered dozens of virus mutations. These destroy a host’s cells faster than others. The ability of the novel coronavirus to mutate has been previously vastly underestimated, a team from China’s Zhejiang University, led by Professor Li Lanjuan, says in a new study. The group found as many as 33 virus mutations in just 11 coronavirus patients they examined in the city of Hangzhou.
The researchers say that 60 percent of the strains they discovered turned out to be entirely new. In a worrying development, they also discovered that the virus’s mutations directly affect its deadliness. Their research revealed that the most aggressive type of Covid-19 could create a virus load 270 times greater than the least potent one.
Most importantly, though, the scientists say their discoveries could affect the development of the much-needed vaccine, because a one-size-fits-all solution might not work in case of Covid-19.
https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/
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This one directly effects me.
I am currently on one of the most powerful blood thinners ever developed...
Though novel coronavirus symptoms thus far have presented chiefly within the respiratory system, the infection is swiftly showing to be an all-out, system-wide assault that reaches far past the lungs. Doctors in hot spots across the globe have begun to report an unexpected prevalence of blood clotting among COVID cases, in what could pose a perfect storm of potentially fatal risk factors.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-patients-blood-clots/story?id=70131612
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Last week the posts were many...like a raging river...then suddenly the posts basically nearly stopped on the weekend...so my last post just kinda sat there.
Know I responded to faith topics ....so thought the posts stopped because of my comebacks...
So for so few days just posted in sports section...but notice the discussion area still is a trickle from what it was for last few weeks .....
Sooooo....guess it will not hurt to post over here at least a few posts weekly ;D
I do not want to be a snob or anything.
Crazy this is 100% honest..not making this up. Not last night but the night before had a dream and Rodney comes walking up to me and he puts out his hand, so of course I shake it.
And we held that shake for at least 8 secs. !!!
Do not think Rod would walk up to me in real life and shake my hand ....but who knows maybe it's a sign or something. ( trying not to be too spooky because a dream is just a dream and I normally do not think a dream has a message....but never ever has Rod been in my dreams before. Ya think Rodney in the dream would keep 6ft away "Covid 19 ;D)
Anyways : as discussion is still kinda dead...guess it doesn't hurt to give my 2 cents sometimes.
Is the world and this virus other crazy news making our lives very concerning...
The shooter in Nova Scotia..22 people killed for what?
Mast shooters or Olsen types who stalked raped /murdered...should have their grave put in a public square near their crimes were done and for $10 donation ( $ going to good cause ) and add in sex traffickers graves ( guys who slave girls against their will to service men ) and after giving donation we then can spit on their grave.
To show our total disrespect to what their actions did to people and their surviving family /friends.
And we have a fashion mogul in Canada who has 46 ladies say ...were raped by him !!!
Then we have this virus which as Nog's and Roderich posts indicate is so tricky ...more we know about it it just gets worse ...
Guess the posts could be down because in last few days the news just makes Canadians get sad ...
Hard to deal with. Think people are kinda in a mourning or how do we process all this crap.
Recent posts reveal...numbers of infected could be 40x more !!!
Various strain mutations ..some less aggressive other very deadly strains...
Even if one recovers the virus can cause permanent damage to liver lungs heart kidneys brain...
Damage heart in 4 dif. ways.
Plus blood clotting ( prev. posts )
Oh great.
Now we have crowds that are impatient and just want to stop isolating or even keeping a 6 ft distance apart. Even though there are 40,000 dead in recent weeks in the USA people pretend there is no problem ???
In Asia some Islam cleric died and 100,000 gathered for his funeral the other day.
Like a can of sardines...they stood.
Like the monkeys...I see nothing I hear nothing I say nothing.
What virus ? I do not see it. Guess they need a tour where the sick are fighting for their life.
USA protestors in crowds ...shouting " The virus problem does not exist "
Oh really?
When they get sick...their tune will be : help me save my life...
Alberta meat plant shut down...360 wkrs infected.
484 total...their family members...plus it may show no symptoms and or take 2/3 weeks to show symptoms ...the numbers are in reality much much higher....
Plus we have that Vancouver chicken processing plant with 28 workers infected.
These 28 have families wives children plus they were going into stores...gas stations ..
Going in public we must have that 6 ft distance ...because there is just too much of this virus out there.
If the gov. starts to ease the rules and people get sickly ...it will just become old news in a few months..
The new norm. People may just want to return to normal activities and when people get sick ...silently transport them to wherever. Shhhhhhh....no media reports.
Public may just want that "let's eat drink & be merry" ...if bad things happen just do not tell me about it.
Denial.
Go out ...and we are wilderbeasts /zebras crossing croc infested rivers...most make it but still many become victims.
We need a medicine / vaccine....
In mean time...wash hands sanitize hands, do not rub face,gargle with germ killing mouthwash,vit. C
vit. D ...rest up...hot drinks...sauerkraut ( feed good bacteria ) ....and try to stay away from getting too close to people !!!
46,000 deaths USA updated.
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no factual value in this video but well done none the less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJViT8BKq9k
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no factual value in this video but well done none the less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJViT8BKq9k
Very powerful message.
Unseen enemy.
Now virus is getting into beef slaughter houses...and poultry factories....Alberta /BC.
Going to affect production. Prices will rise ...and lower supplies to be had.
In West Vancouver hospital...
One member had post in that " local definition " trend about it's more scary to go food shopping than going out to sport fish .....
Well yesterday at the food store people spaced well inside store BUT as I'm paying for food the lady is in conversation with another lady shopper...both are behind me...I'm tapping my card and the lady comes and stands 1 foot from me !!!! >:(
She had a mask on but who cares about that. When this Covid 19 virus first came out the experts said it was so micro that it went right threw masks !!!
Thus various countries were experimenting in making masks that would work.
Anyways I just waved my hand like a flag in the wind and she moved away very quickly...and said three. "Sorry sorry sorry"
After grabbing bags I gave her a friendly wave as I did not want her to feel too down.
She just I guess was in such conversation with other customer she had lack of concentration.
But this vid really is so reflective on what is going on.
Sobering.
Deer goes thru forrest watching out for cougars wolves coyotes .....
We go thru our community trying to protect ourselves....when food shopping ....
If ya want attention just start coughing or sneezing in public.
Where will it all end?
Would not want to be dealing with public ...cabbie....bus driver ...cashier ....store clerk...or hospital care aid janitor ...etc...at this time.
Or a factory with lots of wkrs....
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Would not want to be dealing with public ...cabbie....bus driver ...cashier ....store clerk...or hospital care aid janitor ...etc...at this time.
I work as a plumber in a federal Institution, that does not have any cases.
Yesterday, more than once I had to listen to inmates make jokes such as " lol I wonder if he was told this is the covid unit, cough, cough" as I am unplugging toilets on the range.
Try to keep your cool in that moment. But these are the people user groups want released into the public.....
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I work as a plumber in a federal Institution, that does not have any cases.
Yesterday, more than once I had to listen to inmates make jokes such as " lol I wonder if he was told this is the covid unit, cough, cough" as I am unplugging toilets on the range.
Try to keep your cool in that moment. But these are the people user groups want released into the public.....
Quite the working environment. Some inmates are easy to get along with and others not so much.
Put in at least 200 hrs volunteer think it was??? had to do as part of a college diploma .... Willington Juv. Detention Centre.
Age to 17 yrs old I believe. A well dressed kid ...shirt tie ...put blanket over a girl and proceeded to multiple stab....toured Matsqui Jail Fraser Jail ( maple ridge/ mission area. ) the federal prison Kent also a minimum security jail along Chillawack River Rd.
As well as a Salvation Army juvenile place in Surrey /Langley area.
Long ago.
Oh ya a juvenile place in a South Burnaby.
Oh ya also Oakalla jail in Burnaby. Also Regina jail NW just outside of a City of Regina.
In about half of the above got a guy who performed at the grand ole Oprey into the places.
He told his Christian testimony / played his guitar...he sang lots of Hank Snow songs.
Johnny Cash was known to sing in prisons.
Tell you the truth never can let your guard down in those places.
Who knows what lurks in a convicts mind ???
Ones with murder/assault backgrounds...drugs...
But how well are these correctional places testing inmates ?
Bet there sure more infection cases than what are the numbers being tossed around.
Covid 19 even if a person recovers ..person can have pernament damage to lungs heart liver brain kidneys.....
But guess it's better working conditions in bc institutions than in S. America / mexican prisons...as it turned out drifted away from corrections and got into psychiatric group homes.
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We are giving up our freedoms in the fight against COVID-19. The question is will we get them back?
Does freedom – a true freedom of strong precepts rather than meaningless platitudes – interfere with what we must do to survive? And, if it does, how much freedom will we surrender to remain alive, free from disease, adequately fed and suitably housed? All of it? Some of it? None of it?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-we-are-giving-up-our-freedoms-in-the-fight-against-covid-19-the/
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We are giving up our freedoms in the fight against COVID-19. The question is will we get them back?
Does freedom – a true freedom of strong precepts rather than meaningless platitudes – interfere with what we must do to survive? And, if it does, how much freedom will we surrender to remain alive, free from disease, adequately fed and suitably housed? All of it? Some of it? None of it?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-we-are-giving-up-our-freedoms-in-the-fight-against-covid-19-the/
There will be some that go back but others will stick. It's no different than post 911. We lost freedoms then and we'll lose more now.
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I guess for people who don't have a subscription or buy this Saturday's edition of the Globe and Mail will have to wait a week or more to read the article in 'Nog link or this article article in the same section, Saturday:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-will-covid-19-kill-globalization/
The world has been turned upside down. The COVID-19 pandemic has already radically altered vast swaths of society, from human behaviour to health care, politics and economics. The big question is when or if things will return to normal.
Given more and more data indicates our bodies do not develop a long lasting immunity to Covid-19 once we are exposed, we will have to see what our world looks like a year or more down the road as to what our quality of life is like and what freedoms are still viable or have to be suspended or attenuated.
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That's a good question about freedoms...
Rules are made hopefully for the betterment and safety of the public.
Today during a 1.5 hr pedal bike ride as I neared home ( 4-5 blocks away ) notice a house that had it's driveway just packed with cars bumper to bumper and more parked out front on the street.
A big gathering definitely was being held in that house !!!
Wonder if the city /or police if they were notified would they lay charges or in the least tell people to go back home???
Lots of administrations / supervisors are having arguments with care wkrs / nurses / doctors....as they are demanding to have a N95 mask on during their shift.
Supervisors over rule the care aids or nurses saying their ward has no Covid 19 so they should wear no masks ( upsets the patients ) or if they are allowed they are given the ordinary cotton masks...
But nurses know the nature of this virus.
People can have the virus and show zero symptoms for weeks....so in a crowded environment it is peace of mind to wear a good quality mask.
One nurse had her own N95 masks at home so she put one under her normal mask that the hospital gave her.
When the supervisor saw she had a N95 mask on under her normal mask she was told to take it off.
She told them it was her own mask from home but the supervisor told her to take it off.
She said she would feel unsafe so she left the job.
Unpaid leave.
So many hospital workers do not have N95 masks which is one of the better quality ones.
Many workers refuse to work if not given one.
Like care aids who work in senior care facilities should all be given n95 masks as we know so many of these facilities have Covid 19 within the workplace.
Personally if I'm a police officer ambulance driver nurse care aid bus driver prison guard etc...I would want a N95 masks.
Wkrs need to be protected.
Heard that a mask and snorkel is a good protection from Covid 19.
Yep put your water mask on ...put snorkel mouth piece in your mouth and go to work...
Or food shopping ...
Give mask and snorkel to the nurses I guess ....
Check out this link:
Harry Rusk shares his story as an indigenous country singer who survived TB quarantine - Danielle Smith
- omny.fm
Radio recording of Harry Rusk a full blood native from BC who got TB...he said it wiped out Indian villages ....killed his dad ...and then his mom. EDIT IN: TB killed his only bro too.
He bared survived it.
He went on to sing many years on the Grand ole Oprey in Nashville.
He is in his 80s now.
I spent a week with him back in 1986 and he was 50 yrs old then.
Arranged for him to sing and tell his story in 15 places Mon to Fri.
Yep 3 places a day for 5 days....what a week that was ...fun though.
But hope yous can take away how TB took so many lives ...and in a sense can happen the same in comparison with Covid 19.
Turns people's lives upside down.
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Cody (of Cody's Lab Youtube channel) built a positive pressure contraption to keep him safe when out in public:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwxyzXcP7k
Probably makes you less likely to catch the virus and more likely to be shot by a police officer or security guard.
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Given more and more data indicates our bodies do not develop a long lasting immunity to Covid-19 once we are exposed, we will have to see what our world looks like a year or more down the road as to what our quality of life is like and what freedoms are still viable or have to be suspended or attenuated.
And yet our useless PM insists and quote...."that things will NOT return to normal until a vaccination is found".
Do the math. It doesn't turn out in our favor. There is no vaccination, nor will there be one that is any better than a seasonal flu shot (15% success rate on a good year).
Commie Trudeau and his cronies have NO intentions of EVER letting us go back to the level of freedom we once had. Only the sheep are too naïve to see the truth.
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Actually seasonal flu vaccines are about 70% effective meaning people who get it do not get flu in any given year. That's consistent with my experience having gotten the vaccine for 25+ years. I almost never get the flu.
There are a lot of new approaches to vaccines rather than the tried and true method of using dead or deactivated virus slices or sections to trip the production of anti-bodies. At least one provided DNA instruction to produce anti-bodies when live RNA is encountered.
However at best an effective vaccine isn't expected before late fall 2021.
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I think people are frothing at the mouth with the thought they wont have compitition at their local fishing holes as a result of covid.
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Actually seasonal flu vaccines are about 70% effective meaning people who get it do not get flu in any given year. That's consistent with my experience having gotten the vaccine for 25+ years. I almost never get the flu.
There are a lot of new approaches to vaccines rather than the tried and true method of using dead or deactivated virus slices or sections to trip the production of anti-bodies. At least one provided DNA instruction to produce anti-bodies when live RNA is encountered.
However at best an effective vaccine isn't expected before late fall 2021.
Stop watching CBC Ralph. Even these guys who are considered MSM say 29% last year.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-vaccine-had-another-disappointing-year-will-this-year-be-different
When you actually get into the real science and factual information.....it goes WELL below that though.
Oh...and I've never had the flu shot and only once had a mild case of Influenza since I turned 16. That was many years ago.
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I think people are frothing at the mouth with the thought they wont have compitition at their local fishing holes as a result of covid.
You aren't kidding. I can't wait to have those lakes to myself. In the past when I've fished hike in lakes that have basically zero pressure.....the fish are so dumb (not yet wised up to man's offerings) you could cast a floating shoelace and catch the trophy fish.
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Stop watching CBC Ralph. Even these guys who are considered MSM say 29% last year.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-vaccine-had-another-disappointing-year-will-this-year-be-different
When you actually get into the real science and factual information.....it goes WELL below that though.
Oh...and I've never had the flu shot and only once had a mild case of Influenza since I turned 16. That was many years ago.
The BC nurses union grieved making flu shots mandatory
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And yet our useless PM insists and quote...."that things will NOT return to normal until a vaccination is found".
Do the math. It doesn't turn out in our favor. There is no vaccination, nor will there be one that is any better than a seasonal flu shot (15% success rate on a good year).
Commie Trudeau and his cronies have NO intentions of EVER letting us go back to the level of freedom we once had. Only the sheep are too naïve to see the truth.
Well the math would say 15 percent of the world population of approx 7.6 billion is approx 1140000000 so probably worth coming up with a vaccination and using that as a good bench mark for a new normal.
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Well the math would say 15 percent of the world population of approx 7.6 billion is approx 1140000000 so probably worth coming up with a vaccination and using that as a good bench mark for a new normal.
I agree this whole thing has me looking at getting the flu shot annually. 30-70% is better then 0%
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321207#side-effects
and quote "Side effects of flu shots
The flu vaccine cannot cause flu because it is made with inactivated (“dead”) or weakened viruses, which are not infectious, or with synthetic, lab-made variants of the flu virus.
However, a flu shot may cause slight flu-like symptoms that can last for a few days, such as:
mild fever
a headache
muscle aches"
Ummmmmm……..I won't get the flu, but I will get a few days of flu like symptoms?????? Baaahhhhh…...go sheep go.
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When you actually get into the real science and factual information.....it goes WELL below that though.
LOL!! Somehow we doubt you have a good understanding what science actually is.
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What is in a flu shot and quote from those who approve of the flu shot"
2. Formaldehyde
"Formaldehyde is toxic and potentially lethal in high doses. However, it is present in such small amounts in a flu vaccination that it is harmless."
So let me get this straight...they admit it's toxic and potentially lethal in high doses, but it's ALSO harmless at the same time....Sorry....common sense red flag is kicking in again.
What else? and quote"
4. Thimerosal
"Thimerosal is made of an organic form of mercury known as ethylmercury, a safe compound that usually only stays in the blood for a few days.
It is different from the standard mercury that can cause illness in large doses, and from the mercury found in seafood (called methylmercury), which can stay in the body for years."
Okay....it usually stays in the blood for a few days???? What happens to those that it doesn't. It matters not. It's is highly debatable by experts on both sides that mercury from vaccinations does not leave the bloodstream just like eating fish that are high in mercury does not leave the bloodstream. Only a blood transfusion from someone who is lower in mercury build up can reduce the mercury in a person.
There is a reason the agenda wants people to pump this crap into their system....and the outcome is not pretty.
There is other fun stuff too in these vaccinations.....but those 2 say enough for me to bow out.....thanks but no thanks.
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Here's Why Herd Immunity Won't Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic
The sad fact is that herd immunity just isn't a solution to our pandemic woes. Yes, it may eventually happen anyway, but hoping that it will save us all is just not realistic. The time to discuss herd immunity is when we have a vaccine developed, and not one second earlier, because at that point we will be able to really stop the epidemic in its tracks.
Until we have a vaccine, anyone talking about herd immunity as a preventative strategy for COVID-19 is simply wrong. Fortunately, there are other ways of preventing infections from spreading, which all boil down to avoiding people who are sick.
https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic
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Here's Why Herd Immunity Won't Save Us From The COVID-19 Pandemic
The sad fact is that herd immunity just isn't a solution to our pandemic woes. Yes, it may eventually happen anyway, but hoping that it will save us all is just not realistic. The time to discuss herd immunity is when we have a vaccine developed, and not one second earlier, because at that point we will be able to really stop the epidemic in its tracks.
Until we have a vaccine, anyone talking about herd immunity as a preventative strategy for COVID-19 is simply wrong. Fortunately, there are other ways of preventing infections from spreading, which all boil down to avoiding people who are sick.
https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic
I read the article. You're comparing apples to oranges.
The article is talking about the Mumps vaccine which is over 96% effective. I fully support the Mumps vaccine and that should show everyone here that I'm not part of the anti-vax crowd.
However, even the most 'progressive experts' say that there very well may NEVER be a vaccine that effective for Covid-19...or even remotely close for that matter. In fact, many of them argue there won't even be one that is as effective as the flu shot. Herd immunity isn't something I'd rely on either, but I've said it before, when you take out the people who were already 6 weeks away from death anyway....Covid-19 fatality rate is lower than what would require a this level of worldwide shutdown of life.
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'WHO should never again have authority over a pandemic,'
U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to halt funding to the World Health Organization has been met with widespread fury and condemnation. But even people who have denounced Trump's decision are asking pointed questions about how the WHO has responded to COVID-19.
Among them is Amir Attaran, a professor in the Faculties of Law and School of Epidemiology and Public Health at the University of Ottawa. He says Trump is using the organization as a scapegoat to distract attention from his own failures — but the WHO should never be allowed to handle a pandemic again.
He also says that Canada is one of the worst developed nations in the world when it comes to collecting and sharing public health data, and it will seriously hamper our ability to restart the economy, following the pandemic.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-for-april-26-2020-1.5536429/who-should-never-again-have-authority-over-a-pandemic-says-law-and-public-health-professor-1.5540895
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And yet our useless PM insists and quote...."that things will NOT return to normal until a vaccination is found".
Do the math. It doesn't turn out in our favor. There is no vaccination, nor will there be one that is any better than a seasonal flu shot (15% success rate on a good year).
Commie Trudeau and his cronies have NO intentions of EVER letting us go back to the level of freedom we once had. Only the sheep are too naïve to see the truth.
lets stop for a moment and say andrew scheer won the election. you really think anything would be different? no it wouldn't. conservatives run ontario. how are they doing? save the trudeau bashing for when he actually deserves it. at least trudeau didn't tell everyone to inject disinfectant or that some magical light would cure the virus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BalDN6iGYpE
in fact i am liking doug ford more and more. at least he has the balls to call the protesters what they really are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pokFfm2vVhU
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lets stop for a moment and say andrew scheer won the election. you really think anything would be different? no it wouldn't. conservatives run ontario. how are they doing? save the trudeau bashing for when he actually deserves it. at least trudeau didn't tell everyone to inject disinfectant or that some magical light would cure the virus.
You do realize that Trudeau has full control over the Canadian Media?
Let's see, we'd have no carbon tax which just the other day there was an independent article that proved that the carbon tax has not helped remove any amount of emissions at all.
The conservatives don't write blank checks to Terrorist countries.
In fact Andrew Sheer just demanded that Trudeau stop sending financial aid to China....JT ignored him of course.
I could go on forever...and I'm not saying the conservatives would solve all the problems, but you really can't compare them to the liberals....you just can't.
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Stop watching CBC Ralph. Even these guys who are considered MSM say 29% last year.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-vaccine-had-another-disappointing-year-will-this-year-be-different
When you actually get into the real science and factual information.....it goes WELL below that though.
Oh...and I've never had the flu shot and only once had a mild case of Influenza since I turned 16. That was many years ago.
Around 70% of people in Canada who get the flu shot are over 65 and have reduced immune systems which translates to a producing a lesser amount of anti-bodies when they receive the vaccine. Studies conducted over a series of decades , not just last year, indicate the effectiveness is in the range of 70% for children and adults under 65.
I did not get those number from CBC they come from a study published in the Lancet; https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(11)70295-X/fulltext (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(11)70295-X/fulltext)...
Where you cherry pick your numbers I have no idea and don't care. However it is true the effectiveness of the vaccine has declined in recent years and some years they miss the virus that causes the main outbreak. One has to remember influenza is a very large group of virus not just a few and the vaccine has to be custom made for the expectations of every year. New vaccines targeted higher risk patient profiles are available.
WMY - the nurses Union grieved the vaccine decision because it requires their members to get a vaccine if they want to or not. Most employers simply make it available for free where the work place suggests that be so. Otherwise there was no argument about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
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You do realize that Trudeau has full control over the Canadian Media?
Better get your tin foil hat on then.
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Influenza virus mutates much faster then SARS-CoV2 (causes covid-19). By the time they actually make the flu vaccine, the virus has already mutated. They're always fighting the last war. The vaccine you get this year is actually against last years virus.
The part of SARS-CoV2 they are targeting with the vaccine, the spike that sticks out, barely mutates, if at all. Thus the RNA and single protein vaccines in development should be effective for quite some time.
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Actually they sample virus and cases in Asia during the flu season there so it is more like a 6 to 9 month turnaround. There are many more strains of flu and as of right now 1 Covid-19 virus.
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However it is true the effectiveness of the vaccine has declined in recent years and some years they miss the virus that causes the main outbreak. One has to remember influenza is a very large group of virus not just a few and the vaccine has to be custom made for the expectations of every year. New vaccines targeted higher risk patient profiles are available.
There you go....now you're understanding how it works. When you miss the main virus, hitting 70% is a pipe dream.....even 7% is a stretch when you miss the main outbreak.
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The part of SARS-CoV2 they are targeting with the vaccine, the spike that sticks out, barely mutates, if at all. Thus the RNA and single protein vaccines in development should be effective for quite some time.
Explain to me this. It's called Covid-19 because the Corona Virus has been around for years. The spike that sticks out that you speak of is one of the common characteristics of the corona virus through the years. If they didn't find a way to isolate and vaccinate against that particular spike with the last several versions of the virus over the years, what makes you think they will be able to isolate the spike this time and produce a viable vaccine?
This first link says 33 mutations so far
https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/
This link describes 3 DISTINCT types of Covid 19 but is already over 2 weeks old
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/10/coronavirus-mutated-three-distinct-strains-spread-across-world-12536852/
This link is from today and says around 30 mutations
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/articles/294781982/coronavirus-could-have-mutated-into-more-than-30-deadlier-strains-finds-study.html
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Considering Canada shipped just about all we had to China in Feb....why would Drumpf give us anymore? Trudeau is known worldwide as a laughing stock and completely incompetent. For those who disagree, my challenge to you is read some Canadian new stories that are published in other countries. They have been laughing at us since he got elected the first time.
thought trudeau was the laughing stock of the world? i guess not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTPOlruyDk
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thought trudeau was the laughing stock of the world? i guess not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTPOlruyDk
Already proven as false news and totally taken out of context.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-check-no-trump-did-not-tell-people-to-inject-themselves-with-disinfectant-or-drink-bleach
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"Formaldehyde is toxic and potentially lethal in high doses. However, it is present in such small amounts in a flu vaccination that it is harmless."
So let me get this straight...they admit it's toxic and potentially lethal in high doses, but it's ALSO harmless at the same time....Sorry....common sense red flag is kicking in again.
You better recalibrate your 'common sense flag', because yes, thats exactly what they are saying and there's nothing paradoxical about that. Here are a few other things known to be toxic at high concentrations and safe at low levels:
iron, zinc, copper, vitamin-C, alcohol, caffeine, aspirin, salt, water
The dose is the poison, as they say.
There may be some substances for which there is possibly no 'safe' concentration. Formaldehyde is likely not one, because your body produces (and metabolizes) it all the time as part of it's normal physiological process. The amount of formaldehyde in a vaccine is far less than what's normally circulating in your blood. Formaldehyde is certainly linked to some serious health effects at sufficiently high doses but not at remotely close to the amount present in a vaccine.
If you are worried about it so much, maybe research what foods naturally contain formaldehyde, and compare to how much is in a vaccine.
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Already proven as false news and totally taken out of context.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-check-no-trump-did-not-tell-people-to-inject-themselves-with-disinfectant-or-drink-bleach
a right wing propaganda website said it was fake news. no way. if this is where your getting your news from, that explains alot.
if you actually took the time to watch my link, you could see actually world governments having to tell there citizens not to do what he says. those weren't actors lol.
than you think, nope, ben shaprio says its fake news so it must be true since he is the editor in chief of the daily wire. o man were in trouble folks.
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a right wing propaganda website said it was fake news. no way. if this is where your getting your news from, that explains alot.
if you actually took the time to watch my link, you could see actually world governments having to tell there citizens not to do what he says. those weren't actors lol.
than you think, nope, ben shaprio says its fake news so it must be true since he is the editor in chief of the daily wire. o man were in trouble folks.
You should see him in action. Ben Shaprio debates lefties like those in your youtube video and utterly destroys them with facts and evidence......not feelings and ideas.
He's also not the only site that says it's fake news. Trump was totally taken out of context although I agree he should of just kept his mouth shut this particular time.
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You better recalibrate your 'common sense flag', because yes, thats exactly what they are saying and there's nothing paradoxical about that. Here are a few other things known to be toxic at high concentrations and safe at low levels:
iron, zinc, copper, vitamin-C, alcohol, caffeine, aspirin, salt, water
The dose is the poison, as they say.
There may be some substances for which there is possibly no 'safe' concentration. Formaldehyde is likely not one, because your body produces (and metabolizes) it all the time as part of it's normal physiological process. The amount of formaldehyde in a vaccine is far less than what's normally circulating in your blood. Formaldehyde is certainly linked to some serious health effects at sufficiently high doses but not at remotely close to the amount present in a vaccine.
If you are worried about it so much, maybe research what foods naturally contain formaldehyde, and compare to how much is in a vaccine.
This isn't news to me, but the Formaldehyde in the flu shot isn't naturally occurring. Its synthetic....same reason street drugs are so much more dangerous than they used to be. There is a lot of inaccuracy in synthetic drugs. Look how many people OD on bad batches. And just because it comes from a pharmacy doesn't mean its good for you either...and it doesn't mean there isn't risk.
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You should see him in action. Ben Shaprio debates lefties like those in your youtube video and utterly destroys them with facts and evidence......not feelings and ideas.
He's also not the only site that says it's fake news. Drumpf was totally taken out of context although I agree he should of just kept his mouth shut this particular time.
you mean this ben shipiro. ya hes a rock star all right. "we want small government but we want government to get between a woman and her doctor". before you say fake news the person interviewing him is andrew neilis, a conservative host on the bbc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E
trump is hard to defend isnt he? he definitely needs to keep his mouth shut. could you imagine being his press secretary or is lawyer. o wait, hes been through 3 press secretaries and a least one lawyer who is in federal prison like all the rest of the cronies that got him elected.
this is where you deflect and say how bad trudeau and hillary are. i will save you the time.
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Explain to me this. It's called Covid-19 because the Corona Virus has been around for years.
Yes corona viruses cause the common cold too. They are a different type of corona virus with a different spike... with no widely available vaccine.
The spike that sticks out that you speak of is one of the common characteristics of the corona virus through the years. If they didn't find a way to isolate and vaccinate against that particular spike with the last several versions of the virus over the years, what makes you think they will be able to isolate the spike this time and produce a viable vaccine?
The spike might look the same in pictures but really it's different. The closest one causes the original SARS... still no widely available vaccine for that either. Good thing we don't need it.
This first link says 33 mutations so far
https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/ (https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/)
This link describes 3 DISTINCT types of Covid 19 but is already over 2 weeks old
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/10/coronavirus-mutated-three-distinct-strains-spread-across-world-12536852/ (https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/10/coronavirus-mutated-three-distinct-strains-spread-across-world-12536852/)
This link is from today and says around 30 mutations
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/articles/294781982/coronavirus-could-have-mutated-into-more-than-30-deadlier-strains-finds-study.html (https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/articles/294781982/coronavirus-could-have-mutated-into-more-than-30-deadlier-strains-finds-study.html)
Yes it mutates, but because the polymerase has a proofreading function (which influenza virus does not have), it mutates slowly. With influenza, virtually every single viral particle in an infected person's body has a mutation. That's at least billions of mutations per person. With SARS CoV2 you might find a handfull of mutations in a single patient, most of which will be loss of function and less deadly. In the last link the operative word in the link is "could". They really don't know if the mutations are more deadly. As a general thing, 99% of mutations are loss of function and less deadly or completely non-functional.
The spike protein of SARS CoV2 evolved (by mutating) to attach to a specific protein on the surface of our cells. It seems like almost any change in the binding region of the spike causes loss of function. This makes it an obvious target for a vaccine.
Yes it's possible, even probable, that there will be mutations in the spike binding region in the future. But it will be slow and hopefully vaccine development will keep up.
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But it will be slow and hopefully vaccine development will keep up.
Hopefully.....
You do know that Dr. Tam has been wrong with every prediction she's made so far. I don't like depending on 'hopefully'
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you mean this ben shipiro. ya hes a rock star all right. "we want small government but we want government to get between a woman and her doctor". before you say fake news the person interviewing him is andrew neilis, a conservative host on the bbc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E
Ok....out of 1000s of debate he's done, you were able to find his very worst. Kudos on that. He even admitted he was burned in it. He said he wasn't prepared. Most of the time he ruins his opponents.
But here is the kicker.
If you watched and read the follow up, you'll notice that he admitted he was wrong.
Find me a lefty that would have done the same.
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Ok....out of 1000s of debate he's done, you were able to find his very worst. Kudos on that. He even admitted he was burned in it. He said he wasn't prepared. Most of the time he ruins his opponents.
But here is the kicker.
If you watched and read the follow up, you'll notice that he admitted he was wrong.
Find me a lefty that would have done the same.
I agree, hes not a dumb guy and that interview is definitely his worst. Im sure he would make a better president than trump except for how close he is with Judaism. Not saying Judaism is bad, just believe religion has no part in any government.
I am sure if i dig far enough i could find a lefty admitting they were wrong. The fact is we are all human and humans make mistakes. The real growth is where you learn and move forward.
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I agree, hes not a dumb guy and that interview is definitely his worst. Im sure he would make a better president than trump except for how close he is with Judaism. Not saying Judaism is bad, just believe religion has no part in any government
Actually Ben believes in the separation of church and state....he would not push Judaism on the country, but like most conservatives, he would look to bring in conservative values as law wherever possible. In fairness I would expect nothing less of anyone who calls themselves conservative.
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Do you know that Trump has been wrong 16,000 times in 3 years.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479041-fact-checker-counts-16k-false-misleading-claims-by-trump-in-three (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479041-fact-checker-counts-16k-false-misleading-claims-by-trump-in-three)
Thats over 14 times a day.
Not even counting the covid mistakes there lol
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Do you know that Trump has been wrong 16,000 times in 3 years.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479041-fact-checker-counts-16k-false-misleading-claims-by-trump-in-three (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479041-fact-checker-counts-16k-false-misleading-claims-by-trump-in-three)
Not even counting the covid mistakes there lol
Coming from the hill? ……….
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And you know better right?
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Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html)
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President Trump made 18,000 false or misleading claims in 1,170 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/14/president-trump-made-18000-false-or-misleading-claims-1170-days/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/14/president-trump-made-18000-false-or-misleading-claims-1170-days/)
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Elect Robert G as pres! Even he would do a better job then Trump.
Maybe only half as many misleading claims.
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Actually Ben believes in the separation of church and state....he would not push Judaism on the country, but like most conservatives, he would look to bring in conservative values as law wherever possible. In fairness I would expect nothing less of anyone who calls themselves conservative.
Thats good cause i definitely cant agree with his stance on abortion.
That being said, this got off topic again. Hope we can back to a somewhat normal before we see to much economic devastation. I know people were already hurting before this happened.
My grandmother past last weekend and we can't even have a proper funeral. Family had to visit her through a glass window on her final days. The priest wouldn't even come visit because of this whole situation. One of the juniors did come though. It gave her some peace before she passed.
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Coming from the hill? ……….
A show called rising is on the hill YouTube channel. Theirs a conservative named Saagar Enjeti and progressive named named Krystal ball. Their show is quite good at exposing the ugliness of Washington from both sides, and trust me theirs alot to go around.
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My grandmother past last weekend and we can't even have a proper funeral. Family had to visit her through a glass window on her final days. The priest wouldn't even come visit because of this whole situation. One of the juniors did come though. It gave her some peace before she passed.
Sorry to hear, Fox. Really tough when you can't even do a proper funeral.
My father of my wife's friend is expected to pass today or tomorrow. He was on that cruise ship and he came down with the corona virus. He's been on life support in an induced coma for the past week but his condition is deteriorating.
Scary times. Stay safe!
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This isn't news to me, but the Formaldehyde in the flu shot isn't naturally occurring. Its synthetic....same reason street drugs are so much more dangerous than they used to be. There is a lot of inaccuracy in synthetic drugs. Look how many people OD on bad batches. And just because it comes from a pharmacy doesn't mean its good for you either...and it doesn't mean there isn't risk.
This is absurd. There is chemically absolutely no difference between 'natural' and 'synthetic' formaldehyde.
Street drugs can certainly be dangerous because they're haphazardly manufactured with little to no quality assurances. This has nothing to do with the safety profile of vaccines unless you're getting home-made booster shots from the alley behind the 7-11
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Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html)
You may not be aware, but the ratings for CNN are so bad that recently they were outwatched by "Ancient Aliens" on the History Channel in PRIME TIME viewing.
Almost no one gives any thought to what CNN says anymore. Even the left are deserting them. As DT says...."they are fake news"
President Trump made 18,000 false or misleading claims in 1,170 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/14/president-trump-made-18000-false-or-misleading-claims-1170-days/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/14/president-trump-made-18000-false-or-misleading-claims-1170-days/)
Not sure if it's possible, but The Washington Post may actually be worse fake news than CNN. Again....even the left is deserting the WP.
Thats good cause i definitely cant agree with his stance on abortion.
Of course, what could be worse than a person who wants to protect innocent unborn children from being murdered in the manner of being ripped out of their mother's womb in pieces with a metal claw? Bad person that Ben is.
This is absurd. There is chemically absolutely no difference between 'natural' and 'synthetic' formaldehyde.
Not every expert agrees with that, but I'm not an expert on synthetic drugs so I will bow out.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWpJiK-UcAAEUf7?format=jpg&name=medium)
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/april-27-update-covid-19-bc-1.5546923
Looks pretty good, but...
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/04/27/Pandemic-New-Danger-Zone/
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Of course, what could be worse than a person who wants to protect innocent unborn children from being murdered in the manner of being ripped out of their mother's womb in pieces with a metal claw? Bad person that Ben is.
that is between a doctor and their patient. the government has no place in these decisions.
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https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/04/27/Pandemic-New-Danger-Zone/
good article
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Imagine being that consumed by self righteousness in your entire life and constantly bitter and wanting everyone to live by your values lol... Again, I sympathize those who have to live with Robert.
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Ok....out of 1000s of debate he's done, you were able to find his very worst. Kudos on that. He even admitted he was burned in it. He said he wasn't prepared. Most of the time he ruins his opponents.
But here is the kicker.
If you watched and read the follow up, you'll notice that he admitted he was wrong.
Find me a lefty that would have done the same.
didnt even need to dig, it just came to me. kinda wish steelhead did that too.
fast forward to 4:17 of the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN1kzzuY-ic
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You may not be aware, but the ratings for CNN are so bad that recently they were outwatched by "Ancient Aliens" on the History Channel in PRIME TIME viewing.
Almost no one gives any thought to what CNN says anymore. Even the left are deserting them. As DT says...."they are fake news"
Boy, you had to do some digging there, to 'justify' your love of your dear ignorant, toddler in chief ... 'leader' ...DT.
It's beyond me that anyone gives DT an ounce of credit for even a single thought from his pea brain.
BTW. That 'recent' rating you refer too was a one week period from Aug 2018.... who the f*** gives a s***
He's such an idiot that scenarios like this, sadly, are believable
Random questioner:
"Mr. President, you can't land astronauts on the sun, they will burn!"
Trump:
"What if they landed at night?"
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Random questioner:
"Mr. President, you can't land astronauts on the sun, they will burn!"
Trump:
"What if they landed at night?"
:)
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Imagine being that consumed by self righteousness in your entire life and constantly bitter and wanting everyone to live by your values lol... Again, I sympathize those who have to live with Robert.
Let's put big_fish down to receive a poo / cupcake stir stick. ;D
Robert and I if you view our past posts ...go way way back ...we have admitted 1000s of times we were wrong and apologized ...we threw dust /dirt all over our bodies to show how wrong we were. ::)
"self righteousness ??? ....wanting everyone to live by your values??? Guess you mean our Christian values. Let's take it deeper where the rubber hits the road...it's Jesus or the highway...
Heaven or hell for eternity...
Robert is on record saying he is forgiven only by Jesus's forgiveness. Mercy/grace/he did not work or buy it...so is that self righteousness. Self righteousness will only put a soul in hades. Hell. Eternal darkness.
Place of torment/suffering.
We know but you are guessing.
We do not roll the dice or pick straws.
We know.
Kinda like if Robert and I watched the eastern time zone of the final Dancing with the Stars and we know what couple wins the trophy.
But the show comes on 3 hrs later on the west coast....yous are guessing who will win.
Well Robert & I know.
It's a sure bet.... May get the evil thought to bet you $1000.00.
Your on you say.
Well we win. You shake your head as ya pay up $$$$ ;D
When a true believer ( can be in any denomination ) has prayed from the heart & has literally felt the conversion change...not brainwashing/programming....but an encounter with the living God and even sense the Holy Spirit working in our lives !!! Jesus did say He would send the Comforter!!
That happened on the Day of Pentecost. The Holy Spirit fell on the apostles in a powerful way as they waited on God in the upper room.
The people who say it is not so...have fallen for the devil's lies.
Maybe you tried churchanity/ religious motions programming....the churches do have a % of brainwashed churchgoers/pastors/priests.
The weeds growing with the wheat in the field.
Values (Christian values) come after knowing God.
Don't try to have Robert's or my Christian values.....against abortion porn do not sex before marriage so on....you will say : Who are we to judge.
But if you encounter God ...you will then say....how does God want me to think talk and behave that is pleasing to Him.
I give out a tract : This was your Life.
Read it on the net.
Yep we will stand before our Maker one day.
Honestly we are living in the Matthew ch 24.
Look at the signs.
In Moses day the pharaoh did not want to let the slaves go.
God sent plagues to Egypt. ( think 10 plagues till pharaoh said Ok go ..leave ...get lost...)
Plus God sent the flood. Noah's time.
God also burnt Sodom and Gamorah. (Sp?)
It is very very possible God in 2019/20 has allowed this pestilence. Why?
Because He sees the gov. of NYC advocating abortion right at birth...
God sees the new age ...sees the cults...sees evolution taught more of facts...sees porn on the net...sees the pride...self willed ...the unrighteousness....the drugs...the violence....rapes...sexual abuse...trafficking boys girls teens young people in their 20s/30s...He sees a man at the Golden Globe awards who thanks the Prince of Darkness when he wins!!!
So.....think God is allowing Revelations ( Book of Revelations ) unfold.
This virus if God is allowing it ...then is just the beginning of sorrows....more and more bad stuff will be coming.
Either run to God or curse Him. It's your choice.
Been to many Hollywood blockbusters at theatre and at one pt....using Jesus name in vain happens.
God has been patient but the sin had got too great.
Like a hockey game the ref may not call a strict game ...but if the game gets into high sticks slash fighting boarding the ref will be forced to start calling penalties.
Ref says Enough is enough.
Sin bin time.
God heaven time or sin bin time...hell.
Just my take...sharing but you do your thing how you see it.
If you want to be wrong ...then be wrong.
Robert and I KNOW because we have had an encounter with God....afterwards it all filters from there...our new values.
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Let's
wtf are you on about?
Uh, not everything revolves around religion, stop bringing it up. I wasn't referring to Christianity, your faith really isn't that special.
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Boy, you had to do some digging there, to 'justify' your love of your dear ignorant, toddler in chief ... 'leader' ...DT.
It's beyond me that anyone gives DT an ounce of credit for even a single thought from his pea brain.
BTW. That 'recent' rating you refer too was a one week period from Aug 2018.... who the f*** gives a s***
He's such an idiot that scenarios like this, sadly, are believable
Random questioner:
"Mr. President, you can't land astronauts on the sun, they will burn!"
Trump:
"What if they landed at night?"
I don't envy anyone who lives down there right now. I think overall this country has done a great job considering this is the first pandemic we have to deal with. It feels good to see that the leader of the country, the provinces and territories and majority of the citizens are all on the same page working together to get us back on track.
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wtf are you on about?
Uh, not everything revolves around religion, stop bringing it up. I wasn't referring to Christianity, your faith really isn't that special.
Seems Robert had so many attacking him....kinda like he was pinned down and a squad was shooting at him. So......thought if I went around and threw a few sticks of dynamite !!!
Well when you said he was self righteous...and he wants to force his values on everyone ....just assumed you were talking about his true real living "faith in the Maker" ...faith that is special.
Like a lifeboat is special when the commercial fish boat is taking on water. ;D
Ok you were not attacking his faith you say.
Ok "sorry" . Over and out !!!!
Enjoy your day....don't let me cause your blood pressure to increase.
Don't worry be happy as that song goes.
Music video too.
As for me....and my house we will serve The Lord.
Your the King of your own castle.
That 's what Canada is all about. Freedom to choose.
Your so right Rodney... Our numbers of infection are so much lower...but hope it stays that way.
Canada ( even States ) are under pressure to lift the isolation restrictions....people are getting antsy and impatient.
But as we get more and more into buses , restaurants , schools, theatres, sports events ...will Covid 19 spike up like a lit match near a gas can Ga boom....
Then it's back to square one.
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...It feels good to see that the leader of the country...
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Matt, there's no reason to laugh or be condescending because I shared my thoughts. You may not like or agree with Trudeau, nor do I agree with everything he sees, but he is after all the prime minister of this country. I'd say things could be a lot worse if you look around at how other countries are dealing with the current crisis.
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Rod: BC has done an excellent job. Full Credit to one Bonnie Henry.
Wish the fed's had listened to her back in January, but in their complete lack of wisdom, they chose the WHO instead.
That has proven to be a issue bordering on failure no matter how you look at it.
The graphics art designer is but rarely in the news any more.
The Tam woman has been wrong at every single juncture.
And your hero is so far out of his depth he has to keep in hiding before coming on stage (literally) to mumble a few platitudes each passing day.
You think the feds have done a decent job?
Have a good hard look at our eastern population concentration centers and try that one on again.
Trudeau, as most of his cabinet, are a dismal failure at a time when we very much need strength.
Don't care how you want to spin that buddy, it is the way I, and a great many Canadians feel at this point.
So excuse me when I openly laugh at your support for our own buffoon while you insinuate (deflect) disdain towards yet another buffoon.
Cheers,
Nog
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First of all, Trudeau is not my hero. As mentioned in the previous post, there are plenty of issues which I would not agree with Trudeau. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have pointed out some of those on my platforms. Can he and his cabinet do better? Of course he can, but as a Canadian government I personally think they have done a good job compared to other countries. If this was Harper's government, I'm sure it would have been good, because this is Canada. I don't consider myself a left, or a right, so quit labelling people when their point of view doesn't align with yours.
I don't know about others, but personally I start tuning out when others resort to name calling. It weakens the POV being presented.
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I don't know about others, but personally I start tuning out when others resort to name calling. It weakens the POV being presented.
Was not, and did not call you any names Rod.
I respect you for who you are and what you do.
In this matter we will simply have to agree to disagree.
Cheers,
Nog
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:)
;D ;D
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i cant get enough of these videos. it's like a bad car accident, it hurts to look, but you just can't turn away. feel sorry for their children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkBseVTUow&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2o2BO1VNCDdqjCCoEM1UBQEx5h8PONcbxSThnvyd5odC0paNXSWU1-Dys
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Thanks for the chuckle ;)
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It feels good to see that the leader of the country, the provinces and territories and majority of the citizens are all on the same page working together to get us back on track.
Come on Rod...wake up
Lets start with his resume that no one seemed to care about when they elected this incompetent fool.
(https://i.imgur.com/aCNnJJG.jpg)
Next let's see what he does each day at work.
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or wait....depends if he is at work
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except when he's enjoying his weekend after telling the rest of us to stay home and not visit our families...but it's ok for him to visit his.
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Time to get back to renovating his house....oh wait....who's going to pay for that?
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But Trump is the real problem...let's talk about him
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Oh wait.....that was about JT...not Trump.....whoops
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Seems Robert had so many attacking him....kinda like he was pinned down and a squad was shooting at him. So......thought if I went around and threw a few sticks of dynamite !!!
Well when you said he was self righteous...and he wants to force his values on everyone ....just assumed you were talking about his true real living "faith in the Maker" ...faith that is special.
A-Boater....when the day comes that people stop mocking, ridiculing, and hating me for my beliefs......that is when I'll be upset and start to worry.
John 15:18
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me (Jesus) before it hated you.
When people hate Jesus who is absolutely perfect in every way and offers salvation to every human being for free....gave up His life on the cross and was raised from the dead so we could have eternal life.....you and I will definitely be hated by the same people for our beliefs.
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Robert: we all know how to read, thanks. No need to go full-on picture book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEcl_WYW8d0
"Are you really gonna read me every meme you've ever seen on 4chan?"
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Robert: we all know how to read, thanks. No need to go full-on picture book.
"Are you really gonna read me every meme you've ever seen on 4chan?"
Never been to 4chan, but I've heard from education experts that when the people you are trying to explain simple things to don't understand them....sometimes pictures can help them see the reality of how things work.
Why critique me for posting memes.....when you should be debating whether the memes are true or not. You and I both know those memes are truth.....that is why you critique me for posting memes instead of debating the memes themselves.
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A-Boater....when the day comes that people stop mocking, ridiculing, and hating me for my beliefs......that is when I'll be upset and start to worry.
John 15:18
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me (Jesus) before it hated you.
When people hate Jesus who is absolutely perfect in every way and offers salvation to every human being for free....gave up His life on the cross and was raised from the dead so we could have eternal life.....you and I will definitely be hated by the same people for our beliefs.
Well said.
While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.(Word)
In the sower and seed story the majority rejected The Lord for one reason or other...
But a % did reach out in prayer and got saved !!!
Every true believer at one time was spiritually blind but as that Hank Williams song goes: I seen the Light.
Honestly by faith I believe many on this site will come to a real walk with the Good Lord.
Sooner or later...sooner the better. ;D
Never know when a person gets Covid 19 & kicks the bucket in 2-3 days time.
Imagine Jesus in His time of suffering "forgives and says they do not know what they are doing?"
Understanding and loving till His last breath.
So believers too must keep loving and forgiving...
Of course I pray to God in my own words but also in addition each night do pray the Lord's Prayer slowly.
That prayer is loaded with pts.
One is forgive me as I forgive others.....
Another is : deliver me from EVIL.
Evil of the demonic powers...from evil people...from earthquakes tornados floods so on...from sickness ..which includes cancers heart attack stroke ....and COVID 19 ....
Robert keep everyone on FWR in your prayers.
Happy to see FA post.
He has been vacant....when an active member doesn't post for a few days....ya get the thought gee hope he's ok...hope Covid 19 did not get him...
And Chris ...hope he's ok.
If you do not see my posts for two weeks I hope yous may be concerned on my safety... ;D
Now we have North Korea leader under much speculation....alive /dead/ heart attack/ or Covid 19 ...maybe he's 100% healthy but just decided to go underground for a few weeks ...
If he pops up soon and he's healthy guess he deserves a poo /cupcake stir stick too !!!
Put him on my list.
As long as he does not put me on his list :o
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i cant get enough of these videos. it's like a bad car accident, it hurts to look, but you just can't turn away. feel sorry for their children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkBseVTUow&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2o2BO1VNCDdqjCCoEM1UBQEx5h8PONcbxSThnvyd5odC0paNXSWU1-Dys
Half hour after this guy did the interview ....there was a "state alert " 300 patients escaped from mental/psychiatric hospital !!!!
Who are these folks.....
The guy who eats raw meat...raw eggs...911 was gov. planned....NASA did not land on moon....is extra nutty. He says ...cough in my face...he never washes his hands....
Hope he is not a short order cook ....or work in a food warehouse ...infact hope they lock this guy up at night. He's too nutty unbalanced to have any serious responsible job.
Maybe he can pick up needles & cig. butts and put in garbage can.
The only ones that made any sense were those republicans backing imperfect Pres. Donald Trump.
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Why critique me for posting memes.....when you should be debating whether the memes are true or not. You and I both know those memes are truth.....that is why you critique me for posting memes instead of debating the memes themselves.
Why would I respond to your pictures? Words are the currency on forums. That's why I come here instead of Instagram or Twitter or other social media sites. That's why I respect A-Boater, though I may not agree with him, because he takes the time to write his own thoughts in his own style. I want words. Words mean your brain is working and you've put some thought into what you're trying to say. I don't come here to see tired memes turned into low-effort shitposts.
(Check out the Wikipedia page for "shitpost" if you're not already familiar. It sits lower on the totem pole of trolling than "sealioning")
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Why would I respond to your pictures? Words are the currency on forums. That's why I come here instead of Instagram or Twitter or other social media sites. That's why I respect A-Boater, though I may not agree with him, because he takes the time to write his own thoughts in his own style. I want words. Words mean your brain is working and you've put some thought into what you're trying to say. I don't come here to see tired memes turned into low-effort shitposts.
(Check out the Wikipedia page for "shitpost" if you're not already familiar. It sits lower on the totem pole of trolling than "sealioning")
Blood_Orange do not forget a pic is worth 1000 words!
Not tech savvy enough to put memes /pics up but if I could think I'd be tempted to put up a few.
But thank you for the compliment.
I for one really like Robert_G posts. ( actually enjoy reading everyone's posts because it definitely is not sugar coated )
At the end of the day we all are entitled to our views...and we try to understand where each person is coming from.
Debating arguing discussing communicating is all good.
We try to get others to see our point of view...others try to have us see theirs.
Rodney and Nog said their pts quite well and at the end it ended well.
( they had their understanding of the minds on other page )
Oh ya before I forget ....in closing ya mention Blood_Orange that you "may" not agree with me....
Blood_Orange YOU agree with me. Look deeper in my eyes....as I swing this watch back and forth back and forth...your getting sleeeeeeepy sleeeeepy....
What's going on ...I'm getting tired myself.
Back fired. Zzzzzzzzzzz.
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Blood_Orange YOU agree with me. Look deeper in my eyes....as I swing this watch back and forth back and forth...your getting sleeeeeeepy sleeeeepy....
What's going on ...I'm getting tired myself.
Back fired. Zzzzzzzzzzz.
Literally LOL'd :P What a character!
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Rod: BC has done an excellent job. Full Credit to one Bonnie Henry.
Wish the fed's had listened to her back in January, but in their complete lack of wisdom, they chose the WHO instead.
That has proven to be a issue bordering on failure no matter how you look at it.
The graphics art designer is but rarely in the news any more.
The Tam woman has been wrong at every single juncture.
And your hero is so far out of his depth he has to keep in hiding before coming on stage (literally) to mumble a few platitudes each passing day.
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Nog
I find this odd. I like many that as the face of the Province's response to crisis has done an exemplary job to date.
But what exactly did she say back in January that was so different than what is being done today and exactly why is Dr Tam being so excoriated by some people on the Right other than the obvious race and sex dog whistle issues? It seems to me that some of the more extreme reactions from the right to public intellectuals are directed to those who are non-white, female or both.
When the first Covid-19 case in BC were announced Dr Henry was quoted as saying:
- This person is currently doing well and does not need hospitalization,...This person was not symptomatic on his flight.
- there is no evidence that the virus spreads when a person is asymptomatic.
- That's reassuring to us and that's certainly in line with other coronavirus infections that we've seen in the past like SARS and MERS
- the high amount of travel between Metro Vancouver and China, the presumptive positive case didn't come as a surprise. This first case is not unexpected to us...
- This does not change what we are doing in British Columbia … I would have been surprised if we did not have one or two case
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-confirms-province-s-first-presumptive-positive-case-of-new-coronavirus-1.4786706 (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-confirms-province-s-first-presumptive-positive-case-of-new-coronavirus-1.4786706)
That article goes on to ,ist the usual bromides about hand washing etc...much the same today.
Feb 4th a second patient traveling from the Wuhan area is announced as presumptive. Dr Henry says:
- officials are following the protocols recommended by the World Health Organization. That means waiting until people stop exhibiting symptoms, and testing nasal swabs for the virus two times 24 hours apart.
the health emergency is still "very much focused on China," which is making a massive effort to contain the disease.
- The efforts that are being put in place to restrict and try and prevent transmission in China are more extensive than we've seen, ever...
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/second-presumptive-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus-identified-in-b-c-1.4796875 (https://bc.ctvnews.ca/second-presumptive-case-of-wuhan-coronavirus-identified-in-b-c-1.4796875)
Feb 6th - third case announced in BC
Dr Henry:
- dismissed speculation that the B.C. woman could have been infected while her visitors were asymptomatic.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-has-identified-2-more-presumed-cases-of-novel-coronavirus-1.4800700
(https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-has-identified-2-more-presumed-cases-of-novel-coronavirus-1.4800700)
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But what exactly did she say back in January that was so different than what is being done today and exactly why is Dr Tam being so excoriated by some people on the Right other than the obvious race and sex dog whistle issues? It seems to me that some of the more extreme reactions from the right to public intellectuals are directed to those who are non-white, female or both.
You missed the part by Dr. Henry (who I happen to admire in her current role) wherein she advised the feds to start paying attention to pandemic protocols she established in her review of the SARS cases. In retrospect that was indeed a little later than January (my bad) but nonetheless DID occur. Convenient for you to somehow "miss", not so much for the feds when held to eventual account for that.
As for the WHO affiliated Dr. Tan:
No need to shut or restrict borders - won't make a difference - OOPS shut the borders please.
No necessity to reduce flights or screen those coming in on them - OOPS, we will now screen those coming in on flights AND reduce their overall numbers from international destinations.
Masks don't make any difference, do not bother - OOPS please wear your masks, they help prevent the spread.
Gloves don't make a difference, don't bother - OOPS when used properly gloves help, please wear them.
Asymptomatic people simply can not infect others - OOPS Asymptomatic people are perhaps the greatest infectors.
And on and on and on...
That's called incompetence Ralphie Ol' Chap.
Nothing to do with one's race nor sex (although even you will likely admit that is exactly why Trudeau chose her for that position).
Nope, competence is competence.
Lack thereof is lack thereof, regardless just what you have dangling (or not) and what pigment your skin tone may be.
It is difficult for many to interpret her actions as anything but...
Nice try though...
Nog
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Again many fallacies.
Immediately prior to being appointed to head the Public Health Agency of Canada, she was the Deputy head of same. While she was educated in the UK she did her residency in Alberta and her fellowship at UBC. Like you she first came to this country as part of her professional life and she has been considerably successful.
Her association with the World Health Organization is that she served on a variety of WHO committees related to her expertise.
The borders are not shut though travel has been restricted so that people can't cross for pleasure and non-essential business travel
Dr Tam has been interviewed recently and has been unequivocal that the virus was here before calls to restrict cross border travel became widespread and most of the spread has been internal or by Canadians who had traveled to countries that had serious outbreaks immediately after China such as Iran and Italy.
She has acknowledged that certain significant items were missed such as the degree to which people who are asymptomatic can spread the disease. Best advice is still that face masks provide little or no protection when worn by people who don't have the virus.
Of course on most of these things Bonnie Henry has said the same things as Dr Tam and everyone of the Chief Public Health Officers of the others Provinces and Territories but you Cherry pick one instance where Henry may have said something a bit different - and I have yet to see what Dr Henry exactly said.
No doubt the WHO has many misses regarding the pandemic but it's power to much of anything is very limited in it's mandate. Many countries, such as Russia that ignored WHO recommendations and imposed wider restrictions have none the less experienced wide spread outbreaks in any event.
I didn't even address her association with WHO or her accepting many of their recommendations. Do you expect Canada had better intelligence on the ground in China than the WHO?
My statements regarding the race and sex issue was more related to the accusations he was "reading PRC talking points" or the inflammatory questions by Conservative MP Drek Sloan asking if she worked for Canada or for China.
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TDS = Trudeau Derangement Syndrome
Come on Rod...wake up
Lets start with his resume that no one seemed to care about when they elected this incompetent fool.
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Next let's see what he does each day at work.
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or wait....depends if he is at work
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except when he's enjoying his weekend after telling the rest of us to stay home and not visit our families...but it's ok for him to visit his.
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Time to get back to renovating his house....oh wait....who's going to pay for that?
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But Trump is the real problem...let's talk about him
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Oh wait.....that was about JT...not Trump.....whoops
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The deflection didn't work Laddie.
Address the MANY times she screwed up royally individually of you would like.
Did not say I doubted her credentials or history, simply her competence (lack thereof as the case may be) in this particular situation.
Something she has done well is to indicate just that.
As for her "relationship" with the WHO - dig a little deeper son, you'll eventually figure that one out. ;)
Finally your backpedaling on the race / sex issue doesn't cut it either.
That, as written, was an attempt to apply partisan "blame" to the "right" in order to smear them as a whole. Blatantly obvious for anyone with a smattering of reading comprehension skills.
You simply have to get a little better at the latter before anyone is going to swallow that little pill Ralphie Me Lad...
Cheerio...
Nog
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TDS = Trudeau Derangement Syndrome
Now stooping to stealing and twisting from the opposition?
Poor spirit Old Man, REALLY poor that is.
Nog
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The deflection didn't work Laddie.
Address the MANY times she screwed up royally individually of you would like.
Did not say I doubted her credentials or history, simply her competence (lack thereof as the case may be) in this particular situation.
Something she has done well is to indicate just that.
As for her "relationship" with the WHO - dig a little deeper son, you'll eventually figure that one out. ;)
Finally your backpedaling on the race / sex issue doesn't cut it either.
That, as written, was an attempt to apply partisan "blame" to the "right" in order to smear them as a whole. Blatantly obvious for anyone with a smattering of reading comprehension skills.
You simply have to get a little better at the latter before anyone is going to swallow that little pill Ralphie Me Lad...
Cheerio...
Nog
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Now stooping to stealing and twisting from the opposition?
Poor spirit Old Man, REALLY poor that is.
Nog
hypocrisy - it's sauce sauce for the gander
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hypocrisy - it's sauce sauce for the gander
LOL! It's something Ralphie Me Boy, it's something.
Most excellent to see you stooping so low. Proving once again just who you are! (https://www.tnof.ca/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/watching.gif)
Cheers,
Nog
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turnabout is fair play.
If one were to check Dr Henry's background she was directly employed by WHO as part of their Polio eradication project in Pakistan and in Uganda during the Ebola outbreak.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/office-of-the-provincial-health-officer/biographies
Yet people make so much air about Tam's connection to WHO.
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If one were to check Dr Henry's background she was directly employed by WHO as part of their Polio eradication project in Pakistan and in Uganda during the Ebola outbreak.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/about-bc-s-health-care-system/office-of-the-provincial-health-officer/biographies
Yet people make so much air about Tam's connection to WHO.
And indeed Dr. Henry did "write the book" on dealing with pandemic situations following her efforts with the SARS outbreak.
The difference between the two is that Bonnie trusted her own judgement and instincts in this regard once she understood the magnitude of the problem. And Tam bought into the WHO propaganda (while understanding the limitations and intentional misdirection from China) lock, stock and barrel - providing erroneous advice and information on multiple occasions.
Huge difference. And why BC is where it is today while the easterners who followed Tam, Trudeau and the graphics arts designer are on a significantly different path...
Cheers,
Nog
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IN I believe not too many weeks ago you dismissed BC's apparent success in handling the pandemic outbreak as due to coincidence and luck and ot so much to Dr Henry's expertise. If you've had a sudden change of heart maybe you can explain why?
I am not too sure where you get the claim she 'wrote the book' on pandemics following SARS? She was a an associate with Toronto Public health at the time and one of a number of Public Health Drs that dealt with the SARS outbreak. Perhaps from an interview published Jan 31st?
In her own words:
" [I was] responsible mostly for communicable diseases and vaccine programs for one quarter of Toronto. I also had oversight and provided medical support for a number of the sexual-health clinics Toronto ran."
At the time she used her authority to close a hospital where some of the first SARS victims were patients and again in her own words
" We realized it was being transmitted. Patients and health-care workers were incubating this disease and transmitting it to others. So, essentially, I closed the hospital. I ordered no more admissions, and we moved everyone home we could and put them in isolation."
She goes on to say that at the time of the SARS outbreak China was very mum on what was happening unlike what has taken place during the Covid-19 outbreak. She does not credit this to the good offices of the PRC government.
You can read about it here: https://www.tvo.org/article/lessons-from-sars-part-3-the-public-health-officer
(https://www.tvo.org/article/lessons-from-sars-part-3-the-public-health-officer)
The claim that she criticized the Federal Public Health in Feb or in any month I can't find any documentation on that either and not in this specific interview which now everyone here can read if they care too.
Have a good afternoon
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Keep digging Ol' Chap.
You may eventually discover what many of us know already...
Then again, perhaps not.
In your particular case, I don't much care.
Dr. Henry very much did have the luxury of coincidence and geography on her side.
But she used that to OUR advantage, played the game right, and as a consequence we are in a somewhat enviable position.
With Tam there is more liberal political agenda and less scientific data influencing her actions.
Most who don't wear your particular type pf partisan blinders get that. You... likely not.
I don't much care in your particular case once again.
Have an great afternoon yourself.
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Why would I respond to your pictures? Words are the currency on forums. That's why I come here instead of Instagram or Twitter or other social media sites. That's why I respect A-Boater, though I may not agree with him, because he takes the time to write his own thoughts in his own style. I want words. Words mean your brain is working and you've put some thought into what you're trying to say. I don't come here to see tired memes turned into low-effort shitposts.
(Check out the Wikipedia page for "shitpost" if you're not already familiar. It sits lower on the totem pole of trolling than "sealioning")
You just keep doing 180s. First you didn't like my words, now you don't like my memes....What you really don't like is the truth.....period...doesn't matter how it's brought to you.
Those were the first memes I've posted here in years....and I've tried 'words' with you.
And even so....you can fact check those memes I posted and they are all true (well the Simpson's one might be a bit much...but still true), but it doesn't matter with you.
It's so sad that people like yourself won't acknowledge the truth no matter how much factual evidence is presented to them. That's why lefties like yourself are called indoctrinated sheeple. For most of them...they're past the point of no return. There could be certain death coming your way, and if I warned you....you still wouldn't listen. It's so sad to see someone fallen that far.
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TDS = Trudeau Derangement Syndrome
Sorry buddy. Similar to what I said to Blood Orange.
It's not Derangement Syndrome when its the truth that can be accurately fact checked.....even you know that.
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Sorry buddy. Similar to what I said to Blood Orange.
It's not Derangement Syndrome when its the truth that can be accurately fact checked.....even you know that.
i think it would great if you could supply some facts for all us simple sheep. dont tell us to look them up. you brought it to the table now prove it.
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TDS = Trudeau Derangement Syndrome
lol
love it
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i think it would great if you could supply some facts for all us simple sheep. dont tell us to look them up. you brought it to the table now prove it.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you the sky was blue. You already know those memes are truth. Stop wasting my time.
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You wouldn't believe me if I told you the sky was blue. You already know those memes are truth. Stop wasting my time.
actually i would believe you if you told me the sky was blue because that is a fact. what i dont believe is some stupid memes with no facts to back them up. as far as i am concern you are wasting your own time voluntarily.
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Unfortunately, Canada completely coupled its response to COVID-19 to what the WHO was saying, even though their own experts had warned against that.
https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeaus-feds-ignored-their-own-advice-as-covid-hit-canada/wcm/6cda7645-9e0e-4128-a607-f72709fb8156
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It's an opinion piece and the report referenced came out of what is now Tam's office. Lilley doesn't even bother to go to any factual reporting where Tam's office has erred.
No one, not you for example, bother to mention direct authority over public health response lies with the Provinces and their local and Regional Health authorities not with the Federal Government
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actually i would believe you if you told me the sky was blue because that is a fact. what i dont believe is some stupid memes with no facts to back them up. as far as i am concern you are wasting your own time voluntarily.
It's not blue today. Just kind of grey.
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Unfortunately, Canada completely coupled its response to COVID-19 to what the WHO was saying, even though their own experts had warned against that.
https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeaus-feds-ignored-their-own-advice-as-covid-hit-canada/wcm/6cda7645-9e0e-4128-a607-f72709fb8156
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Lilley
"Lilley is a conservative commentator through his writings and television appearances. He has discussed topics such as the perceived shortcomings of elected governments, social conservatism, government spending and use of tax revenue, and the culture of political correctness. Lilley is a regular critic of the CBC, and has published a book criticizing that organization's mandate and activities"
i am not taking away from his work, nor am i denying this article. just though people should know his back ground and make their own decisions.
robert posted nothing of covid 19 in his memes and i am not denying governments around the world handled this perfectly. we have weathered it better than our southern neoghbors and thats all we really have to compare it too geographically. trudeau gave people $2000 a month to people that lost their jobs to this virus. trump gave a one time payment of $1200. wtf is $1200 going to do you our renting in seattle and you have been forced to stay home for 3 months.
my work hours have been reduced 10% but now as of yesterday the government is helping pick up the tab and we are now back to full time.
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It's not blue today. Just kind of grey.
my garden would be a lot happier if it was blue
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actually i would believe you if you told me the sky was blue because that is a fact. what i dont believe is some stupid memes with no facts to back them up. as far as i am concern you are wasting your own time voluntarily.
I don't even know why I'm responding to you.
Meme 1. Fact. The JT resume has been accurately fact checked. That is indeed his resume....the whole thing
Meme 2. Educated Opinion based on observation. Anyone with a brain knows he's the most incompetent treasonous PM to ever lead Canada.
Meme 3. Fact. Everyone knows he won't leave his house. He has also been trying to limit parliament as much as possible so he can stay there. He is a coward.
Meme 4. Fact. No one in their right mind would say that JT meeting his family for Easter is false news. He did it....and everyone knows he did it. He admitted it on the morning conference with no apology for being a hypocrite.
Meme 5. Fact. He is renovating his house with taxpayers money. He's not even denying it when asked. Why won't you believe what even JT has said live on TV what he is doing?
Meme 6. Fact. Although the progressive left has watered it down to make it seem less evil than what it actually is....but nonetheless....he has done all those things. The morning news conferences have seen him questioned on everyone of those things. He denied NONE of them. Carbon Tax went up 50% on April 1st. No other world leader has raised taxes during this pandemic.
Get your head out of the sand and wake up. It's because of clueless people like you, that we have people like him leading this country.
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Your avatar says all that needs to be said: "I don't even own a fishing rod. I'm just a troll"
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Your avatar says all that needs to be said: "I don't even own a fishing rod. I'm just a troll"
It does say that,
but I actually own about 25 or so rod/reel combos.
Would you like to buy my Bar Fishing equipment for cheap. It has an inch of dust on it.
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lol... angry, white, middle aged male, triggered. (edit) Fact
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lol... angry, white, middle aged male, triggered.
Right back at you.
Can't dispute facts, so you change over to personal attacks. Typical.
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Oh no, the Godly Robert feels attacked because he doesn't attack at all, straight to heaven after all the good deeds right? ;)
Hold on, editing my previous post.
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State of emergency extended for two more weeks.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6882974/premier-john-horgan-coronavirus-state-of-emergency/
Great to see what New Zealand has done through good leadership though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXbUQw6ea6M
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It's an opinion piece and the report referenced came out of what is now Tam's office. Lilley doesn't even bother to go to any factual reporting where Tam's office has erred.
Typical deflection from you Ralphie Ol' Chapped Lips.
Can't formally attack the message with facts, attack the messenger.
Kind of a boring old tactic, but when one considers just whom it is coming from, not even slightly surprising...
Have a nice eve!
Nog
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It's a message without content, just empty opinion - like your original post. ;D
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I don't even know why I'm responding to you.
Meme 1. Fact. The JT resume has been accurately fact checked. That is indeed his resume....the whole thing
that's not a resume ... so much for facts.
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It's a message without content, just empty opinion - like your original post. ;D
Or like your head ;)
Cheers
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I thought ralph did a good job of framing the political perspective of the article writer. Almost all forms of public communication has an agenda or purpose. Really what what have here are some people who agree politically. Virtually every political party or politician has has issues. Most of us find some sort of reconciliation between our needs, our values, and how good or bad we perceive the person or party to be. ..we vote accordingly.
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Or like your head ;)
Cheers
I don't have a problem in my head, how about you?
I also love a Gershwin tune!
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that's not a resume ... so much for facts.
Really Ralph??
That may not be an actual printed resume off of JT's computer, but you know as well as I do, that is what his work experience is....nothing less nothing more.
You just love to avoid the big picture and spew the topic with useless details when you know you're wrong.
Another typical tactic of the progressive left....not one that works or that anyone pays attention too.....but still a typical tactic they use.
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Really Ralph??
That may not be an actual printed resume ...
Enough said - it's not.
You know RG 20+ years ago I defended you when someone else online called you stupid. I thought despite what you wrote you were probably quite smart.
I have to say I admire your tenacity all these years in trying to prove me wrong .
Still rooting for yah!
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I don't even know why I'm responding to you.
Meme 1. Fact. The JT resume has been accurately fact checked. That is indeed his resume....the whole thing
Meme 2. Educated Opinion based on observation. Anyone with a brain knows he's the most incompetent treasonous PM to ever lead Canada.
Meme 3. Fact. Everyone knows he won't leave his house. He has also been trying to limit parliament as much as possible so he can stay there. He is a coward.
Meme 4. Fact. No one in their right mind would say that JT meeting his family for Easter is false news. He did it....and everyone knows he did it. He admitted it on the morning conference with no apology for being a hypocrite.
Meme 5. Fact. He is renovating his house with taxpayers money. He's not even denying it when asked. Why won't you believe what even JT has said live on TV what he is doing?
Meme 6. Fact. Although the progressive left has watered it down to make it seem less evil than what it actually is....but nonetheless....he has done all those things. The morning news conferences have seen him questioned on everyone of those things. He denied NONE of them. Carbon Tax went up 50% on April 1st. No other world leader has raised taxes during this pandemic.
Get your head out of the sand and wake up. It's because of clueless people like you, that we have people like him leading this country.
meme #1 this is a resume
Trudeau has a bachelor of arts degree in literature from McGill University and a bachelor of education degree from the University of British Columbia. In his first year at McGill, Trudeau became acquainted with his future Principal Secretary Gerald Butts, through their mutual friend, Jonathan Ablett.[78] Butts invited Trudeau to join the McGill Debating Union.[79] They bonded while driving back to Montreal after a debate tournament at Princeton University[78] in which the Princeton team included Ted Cruz, a U.S. Senator, who was a candidate for the U.S. Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2016.[80] After graduation, Trudeau stayed in Vancouver where he became a substitute teacher at local schools and worked permanently as a French and math teacher at the private West Point Grey Academy. He became a roommate at the Douglas Lodge[81] with fellow West Point Grey Academy faculty member and friend Christopher Ingvaldson.[78][82] From 2002 to 2004, he studied engineering at the École Polytechnique de Montréal, a part of the Université de Montréal.[83] He started a master's degree in environmental geography at McGill, but withdrew from the program to seek public office among other reasons.[84]
meme # 2 opinion. that was easy
meme # 3 people have been told to work from home if possible. i am sure hes not the only mp who feels this way.
meme # 4 yes that is ture, can someone really blame him for wanting to see his young children in 3 weeks. i sure dont. if you want to be mad about that, its up to the individual.
meme # 5 the house or houses in need of renovation he does not own.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harrington-lake-renovations-ncc-1.5535502
A 2017 audit found the prime minister's official residences – both 24 Sussex Drive and Harrington Lake – are in "critical" condition. The NCC, the crown corporation responsible for the federal government's official residences, said it required a one-time injection of $83 million over 10 years to address maintenance issues that have been deferred for several years.
meme # 6 that is true. the carbon tax did go up as april 1.
see thats not to hard.
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I thought we were talking about covid shutting down fishing opportunities. If people are going off topic, I will talk about Tiger King. I am feeling that things will open up after May long, at least a little bit. It’s not like we forming a scrum in rugby.
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meme #1 this is a resume
Trudeau has a bachelor of arts degree in literature from McGill University and a bachelor of education degree from the University of British Columbia. In his first year at McGill, Trudeau became acquainted with his future Principal Secretary Gerald Butts, through their mutual friend, Jonathan Ablett.[78] Butts invited Trudeau to join the McGill Debating Union.[79] They bonded while driving back to Montreal after a debate tournament at Princeton University[78] in which the Princeton team included Ted Cruz, a U.S. Senator, who was a candidate for the U.S. Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2016.[80] After graduation, Trudeau stayed in Vancouver where he became a substitute teacher at local schools and worked permanently as a French and math teacher at the private West Point Grey Academy. He became a roommate at the Douglas Lodge[81] with fellow West Point Grey Academy faculty member and friend Christopher Ingvaldson.[78][82] From 2002 to 2004, he studied engineering at the École Polytechnique de Montréal, a part of the Université de Montréal.[83] He started a master's degree in environmental geography at McGill, but withdrew from the program to seek public office among other reasons.[84]
Not enough to be PM....not even close...and you didn't add anything that would be considered work experience to qualify him as PM.
meme # 3 people have been told to work from home if possible. i am sure hes not the only mp who feels this way.
He's the PM in a freaking global pandemic....He doesn't get that luxury.....are you for real?
meme # 4 yes that is ture, can someone really blame him for wanting to see his young children in 3 weeks. i sure dont. if you want to be mad about that, its up to the individual.
Because he told everyone else NOT to. He's a hypocrite. Are you seriously that blind that you can't see a problem with this situation? Many polls were taken and the majority of Canadians were very upset that he made a separate set of rules for himself.
meme # 5 the house or houses in need of renovation he does not own.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harrington-lake-renovations-ncc-1.5535502
A 2017 audit found the prime minister's official residences – both 24 Sussex Drive and Harrington Lake – are in "critical" condition. The NCC, the crown corporation responsible for the federal government's official residences, said it required a one-time injection of $83 million over 10 years to address maintenance issues that have been deferred for several years.
Most contracting experts have said Sussex should be bulldozed. 83 million to renovate is a waste of taxpayers money. As for his residence, why should the PM be living in a house that needs millions in renos? Just because he is PM doesn't entitle him to live in a 10 million dollar + home that he didn't pay for.
meme # 6 that is true. the carbon tax did go up as april 1.
And the fact that he's raising taxes and no other country in the world is during this pandemic doesn't bother you? Again....He's the worst PM EVER.
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Down in Washington our stay-at-home order is going to be extended past May 4, but we don't know how long yet. But the good news is that almost all fishing is scheduled to reopen on May 5, and I have never been more ready for spring trout and kokanee. I bought a pontoon boat that I'm itching to use for the first time - no more worrying about crowded beaches and docks. I'll see if I can properly troll for kokanee with just my oars, if not, I've already scoped out an electric trolling motor and battery and even a small downrigger I can mount on the pontoon.
I've got all the gear I need and then some, but I feel bad for the tackle shops that can't open even though fishing will be open. People will have no choice but to buy online or go to Wal-mart or Fred Meyer, which are open because they sell groceries and are therefore "essential". I know our local tackle shops have been struggling for years now with the failed runs and fishing closures that have become more common - this is just another blow they don't need. I really hope they can survive this.
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Not enough to be PM....not even close...and you didn't add anything that would be considered work experience to qualify him as PM.
Enough to be a 2 term prime minister. What experience does Andrew Scheer have to be PM ? That's a rhetorical question because he's moving out from Stornaway in the next few months.
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Down in Washington our stay-at-home order is going to be extended past May 4, but we don't know how long yet. But the good news is that almost all fishing is scheduled to reopen on May 5, and I have never been more ready for spring trout and kokanee. I bought a pontoon boat that I'm itching to use for the first time - no more worrying about crowded beaches and docks. I'll see if I can properly troll for kokanee with just my oars, if not, I've already scoped out an electric trolling motor and battery and even a small downrigger I can mount on the pontoon.
I've got all the gear I need and then some, but I feel bad for the tackle shops that can't open even though fishing will be open. People will have no choice but to buy online or go to Wal-mart or Fred Meyer, which are open because they sell groceries and are therefore "essential". I know our local tackle shops have been struggling for years now with the failed runs and fishing closures that have become more common - this is just another blow they don't need. I really hope they can survive this.
I think Dave’s in Lynden is opening soon
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Not enough to be PM....not even close...and you didn't add anything that would be considered work experience to qualify him as PM.
He's the PM in a freaking global pandemic....He doesn't get that luxury.....are you for real?
Because he told everyone else NOT to. He's a hypocrite. Are you seriously that blind that you can't see a problem with this situation? Many polls were taken and the majority of Canadians were very upset that he made a separate set of rules for himself.
Most contracting experts have said Sussex should be bulldozed. 83 million to renovate is a waste of taxpayers money. As for his residence, why should the PM be living in a house that needs millions in renos? Just because he is PM doesn't entitle him to live in a 10 million dollar + home that he didn't pay for.
And the fact that he's raising taxes and no other country in the world is during this pandemic doesn't bother you? Again....He's the worst PM EVER.
cool story bro
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thats great its opening again. its important to be able to enjoy nature. helps heal us.
i haven't fished much in the past few weeks. been one massive spring clean of the house for me, that and planting vegetables in the garden. im getting the itch to do some indicator fishing and check a few rivers out for some summers.
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thats great its opening again. its important to be able to enjoy nature. helps heal us.
i haven't fished much in the past few weeks. been one massive spring clean of the house for me, that and planting vegetables in the garden. im getting the itch to do some indicator fishing and check a few rivers out for some summers.
Went to the Vedder on Monday. No fish for me but great to be out again. Forgot about the madness for Half a day.
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thats great its opening again. its important to be able to enjoy nature. helps heal us.
i haven't fished much in the past few weeks. been one massive spring clean of the house for me, that and planting vegetables in the garden. im getting the itch to do some indicator fishing and check a few rivers out for some summers.
Gardening has been my other escape, but there isn't much happening now until we get some sun. I guess my spinach is almost ready to harvest, but that'll cook down to 3 bites. I do love the time of year when I can make a whole dinner with what I have caught and grown.
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Down in Washington our stay-at-home order is going to be extended past May 4, but we don't know how long yet. But the good news is that almost all fishing is scheduled to reopen on May 5, and I have never been more ready for spring trout and kokanee. I bought a pontoon boat that I'm itching to use for the first time - no more worrying about crowded beaches and docks. I'll see if I can properly troll for kokanee with just my oars, if not, I've already scoped out an electric trolling motor and battery and even a small downrigger I can mount on the pontoon.
I've got all the gear I need and then some, but I feel bad for the tackle shops that can't open even though fishing will be open. People will have no choice but to buy online or go to Wal-mart or Fred Meyer, which are open because they sell groceries and are therefore "essential". I know our local tackle shops have been struggling for years now with the failed runs and fishing closures that have become more common - this is just another blow they don't need. I really hope they can survive this.
CohoJake tried to get this trend back on track......I hear a train whistle...tied him to the tracks.
Well hmm hmm .. On a serious note..Covid 19 has affected all of us badly...but there's that % are making $$$ because of this virus. Overtime wkrs ...food warehouses ...truckers...companies making masks...
Did hear that some reports say the death numbers could be 2x what is being reported in the USA !!!
What is it now? 60,000 .
So that would make it 120,000 and change.....
Yes CohoJake this is the best time of year ...a Spring/coming summer minus Covid 19 though.
Had to mow the grass often as alittle shower / sun shower/ sun / shower/sun....grass grows 5x faster not to mention the dandelion flowers/weeds....eye of the beholder. :)
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Most contracting experts have said Sussex should be bulldozed. 83 million to renovate is a waste of taxpayers money. As for his residence, why should the PM be living in a house that needs millions in renos? Just because he is PM doesn't entitle him to live in a 10 million dollar + home that he didn't pay for.
Neither residence is his house. Both properties belong to the Federal Government as do the following residences; Stornoway, Rideau Hall (GG) The Farm (Speaker of the House). I don't know if you realize that the White House is not owned by President Trump.
There may be a reason for all this nonsense getting on here - including the Dr Tam smear campaign.
That is current polls indicate the federal Conservatives have fallen below 30% in opinion polls and the Liberal are well above 38.5%. That put Trudeau in range or re-election with a comfortable majority if the polls stay much the same up until the next election. The Cons may be desperate to create an apparent scandal to try to halt their slide in popularity.
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Do you like the possibility that the liberals have no official opposition. I agree liberals looking good but the thought of having an unchecked liberal party is not very appealing to me.
They say money can’t buy happiness but 250 billion is certainly helping.
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There is an official opposition and I think Trudeau's daily pep talks are excessive. Scheer has been able to get on TV once he returned to Ottawa & the House is sitting again though on a reduced basis.
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Been singing praise songs all afternoon to the good Lord. I will not be ashamed of a His Name because The Lord is the only way to salvation.
Sometimes I get the desire to sin but I know sin looks good it feels good it's tempting to the eyes but it bites ya in the butt.....
Oh are we on the air now.....ok folks:
There is no way the polls will stay the same till the next election.
Scheer will no longer be leader of the PC party.
The new leader more than likely be in Pride Parades ...and say ladies should be free to decide on abortion or not...in other words the right may come to the centre alittle.
This should get them more of the Canadians vote.
No landslide win for Liberals ...honeymoon is over..Liberals lost seats...but still got in not because of Trudeau but because of a Canadians dislike of Scheer.
Mind you I like Scheer more than Trudeau and like Pres. D Trump 100 fold more than Biden.
Biden is the blind following the blind...bet Obama may even now phone him and tell him what to say and do. Well he may suggest things but Biden will take them like orders from the past chief.
Trump will win anyways.
So it's goodbye Trudeau for a more to centre PC leader....
Pres. D Trump will win another term.
As for Covid 19 ....please do not become complacent....wash hands...keep distance...gargle with strong germ killer mouthwash ( not disinfectant cleaners ...that's for surfaces walls door handles sinks ...heard someone recommend for body ..no no no )---------------If you have time find yourself a long 2 ft blank white paper.
Now put it on a table. Any table will do ..as long as the table is flat ...not wavy or holes in table.
Just maybe you have a pet elephant and he/she sat on table and bent it a little ...
Or if your family is kinda on the wild side maybe bullet holes were made at some pt and time ...thus holes in table.
Now on that paper draw a map of Canada....general map...not too fancy.
Now grab a blue ink pen and put 53,000 dots all over from the west coast prairies eastern and far eastern shores .....
Now after you finish putting 53,000 blue dots....try to put more % of dots east of Winnipeg.
Now get a red ink pen and put 3100 red dots on the paper....more % east of Winnipeg.
You now have a picture in front of you of 53,000 Covid infections ....and 3100 deaths.
Pin this paper by your main exit door as ya go out to grocery job exercising fishing locally ...
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. don't know if you realize that the White House is not owned by President Trump.
You are confused. The White House is a government building. 100s of staff 100s of security. Trump is NEVER alone in the White House. No president has ever lived there with only their family.
Where Trudeau is living is for him privately. No government business happens in that house...yes he may have some light 'personal' staff....but there is no 'government' staff living or even working there.
At 8:45 every morning, he heads back in there and who knows what he does....nobody knows.
Sorry, but you can't compare where Trudeau lives to the White House.....not even remotely the same thing.
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There is an official opposition and I think Trudeau's daily pep talks are excessive. Scheer has been able to get on TV once he returned to Ottawa & the House is sitting again though on a reduced basis.
I was talking about your gleeful liberal majority
Sadly the conservatives seem to be more concerned with trying to make trumps base happy then trying to take to party left and capturing some of the liberal base.
You are correct the cons poss little threat at the moment and thins coming from someone who bought a con membership to try to make sure they aren’t foolish enough to vote for otool and not McKay
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You are confused. The White House is a government building. 100s of staff 100s of security. Trump is NEVER alone in the White House. No president has ever lived there with only their family.
Where Trudeau is living is for him privately. No government business happens in that house...yes he may have some light 'personal' staff....but there is no 'government' staff living or even working there.
At 8:45 every morning, he heads back in there and who knows what he does....nobody knows.
Sorry, but you can't compare where Trudeau lives to the White House.....not even remotely the same thing.
No I am not confused. Your are confused. Sussex is also a government building.
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I was talking about your gleeful liberal majority
Sadly the conservatives seem to be more concerned with trying to make trumps base happy then trying to take to party left and capturing some of the liberal base.
You are correct the cons poss little threat at the moment and thins coming from someone who bought a con membership to try to make sure they aren’t foolish enough to vote for otool and not McKay
I am not a "Liberal" Gleeful or otherwise. I did not vote for JT, or any of the other Liberal Leaders or PMs going back 30+ years. Trumps base is in the US though he has many admirers here who are too chicken to move there (or back there).
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At 8:45 every morning, he heads back in there and who knows what he does....nobody knows.
He's working from home, tough concept to understand I suppose.
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Do you like the possibility that the liberals have no official opposition. I agree liberals looking good but the thought of having an unchecked liberal party is not very appealing to me.
They say money can’t buy happiness but 250 billion is certainly helping.
no, majorities are not a good thing. parties need to compromise for a healthy democracy. discussions need to take place.
I was talking about your gleeful liberal majority
Sadly the conservatives seem to be more concerned with trying to make trumps base happy then trying to take to party left and capturing some of the liberal base.
You are correct the cons poss little threat at the moment and thins coming from someone who bought a con membership to try to make sure they aren’t foolish enough to vote for otool and not McKay
if that is the goal of the conservative party than they are finished. trumps base is smaller than we think, they just like to make lots of noise. conservatives and republicans need to understand that society is moving left as you stated. not saying they cant win again just they need to re-event them selves especially in canada. even the billionaire class sees this now. to bad it took an epidemic to teach them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uognCnQpr3A
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on a side note, jesse ventura is testing the waters for a bid for the green party nomination. i like his stance on saying “I’m an independent. I’m not a Democrat or a Republican because I know they’re not the solution.” and hes right.
maybe for the first debate they can hold it in a wrestling ring with vince mcmahon, trump, ventura and biden. poor biden going to get messed up lol. imagine the ratings it would get lol.
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on a side note, jesse ventura is testing the waters for a bid for the green party nomination. i like his stance on saying “I’m an independent. I’m not a Democrat or a Republican because I know they’re not the solution.” and hes right.
maybe for the first debate they can hold it in a wrestling ring with vince mcmahon, trump, ventura and biden. poor biden going to get messed up lol. imagine the ratings it would get lol.
Jesse Ventura is more kooky than Trump.
( ok admitting Trump has a kooky side / but improving rapidly...but his over all decisions has made him a Superstar...enlightened judge in a Supreme Ct. abortion is murder prayer allowed in school / not banned..oh not forced on any student but for ones that want to "pray wherever you want to as long you are not disturbing the peace...oh prayer will disturb the demons ...recognizes Isreal as a nation,( God of the Bible says that land is the Jews,( Arabs shoot themselves in the foot...if they decided to be peaceful they would all be employed by Jewish companies with good wages/benifits )
But you yourself have to be enlightened to see that Pres. Trump has made great decisions.
Mind you ..do you believe there is a God /devil?
If you do not then your more than likely think the democrats are the way to go.
There's the way I see it.
As for Covid 19 ....more and more poultry / slaughter houses are having to be shut down temporary in the USA ( we all heard of the Canada shut downs )
Volkswagon in Germany is making cars again by strict working environment. Distancing...and where two wkrs are closer there's plastic sheilds ...masks hand wash stations ...
These poultry / beef places are going to have to get strict working rules set up.
Me you want beef and chicken.
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No I am not confused. Your are confused. Sussex is also a government building.
What are you talking about? If you read my post, I said where JT LIVES....not Sussex.
JT has never lived at Sussex. He lives at Rideau Cottage like he always has.
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Trudeau does not own Rideau Cottage... ::)
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Trudeau does not own Rideau Cottage... ::)
Who cares? If you could live in a place like that for as long as you wanted on tax payers dime, would you care who the deed was signed to?
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It seems there's a lot of political analysts on this board critiquing the actions of our Prime Minister. Judgement made based on hindsight and conjecture. I think anyone, regardless of party would have made decisions considered questionable and unpopular with certain groups. With so much demand for monetary and medical aid in all sectors, it's almost impossible to prioritize the level of need.
I consider myself a Conservative, but respect the fact he dealt with the immediate needs of the working class in a timely manner. Some may argue he did it for political gain and some may say he was slow or procrastinated in reacting to certain agendas, but in reality he was faced with an "unknown" which has all world leaders scrambling.
Cut the guy some slack and don't forget he's also a husband and father who's own wife got sick with the virus, while trying to lead a nation.
Who cares? If you could live in a place like that for as long as you wanted on tax payers dime, would you care who the deed was signed to?
...and a lot of homeless people most with addiction problems are being put up in hotels...on who's dime?
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Well said blaydRnr.
I didn't vote for JT the first time but did the 2nd time because I just couldn't vote for Scheer. Better to vote for the devil you know than the devil you don't I guess.
I have no problem with how JT has handled this pandemic. Flaws for sure but overall happy compared to other countries. He has being emotional more than a few times if you watch his live addresses. I know he's worried about this pandemic and wants to ensure it is well under control before moving forward with the economy.
He has commented on a couple of occasions that he knows people will be coming after him when this is all over about the money being spent.
He did say yesterday he will be following the medical experts advise on when and how to move forward and honestly isn't that the way it should be?
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What are you talking about? If you read my post, I said where JT LIVES....not Sussex.
JT has never lived at Sussex. He lives at Rideau Cottage like he always has.
See I was right you are smart!
Of course this house is neither:
(https://i.imgur.com/TceKw3s.jpg)
It's the Lake Cottage where he and his family were over Easter. That's not his house either. Nor are the renovations being done at his direction. It's done by the National Capital Commission. Nor that house the Official Residence of the Prime Minister. That's 24 Sussex which, because the Harper family refused to move out for years to allow repairs is now all but derelict. As a result of it's condition the Trudeau family has been residing at Rideau Cottage.
So to review contrary to what your "fact checked" meme says that is not his house nor is he pumping 8.5 million dollars into it while the rest of Canadians suffer the effects of the pandemic. Across most of Canada Residential construction and renovations are considered essential and is happening at 3 residences on my block.
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...and a lot of homeless people most with addiction problems are being put up in hotels...on who's dime?
Don't even get me started on this. Another can of worms that you don't want to open with me. You already know my position on this.
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See I was right you are smart!
Who do you know has the option to live in 3 different multi million dollar homes on the tax payer dime?
The lake cottage is no different. Only his family his living there with maybe some personal staff. He can use it at his disposal for recreation or whatever he wants. I'd love to have someone else buy me that kind of luxury
You just don't get it.
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Who do you know has the option to live in 3 different multi million dollar homes on the tax payer dime?
The lake cottage is no different. Only his family his living there with maybe some personal staff. He can use it at his disposal for recreation or whatever he wants. I'd love to have someone else buy me that kind of luxury
You just don't get it.
I think I get it. Ralph might not, but I do.
The Prime Minister has a primary residence (currently Rideau cottage) and a vacation home (Harrington Lake). Both are publically funded. That is no different than many, if not all, of the G-7 leaders who have both publically funded residences and vacation home. It's a perk of the job, and I don't begrudge it. Probably cheaper in the long run than paying for new security arrangements for the homes of every new PM
Many other employers offer their senior leaders housing allowances. Heck even some church congregations provide their minister a parsonage.
Many employers do it. Nice work if you can get it.
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Don't even get me started on this. Another can of worms that you don't want to open with me. You already know my position on this.
Dude I lived this life...I know from first hand experience the difference between homelessness of the poor and homelessness of an addiction. I've been on that side of the fence, so unless you've lived it...don't bother.
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Dude I lived this life...I know from first hand experience the difference between homelessness of the poor and homelessness of an addiction. I've been on that side of the fence, so unless you've lived it...don't bother.
I do know this
We don't have a homeless problem.
We have a drug addiction and mental health problem.
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I think I get it. Ralph might not, but I do.
The Prime Minister has a primary residence (currently Rideau cottage) and a vacation home (Harrington Lake). Both are publically funded. That is no different than many, if not all, of the G-7 leaders who have both publically funded residences and vacation home. It's a perk of the job, and I don't begrudge it. Probably cheaper in the long run than paying for new security arrangements for the homes of every new PM
Many other employers offer their senior leaders housing allowances. Heck even some church congregations provide their minister a parsonage.
Many employers do it. Nice work if you can get it.
You work for I know who. I worked for the same Public employer. I knew many people whose apartment or condo in the Capital was paid for with public funds and they had a house in another community - possibly that was rented out. They also got their travel expenses back and forth fully paid. Do you get that? What do you get?
Ministers of a Church etc get an extra $10,000 ( may be more now) tax exemption over what the average tax payer gets.
Trudeau does not have 3 mansions he can live in. Sussex is all but unlivable and needs close $100 million in renovations. He chose to live in Rideau Cottage - which is smaller. The Lake Cottage has always long been a summer residence for the PM. All these residences are used for state functions - they are not truly private.
What publicly owned building Trudeau can live in is irrelevant to the question was the particular meme, or any of them 'fact checked.'
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I think I get it. Ralph might not, but I do.
The was sarcasm and a little poke at RG’s comments
Do you get that? What do you get?
A gentleman doesn’t kiss and tell but I sure as heck don’t get a cottage AND a lake house. 😀
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Most of you heard of ultraviolet light killing viruses. This looks promising. If it works these lights will be I n public buildings on transit systems ,schools, malls ,airports planes ,work places ,in our homes.....within minutes the light kills viruses.
Columbia Univ. has a nice article:
Could a new ultraviolet technology fight the spread of Coronavirus ?
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https://youtu.be/1cNKRcvJcWI
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The was sarcasm and a little poke at RG’s comments
A gentleman doesn’t kiss and tell but I sure as heck don’t get a cottage AND a lake house. 😀
LOL. My apologies. ;D
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Most of you heard of ultraviolet light killing viruses...
One good TDS calls for another
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/840/393/5ab.jpg)
... no this has not been fact checked! Do not try this at home on yourself or friends or family.
Trump reportedly said April 23rd at a WH briefing:
"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous -- whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light -- and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
He also added:
"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/trumps-inject-disinfectant-remarks
Worth noting that strong UV light can cause sunburns if skin is exposed for more than a brief period of time.
BTW AB the disinfectant sterilizing qualities of UV light have long been known and put into use. The most powerful source of UV light is sunlight.
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Ralph read article ..it's not long...
Your right ultraviolet light can be harmful to the human body BUT in the testing they are using just one part of the UV light. They claim does no harm to our eyes or cells but will kill viruses !!!
If they find it kills Covid 19 ..they are thinking of having these lights made and put in every building / plane , train ,bus , etc....our house too.
Testing testing testing...
The good part it kills flu cold bugs etc so that spread will be decreased.
Interesting people focus on the top of the iceberg...but do not see the 90 % huge ice under the water.
Pres Trump has done so many great decisions ( under the water iceberg. ) but the Joe Blows only concentrate on his few imperfections ;D
Well the poor guy has been under attack everyday since he got in office.
Why ??? Because when Trump won it was a dramatic experience to them...they still cannot come to grips with it...they counted their chickens before they hatched. Big elementary mistake.
So all they can do is attack each day...even paid protesters ...
Biden when he spoke months ago barely had a crowd...they have to hire a good entertainer to draw a crowd.
Hey are you here at this gathering...oh to see and hear "whoever" sing.
...oh ok Biden is talking after zzzzzzz.
He better speak before the singer because if he speaks after ...75% of the crowd may exit..
Of course this happened before Covid 19...
When Pres Trump has gathering......big crowds and no famous actor or band needed. 8)
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Interesting people focus on the top of the iceberg...but do not see the 90 % huge ice under the water.
Pres Trump has done so many great decisions ( under the water iceberg. ) but the Joe Blows only concentrate on his few imperfections ;D
Well the poor guy has been under attack everyday since he got in office.
Why ??? Because when Trump won it was a dramatic experience to them...they still cannot come to grips with it...they counted their chickens before they hatched. Big elementary mistake.
CNN is quoted and documented as 'looking for ways' to impeach him before he was even elected back in 2016.
And yes....that has been fact checked over and over....it still comes out the same every time.
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CNN is quoted and documented as 'looking for ways' to impeach him before he was even elected back in 2016.
And yes....that has been fact checked over and over....it still comes out the same every time.
CNN ..............Crooked ( fake news ) National Network.
Impeach him even before he was elected....if true and as you Robert checked this out...it must be factual.
What snakes ..CNN is to report news not invent news or try to change coming history ...
Boooooooooooo !
SP - new and improved CNN............. Snake Pit - Crooked ( fake news ) National Network.
They put Jesus on the cross like ya said recently.....well ...Pres. D Trump has been crucified for only wanting to " Make America Great Again " .
Sadly Covid 19 has made every nation not so great at the moment ...UV light to the rescue...make USA Canada etc....great again !!!
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.......you two kill me.....trump is the biggest snake oil salesman and carnival barker on the planet......as crooked as a country road and a dog's hind leg.....a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon up his arse....you wouldn't buy a used car from him ....let him manage your retirement fund... or babysit your kids...
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.......you two kill me.....trump is the biggest snake oil salesman and carnival barker on the planet......as crooked as a country road and a dog's hind leg.....a spoiled brat born with a silver spoon up his arse....you wouldn't buy a used car from him ....let him manage your retirement fund or babysit your kids...
X2
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Ralph read article ..it's not long...
some of your posts must be as long or longer.
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I do know this
We don't have a homeless problem.
We have a drug addiction and mental health problem.
You really that ignorant?
BTW..
IMHO You have a mental health problem!
You believe in a non-existent being... or 2.
Some believe in 6ft rabbits as imaginary friends ...
You believe in the 'cloud guy' ... mental!
Don't have a homeless problem?!?.... are you blind??!
So the mentally ill and the addicted will reside where while seeking treatment. Where exactly... in the back alley 'home', under the bridge 'home' or in the cardboard box in a doorway 'home' that they are currently using?!?
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some of your posts must be as long or longer.
Spoonman and FA -2 x .
Yous are thinking about the old Trump....the new and improved Pres. D Trump now has repented of his past wrongs.
You will now see Mr Pres. Trump meeting many Bible centred pastors...( no never seen Pastor Copleland with him ...that'd good) Paula White, Grant Jefferies ...Christian world famous brain surgeon ..Christian businessmen millionaires....on and on...
You will know a man by his actions and as Pres. he has done so much to untie the knots from the past leadership.
Ralph ....OUCH....fake news fake news...come on now ...ever so often here and there my posts may be looooooong...but the far majority is short and sweet.
To the point.
But whether looooooong or short my comments are always "sweet".
Not hurtful....well commented tied coho-Jake to rail track ...with train coming...for trying to get comments back on trend....but he knew I was joking......hope so he knew. ;D
Lots of people on the street are 1) drug addicts 2) mentally ill 3) some just cannot afford to pay the high cost of rent.
Some are parts of all 3 . Some are more of # 1 Some more of # 2 Some are just # 3.
We put criminals in jails ....prisons...in multi million dollar institutions...
If people are homeless for whatever reason...should there not be built big institution..with rooms.....big commercial kitchens ...gov staff.
Give them the help they need...get off drugs...help for their mental illness...clean safe bed...healthy food...clean cloths ...washrm / showers...
Hopefully a workshop of some kind where they can have a 4 hour job ..
Or work crew ...clean up sidewalks...racking leaves...painting fire hydrants...whatever they can do ...cut grass...but get these people off the streets....
Then when get get better ...have a building with cheaper rents ( subsidized ) ...
But a city in Canada having ( cities ) tent cities....needles on sidewalk / parks. / urine / poo on the ground....garbage all over the place....it should not be. People and kids should not have to see needles poo urine in the park...sidewalk..
EDIT IN: plus the crime it attracts ...
Old people out for a walk should not have to be attacked /robbed by homeless with whatever problems.
One cattle slaughter house in Alberta has 900 wkrs infected.
That is one heck of a lot of wkrs to have Covid 19 just in one work place.
A Philippino spokesman was on the tv news expressing his concerns ...a high % of care aids in senior homes and so high % of wkrs in slaughter houses in poultry /cattle are philipinos /Filipinas .
They get sick in the workplace and then they spread it to their family members...
Of course all races get Covid 19 but senior facilities/slaughter houses are hot beds...cruise ships too have lots of Philipinos as well.
These workplaces will have to have stricter controls...masks etc...
Or they will not want to work...scared to ..even it there's more $$$ for danger pay.
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New and improved Trump ? Just because he met with some bible thumping pastors doesn't make him "improved"
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You really that ignorant?
BTW..
IMHO You have a mental health problem!
You believe in a non-existent being... or 2.
Some believe in 6ft rabbits as imaginary friends ...
You believe in the 'cloud guy' ... mental!
Don't have a homeless problem?!?.... are you blind??!
So the mentally ill and the addicted will reside where while seeking treatment. Where exactly... in the back alley 'home', under the bridge 'home' or in the cardboard box in a doorway 'home' that they are currently using?!?
bobby b, I think you took what he said out of context.
It's because of lack of funding that places like Riverview closed it doors and thousands of the mentally ill and addicts had no place to go. You can thank the debunked Socreds for that.
Unfortunately, most of the homeless fall under this category, but providing temporary housing doesn't solve their problems. Even with provisions of social assistance and outreach centers, their capacity for seeking help only goes as far as their mental state or addiction will allow them.
Of course there are those who just fell on hard times and with the lack of affordable housing, became homeless. From a social aspect point of view, it would be less complicated to give assistance to the needy without having to deal with other personal issues that would hinder their progress.
To deal with the problem, you have to deal with the rational first.
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Socreds thought by closing Riverview they were going to save money. By releasing the mentally ill with no support, it created a lot more problems which we are seeing today.
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..........born again trump........a super tanker of snake oil....an ocean of cherry kool-aid....
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A boater
Are you saying that meeting with Bible- centered Pastors has made Donald Trump a better person or leader?
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You really that ignorant?
BTW..
IMHO You have a mental health problem!
You believe in a non-existent being... or 2.
Some believe in 6ft rabbits as imaginary friends ...
You believe in the 'cloud guy' ... mental!
Don't have a homeless problem?!?.... are you blind??!
So the mentally ill and the addicted will reside where while seeking treatment. Where exactly... in the back alley 'home', under the bridge 'home' or in the cardboard box in a doorway 'home' that they are currently using?!?
;D ;D ;D
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A boater
Are you saying that meeting with Bible- centered Pastors has made Donald Trump a better person or leader?
FA you are correct as just meeting pastors does not make Pres. Trump improved.
Born again Trump ...ya right so says Spoonman.
Then hammer asks the ? if Pres. Trump is a better person /leader because of being around pastors.
Walking into a church every Sunday does not get a person saved.
Person can attend every Sunday for 50 yrs and put 5-10-20 or what dollars in the ushers bucket and still go straight to hell.
Word says that many mumble prayers but God looked at their heart and saw their thoughts as they prayed.
Lions game at 2 pm or Canucks vs New Jersey Devils or Calgary Flames ...or T-bone steak mashed potatoes with brown gravy green peas green salad ....glass of red wine.
( gee that sounds delicious ...better stop this comment and come back later to finish it off. I'm going food shopping ..list T - bone steak.. Oh no get with it A-Boater finish this comment. Ok ...)
In other words many can go to church like they attend a movie....or play.
God is greater than our hearts. He sees if you are truly reaching out in faith /sincerity praying praising worshipping....God wants people to praise Him in spirit and truth. Not just be a listener /play church.
Like church should not just be horizontal only....but in the church lift up your eyes to heaven and have a one to one heart talk with Him. Hard to do if the preacher is luke warm and nearly puts ya to zzzzzzzzz.
Word says that if anyone reaches out to Christ from their heart God will respond.
Romans says: ...those that call on the name of The Lord ( from their heart. ) shall be saved.
Ephesians 2:8&9 says we get saved only by His love forgiveness mercy grace free gift for the asking.
But we must ask The Lord though to get this gift of free salvation.
New Age says we are gods.....we don't need God.....
The Godhead Father Son Holy Spirit...is the Way the Truth and the Life.
Jesus is the same yesterdaytodayforever ...
As this virus Covid 19 is active and hard to detect...or see so the devil/demons are active 24/7.
If you grab the Holy Bible and put it's many topics in a big pot add water carrots onions potatoes ..hot sauce and boil it for hrs and hrs....till there is just two spoonfuls to eat ....
One spoonful is Jesus cross resurrection grace mercy and heaven ....the other spoonful is sin devil and hell...
Honestly what is more ultimate than where a person spends eternity?
Heaven or hell.
You say that's a bunch of horse poo...your guessing ...brainwashed...programmed...pulling at straws...
Well ya many who attend churches are just that.
Brainwashed churchanity seat warmers and after walking out of the service do not think about religious theme till the next week.
In fact many pastors /preachers took the job because they thought just that "I need a job."
Here is how you can know 1000% that Jesus is fact.
You do not even have to go to church if you do not want to.
Church is good if you find a pastor/priest and believers that are sincere in their faith.
If you reach out to The Lord with all your heart and with everything you have ask Him to forgive your sins and to come into your life....you will have a "born again" encounter ! You will know your different...
You will have a peace love joy...life and life more abundant ...plus heaven will be your home.
Ephesians 2:8&9 grace ...so no Christian can brag or feel they are better than anyone.
So to answer all your guys comments and one ? by hammer....
Pres Trump being around pastors will not give him any new and improved leader or Pres. qualities.
But from many pastors who know Pres. Trump personally they have gone on record to say he has said the sinners prayer and has had an encounter with God !!!!
Oh he's a baby in The Lord but as he prays daily and reads God's Word ( New Testament is best for new believers ) his character and personality will take on more Christ like or mature Christian walk.
Pres. Trump has sincerely prayed to Jesus ....God saw his lips move...God looked into his heart and saw his heart was behind that prayer ( sincere prayer ) so...God forgave him and his sins are now whiter than snow. Born again spiritually ...YES I believe so.
Ephesians 6:10-20 tells of a spiritual warfare going on.
1 John 3:8 says Jesus came to destroy satan's works.
God is God ...billion times and more powerful than satan...who is a mere fallen angel.
Pres. Trump now is crossed over to the winning team.
It's his prayer to God that has made him new and improved.
Not him being around pastors.
But now that he is a believer it is "super" he has support from other sincere believers.
Speak from experience ...been in God's Presence ( Annointing ) and a few times have literally felt the presence of the demonic....not cool. Ha! We all have the same enemy(s) Covid 19 and mr lucifer Ha! ;)
As far as Covid 19 I went to Costco and there was a long line up outside. As shoppers exited they allowed other shoppers to enter.
It was a joke ....shoppers in the store were everywhere and going in every direction...there was no " one way" in the isles ...20-30 % of the time another shopper was close by to my shopping cart.
Wore a mask for the first time ...hope that helped. Had sanitizer so put on hands before and after ...plus gargled original Listerine before and after too.
Got allowable paper products....plus lots of eggs etc ...instant coffee in can...on sale other things only Costco has.
So do not have to go back there for 2-3 months...just go to Safeway or Freshco or even Shoppers Pharmacy that sells eggs milk bread too....
But keeping 6 ft away inside Costco ....no way....enter still your own risk. :o
Robert me "yours truly" and Pres. Trump are not perfect or right 100% of the time....but we are forgiven and on our way to heaven.
I'm a forgiven sinner. Not a forgiven angel.
This gospel train is going to heaven....jump on and join us !!! We are not perfect ...works in progress but we are better than we once were.....from glory to glory...
Pres. Trump is on the gospel train choo choo destination HEAVEN !!! Next stop !!!
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It's all just Babble-on and Trump, like his 'Pastors', is nothing but a disciple of Mammon. People like A-B and RG are the sheep they fleece.
" You cannot serve God and Mammon"
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Robert me "yours truly" and Pres. Trump are not perfect or right 100% of the time....but we are forgiven and on our way to heaven.
I'm a forgiven sinner. Not a forgiven angel.
This gospel train is going to heaven....jump on and join us !!! We are not perfect ...works in progress but we are better than we once were.....from glory to glory...
Pres. Trump is on the gospel train choo choo destination HEAVEN !!! Next stop !!!
If you're following Trump to wherever he is going after life, chances are you are going to hell. LOL! ;D Have a good time the gullibles.
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The natural mind cannot comprehend the supernatural.
So when the Presence of God came on me in Williams Lake in 1973 after a prayer....what was that?
Reaction to eating green pickles and ice cream ?
Or when the province paper put out a 1/2 page story on two ex occultists coming to a faith....( I gave the reporter the lead ) story in 1977....a few hours before the paper came out on Sat am ...at 3:30 am a very very invisible evil presence came into my room....EVIL x 1000 it felt like.
I got so scared !!!! :o
I spoke out: In the name of Jesus get outta here.
Sensed the evil presence flee to the west towards the window of the bedroom ...
Thank God for that.
Guess the devil/ demons were not too happy with the newspaper article...
I got the balling rolling...and the two Christians told about their involvement in an occultic group before they were saved.
Oh ok I guess that day I ate 2 green pickles and 2 bowls of ice cream. ;D
You big_fish and RalphH are you so sure about your views.
You've fallen for the devil's 1st trick.
His favourite....convincing people to believe he does not exist....
What ever ya do stay away from ouija boards ...tarot cards ...all that occult stuff...
Met many people who get sleep paralysis encounters.....MDs say it 's a sleep stage and normal.
Go to youtube and check out what people say about their sleep paralysis ...see a dark shadow..feel an evil presence....can't move their body...
Could tell you many stories ...but you would just say it was because I ate green pickle and ice cream....
My neighbour a few house away is getting very impatient ...he wants everyone and everything to open up....restaurants ...malls ....sporting events...go back to work....
( he's retired though and doesn't have to ride so crowded bus ..if he wants everything to go back the way it was. ) Think his idea is if you get the virus 95% chance you will get better so what's the big deal.
Does he have a point ?
Possibly.
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Yep, drugs, don't do them, you'll go to hell like this guy here.
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Yep, drugs, don't do them, you'll go to hell like this guy here.
;D ya right.
There must be millions who flipped out on drugs then.
(It's not a new discovery ...faith encounter with God.)
But big_fish know there are lots of frauds out there that cloudy the issue when the real deal stories come out.
Anyways keep one eye open and one eye closed on the subject....sure not forcing anyone to believe like me.
I'm just sharing and telling it as it is.
Take it or leave it but just stay open to the fact I just may be right.
Know I am right but that's beside the point.
Oh ya ok read Harry Potter book and then ate green pickle and ice cream....
Last bit of advice ...if you ever experience anything weird in your house " whatever" just call on Jesus to help you. Even if your not a believer.
After He comes to your aid....you will be a believer afterwords. ;D
But hey I do not think of the evil side ....I focus on the goodness of God but am very aware of the spiritual battle.
Like in our neighbourhood ya think of positive and happy activities but still have to be aware of crime/criminals.
So ya lock your door ....don't leave $20 cash sitting on dash of car....so on...
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sure not forcing anyone to believe like me.
Yep, sure you're not. what a joke.
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Yep, sure you're not. what a joke.
So ya think I'm forcing my view...
I'm just sharing ...you can dismiss it or say what if A boater is right.
It's up to you.
Only one way to find out.
A prayer from your heart directed to The Saviour
If you encounter God you know I'm right.....if nothing happens then I'm full of BS.
Forcing no way...if you become a believer by my forcing ...as you say then your brainwashed by me.
We have too many brainwashed so called Christians going to church.
But if you pray and get zapped ( ha!) by God's Holy Spirit...then your faith will be real and not forced by me.
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compassion, a metric thats missing from this administration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6lxKOfn8_E
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Yep, drugs, don't do them, you'll go to hell like this guy here.
so i shouldn't have done those mushrooms last weekend?
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You big_fish and RalphH are you so sure about your views.
You've fallen for the devil's 1st trick.
A-B you're not bothering to understand what I wrote. A Christian (which Trump claims to be) cannot both love God and be a Christian and fanatically engage in the pursuit of wealth or money. I can recognize or accept your faith in God but not in Trump.
As for the Devil's tricks, who has been tricked?
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A-B you're not bothering to understand what I wrote. A Christian (which Trump claims to be) cannot both love God and be a Christian and fanatically engage in the pursuit of wealth or money. I can recognize or accept your faith in God but not in Trump.
As for the Devil's tricks, who has been tricked?
The evangelicals sold their souls and made a deal with a godless megalomaniac. They continue to back the current administration and, in return, he advances a slate of socially conservative causes, from the defunding of Planned Parenthood, to restrictions on abortion, to the appointment of large numbers conservative judges at all levels of the court system, to restrictions on immigration, etc etc etc...
Viewed in this light, I understand why the religious right back Trump and it's not because they think he's a believer. They're trying desperately to retain political control in a country whose demographics have been shifting away from organized religion for decades.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZBOwMHte4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAm_ySvjsUg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAm_ySvjsUg
I really enjoyed the remix video, thank you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
lol classic...
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A-B you're not bothering to understand what I wrote. A Christian (which Trump claims to be) cannot both love God and be a Christian and fanatically engage in the pursuit of wealth or money. I can recognize or accept your faith in God but not in Trump.
As for the Devil's tricks, who has been tricked?
Who has been tricked ?
The majority of earth's population for starters. ;D
Since I had astral travel projection ( occult ) before my salvation ...know there's really a freaky realm that exists.
Anything supernatural it's source is either from God or mr Lucifer's side.
After my conversion in 1973 ( God's Holy Spirit encounter ) I never astral projected ever again.
Deuteronomy ch 18:10-12 is just one of 400 verses that warn on the paranormal.
There are 1000's of UFO sighting and 100's of 1000s of people claiming they have had alien abductions...or seen an alien in their bedroom!!!!
Don't call ghost busters or alien busters call DEMON BUSTERS.
It's nothing for mr lucifer / demons to transform themselves to look like an ufo or alien creature...
Word says "he's the prince of the air " a deceiver counterfeit father of lies....
Remember getting a newsletter from 100 Huntley St when David Mainse was still alive...told of a couple who seen aliens in their room ...but as this couple was also in the occult at the time...they concluded 100% they were demons.
Even a divining rod. Forked stick.
Practitioner grabs the two forked sticks and the other pointed end bounces up and down ....then stops.
They count the times the stick went up/down that is how many feet the water is located underground.
Farmers in the prairies so on had these guys come over with these divining sticks ...as they were going to put in a water pump /well.
Divining rod from the word divination.
There's a big interest in the supernatural ...so many reality programs on haunted locations...
Even on that Canada full time native channel there's a program The Other Side.
So called experts going to haunted locations in Canada.
I emailed them gave them a warning what they are really dealing with but no response. No problem ...did not expect a response. Natives are doing much better in recent yrs but there is a % still under many bondages....abuse drugs alcohol suicide prison population has high % of native so....they sure do not need to watch The Other Side tv program.
I meet so many into dabbing with ouija boards...it's totally demonic.
But as for recent comments...yep rev Copeland and all these $$$$ prosperity evangelists ( as Robert mentioned as well. ) are totally very bad examples !!!
Any bad press they get is deserved.
If these preachers were so loving so caring they would feel what the billion or so of the very poor's suffering.
Girls 10 yrs old giving themselves to men for $$$ to survive ( food $)
Billy Graham I consider one of the very best evangelist and who walked in integrity ...who is on youtube..plus lots of his vids on there warn about the devil demons occult...in his crusades.
But he started an organization for evangelists to become members.
It was for evangelists to have a salary and to have $$$ for needs and not greeds.
Rev. Graham was on a salary ...lived in a modest house and far from a mansion.
As for as Pres. Trump goes...he's a buissness man before becoming pres.
He was a rascal in the past ...ladies love for $$$ but he now has given his life to The Lord.
Ok to have $$$ but the LOVE of $$ is the root of all evil. To like $$$ to help others is ok.
As Jesus said ...give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and give unto God what is God's.
Then give to yourself ( family ) and help others in need.
Mrs Trump at one gathering ( airport in Florida ) read The Lord's Prayer.
Thought that was a indication of her faith she and her hubby have.
Oh no ....the democrats were so negative....complaining that she had to read from a paper, So what?
What's the big deal ?
The great part she said the prayer in public.
People's hearts are sooooooooo evil.
That vid laughing about Christianity ...by the comedian ... ;D
Well check this out:
Ariana Grande says she was attacked by demon.
Hollywood life. ( youtube vid )
If she was smart she's run to The Lord ...maybe she has who knows.
Yes satan is real and he's tricked the majority. I repeat.
It will be hard to mock Christianity when a person is in hell being tormented.
Check out vid: 20 Minutes in Hell . Bill Wiese. ( think that's his name )
But the latest news is China.
Reports are they knew how this virus spread so rapidly ...and should of closed off all travel locally / internationally ....but waited much too long ....on purpose ???
Looks like it.
It was like they did not care Covid 19 spread to other countries.
USA is looking at the fact China should be held responsible and thus cough up $$$$ to pay the bills ...it costs the USA Canada Europe so on...
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imagine living your entire life in delusion and not doing anything constructive like this lol... that's ok though, the after life will be better! ;D
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At this point, and after all this time and available information, if you support 45 or the GOP you're either dealing with mental/emotional issues or a terrible human being. The conversation here feels like a demonstration of a bit of both, which makes me sad. I would encourage you to seek out some help and make some attempt to open your awareness to information outside of the echo chamber you clearly live inside of.
I expect you won't, but I truly hope you and others who share your situation do. This is only a test run of the challenges that are to come for everyone and the best way through is for us to trust in science and each other. That's not going to be possible for anyone who is incapable of critical thought or a support system to help them through it.
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imagine living your entire life in delusion and not doing anything constructive like this lol... that's ok though, the after life will be better! ;D
You have won a free ticket big_fish ...only you are allowed to watch this youtube video !!!
Congrads!
God of Wonders The documentary (2009) full length
Rachel Lubbe
( doc and with comments from scientists in this doc. )
I repeat only big_fish can watch this video NO ONE ELSE.
His ticket was drawn from the hat ...that had over 1 million tickets ( big hat )
I HAVE SPOKEN. ( ;D )
And make sure ya watch the vid or story of "Ariana Grande says she was attacked by a demon"
It's amazing if ya share about God ..most scoff ...
But share about real stories ..on demons ...and they run to God !!!
Like one priest said he wanted to give his life to God because he did not want to go to hell.
;D
Well whatever works.
Catholic beliefs have great Truth Jesus .
But some doctrines or beliefs that are not in the Bible.
Pray to Mary ...confess you sins to a priests ....etc..
But they have lots of really good ideas.
Catholic reading : the four last things ( think they call it ) death judgement heaven hell.
As for Covid 19 the experts keep saying....well we do not know the answer...
Then another question....we do not know the answer right now.
Then later ....we are thinking it is like this but we are not too sure...we are looking more into it...
So on. Gee just social distance vit C vit D rest sanitizer wash hands gargle with Listerine ( original ) drink hot drinks ( drink Lysol no no no just kidding )
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd
Be glad that we live in a country where the leaders are constantly reassuring and reminding people to be kind and tolerant.
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...but he now has given his life to The Lord.
Who ? Trump?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
You have to be either joking or completely delusional!!
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Can we plz be done with the all bible and gawd hogwash already!
Believe what you like, but enough already.....
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd
Be glad that we live in a country where the leaders are constantly reassuring and reminding people to be kind and tolerant.
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The evangelicals sold their souls and made a deal with a godless megalomaniac.
No.
in return, he advances a slate of socially conservative causes, from the defunding of Planned Parenthood, to restrictions on abortion, to the appointment of large numbers conservative judges at all levels of the court system, to restrictions on immigration, etc etc etc...
I think any sane person would give anything to have a leader in Canada do any or all of those things. Our useless leader does none of them.
Viewed in this light, I understand why the religious right back Trump and it's not because they think he's a believer.
Not all Christians believe Trump is a believer. I don't know him personally or well enough to make that judgement. What I do know is that his behavior since he put his name in the hat (2015) has aligned more and more with that of a Christian. He still has a long way to go, and so does every other Christian (If indeed Trump is one; I'm not saying he is or isnt).
All Christians are at different stages of their faith. If Trump is indeed a Christian, then he is a new one....spiritual maturity doesn't happen overnight.
They're trying desperately to retain political control in a country whose demographics have been shifting away from organized religion for decades.
Not true. True Christians end game is not political. We are commanded by God to protect the helpless and most vulnerable (top example being unborn children from being murdered).
By voting in the conservative choice (and in some cases the lesser of 2 evils), we will always vote in the choice that is closest to Christian values...as well as the choice that allows Christians the most freedom to live and proclaim the true Gospel of Christ.
in a country whose demographics have been shifting away from organized religion for decades.
Are you aware the most true Bible believing Christians (myself included) despise the institution of organized religion?
Real Christians first and foremost search out a lasting genuine relationship with Jesus Himself.
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People like A-B and RG are the sheep they fleece.
Totally backwards Ralph. You are the guy top left. You are the one that believes everything the liberals feed you.
(https://i.imgur.com/L4LDuj9.jpg)
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At this point, and after all this time and available information, if you support 45 or the GOP you're either dealing with mental/emotional issues or a terrible human being. The conversation here feels like a demonstration of a bit of both, which makes me sad. I would encourage you to seek out some help and make some attempt to open your awareness to information outside of the echo chamber you clearly live inside of.
You sir, just displayed the poster boy attitude of the 3 'I's; 'intolerant' 'ignorant' 'indoctrinated'.
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Who ? Trump?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
You have to be either joking or completely delusional!!
Firstly Rod's link...
That is 1st degree murder for sure.
How senseless.
Yes Pres. D Trump has accepted The Lord ...he is a baby in Christ and is digesting the milk of the Word.
So...as he does his daily devotions ..learn to walk with God ..learn how to be led by the Holy Spirit ..he will be digesting the meat of scripture ...growing rapidly in his Christian character and soon you will see a decrease of Pres. Trump crazy ness to an increase of a Godly character...
Give it time folks !
They did not build Rome overnight.
Ya plant seeds in a garden ...ya cannot eat produce the next day.
Plus only God is perfect....as people are all at dif. stage of spiritual maturity.
bobby b ya say hogwash !!! Enough said already.
Why is it getting a little hot under your collar...all the lies deceptions you believed my info is starting to show you what real Truth is.
Ya have fallen the mr Lucifer's 1st trick.
Get your head out of the hole in the sand like the ostrich.
God bless you anyways.
Ya God .
Can you imagine having these two guys confronting the security guard ...and killing him as your in laws.
Hope they catch these guys because it's just a matter of time they get upset and kill again.
What if their dentist pulls the wrong tooth of one of these guys? Bang bang bang.
Or how about having these guys as your neighbour ?
Lord help us.
Of course if you are my neighbour ...I share The Lord with you ;D
Well actually do share with neighbours but only at Christmas.
Do not want to arm twist.
Even here I never talk politics or religion.
But only respond when others bring it up the subject. :o 8)
Only Robert and a few other FWR members have a 20/20 understanding on the subject.
We learn from each other.
If not learn hopefully your a little more open minded on the subject.
Have to untangle all the weeds satan puts in people's minds.
Weeding the minds garden I am.
Great cartoon Robert......sure makes a good pt too.
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I think any sane person would give anything to have a leader in Canada do any or all of those things. Our useless leader does none of them.
maybe you should make that the platform for the conservatives in the next election. lets see any canadian politician bring in anti abortion laws. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. another trudeau win in the making.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xhOuTLrDQE
scary stuff
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Can we plz be done with the all bible and gawd hogwash already!
Believe what you like, but enough already.....
lol... Sorry. As annoying as this thread may be, I left it up because I am fascinated by the racism, homophobia, misogyny, just the need to control in general being displayed by the minority in this country. It's kind of funny, and sad at the same time, that there are individuals who are so scared, insecure and desperate to have others to validate their own being and beliefs. And when that fails, the toxic display of belittling and that false sense of dominance emerge immediately.
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You sir, just displayed the poster boy attitude of the 3 'I's; 'intolerant' 'ignorant' 'indoctrinated'.
Please walk me down the path with you to reach this conclusion.
Intolerant because I suggested you expand your information gathering to include more than things that reaffirm your toxic world view?
Ignorant because I question absolutes rather than take them at face value? To employ even the smallest degree of critical thinking?
Indoctrinated into what? The idea that society could be higher functioning than it currently is? Sure, I guess?
Please stop communicating only in logical fallacies and try to gain a sliver of self awareness. Again, I trust that you won't, but I hope you do and find happiness.
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I prayed that A-BOATER and Robert_G won't post anymore about God and religion. So far HE has not responded. Guess there is no God after all ;)
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lets see any canadian politician bring in anti abortion laws. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. another trudeau win in the making.
I'm not even going to try to disagree with you on this one. You're 100% correct. Canadians are NEVER going to vote in a party with a platform that includes making abortion illegal. Those days are long over.
That doesn't change the fact that God commanded all human beings to protect the innocent, the vulnerable, and the helpless.
Anyone who agrees or believes that murdering unborn children should be legal most definitely has a special place in hell waiting for them if they don't repent.
Please walk me down the path with you to reach this conclusion.
Intolerant because I suggested you expand your information gathering to include more than things that reaffirm your toxic world view?
Ignorant because I question absolutes rather than take them at face value? To employ even the smallest degree of critical thinking?
Indoctrinated into what? The idea that society could be higher functioning than it currently is? Sure, I guess?
I'll just shorten the quote for you
if you support 45 or the GOP you're either dealing with mental/emotional issues or a terrible human being.
You just labeled half the American population according to your own self absorbed beliefs.
I can't help you any further if you don't see the 3 'I's in that.
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I prayed that A-BOATER and Robert_G won't post anymore about God and religion. So far HE has not responded. Guess there is no God after all ;)
Oh...He will respond....when you are at His judgement seat and it's too late to repent.
Do not mock God. You're on thin ice doing that.
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I can't help you any further if you don't see the 3 'I's in that.
I stand by it.
Fully supporting a person who is openly racist, misogynist, a consistent and unabashed criminal, willing to murder tens (soon hundreds) of thousands of people to fill his and his friends bank accounts (this list could go on and on), all while having the easiest access to facts in human history, makes you either willingly ignorant or on board with his motives. Either one makes you a bad person and, equally so, a bad christian.
Nobody is beyond help or change and I do honestly hope you one day gain awareness of just how destructive your world view is. I am sorry you had some trauma in your life that lead you both to this.
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I'm not even going to try to disagree with you on this one. You're 100% correct. Canadians are NEVER going to vote in a party with a platform that includes making abortion illegal. Those days are long over.
That doesn't change the fact that God commanded all human beings to protect the innocent, the vulnerable, and the helpless.
Anyone who agrees or believes that murdering unborn children should be legal most definitely has a special place in hell waiting for them if they don't repent.
I'll just shorten the quote for you
You just labeled half the American population according to your own self absorbed beliefs.
I can't help you any further if you don't see the 3 'I's in that.
robert, do you believe in the separation of church and state? honest question.
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Oddly enough this wacky thread is providing me some sanity during these crazy times.
Interesting to see all the different views and "fact" presented. Some have made me think and some have made me giggle.
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robert, do you believe in the separation of church and state? honest question.
Yes, but the answer is more complicated then just a 'yes' or 'no'.
We live in a secular world. What that means is Jesus told those who were His that we are not considered to have citizenship in this world. My citizenship is in heaven. What that means is that we are here for a little while to be ambassadors for God...our main purpose is to proclaim the Gospel to the unsaved. Not all Christians fully agree on the entirety of what that means. The Apostle Paul point blank said that Christians "are not to get involved in the affairs of the world".
That generally means that we shouldn't protest things that are only political. However, when Christians stand up against abortion and things of that nature, that is NOT what Paul was teaching against. As ambassadors for God we are to try and influence the world with His morals and truth....but at the same time not take control of the world....nor should be try or desire to rule over it. This is a very straight forward teaching in scripture....and sadly as we all know through the years, that command has been abused....even by well meaning Christians....keep in mind we are far from perfect.
With that all said, Christians still have to put in up to 100 years or so on this earth. We still want to live our lives and have our freedom to believe in what we do. So whenever possible, we do what we can to influence the rest of the world to what God's morals and truth are. We are commanded to do this. Commanded to influence, not control or rule....or in many cases......even get involved in the affairs of the world at all.
This requires a fine balancing act....I don't know any Christians who are perfect at it or even close. Christians are full of energy (or at least should be) to do God's work and spread the gospel where they can....and sometimes we go to far....but most times not far enough....again....a balancing act that takes time and spiritual maturity to figure out.
I hope that answers your question.
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lol... Sorry. As annoying as this thread may be, I left it up because I am fascinated by the racism, homophobia, misogyny, just the need to control in general being displayed by the minority in this country. It's kind of funny, and sad at the same time, that there are individuals who are so scared, insecure and desperate to have others to validate their own being and beliefs. And when that fails, the toxic display of belittling and that false sense of dominance emerge immediately.
Rodney allowed me to vent after all these yrs...on other websites fishing or whatever I'd be banned by now..me thinks.
But know when these crazy times are over ..Covid 19 ...this site will get back to it 's usual topics and my ranting will stop...well maybe a quick tiny short weeny few words at Christmas and Easter. 2x a yr only.
Ya ya ya. Promise.
Plus Rodney has allowed us Robert and I to give our views as we have come to see it...not watered down. Hell fire and brimstone even.
This whole area is Discussion so any topic should be allowed ever so often but sure like the extra lee-way lately.
Politics or religion or green beans make your hair grow "whatever"...
Maybe we should thank Pres. Mr D Trump for bringing faith into the mainstream.
Obama is so in on himself ...he likes to hear the cheers.
But if other FWR members stop posting on faith ...my reaction to post will cease.
I'll just stick to Covid 19 ...
Do I believe in miracles ? Of course the earth zooming and rotating is a miracle and sunsets...by God's power.
And Rodney allowing me to have my say for his reasons...annoying or whatever is a miracle!!! :) :) :)
Possibly deep inside his heart he's possibly " considing " hey maybe Robert and A boater have a point....hmmmmmm...
FA prayed to God for us not to talk about religion but we still are ...so you assume God does not exist.
;D
FA God only answers prayers if it's in His Will.
When it's a prayer request against His Will ...He says "No" ;)
Anyways love you FA and all FWR members...with the love of The Lord.
You all are not agreeing with my points and that's ok ...
If you believed everything I posted you would all be like puppets...then fall for anything anyone said.
But hopefully you will keep one eye open the other one closed...maybe one day you will come to the time and pray...
God keeps knocking everyday on your heart's door.
Some open the door ...others may take longer ...others more longer ...but hopefully they open it one day ...even if it's on the death bed ...it's not too late . :)
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It's nothing for mr lucifer / demons to transform themselves to look like an ufo or alien creature...
.......or an orange turd in a blue suit.....
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Totally backwards Ralph. You are the guy top left. You are the one that believes everything the liberals feed you.
(https://i.imgur.com/L4LDuj9.jpg)
Fact checked again eh RG? ::)
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Plus Rodney has allowed us Robert and I to give our views
As much as Rod doesn't particularly like me, I do appreciate him allowing us to keep some good discussion going even though it's off topic a bit...so thumbs up to him for that.
I almost got banned recently at FlyBC for literally quoting something from the conservative party platform. No idea what the deal was there, but some of those mods are Nazi Mods there.
That being said, I have to give Rod some respect for allowing people to have the freedom to speak their beliefs and opinions here even when others are on complete opposite sides.
Again...thanks Rod for allowing that regardless of how much I disagree with your opinion on most things.
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Fact checked again eh RG? ::)
Nah....it had you written all over it. I just copied and paste.
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Many Republicans and Conservatives have been against Trump since he announced his run for Presidency and still are
https://www.facebook.com/Rightagainsttrump/
https://qz.com/1775505/the-most-radical-americans-of-2019-are-the-ethical-conservatives/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/opinion/lincoln-project.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/05/the-never-trumpers-next-move/609064/
https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/49/whats-left-of-the-right/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_2016_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign
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Many Republicans and Conservatives have been against Trump since he announced his run for Presidency and still are
https://www.facebook.com/Rightagainsttrump/
https://qz.com/1775505/the-most-radical-americans-of-2019-are-the-ethical-conservatives/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/opinion/lincoln-project.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/05/the-never-trumpers-next-move/609064/
https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/49/whats-left-of-the-right/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_2016_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign
There were many Liberals and Democrats that couldn't stand Obama and/or Hillary too. Lots of liberals can't stand JT either. What's are you trying to say?
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will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities ? Yes, I was supposed to be at Tunkwa lake for seven days last week. A trip I started 47years ago with my father and continued even after he passed. Thought I’d post this to steer away from what has become a dumpster fire of a topic. Anyone else missed any trips ?
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Nope....many tackle shops are reporting that no one from the LM is getting a hard time from anyone in the Princeton/Merrit/Kamloops area this year. Tonnes of guys are going fly fishing right now. But if you try to stay overnight....that's apparently where the problems start. Also, if they see 4 of you in one boat, you better be living under the same roof. Other than that, it's Stillwater season as usual.
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......would be nice to take the boat and the grandkids to stave,allouete or chilliwack soon.....
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......would be nice to take the boat and the grandkids to stave,allouete or chilliwack soon.....
Been on Alouette and Chilliwack lakes many moons ago...as after mainly fished salt...
From memory the south end had old trees under the surface of the water in a large area?
Is my memory right on this?
Thinking good place to get snagged.
Chilliwack was no limit on Kokenees ...40 caught even...
Big dollies on ford fender ..troll set up.
That ford fender really bend the rod.
Deep lake ..at that time word was fish more 1/3 south-west side of lake.
Think it is in this area somewhere a SUV went off the road into a lake 4x4 road I guess.
Did not catch news lately but heard alittle.
But never fished Stave Lake.
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There were many Liberals and Democrats that couldn't stand Obama and/or Hillary too. Lots of liberals can't stand JT either. What's are you trying to say?
LOL!
If you look at Presidential approval/disapproval polling - 10 to 25% of voters registered as Republicans do not approve of Trump at any given times. That's on the order of 3 to 7 million depending how much of an idiot he makes of himself.
Compare that to registered Democrats who approve Trump in the range of 5 to 10%.
Before he even thought of running for the Republican nomination it was widely recognized that Trump, as a business person, was as close to corrupt as they come, that's why Alan Lichtman who predicted Trumps election in 2016 (and every Presidential winner for the previous 8 elections) also predicted he would be impeached in his first term, which he was.
Yes there were Liberals & Dems who didn't like Obama or Hillary (neither was or is a Liberal, particularly in US terms), that's a natural part of politics, but try to find many who voted for McCain, Romney or Trump.
Of course you'll never understand.
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And right back to the dumpster fire. Oh well I tried.
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will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities ? Yes, I was supposed to be at Tunkwa lake for seven days last week. A trip I started 47years ago with my father and continued even after he passed. Thought I’d post this to steer away from what has become a dumpster fire of a topic. Anyone else missed any trips ?
Missed many so far.
2 interior annual fly fishing trips and many on my boat fishing for Sturgeon. Hate staring at my tarped boat waiting for things to get better. Oh well, lots of yard work and craft beer to consume. ;)
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Yup beer and yard work 👍
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Normally have our trailer at Cultus from April to September but that’s closed so I missed a bunch of April steelheading on the vedder as well.
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will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities ? Yes, I was supposed to be at Tunkwa lake for seven days last week. A trip I started 47years ago with my father and continued even after he passed. Thought I’d post this to steer away from what has become a dumpster fire of a topic. Anyone else missed any trips ?
Yes , missed opportunity this season at a favorite lake . I was booked in for next week however . The earliest it will be open , according to there website is June 1st. . The Park that is . May not open the resort .
Better safe than sorry . Fish aren't going anywhere , Just getting bigger :) .
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Yes would of went fishing at Port Hardy but thats been cancelled.
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Fish aren't going anywhere , Just getting bigger :) .
Is that factual??
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Is that factual??
It is, with the exception of fish in Port Hardy
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Missed many so far.
2 interior annual fly fishing trips and many on my boat fishing for Sturgeon. Hate staring at my tarped boat waiting for things to get better. Oh well, lots of yard work and craft beer to consume. ;)
Lots of guys out fishing for sturgeon right now
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Is that factual??
Hah ;D , fishfull thinking ;D
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It is, with the exception of fish in Port Hardy
If fishbc goes and dumps a bunch of fish into a stocked lake are they going to grow if no one is fishing for them? What about the fish already in the lake that now have to compete with twice as many fish? are they are going to grow?
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I think by now most people get it. What I don't get is they encourage retailers to reopen their doors stating they never wanted the shut down, but only to use guidelines and common sense. In the mean time they ordered provincial parks to close to prevent large gatherings....If they think people can use common sense in confined places why can't they use it in wide open spaces? Why are they having such a hard time putting guidelines in place? How hard is it to cordon off picnic areas, beaches, and play areas while giving access to trails and vast shorelines? If they're worried about violators, implement hefty fines in the thousands like they have in Ontario. Sometimes I feel, Dr. Bonnie Henry is liking the spotlight a little too much with her latest professor-like briefings and over the top analogy of current affairs. No one cares about statistical graphs, mathematical projections, and theoretical forecasts... and most don't even understand what she's trying to convey. After awhile, it becomes a broken record and the only flattening of the curve that's achieved is the attention span of the general public.
Lately it seems they're focusing more on the economy than the well being of the human psyche. If people at this point can't understand the importance of physical distancing and keeping their hands clean, they'll never get it. Finally, if the reopening of businesses are encouraged then wouldn't that go against essential travel?
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In the mean time they ordered provincial parks to close to prevent large gatherings....
I believe they have closed them to prevent people from traveling. Lets be honest the second they open them is the second people from vancouver will be booking to go to them all over the province.
I agree tho it is pointless, I dont no if anyone has been up the harrison forest service roads but a buddy of mine said for the first 40 km people were camped in any little pull out they could find. he said he had to go 50km in before finding a spot.
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I believe they have closed them to prevent people from traveling. Lets be honest the second they open them is the second people from vancouver will be booking to go to them all over the province.
I agree tho it is pointless, I dont no if anyone has been up the harrison forest service roads but a buddy of mine said for the first 40 km people were camped in any little pull out they could find. he said he had to go 50km in before finding a spot.
Well as you said, people are it doing anyway. I'm not suggesting they need to do a full blown opening. I'm only saying there has to be a proper balance to their approach. On one hand they want to encourage the reopening of businesses...on the other, they want to minimize essential travel. You can't have one without the other.
They want people to get fresh air using precautions, but don't want to rely solely on their common sense ....hence them taking precautionary measures by closing parks.
Everything they're doing right now is contradictory and needs to be revised or clarified to eliminate frustrations to the public.
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I believe they have closed them to prevent people from traveling. Lets be honest the second they open them is the second people from vancouver will be booking to go to them all over the province.
I agree tho it is pointless, I dont no if anyone has been up the harrison forest service roads but a buddy of mine said for the first 40 km people were camped in any little pull out they could find. he said he had to go 50km in before finding a spot.
i bet, personally i have written of this years local stuff. i have a few ideas off the beaten path but i am sure they will even be increased pressure. a friend of mine was camping at chehalis lake and said it was a cupcakes show.
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Yes would of went fishing at Port Hardy but thats been cancelled.
same, was suppose to do a prawning trip in mcneil. hopefully my trip in early july can still go ahead.
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Yup beer and yard work 👍
x2 with a little bit of car maintenance on the side. least i can still go for a rip.
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Yup beer and yard work 👍
Eat DRINK and be merry for tomorrow we die ( by Covid 19 that is )
In time it will pick us all off like .....3 snipers with barrels of ammo.
1 sniper 8 hr shift ...
How many Covid 19 bullets hit the target in 24 hrs ?
20,000 world wide....5000 deaths.
That 's up from yesterday sniper #2 says...
Try to be positive.....
Infections going up but easing the rules....Why? Because people are sick and tired being at home...they want to take their chances ...and get out of the house....hey it's May ....after June 21 the days get shorter .....
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Lots of guys out fishing for sturgeon right now
Yes,
Going over the Port Mann a few hrs ago I saw 4 boats anchored.
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Infections going up but easing the rules....Why? Because people are sick and tired being at home...they want to take their chances ...and get out of the house....hey it's May ....after June 21 the days get shorter .....
These are the times we live in my friend. Growing up in the early 70's, we played in the dirt, ate our lunch without washing our hands rolled around in filth while playing kick the can and didn't think twice about catching a cold while playing in the rain. Nowadays kids spend no time outside, walk around with hand sanitizers in their back pack, and need flu vaccines to get them through the colder months.
The point is we need to change our attitude towards the way we do things, not seclude to the extent of paralyzation. No one wants to get sick, but if it's about drawing guidelines there has to be a symbiotic relationship between the preservation of life and living life itself.
Even the health authorities and government realizes we can't continue to live like this, especially when they're unsure how long it will take to come up with a viable vaccine. Either way, we're all stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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How times change...your right it all seemed more simple then.
As ya say people did "whatever...and did not worry about all these bugs going around"
Now with world travel millions ..fly anywhere in the world and return in 3-4 days or 2 week vacations...then it seems the bugs get spread all over the world in 24 hrs.
Travel Agencies do not tell you the fake booze in some resorts....
Or sleeping bug that may bite you....and it gets into blood stream...yrs later it attacks organs of your body....or the virus going around ....
World travel just spreads bugs 24/7 365 days a yr.
( we do not tell tourists about wood tick bites either...)
Or 3 ladies walking on the sand on Jamaica beaches...bare footed.
Stray dogs crap / pi .....and it gets into the sand....walk on it and worms go through skin.
Big worms grow in the foot...plus gets into blood stream....( story 2-3 yrs ago on local tv )
But in 40 yrs if the world still exists ...these teens will be telling the people in 2060 ..well we did this way in 2020.....
Ya maybe the sports fishing in 2060 will be : this year there is a two week opening for sports fishing Sept 1 to 14.
Up a week from 2059.
Sports guys will be happy about that !!! An extra week goodie goodie.
Story of a nurse who got the idea to have IPads in rooms of Covid 19 patients .
This way they can listen to music movies and have live talks / see loved ones on the screen.
Next best thing than being there....
Covid 19 is invisible so it's just so easy to forget to be careful...wish it glowed in the dark and sparked in the day ...then it would be easy to avoid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
well said. again i worry about the right wing violence if trump loses the next election. one thing that cant be denied is a small fraction on the right turn violent and are mentally unstable. their are a few on the left who are unstable as well but very rarely turn violent.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
well said. again i worry about the right wing violence if trump loses the next election. one thing that cant be denied is a small fraction on the right turn violent and are mentally unstable. their are a few on the left who are unstable as well but very rarely turn violent.
X2
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
well said. again i worry about the right wing violence if trump loses the next election. one thing that cant be denied is a small fraction on the right turn violent and are mentally unstable. their are a few on the left who are unstable as well but very rarely turn violent.
What media are you watching?
Have you ever seen an Antifa protest? How about a Pro-Choice protest? etc etc etc.
The lefties protests are the worst and most violent of them all.
Did you not see the protests when BJ won the election recently in the U.K.?
Did you not see the protests when Trump won back in 2016?
Where do you guys dream this stuff up?
Here is a 54 second wake up call for you
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/571185563432892/
This next one is a pro choice vs pro life
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1066458080375974/
If you can't see the madness and hate in the 'lefties' on this one.....there is no help for you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
well said. again i worry about the right wing violence if trump loses the next election. one thing that cant be denied is a small fraction on the right turn violent and are mentally unstable. their are a few on the left who are unstable as well but very rarely turn violent.
You're not alone in worrying. There was a good article in the NYT a few weeks back on the 25th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. It's a combination of terrifying and heartbreaking.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/Timothy-McVeigh-Oklahoma-City-Bombing-Coronavirus.html
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Apparently not the media you are watching.
I also think you should note the reference to a "small faction" in the post you quoted
Schaffer (the writer in the video) made specific reference to domestic terrorism, not domestic demonstrations.
The fact is domestic terrorism by small factions of violent radical leftists all but disappeared after the mid-70s mostly because such groups no longer exist and no longer have a guiding external political force to look too, as they once did in the form of Leninist and Maoist governments in foreign countries.
Almost all instances of deadly domestic terrorism in the US is associated with anti-Semites, white supremacists, homophobes and misogynists.
What isn't known is the extent to which mental illness has interacted with the US gun obsession as well as the paranoia induced by the extensive social and cultural changes seen over the last decades or, for that matter, how these are expressed as public instances of mass hysteria. IMO that is likely considerable.
What media are you watching?
Have you ever seen an Antifa protest? How about a Pro-Choice protest? etc etc etc.
The lefties protests are the worst and most violent of them all.
Did you not see the protests when BJ won the election recently in the U.K.?
Did you not see the protests when Trump won back in 2016?
Where do you guys dream this stuff up?
Here is a 54 second wake up call for you
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/571185563432892/
This next one is a pro choice vs pro life
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1066458080375974/
If you can't see the madness and hate in the 'lefties' on this one.....there is no help for you.
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Apparently not the media you are watching.
I also think you should note the reference to a "small faction" in the post you quoted
Schaffer (the writer in the video) made specific reference to domestic terrorism, not domestic demonstrations.
The fact is domestic terrorism by small factions of violent radical leftists all but disappeared after the mid-70s mostly because such groups no longer exist and no longer a guiding external political force to look too, as they once did in the form of Leninist and Maoist governments in foreign countries.
Almost all instances of deadly domestic terrorism in the US is associated with anti-Semites, white supremacists, homophobes and misogynists.
What isn't known is the extent to which mental illness has interacted with the US gun obsession as well as the paranoia induced by the extensive social and cultural changes seen over the last decades or, for that matter, how these are expressed as public instances of mass hysteria. IMO that is likely considerable.
There have been a few attacks by left wing extremists in the states in the past two years. There may be more vocal right wing groups but the left kills as well.
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Apparently not the media you are watching.
Obviously.
I also think you should note the reference to a "small faction" in the post you quoted
Schaffer (the writer in the video) made specific reference to domestic terrorism, not domestic demonstrations.
Fair enough.
What do you say about the difference in the pro-life pro choice video?
Those are both demonstrations....and the lefties are most definitely displaying madness and hate compared to the peaceful prolife demonstration.
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Maybe it's just a rise in cases of self-defense?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/homegrown-terrorists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/
The president regularly invokes violent crises perpetrated by scary foreigners. The announcement of his candidacy began with the declaration that Mexican immigrants are “bringing drugs; they’re bringing crime; they’re rapists.” He called for a ban on Muslims coming to the United States after an ISIS-inspired attack in San Bernardino, California. In his border-wall address, he pointed to crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants, whose victims were bludgeoned to death, beheaded, or stabbed, to argue for the necessity of the wall. But there’s one spike in violence that the president rarely acknowledges or even mentions, and it’s the rise in far-right terror that has accompanied his ascension to the White House.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/right-wing-terrorist-killings-government-focus-jihadis-islamic-radicalism.html
Right-Wingers Are America’s Deadliest Terrorists:
After this weekend, right-wing terrorists have killed more people on U.S. soil than jihadis have since 9/11. So why is the government’s focus still on Islamic radicalism?
https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1
Every extremist killing in the US in 2018 had a link to a right-wing extremism, according to a January 2019 report from the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.
"The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists," the report states. "Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case."
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Obviously.
Fair enough.
What do you say about the difference in the pro-life pro choice video?
Those are both demonstrations....and the lefties are most definitely displaying madness and hate compared to the peaceful prolife demonstration.
funny, never seen any show up to a pro life rally dressed like this
(https://i.imgur.com/soqLAN0.jpg)
you know things have it rock bottom when sean hannity calls you out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-BW-TUGyM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
well said. again i worry about the right wing violence if trump loses the next election. one thing that cant be denied is a small fraction on the right turn violent and are mentally unstable. their are a few on the left who are unstable as well but very rarely turn violent.
This guy is not a Republican in the vid ;D
But memory serves me correctly it the democrats are are the violent ones.
Over and over Republican speakers were going to guest and give their lecture at some gym / or lecture room at a campus.
Riots broke out ...windows smashed ...university cancelled the event.
What should of happened was riot police should if arrested the rioters ..be charged...throw them in jail for a month.
Let the right wing speaker give their 2 cents .
On secular universities it's taboo to give your right wing views...why?
Because if you try...riots will be formed to show protest.
30 people smashing windows and lighting tires on fire ...throwing rocks...
Republicans are more calm than the % of Democrats.
Why is that?
More democrats I assume conclude we are animals ..not humans.
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funny, never seen any show up to a pro life rally dressed like this
(https://i.imgur.com/soqLAN0.jpg)
you know things have it rock bottom when sean hannity calls you out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-BW-TUGyM
These guys all standing too close to each other.
All rookies ..
Don 't they know one grenade will kill them all or one blast from a machine gun.
Spread out boys.....and dig fox holes !!!!
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This guy is not a Republican in the vid ;D
But memory serves me correctly it the democrats are are the violent ones.
Over and over Republican speakers were going to guest and give their lecture at some gym / or lecture room at a campus.
Riots broke out ...windows smashed ...university cancelled the event.
What should of happened was riot police should if arrested the rioters ..be charged...throw them in jail for a month.
Let the right wing speaker give their 2 cents .
On secular universities it's taboo to give your right wing views...why?
Because if you try...riots will be formed to show protest.
30 people smashing windows and lighting tires on fire ...throwing rocks...
Republicans are more calm than the % of Democrats.
Why is that?
More democrats I assume conclude we are animals ..not humans.
Conservatives derserve a voice. That was wrong what had happen to ben shapiro, jordan petterson and other conservative speakers. Free speech is essential to our social fabric. Just because you dont agree with someone doesn't mean they cant speak. No problems with debates just prepared to be challenged on your ideas or policies.
Where it ends though is where your bring weapons to a federal building and then have an idiot tell them their good people. Or when nurses need to block the road so ambulances can get through. These actions are disgraceful.
Most cities are having budget shortfalls. You think these mayors, premiers, governors and so on what to be in lockdown. They do this becaue they know the danger of hospitals being over run.
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What media are you watching?
Have you ever seen an Antifa protest? How about a Pro-Choice protest? etc etc etc.
The lefties protests are the worst and most violent of them all.
Did you not see the protests when BJ won the election recently in the U.K.?
Did you not see the protests when Trump won back in 2016?
Where do you guys dream this stuff up?
Here is a 54 second wake up call for you
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/571185563432892/
This next one is a pro choice vs pro life
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1066458080375974/
If you can't see the madness and hate in the 'lefties' on this one.....there is no help for you.
What makes me wonder is why its called a prager university but its not a real university. Just a conservative propaganda machine.
"PragerU is not a university or academic institution. It does not hold classes, does not grant certifications or diplomas, and is not accredited by any recognized body."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU
I get my media from a bunch of independent journalists. This way i recieve facts instead of opinions. Once i take it all in i come to my own conclusion based on the facts that have been presented.
Also dont waste your time giving me face book links. I dont do face book.
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What makes me wonder is why its called a prager university but its not a real university. Just a conservative propaganda machine.
"PragerU is not a university or academic institution. It does not hold classes, does not grant certifications or diplomas, and is not accredited by any recognized body."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU
Nor is Trump University. ;)
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What do you say about the difference in the pro-life pro choice video?
Those are both demonstrations....and the lefties are most definitely displaying madness and hate compared to the peaceful prolife demonstration.
What difference?
This next one is a pro choice vs pro life
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1066458080375974/
If you can't see the madness and hate in the 'lefties' on this one.....there is no help for you.
There is no violence by Pro-Choice people in that video!
How about you acknowledge the anti-choice movement's decades long history of:
- violence
- murder
- attempted murder
- assault
- intimidation
- harassment &
- fraud
and stop try to whitewash it with phony videos
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Its go time get out and fish and enjoy.
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Well with all the bad news lately...Covid 19, shooter killing people in eastern Canada, etc...etc...
Decided to unwind and have 6 cold Lager beers yesterday in about 2 hours in the back yard ...side yard...and front yard....fallowed the sun's rays...a few big trees about ...our yard ,other yard....so trees block the sun....so my chair had to be moved.......
Plus had head phones IPAD ...YT with Elvis gospel songs. :)
Songs never sounded so good.
Drank lots of skim milk during night so zero hang over or whatever today.
Normally when it comes to beer 2 is my max.
Older and wiser (than those past excessive booze days)
But all this $$$ PM is throwing out there it seems daily...billions towards this...millions for that ...more billions for this then more millions for that ....
A total RED TAPE ...situation...apply for this apply for that....
Gov. office wkrs trying to figure it all out....
Just everyday gov. the office wkrs are swamped to keep it all together ....and now all this extra applications / red tape ???? Plus billions and billions of gov spending ???
Does it get put on a future tab for tax payers to pay back ???
Honestly it just seems to me it would be much easier if : 1) no one has to pay mortgages or rent at this time. Freeze till people are allowed to go back to work.
2) free electricity / gas / water ...no property taxes ...etc...till people get back to work.
But homeowners / apts / renters must not abuse consumption ...stay on average of their prior bills.
3) free tv / phone / internet...but extras add to bill only...long distance calls...etc..
4) the only checks the gov. does is Food $$$.
1-2 in family you get this much $$$
3-4 in family you get this much
5-6 you get this much...
Pay via how many are living at that address.
But say a retired person is set up $$$ wise ...then no payment .
People still working no payment.
Feds should just be paying one cheque during this crisis....food $$$ if job is affected.
Other bills above frozen if you lost your job.
Seems more simple...
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What difference?
Blind as usual.
There is no violence by Pro-Choice people in that video!
Never said there was. I said there was madness and hate.
How about you acknowledge the anti-choice movement's decades long history of:
- violence
- murder
- attempted murder
- assault
- intimidation
- harassment &
- fraud
I don't defend extremists, nor are any of the videos I posted about them.
Those videos from the Gun rights protest and Pro life protest are peaceful and have nothing to do with the list you posted
What do you try do hard to prove how blind you are?
and stop try to whitewash it with phony videos
Prove to me they are phony. You can't. They are the truth and we both know that truth doesn't fit the narrative (the same narrative which you also believe and live by)
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RG - many people find the fact that people pack semi-automatic weapons and side arms to political demonstrations sends a signal they aren't interested in a civil exchange of political differences; it's called intimidation.
I don't defend extremists either. In the US the right of a woman's choice to the early termination of her pregnancy is legal and protected by law. The people in that video are demonstrating in the defense of their rights. There is no madness or hate. They are asserting the integrity their own bodies, rather than bowing to the will of an obsolete patriarchy.
Most polls in the US have for years indicated somewhere around 2/3rds or more of US citizens do not want Roe- Wade repealed.
Most polls in the US indicate 60% or so of people want better and more extensive gun control.
Much the same story with Health Care. Most people (like 60%) want a system that offers fair health insurance coverage for all that can't be revoked due to ill health.
Only in a democracy like the US can religious extremists who comprise less than 30% of the population control the political agenda.
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I could not agree more....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
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I could not agree more....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdt_7Vz5Ro
Hear, hear
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Hear, hear
Jane Roe the drug /alcohol abuse gay rights abortion activist ...wrote book : I am Roe.
Did a 180 zoom the other way into the loving forgiving arms of Jesus !!!
She then wrote a book : Won by Love .
Also joined Operation Rescue to save babies from being murdered.
Jim Bakker second wife and present one at strong believer did not know The Lord at one time of course.
All Christians had a conversion at some pt and time.
But she had 3-4-5 abortions ...drugs ....
God can forgive.
Jane Doe said her freedom of choice was the biggest mistake in her life.
Pro life activist later " big time" oh ya !!!
Hear hear......and hear hear.... ;)
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-must-put-an-end-to-privately-owned-long-term-care-homes-singh-1.4931754
after all the lawsuits these long term care homes are going to receive they might have too. might not be a bad idea especially with an aging population.
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-must-put-an-end-to-privately-owned-long-term-care-homes-singh-1.4931754
after all the lawsuits these long term care homes are going to receive they might have too. might not be a bad idea especially with an aging population.
Private run homes in general are non union ...more staff turn arounds...wkr has larger volume of residents to care for so...less time to give each senior.
Gov run ones ...union ...better benefits...1 worker to 5 residents ratio ( something like that ) ...
Instead of 1 wkr to 8-12 residents...
But as if Covid 19 is not enough ....read article about other problems going around ...added to Covid 19.
Dengue spread thru mosquitos is a big problem right now in 10 countries all over the world....
South Asia,Latin America...
Embola in Congo has 3500 cases as of May 5.
Yellow fever in Ethiopia....
Mexico / Burundi measles outbreaks...
Saudia Arabia has MERS...
India and a South Africa has African Swine fever...
In Indonesia hospitals are filled with Covid 19 and the dengue sick people have no place to go..it can be fatal.
As the article said ...it's a good time if your a virus.
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Health Canada accepts antibody testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAGjXjubK9g
COVID 19 SURVEY: http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/covid-19-survey
At the end of the survey you can sign up for the test noted above.
Nog
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Ya Nog more info/testing can give the authorities time to make some sense and see the big picture about this whole Covid 19 problem.
But the experiment to loosen the rules in S Korea did not go so well.
They were so strict with social distancing...testing ...closing schools ...worksites...
Infections dropped.
Then they re-opened night clubs for a weekend...then the next following days cases spiked !!!
Immediately night clubs shut down again.
Who knows ....maybe after a few drinks ...the masks came off and kiss kiss...Covid 19 strikes again.
Our only hope is a vaccine that is at least 80% effective hopefully or else the world we live in is changed forever.
It will always be social distancing....disinfect hands ...maybe even husband and wife sleep in dif rooms if one is in the medical or senior care field....
It's really hard to accept...stressful...no answers in sight....hope for the best...hey kids Dr Henry is on tv for the 10,000th time....
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Infection of dogs with SARS-CoV-2
Two out of fifteen dogs from households with confirmed human cases of COVID-19 in Hong Kong SAR were found to be infected using quantitative RT–PCR, serology, sequencing the viral genome, and in one dog, virus isolation.....
The evidence suggests that these are instances of human-to-animal transmission .
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2334-5
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Health Canada accepts antibody testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAGjXjubK9g
COVID 19 SURVEY: http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/covid-19-survey
At the end of the survey you can sign up for the test noted above.
Nog
Anyone who gets the antibody test, please let us know the results if you feel comfortable sharing. I'd be interested to know if anyone here has had it and not known. Surely plenty of people out there fall into this camp.
At the end of the survey, you fill in your CareCard # and I assume they contact you about the test. I'll let you all know my results either way if I get called in.
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Infection of dogs with SARS-CoV-2
Two out of fifteen dogs from households with confirmed human cases of COVID-19 in Hong Kong SAR were found to be infected using quantitative RT–PCR, serology, sequencing the viral genome, and in one dog, virus isolation.....
The evidence suggests that these are instances of human-to-animal transmission .
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2334-5 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2334-5)
It's been confirmed in cats (including tigers) and ferrets for a few weeks now. This suggests that the transmission from animal to human in the Wuhan live animal market is the origin of the pandemic.
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It's been confirmed in cats (including tigers) and ferrets for a few weeks now. This suggests that the transmission from animal to human in the Wuhan live animal market is the origin of the pandemic.
No, it doesn't. That has been refuted many many times over now.
Reality.
Nog
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Latest article I can find on the origins of the virus:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm
Basically believed to be natural either from a jump directly from an animal host (not a bat but via an intermediate host) or evolved in humans from a previous natural jump and then became pathogenic.
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Does anyone know if the gate of the day use picnic area at Ruskin is open this weekend?
Unrelated to the thread, I know, but didn't want to clutter up the site by starting a new thread with a YES/NO answer. Thanks!
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It’s super busy there even with gate locked, I bet this weekend will be pretty busy.
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No, it doesn't. That has been refuted many many times over now.
Reality.
Nog
Well it's not as if anyone is going to do the experiment to see if it can jump from animals to humans... Wait a minute. Maybe we can kill two fish with one cast. Considering that it is being seriously considered to do controlled human infection experiments to see if vaccines are effective, maybe we should see if a vaccinated person is immune to infection via an infected animal. Maybe you could volunteer if you really believe it's been refuted.
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Not to worry fellow fishermen. Our worries have an answer.
And just like that 17 year old Greta Thunberg goes beyond her flawless knowledge on carbon and climate change and acquires 8 years worth of PhD knowledge in the medical field in just a few short months. Being an expert in climate change was so easy that it must of bored her to death....so she decided to do a 6 month flash PhD specializing in the study of viruses. She literally makes me look back at my high school years and I wonder where I went wrong. How is it that I couldn't become a climate change expert by 16, and then become a medical professional specializing in viruses by age 17? It must be my parents fault. The didn't push me hard enough. I mean....tonnes of people get a PhD in just a few months....right?
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/497555-cnn-to-feature-teen-climate-activist-greta-thunberg-in-coronavirus-town-hall
This is why NO ONE LISTENS OR PAYS ATTENTION TO CNN.....Wake up people.
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Canada is doing a lot better than other hot spot countries.
USA and Brazil have so many infected and 1000s & 1000s in serious condition.
Seen a news report of protestors wanting an end to restrictions in Britain.
The police go in the crowd to break it up or make arrests....but not one police officer had on a mask ???
Today Britain got over 3000 new infections.
Hope Canada keeps the international travel to min.
And closed border with USA maintained till their rates drop to a low level.
Hospital in Abbey has found 5 staff come down with it....
Lots of toilet paper in stores lately...
Also to my surprise bought hand sanitizer ....at London Drugs and at Shoppers Drugs
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Not to worry fellow fishermen. Our worries have an answer.
And just like that 17 year old Greta Thunberg goes beyond her flawless knowledge on carbon and climate change and acquires 8 years worth of PhD knowledge in the medical field in just a few short months. Being an expert in climate change was so easy that it must of bored her to death....so she decided to do a 6 month flash PhD specializing in the study of viruses. She literally makes me look back at my high school years and I wonder where I went wrong. How is it that I couldn't become a climate change expert by 16, and then become a medical professional specializing in viruses by age 17? It must be my parents fault. The didn't push me hard enough. I mean....tonnes of people get a PhD in just a few months....right?
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/497555-cnn-to-feature-teen-climate-activist-greta-thunberg-in-coronavirus-town-hall
This is why NO ONE LISTENS OR PAYS ATTENTION TO CNN.....Wake up people.
.......yep smart driven young women are the biggest threat in the world today,not old white men rallying around a turd in a red tie....some of the best covid responses were/are in countries led by women......you guys better save some of that kool-aid to wash down all that crow and humble pie when the flim flam man's house of cards comes tumbling down...
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I am not sure if that was sarcasm on Greta's becoming PHD in virology or whatever :). Nobody becomes a PHD in 6 months... Only in a make-believe world of media that is a possibility.
And by the way, China's response to Covid is still much much better. And China is lead by a man. A communist kind :)
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Remember, don’t feed the troll.
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I am not sure if that was sarcasm on Greta's becoming PHD in virology or whatever . Nobody becomes a PHD in 6 months... Only in a make-believe world of media that is a possibility.
And by the way, China's response to Covid is still much much better. And China is lead by a man. A communist kind
.......yep smart driven young women are the biggest threat in the world today,not old white men rallying around a turd in a red tie....some of the best covid responses were/are in countries led by women......you guys better save some of that kool-aid to wash down all that crow and humble pie when the flim flam man's house of cards comes tumbling down...
If 'gullible', 'indoctrinated', and 'naive' were a liquid....we'd all drown in here.
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......commies to the left of me, rednecks to the right.....here I am stuck in reality with.....someone I hope....
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Gerry Rafferty couldn’t have said it better himself.
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1000 die everyday in the USA ... from Covid 19.
Here is a good read:
The New York Times
The Moderna Coronivirus vaccine trial shows promising early results.
It's starting a 2 phrase in testing ....then a 3rd.
The first test was really positive..the vaccine gave a good immune response to Covid 19...with no ill effects.
Was on the tv news as well tonight.
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Gerry Rafferty couldn’t have said it better himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQARCB9wKto
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYVR_QhVAAAdiUH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
B.C. has recorded 16 new COVID-19 cases in the 48-hour period between Saturday and Monday, as the province prepares to enter Phase 2 of its pandemic response with a gradual reopening of businesses and services.
16 more people have been diagnosed with COVID-19 in British Columbia, bringing the total to 2,444.
There were eight new cases between Saturday and Sunday, and eight new cases between Sunday and Monday.
Two more people have died in the past 48 hours.
There are 335 active cases in B.C.
47 people are in hospital, 12 of them in the ICU.
1,966 people have recovered.
There are no new community outbreaks.
There are no new outbreaks in long-term care homes.
There are 15 ongoing outbreaks in long-term care homes, and five ongoing outbreaks in acute care facilities.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-19-coronavirus-bc-update-may-18-1.5574734
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More than 100 million people in China's northeast back under lockdown to thwart potential second wave
China's swift and powerful reaction reflects its fear of a second wave after it curbed the virus's spread at great economic and social cost
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/over-100-million-people-in-chinas-northeast-region-are-back-under-lockdown
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China’s president, Xi Jinping, has said his country would support a “comprehensive review” of the Covid-19 pandemic after the outbreak has been brought under control.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/china-facing-pressure-over-covid-19-and-taiwan-at-world-health-assembly
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For so many people in this snowflake progressive left world, when facts don't fit the narrative.....they call you racist.
I'm getting so tired of people using the 'racist' card when someone blames China for all these viruses. They came from China....nowhere else. I don't care that it doesn't fit the agenda's narrative.
FACTS ARE FACTS. Covid-19 came from China.
Okay. Swine flu and Spanish flu came from the U.S.A. Please call them out. Do it in a way that claims your moral superiority and intimates that their culture is flawed.
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2009 swine flu....there is some conflicting information about the very early infections but I dont know enough to say one way or rhe other.
The 1918 spanish flu was different times. Scientists werent trying to be God like they are today.....and its not on that list anyways.
So no calling out white, Christian folks?
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The H2N2 virus that caused the 1957-58 flu pandemic originated in Singapore
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html
The 2009 Swine flu originated in Mexico
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-6-207
The H5N1virus and the 2006 bird flu are the same item and originated in geese in China.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/h5n1-virus.htm
Blame the geese. Maybe Trump will remove geese from the most favoured bird status and stop trading with them? Supposedly like MERs the virus does not spread easily to humans
Porcine Pestivirus which infects many animals both wild and domestic is widly spread around the world though the first reported cases were identified in South Korea.
The Meme is racist and inaccurate.
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Rod, can we have a break from Robert? It's just nonstop tiresome, offensive trolling. It's consistently derailing the conversations and encouraging negative interactions between members. If it were the kind of trolling you do from a boat I'd be more interested in what he has to say...
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Robert_G = SalNam from FlyBC????
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Message boards don't work like that. Just because you don't like what I post, you don't get to hire yourself as a moderator and ban me.
Robert_G from FishingwithRod = Robert_G at FlyBC.
The Nazi mods over there have erased most of the debate topics I posted in though.
Lol. I was once a mod on FlyfishBC. Long time ago. Can't say I remember deleting anyone's posts tho. It was probably the SuperMod.
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Rod, can we have a break from Robert? It's just nonstop tiresome, offensive trolling. It's consistently derailing the conversations and encouraging negative interactions between members. If it were the kind of trolling you do from a boat I'd be more interested in what he has to say...
Ya, I don't think you'll see any relief from Rod. Post counts rule
Fully agree and will withhold food food from the troll.
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Robert_G = SalNam from FlyBC????
Nuggy ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnjoVbEsrMk
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I had to take a step back this afternoon.
It's been a rotten few days and there have been some real-life issues with the whole covid-19 thing that I have let get the better of me.
Regardless of whether or not I agree with what I posted, it was completely unnecessary to post, and I was just venting mostly. The meme wasn't directed at anyone here....it was just letting off steam, but that's no excuse....there is no place for it in this thread...and that doesn't mean it's wrong to post memes or that I won't post them anymore....but this one was unnecessary. I apologize for my actions. As much as I try to show truth to people from time to time here.....I went way too far with this. I'm disappointed in myself and again....I need to use more discretion at times...and perhaps on days like this just not post at all.
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I had to take a step back this afternoon.
It's been a rotten few days and there have been some real-life issues with the whole covid-19 thing that I have let get the better of me.
Regardless of whether or not I agree with what I posted, it was completely unnecessary to post, and I was just venting mostly. The meme wasn't directed at anyone here....it was just letting off steam, but that's no excuse....there is no place for it in this thread...and that doesn't mean it's wrong to post memes or that I won't post them anymore....but this one was unnecessary. I apologize for my actions. As much as I try to show truth to people from time to time here.....I went way too far with this. I'm disappointed in myself and again....I need to use more discretion at times...and perhaps on days like this just not post at all.
👍...Good on you, take 'er easy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnjoVbEsrMk
So are you returning the money that you're receiving ?
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I had to take a step back this afternoon.
It's been a rotten few days and there have been some real-life issues with the whole covid-19 thing that I have let get the better of me.
Regardless of whether or not I agree with what I posted, it was completely unnecessary to post, and I was just venting mostly. The meme wasn't directed at anyone here....it was just letting off steam, but that's no excuse....there is no place for it in this thread...and that doesn't mean it's wrong to post memes or that I won't post them anymore....but this one was unnecessary. I apologize for my actions. As much as I try to show truth to people from time to time here.....I went way too far with this. I'm disappointed in myself and again....I need to use more discretion at times...and perhaps on days like this just not post at all.
......easy to trip over the line in an anonymous setting such as this....good on you for realizing you did...
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With the coming lessening of restrictions in pubs restaurants etc...in 1-2 weeks afterwords my guess there is going to be a gradual spike in cases.
Then possibly in a month or two a big rise in cases.
Waitress or waiters have to get close to customers...
Plus the dishes /spoons/forks ...being washed in hot soapy bleach water ?
Setting the table with silverware...wearing gloves...how often does waiter put on new pair of gloves?
Will BC still do lots of testing...
Or is it just too costly to do random tests by the 1000s daily.
Test given when people say they do not feel well....
One lady on the news told of catching Covid ...she's 98% recovered by still is down emotionally plus has this huge rash on her back.
She is warning that this Covid is no joke.
"Be careful"...she is advocating.
Good stats put up by Nog.
Checked in here later today ...and seen ya all must of had a lively debate.
Well Robert and I are not perfect......mere humans ( though forgiven humans ;D )......to be human is to err!!!
If a person is 90 and above....guess they do not care as much as they know their time is coming sooner than later....but 90 and below people in their 60s 70s 80s have still lots of living to do !!!
Our local Richmond free newspaper has a message for people to discard their masks/gloves in the trash...
Better yet in a small plastic bag and then into the trash / garbage cans.
Too much masks are just thrown on the ground /sidewalk ???
Why?
Do not think they were attacked in some way and the mask then was forced off their face....
Seen 15-20 masks on the ground ...at least...
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With the coming lessening of restrictions in pubs restaurants etc...in 1-2 weeks afterwords my guess there is going to be a gradual spike in cases.
Then possibly in a month or two a big rise in cases.
Waitress or waiters have to get close to customers...
Plus the dishes /spoons/forks ...being washed in hot soapy bleach water ?
Setting the table with silverware...wearing gloves...how often does waiter put on new pair of gloves?
Will BC still do lots of testing...
Or is it just too costly to do random tests by the 1000s daily.
Test given when people say they do not feel well....
One lady on the news told of catching Covid ...she's 98% recovered by still is down emotionally plus has this huge rash on her back.
She is warning that this Covid is no joke.
"Be careful"...she is advocating.
Good stats put up by Nog.
Checked in here later today ...and seen ya all must of had a lively debate.
Well Robert and I are not perfect......mere humans ( though forgiven humans ;D )......to be human is to err!!!
If a person is 90 and above....guess they do not care as much as they know their time is coming sooner than later....but 90 and below people in their 60s 70s 80s have still lots of living to do !!!
Our local Richmond free newspaper has a message for people to discard their masks/gloves in the trash...
Better yet in a small plastic bag and then into the trash / garbage cans.
Too much masks are just thrown on the ground /sidewalk ???
Why?
Do not think they were attacked in some way and the mask then was forced off their face....
Seen 15-20 masks on the ground ...at least...
Who cares
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Who cares
Really?
A bit of a ramble by AB but a somewhat reasonable ramble.
When it comes to some of the points he makes.. we should all care!
It's normal to wonder if proper procedures and practices are in place at bars and eating establishments.. if there will be a second wave... how will testing happen etc.. all reasonable thoughts.
For everybody sake, people should care and not be just tossing masks on the ground.....ffs
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Who cares about used gloves and masks thrown on the ground ? Me, that’s who. Disgusting and dangerous.
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Who cares
He writes "two words"
My post many words....
Guess he thinks his words are equal to God Almighty.
Have you ever heard of facilitate ?
That means look for the positive and create communication.
Words like those ...will kill this forum if too many went that route.
I've tried to create or spark comments but many kill it by their sometimes personal attacks or comments like this.
If you get Covid 19 you will look back and say....gee guess I should of cared.
Covid is out there ....Hike Fish but it's invisible right ...so your brain goes "who cares" ...that's why your an easily deceived person.
Ya think ya know it all but ya know squat !!!
See other members care ;D
Not you because your a spoiled brat "possibly"
Who cares ?
Guess we cheer on the doctors nurses care aids nightly for no reason?
Bird with head in the sand. ( bet you do not believe in hell either...that's for free )
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People litter all the time. I don't but lots of people do. All of a sudden you folks decided to take a stand against littering ? Comical
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The question Will COVID-19 Shut Down Fishing Opportunities
The answer seems to be only if you let it and follow the rules
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He writes "two words"
My post many words....
Guess he thinks his words are equal to God Almighty.
Have you ever heard of facilitate ?
That means look for the positive and create communication.
Words like those ...will kill this forum if too many went that route.
I've tried to create or spark comments but many kill it by their sometimes personal attacks or comments like this.
If you get Covid 19 you will look back and say....gee guess I should of cared.
Covid is out there ....Hike Fish but it's invisible right ...so your brain goes "who cares" ...that's why your an easily deceived person.
Ya think ya know it all but ya know squat !!!
See other members care ;D
Not you because your a spoiled brat "possibly"
Who cares ?
Guess we cheer on the doctors nurses care aids nightly for no reason?
Bird with head in the sand. ( bet you do not believe in hell either...that's for free )
Rod’s right, there’s something seriously wrong with you. Keep bringing up God, devil, hell when everyone has stopped giving a rat my friend about it. Ban the idiot already.
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Rod’s right, there’s something seriously wrong with you. Keep bringing up God, devil, hell when everyone has stopped giving a rat my friend about it. Ban the idiot already.
Regardless of what you might think, there is no excuse to talk to or about anyone in that manner. You expect tolerance? It goes both ways.
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People litter all the time. I don't but lots of people do. All of a sudden you folks decided to take a stand against littering ? Comical
All of a sudden? Lots of people here, myself included, show up to river cleanup days. We pick up discarded garbage when we're out fishing. We drag shopping carts and garbage bags out of the woods and put them by the trash cans (I'm sure the city maintenance people love that ::)). We donate money to environmental causes, like LEPS. We contribute to waterway restoration and rehabilitation. We document and report homeless camps to the city. We bring up issues like pallet fires in fishing forums to remind people about the litter it causes.
Nothing about any of this is "all of a sudden"... we've always cared :-*
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All of a sudden? Lots of people here, myself included, show up to river cleanup days. We pick up discarded garbage when we're out fishing. We drag shopping carts and garbage bags out of the woods and put them by the trash cans (I'm sure the city maintenance people love that ::)). We donate money to environmental causes, like LEPS. We contribute to waterway restoration and rehabilitation. We document and report homeless camps to the city. We bring up issues like pallet fires in fishing forums to remind people about the litter it causes.
Nothing about any of this is "all of a sudden"... we've always cared :-*
And how has the government rewarded this behaviour in terms of access to the resources you spent countless hours protecting.
Should send them an invoice
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Rod’s right, there’s something seriously wrong with you. Keep bringing up God, devil, hell when everyone has stopped giving a rat my friend about it. Ban the idiot already.
Notice ya did not say anything about " Who cares"
As far as that comment ..it's only 1% of my responding post and it's in brackets. So don't focus on it.
Focus on the other 99% of my comment.
Blood Orange Robert G Iblly bobby b have it right.
So why is there a paid ad in the newspaper warning people not to trash their masks onto the ground /sidewalk ....??? Because kids may grab touch the discarded masks....remember this virus survives for many days on surfaces.
Anyways that's how I see it.
Try to belittle me...try to put me down...bottom line friend I am no better or less than any member.
Everyone of us are equal because God made us...
We all are special. If you want to believe in apes as uncle ...that's your choice.
But to say Who cares ?
That kills communication.
Facilitate buddy.
As experts in communication say: there is no stupid question
Why do they say that?
Because they want people to not be scared to give their thoughts /questions....that is how we all learn.
I HAVE SPOKEN. 8) ;D
Do not put people down just because ya are looking to be negative hateful.
Who are you ? The King ...go look in the mirror...
Honestly we all should look in the mirror daily....it would keep us all humble.
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Rod’s right, there’s something seriously wrong with you. Keep bringing up God, devil, hell when everyone has stopped giving a rat my friend about it. Ban the idiot already.
I'm with you on this!!! He has to be mentally disabled to keep doing it. Oh I now see god in the latest reply, no god didn't make us, we evolved. Look up Darwin and the theory of evolution
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I'm with you on this!!! He has to be mentally disabled to keep doing it. Oh I now see god in the latest reply, no god didn't make us, we evolved. Look up Darwin and the theory of evolution
What does it say about the people that keep reading it?
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You guys are going around in circles...different pile, same sht. Every time I come on to see if anything new and useful is being posted, all I see are the same people going back and forth debating over personal views that won't change because of personal beliefs. ffs enough already and start your own topic under 'Religion and Politics'...and give the rest of us a break.
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And how has the government rewarded this behaviour in terms of access to the resources you spent countless hours protecting.
Should send them an invoice
I think invoicing for volunteer work would be inappropriate :P
All outdoor users should do their part. That can mean picking up some garbage, donating some money, or donating some time. You use it, you help maintain it.
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People litter all the time. I don't but lots of people do. All of a sudden you folks decided to take a stand against littering ? Comical
You want possibly infected gloves and masks discarded in your neighborhood ?
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Mentally disabled, mentally challenged...
Maybe the saying is right ‘Takes one to know one’ Lol
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I think invoicing for volunteer work would be inappropriate :P
All outdoor users should do their part. That can mean picking up some garbage, donating some money, or donating some time. You use it, you help maintain it.
This comment reminds me of a friend that lives in a strata. Their strata decided that instead of hiring a company to maintain the gardens and grass they were going to do it themselves.
a couple months into it it was the same few people doing all the volunteer work for the 200+ people that lived in the complex.
neeedless to say they went back to hiring a company to do it.
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Reading these posts as I sit on my boat makes me chuckle. You people need to go out and fish. Get outside. Whining like babies.
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And how has the government rewarded this behaviour in terms of access to the resources you spent countless hours protecting.
Should send them an invoice
there is more than one kind of access & one user group. Even within the angling user group, when it comes to access, some folks just think in terms of one; salmon anglers. All user groups benefit from this sort of non-monetary work.
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Reading these posts as I sit on my boat makes me chuckle. You people need to go out and fish. Get outside. Whining like babies.
Gee the guy who started the fire storm ...with "Who cares?" comes up with...we all need to go out and fish.
Well it's at least more than two words....and ya know ...go out and fish OK ...
Good idea !
Have rod will travel ....locally that is. :)
Ya all you ya who's whining ....get your rod and go fishing .......
And if I ever get another ...Who cares ? reply....I'm going ...going ....well going...to " pray for you" ya that's what I'll do.
Back to Covid and how it affects our lives including fishing activities....something like that...
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This comment reminds me of a friend that lives in a strata. Their strata decided that instead of hiring a company to maintain the gardens and grass they were going to do it themselves.
a couple months into it it was the same few people doing all the volunteer work for the 200+ people that lived in the complex.
neeedless to say they went back to hiring a company to do it.
That's just a bad plan, lol.
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Gee the guy who started the fire storm ...with "Who cares?" comes up with...we all need to go out and fish.
Well it's at least more than two words....and ya know ...go out and fish OK ...
Good idea !
Have rod will travel ....locally that is. :)
Ya all you ya who's whining ....get your rod and go fishing .......
And if I ever get another ...Who cares ? reply....I'm going ...going ....well going...to " pray for you" ya that's what I'll do.
Back to Covid and how it affects our lives including fishing activities....something like that...
Well it’s pretty clear what u are, nothing but a my smelly socks disturber lol... you’re not a true Christian, stop giving me a bad name. Either that or ur just so clueless and don’t know when to stop like what rod said
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you’re not a true Christian
You have no idea what you are talking about. Like I did yesterday.....this is where you take a step back and realized that you went too far.
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Who are you to say I don’t know what I’m talking about lol... we know a troll when we see/read one. You’re one too, pretending to preach in one post while bashing others in another. Not Christian.
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Who are you to say I don’t know what I’m talking about lol... we know a troll when we see/read one. You’re one too, pretending to preach in one post while bashing others in another. Not Christian.
Hey big fish ok have it your way ...no problem...Robert G and I yours truly ...are not true Christians.
So....let 's take the advice of Hike and fish ....take up our rod and go fishing.
In my private life will fish for fish and go fishing for souls ....best of both worlds.
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Good that you’re finally getting it. Real Christians don’t go around and blabber about their faith non stop. 😘
You’ll be reminded cos by tmr you’ll be back to your old habit again
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Good that you’re finally getting it. Real Christians don’t go around and blabber about their faith non stop. 😘
You’ll be reminded cos by tmr you’ll be back to your old habit again
And just like that, you became a theology expert. If you don't think we're Christians, why don't you tell us how one gets into heaven? You seem so sure that A-Boater and I won't make it there....enlighten us...What can we do to be good enough for God to let us in?
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Let’s see what you got Big Fish lol
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And just like that, you became a theology expert. If you don't think we're Christians, why don't you tell us how one gets into heaven? You seem so sure that A-Boater and I won't make it there....enlighten us...What can we do to be good enough for God to let us in?
Quit posting for a start. :D
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And just like that, you became a theology expert. If you don't think we're Christians, why don't you tell us how one gets into heaven? You seem so sure that A-Boater and I won't make it there....enlighten us...What can we do to be good enough for God to let us in?
Maybe go fishing and stop posting on here.
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Maybe someone should buy the fishingwithgod.com domain. Seems there is a market for arguing who is the better Christian and y'all can talk fishin as well.
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Maybe someone should buy the fishingwithgod.com domain. Seems there is a market for arguing who is the better Christian and y'all can talk fishin as well.
Looks like fishingwithgod.com has been bought by a domain squatter and they're asking $2995 USD for it. Darn, there goes my investment opportunity.
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Hail Satan
Covid 19 ( experts & media mis spell this virus ...should be spelt Corvid 19 ::) )
Restrictions in our communities are getting less and less...but please keep the strict measures.
6ft distance...hand washing and hand sanitizer ...zinc...vit C & D is a good idea to take extra of.
Listerine (original ) before and after going into a store or public place.
The ones that are very serious to be so careful and take this virus seriously is those who have had it and recovered or those who lost a loved one.
There are so many vids you can check out of those who tell their own story ....getting sick and recovering.
Youtube: I was literally fighting for my life. One survivor story from ICU . Corvid diaries Ep.9
Youtube: Coronavirus survivor : I've been to hell and back.
Well not hell itself..he is meaning it was so terrible it was like hell....
But yes check out Covid 19 recovery stories.
Also on youtube so so many stories of those who lost a loved one.
....so AW wants to make comment ....hail satan.
Either you mean that or you are just saying it in a mocking way.
You would be very surprised how many who willingly are believing and following the devil.
Some heavy metal bands are totally into satanic stuff. The members say they believe in the power of darkness.
Did you hear about the heavy metal band drummer Will Carroll member of Death Angel who got very sick with Covid 19. He was very near death. His family was praying like crazy for him.
Doctors thought he was not going to make it.
He pulled thru !!!
The crazy part is he claims he exited his body and zoomed into hell...and seen the devil !!!
Now that he's given a 2nd chance he now believe's there is a God and a real devil.
Stories like this.....are not uncommon...
Ariana Grande told of a demon attacking her...( google it )
Pop Evil rock star cast out a demon from his brother after they used an ouija board...
I've encounter a few times demonic attacks...and it is scary ;D
Good part is ya just have to command the demon to go in Jesus name & zoom they take off.
Anyone experiencing sleep paralysis ...it's demonic...check out those on youtube telling their experiences....they say it's scary !!!
So.....if your smart....instead of saying Hail satan ya should say : PTL.
That means: Praise The Lord !
Get on the winning side...God is a billion x more powerful than satan...
God is just letting people decide for themselves ....
For Robert and my house we will serve The Lord.
Also the housing market is terrible ....people afraid to buy...experts saying prices may drop by 20-25 %.
And if things do not improve ...how low will prices go down.
Many who bought high and have lowest down payment may just walk away ...
This means ...owner will lose their down payment...their monthly payments...their dream of owning.
But are they going to pay for a $1.3 million dollar home/townhouse / 3 bedrm apt ....that is 20-25% less worth than when they bought just 3-4 yrs ago???
Most must have hope though....as a vaccine will bring back the economy .....and Vancouver area real estate prices back to their normal....kinda like the stock market goes up and down.
Stay safe out there.
Virus is lurking !!!
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Dear God, let me catch a fish tomorrow.
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Dear Rod, let me catch a fish tomorrow.
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Sometimes you can take 'good intent' and turn it into mockery. Even when you profess the truth.
You can till the soil and plant the seed, but if you over water what you've sown, the seed will die.
This is intended for those who know where I'm coming from. Know when to stop because the only one winning is the one who wants to destroy all that is good.
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...and sometimes the seeds fall on hard ground, or birds eat the seeds, but sometimes the seeds fall on fertile ground and grow.
Nice one blydrunner
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Sometimes you can take 'good intent' and turn it into mockery. Even when you profess the truth.
You can till the soil and plant the seed, but if you over water what you've sown, the seed will die.
This is intended for those who know where I'm coming from. Know when to stop because the only one winning is the one who wants to destroy all that is good.
I was going to back off on this subject, but I'm not going to ignore this post because it's dead wrong and it's unbiblical.
I know the parable you are referring to and not only that parable, but you can read the the entire bible and it makes NO reference or analogy to 'overwatering' (over proclaiming the Word of God or over-witnessing to someone) anywhere
There is nothing worse than when someone makes 'changes' or 'additions' to scripture passage to make a point.....which is exactly what you are doing.
I will explain the parable to you.
It's all about the 'soil'
The person (soil) either receives the seed (Word of God) or not. There is NO such thing or reference in scripture about overwatering (over proclaiming the Word of God or over-witnessing to someone)
What the bible does teach is that EVERYONE'S blood is on their own head. If you go to hell when you die, the bible clearly teaches that you and you alone are to blame for rejecting God. No conservative biblical scholar or theologian in the world is going to argue with that. The Word of God NEVER comes back void.
Overwater......give me a break.
...and sometimes the seeds fall on hard ground, or birds eat the seeds, but sometimes the seeds fall on fertile ground and grow.
Thank you.....nice and simple....straight to the point....just as the parable was meant to be taught.
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I was going to back off on this subject, but I'm not going to ignore this post because it's dead wrong and it's unbiblical.
There is nothing worse than when someone makes 'changes' or 'additions' to scripture passage to make a point.....which is exactly what you are doing.
There's nothing worse than a proclaimed Christian who takes a personal blessing and criticizes it to a point of scrutiny. If you understood what a blessing is, you would also understand that each scripture is meant to provide each individual with meaning that suit their need to get them over a trial or tribulation. The words of scripture become useless if you fail to understand it's purpose by defining it like it's nothing more than English Literature.
I wasn't quoting the bible...I was sharing what an elder told me during my troubled youth. A piece of advice parable to more than one scripture (as you should know)...spoken in a way that I understood...not in a way that enticed resentment or argument. Who are you to pass judgement?
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By the way RG... in English Grammar, '....' , or "...." represents a quote. Don't be such an idiot by demeaning something I hold close to my heart. I've never insulted you in any way...how about you returning the courtesy?
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By the way RG... in English Grammar, '....' , or "...." represents a quote. Don't be such an idiot by demeaning something I hold close to my heart. I've never [/b]insulted you in any way...how about you returning the courtesy?
;D ;D ;D You just called him an idiot.
This thread has turned into some pretty good cheap entertainment.
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This threads like a car wreck, ya can’t help but look.
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This threads like a car wreck, ya can’t help but look.
Nah, this thread turned into a joke. I can't believe I got sucked into posting something that I thought would help mediate a level of truce. I'm the biggest idiot and fool.
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Dear God, let me catch a fish tomorrow.
Take Will Carroll of Death Angel with you.
You FA can explain your 2 cents ....and then let him set you straight with his $1 Million Dollars of reality.
He seen hell and the devil.
Even the game you like the CFL ...at the end of each contest has players from each team go to the centre of the field hold hands in a circle and they say a prayer.
Why do they do that FA ? Are they nuts ?
Will Carrol before he got Covid 19 was Mr Party Man but after his coma experience where he exited his body and seen HELL and the devil !!! ......is a changed person.
You pride yourself in catching fish...
The devil prides himself in his fishing skills too.
You net in the fish ....very good FA !!!
Watch out satan is netting his fish ( souls too )
There's a big river of life.....Jesus has His lure in the water ...The Gospel message on the hook...
Satan on the other side of the river with his buddies have baited their hooks ...with deception / lies / sin /pride / ......unbelief ....
They have been fishing for centuries ...Jesus has a very big pile of sheep fish.....but the devil and his demon buddies have a mountain sized pile of goat fish !!!
Seems for every soul Jesus hooks reels in and lands....the devil and his demon friends are reeling in 10x more at least !!!!
The pile must be as high as Mt Everest 28,000 ft high ;D
Gee one goat fish got away ...he was hooked good ....now Will Carroll was hooked and reeled in & is in the sheep fish pile !!! Satan nearly had him ....how did he get away ?
Will Carroll the heavy metal drummer ....is like the thief on the cross.
He got a second chance in life.
Will Carroll Robert G and yours truly ...many others are trying to sound the warning....do not take the devil 's bait .
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Take Will Carroll of Death Angel with you.
You FA can explain your 2 cents ....and then let him set you straight with his $1 Million Dollars of reality.
He seen hell and the devil.
Even the game you like the CFL ...at the end of each contest has players from each team go to the centre of the field hold hands in a circle and they say a prayer.
Why do they do that FA ? Are they nuts ?
Will Carrol before he got Covid 19 was Mr Party Man but after his coma experience where he exited his body and seen HELL and the devil !!! ......is a changed person.
You pride yourself in catching fish...
The devil prides himself in his fishing skills too.
You net in the fish ....very good FA !!!
Watch out satan is netting his fish ( souls too )
There's a big river of life.....Jesus has His lure in the water ...The Gospel message on the hook...
Satan on the other side of the river with his buddies have baited their hooks ...with deception / lies / sin /pride / ......unbelief ....
They have been fishing for centuries ...Jesus has a very big pile of sheep fish.....but the devil and his demon buddies have a mountain sized pile of goat fish !!!
Seems for every soul Jesus hooks reels in and lands....the devil and his demon friends are reeling in 10x more at least !!!!
The pile must be as high as Mt Everest 28,000 ft high ;D
Gee one goat fish got away ...he was hooked good ....now Will Carroll was hooked and reeled in & is in the sheep fish pile !!! Satan nearly had him ....how did he get away ?
Will Carroll the heavy metal drummer ....is like the thief on the cross.
He got a second chance in life.
Will Carroll Robert G and yours truly ...many others are trying to sound the warning....do not take the devil 's bait.
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Even the game you like the CFL ...at the end of each contest has players from each team go to the centre of the field hold hands in a circle and they say a prayer.
Why do they do that FA ? Are they nuts ?
If the truth be known, the players are discussing where to go for their post game meal.
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It seems to me you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole. Let's review what you said.
You say you weren't quoting scripture but you were definitely trying to be biblical. A the end of the day it's very much the same thing.
Sometimes you can take 'good intent' and turn it into mockery. Even when you profess the truth.
You can't turn God's Word into mockery when you are proclaiming the truth about scripture....period
You can till the soil and plant the seed, but if you over water what you've sown, the seed will die.
This is intended for those who know where I'm coming from. Know when to stop because the only one winning is the one who wants to destroy all that is good.
Again....you say you weren't quoting scripture, but I know exactly where this comes from and regardless....you were trying to sound biblical, and not only that, but you are assuming that we are going to destroy all that good by witnessing and proclaiming God's Word. Again.....false biblical teaching. What you are implying directly contradicts scripture and I won't let it just fall under the rug from someone (you) who claims to be a Christian.
This is intended for those who know where I'm coming from.
'Those' means plural, so I'm pretty sure you are at least referring to me and A-Boater. Again....you are implying we are doing something that will destroy all that is good by overwatering (over witnessing).
Let me quote Paul for you:
1 Corinthians 9:16
16 "For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for I am under compulsion; for woe is me if I do not preach the gospel."
Do you know what it means to be under compulsion to preach the gospel? I don't think you do, because if you did you wouldn't be accusing us of 'overwatering'. You can look through these teachings till the cows come home. Overwatering (overwitnessing/overproclaiming God's word) does not exist anywhere in the bible....but you are clearly accusing myself and A-Boater of doing that, so yeah....you are going to get a reaction from me on that.
The only scripture in the entire bible that even mildly suggests what you are implying we did, is when Jesus said to not throw your pearls to the swine. I noticed you did not call anyone here out as swine. You wouldn't do that. Truth is there are both people here taking in what we are witnessing/proclaiming in (receptive hearts), and there are those (swine) who will just mock and ridicule us. It's not different than preaching in a church. Both types of people are sitting in the pews. That being said....A-boater and I are not doing anything that God would not want us to do. I hope you come to see that as truth.
There's nothing worse than a proclaimed Christian who takes a personal blessing and criticizes it to a point of scrutiny. If you understood what a blessing is, you would also understand that each scripture is meant to provide each individual with meaning that suit their need to get them over a trial or tribulation.
Partially true. A personal blessing doesn't have to be biblical, but the problem here is that you used a 'personal blessing' to argue against a 'biblical truth'...you intentionally tried to make A-boater and me look bad...and you did it by using a personal blessing that doesn't exist in scripture...even worse that same so called blessing actually contradicts scripture....and then you use that same so called blessing to contradict scripture yourself to intentionally make other Christians look bad. THAT is unbiblical. I'm shocked you would do that.
you would also understand that each scripture is meant to provide each individual with meaning that suit their need to get them over a trial or tribulation.
Now you're scaring me. Scripture is NOT a salad bar. Again....no true biblical teacher is ever going to agree that you get to pick and choose what each scripture means. Like you said, it may give each individual a different perspective or insight on how to get through a trial or tribulation, but scripture always 'means' what it means. There are no different interpretations for different people. You'd fail bible college if you ever said that.
The words of scripture become useless if you fail to understand it's purpose by defining it like it's nothing more than English Literature.
Yeah....I didn't do that. I understand and have no problem accepting the actual truth that scripture is trying to teach. I'm not the one who turned it into a salad bar.
I wasn't quoting the bible..
Alright. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it matters not, you tried to use what you said in a biblical context and instead ended up contradicting scripture. That's all that matters.
I wasn't quoting the bible...I was sharing what an elder told me during my troubled youth. A piece of advice parable to more than one scripture (as you should know)...spoken in a way that I understood...not in a way that enticed resentment or argument. Who are you to pass judgement?
It was bad advice and it was unbiblical advice that goes against what scripture teaches.
I also had my share of 'well meaning' elders and youth pastors/leaders with good intentions when I was a teen too, and I also had my share of elders and youth/pastors leaders who gave me the rock solid hell, fire, and brimstone truth about what Christianity is and how THAT related to whatever I was going through at the time. Looking back decades later, which ones do you think I respect the most? The ones who told me the TRUTH.
Well meaning elders, pastors, or any one else who confesses to be a Christian who tell you what you want to hear to make you feel good.... they are deceiving you....they are lying to you....and they are corrupting you with false teaching....and they are a dime a dozen. I can assure you that if that elder actually took scripture (or multiple scriptures) and added, adjusted, or changed the meaning to make you feel better....I don't care how good his intentions were.....he's going to answer to God for corrupting you with false teachings. The bible has 100s of warnings to anyone who deliberately teaches scripture in a way that diverts from it's intended meaning.
By the way RG... in English Grammar, '....' , or "...." represents a quote.
Really???
Don't be such an idiot
Did you just call me an 'idiot'?
Don't be such an idiot by demeaning something I hold close to my heart. I've never insulted you in any way...how about you returning the courtesy?
I'm confused. Why would something that is unbiblical be so close to your heart? When someone who claims to be a Christian tries to edify me with a false teaching about scripture, I trash it out my mind instantaneously.
Don't be such an idiot by demeaning something I hold close to my heart. I've never insulted you in any way...how about you returning the courtesy?
You just insulted me. I didn't call you an 'idiot'. Which one of us should really be upset?
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Nah, this thread turned into a joke. I can't believe I got sucked into posting something that I thought would help mediate a level of truce. I'm the biggest idiot and fool.
What do you think is going to happen when you try to mediate a level of truce into a biblical discussion when you are the one contradicting scripture with unbiblical teachings????
I mean....really think about it.
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Yep you’re not self righteous at all 🤣🤣🤣
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Every bible is missing one page ....
The one that states ..
"The events and characters depicted in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
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Every bible is missing one page ....
The one that states ..
"The events and characters depicted in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
;D ;D
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Every bible is missing one page ....
The one that states ..
"The events and characters depicted in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
I am afraid that is not the case.
There is evidentiary support for the existence for some of the people and events in both testaments.
However, I am not saying this supports some of the fundamental claims made by Judaism or Christianity.
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Every bible is missing one page ....
The one that states ..
"The events and characters depicted in this book are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
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That last post by Robert was painful to read. Again, I can’t imagine living with someone who’s constantly telling you what you think or know by hanging that fictional book over your head. What a unhappy life lol
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I am afraid that is not the case.
There is evidentiary support for the existence for some of the people and events in both testaments.
However, I am not saying this supports some of the fundamental claims made by Judaism or Christianity.
It's been a while since Ralph and I have agreed on something, but he's correct.
The fundamental claims of the existence of God because we can't physically prove His existence will of course always cause debate
But even on the secular level in intellectual debate, you won't find any self respecting historian deny the existence of Jesus....or many others in the bible as well as many events that took place.
That last post by Robert was painful to read.
And yet here you are....and of course you did read it.
Again, I can’t imagine living with someone who’s constantly telling you what you think or know by hanging that fictional book over your head. What a unhappy life lol
1.We've already established that it's not a fictional book.
2. It was my wife (as well as others) that encouraged me to become the Christian I am today. God did the work of course. You have no idea the blessings that come with a marriage where both the man and the woman are devoted Christians. Not a perfect marriage by any means, but you'll never understand as long you live in your rebellion.
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That last post by Robert was painful to read. Again, I can’t imagine living with someone who’s constantly telling you what you think or know by hanging that fictional book over your head. What a unhappy life lol
Well big fish Robert is not unhappy.
He is very blessed and has a peace that is beyond understanding. He has love joy peace...
An obedient Christian ( not doing willful sinning ) who prays reads word trust in The Lord ( without faith "trusting" it is impossible to please The Lord ...Hebrews ch 11) praising / worshipping from the heart...
( those that worship The Lord must worship Him in spirit & truth ...sincerely. )
Then God's Presence ( Annointing ) will be upon him....
Where the Spirit of The Lord is there is liberty !!!
Light bulb....no electricity...no light.
Light bulb with electricity ...the room is lit up ...no darkness.
Ok granted when the average joe blow hears the gospel or religious info there is a knee jeck re action...bull crap...look at all these JWs knocking on doors ...Mormons knocking on doors...standing by a bank with the Watchtower mag. or dozens of Christian denominations ...Baptist Lutherans Pentacostal on & on....plus all the greedy bad example evangelists.
Then comes all the other isms....major religions....
They all have their hand up in the air !!! We have the truth or more truth than the other church....
Then we have the major master minds who bring the almighty truth and facts in their own minds ...EVOLUTION ... No God did not create humans....what happened was...they say ...billions of years ..from swamp ..to crawly ..to apes cave people to humans ( gee if we came from apes ...why is there still apes ? Should there only be people. Why did some apes evolve to people /other apes stay apes ? )
Check out youtube vid: God of Wonders 2009 documentary.
Shows universe stars planets sea fish animals birds nature snowflake so on and men of science will conclude there is a God behind it all.
But with all those loud voices screaming they have the special "truth" join us ...( come in the door ..how are you? We are now going to brainwash & program you into one of us...and in a month's time you will give us a % of your $ & your free time...you will have to come to meetings 2x a week ...are you not excited !!! Then we will expect you to go out and brainwash ...pardon me ...I mean enlighten your relatives and friends & we can be one big happy family !!! Oh do you have your check book with you..Cash credit card.....)
No wonder most are scared to check into religious things ;D
That is why I keep it simple and non threatening or scary...
That's why when sharing about the gospel ...I share that they do not have to attend any church ever if they do not want to ...or give $$$ .
I do not want their name phone # or address.
My only purpose is the Titanic is sinking ..and point the passengers to a lifeboat that still has room.
Jesus is that lifeboat.
I know 1000% that there is a real Jesus / a devil/demons and heaven or hell.
How do I know 1000% ????
Ok I heard about Jesus message as to grade 7 attended a Christian school.
If you asked me at a young age do you believe in Jesus....my answer would of been Oh yes .
Why?
Well because my school and church told me.
Youngsters believe what they are told by authorities.....teachers pastors priests...
But when I was in the government school system in latter 60's ..high school in early 70's...well there was pot,alcohol,girls...Rolling Stones and 30 and more other top top rock bands....Beatles ...let's put it this way...If it felt good Do it. No rules .
My teacher's and pastor/priest blah blah ...was " Well who knows? Are they right ? Maybe they are wrong.
I did not believe it or dis believe the gospel....it was more of ....I'm not sure.
I have to think for myself and not let others tell me what to believe in.
So....in 1973 was in Williams Lk for the summer break from high school ( Centennial High School Coquitlam ) and got a 2 month job working at a sawmill.
Honestly should not of landed that job because mills were laying off workers !!!
Exports were slow to the USA at that time.
It was while there ...living in a tent..piling lumber in the mill ....1 week dayshift...1 week afternoon shift....eating pork & beans from can...sardines...brown bread...peanut butter...
But had lots of time to think...after my 8 hr shift.... Friends parents relatives 100s of miles away.
Many times I would think ....Is this Jesus and Holy Bible fact or BS ???
How can I know one way or other ?
I do not want a hope so faith.
Or pull at the straws faith.
Maybe it's real.
Guessing game or assuming it's fact.
If I was to really believe I wanted a KNOW SO faith.
Was puzzled how to go about it.
Then on a Sat. the first weekend of August in that tent about 9pm ....got an idea.
Hey it says we can talk to God. Pray to Him. Well that's communication. Like a hot line to God.
In communication a person can say something or ask a question.
Hey...why do I not just ask Jesus directly if He really exists !!!
Got the idea that the tent is not a special place to ask...should be near the church building...
So off I went...about a 20 minute fast jog. ( McKenize Ave )
There's the cemetery ...there's the hospital over there...over this way a church.
Door locked ..no problem.
On my knees ..Told God I'm not some holy guy or anything...but if He is real will You show me.
( not crazy ...not on drugs or on a high.....)
After the prayer....from my heart directed to the Godhead Father Jesus Holy Spirit 3 in 1 Trinity...Triune
Creator ....God of the Holy Bible....literally a supernatural encounter !!!
His Presence was so intense ...it freaked me right out so to express....better way to say it is ...over welling.
Who am I to be having this encounter with the living God.
As His Presence was there ...I kept my eyes closed for the most part ...because honestly my heart was beating quickly. Guess it's just the awe of it all....His Almighty ness and my smallness in comparison.
I mean what does God and I have in common...
What do ya do at a moment like that? Hey God thanks for showing up. Do ya want to drink a beer with me ?
Anyways I prayed ...ok Thank You Your real....now would You now go away !!!
Zoom the Presence of God left as requested.
Well I can tell you from that point and time it was no more a Wonder if God is real?
It was I know He is real.
Now I believed that book from cover to cover.
So...if you are having any questions or thoughts that the gospel is real....just go to Him.
Have a heart talk with God.
He truly is the Maker the Creator...best thing He loves and forgives.
Like how ya love your dog ....that's how God loves you.
In Romans it says....Who ever calls on the name of The Lord shall be saved !!!
That's all I'm hoping for you...go to Him.
( not trying to force you to a church or give $$$ or get brainwashed ha! )
Plus heaven will be your home....and free yourself from the spider web of satan and eternal hell.
Like get in the lifeboat off the sinking Titanic .
You will never see me ask your name or say give $ or go to this or that church...
But you will hear me say...go to Jesus the gospel and pray to Him and see what happens. :)
And FA ya ... ;D
Well after the prayer maybe they talk about a after game snack ...like entire blueberry pie or 3 Big Macs each....T Bone steak ...
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2. It was my wife (as well as others) that encouraged me to become the Christian I am today. God did the work of course. You have no idea the blessings that come with a marriage where both the man and the woman are devoted Christians. Not a perfect marriage by any means, but you'll never understand as long you live in your rebellion.
again robert you made me speechless. where do you come up with this stuff.
can you please elaborate on these blessings that us regular married folks are missing out on. sounds like you married a priest. personally i married my best friend. maybe your missing out?
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Wife and I have been together almost 31 years. Solid and very happy marriage. She is catholic and a believer. I am not a believer in any way, shape or form. We do not discuss religion, she has her beliefs and I have mine. Works just fine.
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Maybe Robert married A boater.
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It seems to me you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole. Let's review what you said.
You say you weren't quoting scripture but you were definitely trying to be biblical. A the end of the day it's very much the same thing.
You can't turn God's Word into mockery when you are proclaiming the truth about scripture....period
Again....you say you weren't quoting scripture, but I know exactly where this comes from and regardless....you were trying to sound biblical, and not only that, but you are assuming that we are going to destroy all that good by witnessing and proclaiming God's Word. Again.....false biblical teaching. What you are implying directly contradicts scripture and I won't let it just fall under the rug from someone (you) who claims to be a Christian.
'Those' means plural, so I'm pretty sure you are at least referring to me and A-Boater. Again....you are implying we are doing something that will destroy all that is good by overwatering (over witnessing).
Let me quote Paul for you:
1 Corinthians 9:16
16 "For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for I am under compulsion; for woe is me if I do not preach the gospel."
Do you know what it means to be under compulsion to preach the gospel? I don't think you do, because if you did you wouldn't be accusing us of 'overwatering'. You can look through these teachings till the cows come home. Overwatering (overwitnessing/overproclaiming God's word) does not exist anywhere in the bible....but you are clearly accusing myself and A-Boater of doing that, so yeah....you are going to get a reaction from me on that.
The only scripture in the entire bible that even mildly suggests what you are implying we did, is when Jesus said to not throw your pearls to the swine. I noticed you did not call anyone here out as swine. You wouldn't do that. Truth is there are both people here taking in what we are witnessing/proclaiming in (receptive hearts), and there are those (swine) who will just mock and ridicule us. It's not different than preaching in a church. Both types of people are sitting in the pews. That being said....A-boater and I are not doing anything that God would not want us to do. I hope you come to see that as truth.
Partially true. A personal blessing doesn't have to be biblical, but the problem here is that you used a 'personal blessing' to argue against a 'biblical truth'...you intentionally tried to make A-boater and me look bad...and you did it by using a personal blessing that doesn't exist in scripture...even worse that same so called blessing actually contradicts scripture....and then you use that same so called blessing to contradict scripture yourself to intentionally make other Christians look bad. THAT is unbiblical. I'm shocked you would do that.
Now you're scaring me. Scripture is NOT a salad bar. Again....no true biblical teacher is ever going to agree that you get to pick and choose what each scripture means. Like you said, it may give each individual a different perspective or insight on how to get through a trial or tribulation, but scripture always 'means' what it means. There are no different interpretations for different people. You'd fail bible college if you ever said that.
Yeah....I didn't do that. I understand and have no problem accepting the actual truth that scripture is trying to teach. I'm not the one who turned it into a salad bar.
Alright. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but it matters not, you tried to use what you said in a biblical context and instead ended up contradicting scripture. That's all that matters.
It was bad advice and it was unbiblical advice that goes against what scripture teaches.
I also had my share of 'well meaning' elders and youth pastors/leaders with good intentions when I was a teen too, and I also had my share of elders and youth/pastors leaders who gave me the rock solid hell, fire, and brimstone truth about what Christianity is and how THAT related to whatever I was going through at the time. Looking back decades later, which ones do you think I respect the most? The ones who told me the TRUTH.
Well meaning elders, pastors, or any one else who confesses to be a Christian who tell you what you want to hear to make you feel good.... they are deceiving you....they are lying to you....and they are corrupting you with false teaching....and they are a dime a dozen. I can assure you that if that elder actually took scripture (or multiple scriptures) and added, adjusted, or changed the meaning to make you feel better....I don't care how good his intentions were.....he's going to answer to God for corrupting you with false teachings. The bible has 100s of warnings to anyone who deliberately teaches scripture in a way that diverts from it's intended meaning.
Really???
Did you just call me an 'idiot'?
I'm confused. Why would something that is unbiblical be so close to your heart? When someone who claims to be a Christian tries to edify me with a false teaching about scripture, I trash it out my mind instantaneously.
You just insulted me. I didn't call you an 'idiot'. Which one of us should really be upset?
You're so off base, it's not even funny anymore.
1. "..." I was implying that if I was to quote the bible, I would have used quotations.
2. Mockery...in the sense of turning a conversation/debate into an argument.
3. "The only one winning is the one who wants to destroy all that is good"....My reference to Satan.
4. Finally, there's a big difference between witnessing with zeal and preaching. Witnessing is just that. To inform personal experiences to those unsaved....Preaching is the continuation to further educate those brought into the fold.
You have a really bad habit of putting words into people's mouths and your assumptions along with accusation of plagiarism is what I find offensive. Even if you felt I was trying to be biblical...since when did it become bad to take words from the book to convey a personal feeling to someone in a way that is comprehensible? You forget the original context of the bible was written in Hebrew and Armaic and there are those who think the translation to English is sub par. So please take time to get off your high horse and realize your views doesn't relate to everyone.
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Well big fish Robert is not unhappy.
He is very blessed and has a peace that is beyond understanding. He has love joy peace...
An obedient Christian ( not doing willful sinning ) who prays reads word trust in The Lord ( without faith "trusting" it is impossible to please The Lord ...Hebrews ch 11) praising / worshipping from the heart...
( those that worship The Lord must worship Him in spirit & truth ...sincerely. )
Then God's Presence ( Annointing ) will be upon him....
Where the Spirit of The Lord is there is liberty !!!
Light bulb....no electricity...no light.
Light bulb with electricity ...the room is lit up ...no darkness.
Ok granted when the average joe blow hears the gospel or religious info there is a knee jeck re action...bull crap...look at all these JWs knocking on doors ...Mormons knocking on doors...standing by a bank with the Watchtower mag. or dozens of Christian denominations ...Baptist Lutherans Pentacostal on & on....plus all the greedy bad example evangelists.
Then comes all the other isms....major religions....
They all have their hand up in the air !!! We have the truth or more truth than the other church....
Then we have the major master minds who bring the almighty truth and facts in their own minds ...EVOLUTION ... No God did not create humans....what happened was...they say ...billions of years ..from swamp ..to crawly ..to apes cave people to humans ( gee if we came from apes ...why is there still apes ? Should there only be people. Why did some apes evolve to people /other apes stay apes ? )
Check out youtube vid: God of Wonders 2009 documentary.
Shows universe stars planets sea fish animals birds nature snowflake so on and men of science will conclude there is a God behind it all.
But with all those loud voices screaming they have the special "truth" join us ...( come in the door ..how are you? We are now going to brainwash & program you into one of us...and in a month's time you will give us a % of your $ & your free time...you will have to come to meetings 2x a week ...are you not excited !!! Then we will expect you to go out and brainwash ...pardon me ...I mean enlighten your relatives and friends & we can be one big happy family !!! Oh do you have your check book with you..Cash credit card.....)
No wonder most are scared to check into religious things ;D
That is why I keep it simple and non threatening or scary...
That's why when sharing about the gospel ...I share that they do not have to attend any church ever if they do not want to ...or give $$$ .
I do not want their name phone # or address.
My only purpose is the Titanic is sinking ..and point the passengers to a lifeboat that still has room.
Jesus is that lifeboat.
I know 1000% that there is a real Jesus / a devil/demons and heaven or hell.
How do I know 1000% ????
Ok I heard about Jesus message as to grade 7 attended a Christian school.
If you asked me at a young age do you believe in Jesus....my answer would of been Oh yes .
Why?
Well because my school and church told me.
Youngsters believe what they are told by authorities.....teachers pastors priests...
But when I was in the government school system in latter 60's ..high school in early 70's...well there was pot,alcohol,girls...Rolling Stones and 30 and more other top top rock bands....Beatles ...let's put it this way...If it felt good Do it. No rules .
My teacher's and pastor/priest blah blah ...was " Well who knows? Are they right ? Maybe they are wrong.
I did not believe it or dis believe the gospel....it was more of ....I'm not sure.
I have to think for myself and not let others tell me what to believe in.
So....in 1973 was in Williams Lk for the summer break from high school ( Centennial High School Coquitlam ) and got a 2 month job working at a sawmill.
Honestly should not of landed that job because mills were laying off workers !!!
Exports were slow to the USA at that time.
It was while there ...living in a tent..piling lumber in the mill ....1 week dayshift...1 week afternoon shift....eating pork & beans from can...sardines...brown bread...peanut butter...
But had lots of time to think...after my 8 hr shift.... Friends parents relatives 100s of miles away.
Many times I would think ....Is this Jesus and Holy Bible fact or BS ???
How can I know one way or other ?
I do not want a hope so faith.
Or pull at the straws faith.
Maybe it's real.
Guessing game or assuming it's fact.
If I was to really believe I wanted a KNOW SO faith.
Was puzzled how to go about it.
Then on a Sat. the first weekend of August in that tent about 9pm ....got an idea.
Hey it says we can talk to God. Pray to Him. Well that's communication. Like a hot line to God.
In communication a person can say something or ask a question.
Hey...why do I not just ask Jesus directly if He really exists !!!
Got the idea that the tent is not a special place to ask...should be near the church building...
So off I went...about a 20 minute fast jog. ( McKenize Ave )
There's the cemetery ...there's the hospital over there...over this way a church.
Door locked ..no problem.
On my knees ..Told God I'm not some holy guy or anything...but if He is real will You show me.
( not crazy ...not on drugs or on a high.....)
After the prayer....from my heart directed to the Godhead Father Jesus Holy Spirit 3 in 1 Trinity...Triune
Creator ....God of the Holy Bible....literally a supernatural encounter !!!
His Presence was so intense ...it freaked me right out so to express....better way to say it is ...over welling.
Who am I to be having this encounter with the living God.
As His Presence was there ...I kept my eyes closed for the most part ...because honestly my heart was beating quickly. Guess it's just the awe of it all....His Almighty ness and my smallness in comparison.
I mean what does God and I have in common...
What do ya do at a moment like that? Hey God thanks for showing up. Do ya want to drink a beer with me ?
Anyways I prayed ...ok Thank You Your real....now would You now go away !!!
Zoom the Presence of God left as requested.
Well I can tell you from that point and time it was no more a Wonder if God is real?
It was I know He is real.
Now I believed that book from cover to cover.
So...if you are having any questions or thoughts that the gospel is real....just go to Him.
Have a heart talk with God.
He truly is the Maker the Creator...best thing He loves and forgives.
Like how ya love your dog ....that's how God loves you.
In Romans it says....Who ever calls on the name of The Lord shall be saved !!!
That's all I'm hoping for you...go to Him.
( not trying to force you to a church or give $$$ or get brainwashed ha! )
Plus heaven will be your home....and free yourself from the spider web of satan and eternal hell.
Like get in the lifeboat off the sinking Titanic .
You will never see me ask your name or say give $ or go to this or that church...
But you will hear me say...go to Jesus the gospel and pray to Him and see what happens. :)
And FA ya ... ;D
Well after the prayer maybe they talk about a after game snack ...like entire blueberry pie or 3 Big Macs each....T Bone steak ...
This is the true meaning of "witnessing". No lectures no preaching.
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Wife and I have been together almost 31 years. Solid and very happy marriage. She is catholic and a believer. I am not a believer in any way, shape or form. We do not discuss religion, she has her beliefs and I have mine. Works just fine.
Alright, but you're not going to like what I have to say. 2 Options:
1. You're wife loves you and she's NOT really a believer. So yes....it would work just fine. If she is a believer.....see #2.
2. You're wife loves you and is a believer, but she doesn't talk religion to you because she wants to keep you happy and not upset you. The result is she bottles the hurt up and cries her self to sleep because she knows once you die, she'll never see you again because you'll be tormented in an eternal hell while she's enjoying being with the Lord in heaven.
I know a few God fearing women married to nonbelieving men....and the other way around too. And the one's that truly know Jesus and understand their faith also understand what eternity in hell really means....and the result is that their souls are tormented with the thought their spouses spending eternity in torment. Some of them are complete wrecks knowing they won't get to see their spouses in heaven.
The bible teaches that Christians are to only marry Christians, but sometimes Christians are fooled into thinking their potential spouse is Christian. Other times they were both unbelievers when they got married and later one gets saved.....the other remains an unbeliever.
If your wife is a true believer, she hurts every day knowing what your eternal future is. She may still have hope because you are alive and salvation is still available to you, but as you get older and your years get shorter, her hurt and anxiety will only worsen.
So you keep on believing that everything is fine with your wife....but IF she's a believer....she's hurting.
On the other hand if she truly doesn't care whether or not you ever get saved....then that is proof she isn't saved either. The entire bible will confirm everything I just said. There is no way a Christian could be married to someone for 31 years knowing their spouse is going to hell and just say "eh...it's their choice and I respect that". That scenario does NOT exist.
Again....2 possibilities. If she's a believer...she cares....if she cares...she's hurting. If she doesn't care....she's not a believer...if she's not a believer....she's not saved... Either way...thing are NOT fine.
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Alright, but you're not going to like what I have to say. 2 Options:
1. You're wife loves you and she's NOT really a believer. So yes....it would work just fine. If she is a believer.....see #2.
2. You're wife loves you and is a believer, but she doesn't talk religion to you because she wants to keep you happy and not upset you. The result is she bottles the hurt up and cries her self to sleep because she knows once you die, she'll never see you again because you'll be tormented in an eternal hell while she's enjoying being with the Lord in heaven.
I know a few God fearing women married to nonbelieving men....and the other way around too. And the one's that truly know Jesus and understand their faith also understand what eternity in hell really means....and the result is that their souls are tormented with the thought their spouses spending eternity in torment. Some of them are complete wrecks knowing they won't get to see their spouses in heaven.
The bible teaches that Christians are to only marry Christians, but sometimes Christians are fooled into thinking their potential spouse is Christian. Other times they were both unbelievers when they got married and later one gets saved.....the other remains an unbeliever.
If your wife is a true believer, she hurts every day knowing what your eternal future is. She may still have hope because you are alive and salvation is still available to you, but as you get older and your years get shorter, her hurt and anxiety will only worsen.
So you keep on believing that everything is fine with your wife....but IF she's a believer....she's hurting.
On the other hand if she truly doesn't care whether or not you ever get saved....then that is proof she isn't saved either. The entire bible will confirm everything I just said. There is no way a Christian could be married to someone for 31 years knowing their spouse is going to hell and just say "eh...it's their choice and I respect that". That scenario does NOT exist.
Again....2 possibilities. If she's a believer...she cares....if she cares...she's hurting. If she doesn't care....she's not a believer...if she's not a believer....she's not saved... Either way...thing are NOT fine.
lol... either you just love to troll and don't have a life, or you're really a piece of garbage in real life if this is what you actually believe and how you talk to others.
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Holy effen moly. My marriage is a sham ! I’m tappin out of this thread until it gets back to fishin.
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Holy effen moly. My marriage is a sham ! I’m tappin out of this thread until it gets back to fishin.
I gave you a fair and honest reply and that's the best you can do. Come on...and I never said your marriage was a sham, nor did I imply it.
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along with accusation of plagiarism is what I find offensive
How on earth could I accuse you of plagiarism? The bible is public domain. What are you talking about?
2. Mockery...in the sense of turning a conversation/debate into an argument.
3. "The only one winning is the one who wants to destroy all that is good"....My reference to Satan.
You're back tracking what you said.
2.Whether or not the conversation is a debate or argument is up to the person posting. I've kept civil and truthful in this topic. Remember....I didn't call you an idiot....other way around.
3. Your reference to Satan was basically insinuating that me and Aboater are helping Satan's by 'over witnessing'....and again.... 'over witnessing' doesn't even exist in scripture.
4. Finally, there's a big difference between witnessing with zeal and preaching. Witnessing is just that. To inform personal experiences to those unsaved....Preaching is the continuation to further educate those brought into the fold.
Witnessing and preaching can accomplish the same thing. Most pastors know there are unbelievers in their pews when they preach. Do you truly believe that no ones been saved listening to a sermon...because that is basically what you are saying.
Witnessing is just that. To inform personal experiences to those unsaved
Witnessing without proclaiming the gospel is no different than people sitting around at a AA meeting. Witnessing is MORE than just informing experiences to those who are unsaved. A person who doesn't know Jesus must have the gospel proclaimed to them to understand what it means to have their sins forgiven and how Jesus' death and resurrection brings them eternal life. You can't be saved if you don't understand who Jesus is and what He did at the cross. If you leave the proclaiming of the gospel out of witnessing.....again....no better than an AA meeting.
l...since when did it become bad to take words from the book to convey a personal feeling to someone in a way that is comprehensible?
If it agrees with scripture, then it is fine.....if it gets changed, twisted, or added to resulting in scripture being contradicted (which is what your elder did), then it is a false teaching. They teach you that on Day 1 in bible school. I really don't think you get it. A Christian cannot teach someone that there is such thing as over witnessing/over proclaiming the gospel. Such a thing does not exist and contradicts scripture. You can't do that. I mean....sure....you can't wake up every morning and wake your neighbor and beat him over the head with your bible, but that is NOT what we are talking about here.
You forget the original context of the bible was written in Hebrew and Armaic and there are those who think the translation to English is sub par. So please take time to get off your high horse and realize your views doesn't relate to everyone.
The truth is that those who think the translation to English is subpar have problems with what the bible teaches....not the translation itself.
Now whos twisting words? I'm not on a high horse and these aren't just my views. What I'm saying is the most widely accepted conservative Christian position on what we've been discussing. The same stuff is taught at every conservative bible school out there.....so no...they aren't just MY views.
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lol... either you just love to troll and don't have a life, or you're really a piece of garbage in real life if this is what you actually believe and how you talk to others.
I shouldn't respond, but I usually have a pretty good idea when someone is thinking these things over.
The invitation for coffee or fishing is always open if you want....
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Anyways....back to fishing. There is nice weather coming next week and I'm trying to decide which lake(s) to pick.
If anyone is concerned about Covid-19, there is some good news.
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When you go can you take some pictures and post them. It will be nice to see the other side of you without all the Christian stuff.
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When you go can you take some pictures and post them. It will be nice to see the other side of you without all the Christian stuff.
Flyfishing stillwater is usually something I do by myself for my own quiet mental well being. Also Im old school and use a basic float tube and flippers. Not the easist to snap pics of a fish.
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Heading to our place at Cultus next week. Will be taking the spinning rig for some bass and the 8Wt for one last crack at some steel.
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Ibily,
I am curious how you do for those bass. As I mainly fish for trout, salmon, and steelhead, I don’t know much about it. I have fished for small mouth a few times and had a good time doing it.
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Honestly I do poorly. Bass are all new to me. Started fishing for them because I’m at Cultus lake so often. I’ve tried all sorts of spinners and flies with little success. I do know for sure they love a dew worm laying on the bottom cause I watched my buddies young son get a bunch that way. Rod would be the guy to ask as he has fished for them a fair bit I believe.
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Will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities......
YES .
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Will Covid 19 shut down fishing opportunities......
YES .
Well did answer the ?
I'm very bashful and do not like to post too big comments. ::)
But maybe I should make it a bit longer.
Youtube: What doctors are learning from autopsy findings of corona virus (Covid 19) patients.
Dr Mike Hansen.
These people who are having their parts studied (autopsy) are done fishing.
But here is a really really positive story.
Break through Drug: Ivermectin shows astounding results against Coronavirus.
( google it....read it on Newsmax. )
EDIT IN: Bangladeshi doctors say Invermectin with Doxycycline can treat patients with Covid 19 !!!
Dr Tarek Alam said 60 patients were given a combo of Invermectin and Doxycycline and all recovered fully after 4 days !!!!
Well sounds good to me. Wow wow wow....promising.
Google : Invermectin and Doxycycline treats Covid 19.
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Seen a picture on web of a public location in Sweden ...there was a sign in the pic ...it read about keeping 3 feet distance from others !!!
In Canada/USA most other places...it 's 6ft.
Knowing the human race....if speed limit is 50 K ...most will drive 60 or more....
So...if we are to keep 6ft people will keep away about 4 ft.
Sweden says 3 ft ...so people will get 2 ft away from others >:(
We should have a baseball bat or stick with a sharp nail on the end.
Wear sandwich board with message: come inside the 6ft limit and I'll attack you !!!
Even little old ladies and kids get hit or jabbed ....it's the Christian thing to do....( just joking )
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Seen a picture on web of a public location in Sweden ...there was a sign in the pic ...it read about keeping 3 feet distance from others !!!
Most of Europe is very passionate about the metric system. Seems odd that anyone in Sweden would even acknowledge feet or inches. They even have additional metric measurements that we don't use in Canada. Restaurants in many Euro countries sell beer in multiple sizes, measured in centilitres (cl). 1cl = 10 ml. You can order beer in 20, 30 or 40 cl. Great option for hot days because you can order a 20 cl beer and finish it before it gets warm. In Cologne, Germany some bars even sell beer in 10 cl glasses because the beer snobs want to drink their Kölsch while it's still super cold.
I used to work in a lumber yard of a hardware store and this European handyman used to come in with his wooden folding measuring tape and ask us for lumber and plywood in cm. Drove me nuts because he knew the rulers on the chop saw and table saw didn't show cm and he never did the conversion beforehand. He always had this mischievous smile when he talked about things in cm. All this to say that Europeans are nuts for the metric system ::)
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Most of Europe is very passionate about the metric system. Seems odd that anyone in Sweden would even acknowledge feet or inches. They even have additional metric measurements that we don't use in Canada. Restaurants in many Euro countries sell beer in multiple sizes, measured in centilitres (cl). 1cl = 10 ml. You can order beer in 20, 30 or 40 cl. Great option for hot days because you can order a 20 cl beer and finish it before it gets warm. In Cologne, Germany some bars even sell beer in 10 cl glasses because the beer snobs want to drink their Kölsch while it's still super cold.
I used to work in a lumber yard of a hardware store and this European handyman used to come in with his wooden folding measuring tape and ask us for lumber and plywood in cm. Drove me nuts because he knew the rulers on the chop saw and table saw didn't show cm and he never did the conversion beforehand. He always had this mischievous smile when he talked about things in cm. All this to say that Europeans are nuts for the metric system ::)
Yep your are right.
As FWR Youtube has so many down under south of us border as in Canada/USA ...viewers I translated meter to 3 ft.
Reuters via Yahoo News.
"Covid 19 deaths in Sweden top 4000 : Public Health Agency
( the sign in the pic says: One meter of thoughtfulness. Thank you for keeping a distance to other visitors. )
That park in Toronto that was crowded ...noticed it was 99% younger people. Birds AND bees ...sheep to the slaughter ... Young people think they are war tanks...
What virus ???
I do not see any virus. Do you see any ?
All I see is sunshine and cute girls ...
Heard the booze was flowing too ..
Pot smoking ? Maybe?
Honestly imagine many infections happened. Possibly.
But in Sweden ...1 meter distance.
Gee what was it before the virus problem .....6 inches 1/2 foot or what ever that is in "Metric."
Gee all the world spells "metric" wrong including Blood Orange.
Ya all got sucked in....
Metric is spelt .....metrick.
Covid 19 is Corvid 19.
Throw $500 in $20s on a mall floor and see how people keep 6 ft or 2 meters apart. ( In Canada...my IPAD wants to spell Canada zcanada ....but I know better. ) me smarter than IPAD.
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"Russia and China are driving an online wave of disinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, say experts. Some of the disinformation circulating online amounts to conspiracy theories about the origins of the virus — claims that it was invented in a lab or brought to China by U.S. soldiers, for example.
"The thing that's really surprised us is the volume of content that those governments produce in English," he said. "So at the moment, they can reach almost a billion social media user accounts a week with English language content that is across Instagram and Twitter and Facebook and Reddit."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-coronavirus-russia-china-1.5583961
My dad told me the other day that he's protected from the virus because he smokes... this stuff is insidious.
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"Russia and China are driving an online wave of disinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, say experts. Some of the disinformation circulating online amounts to conspiracy theories about the origins of the virus — claims that it was invented in a lab or brought to China by U.S. soldiers, for example.
"The thing that's really surprised us is the volume of content that those governments produce in English," he said. "So at the moment, they can reach almost a billion social media user accounts a week with English language content that is across Instagram and Twitter and Facebook and Reddit."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-coronavirus-russia-china-1.5583961
My dad told me the other day that he's protected from the virus because he smokes... this stuff is insidious.
agreed, these sights are super dangerous to people that do not fact check. everything must be fact checked. i have had many friends show me meaning less untrue bs that i have had to call out.
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agreed, these sights are super dangerous to people that do not fact check. everything must be fact checked. i have had many friends show me meaning less untrue bs that i have had to call out.
Problem is that most of the fact checkers are bought and paid for by the progressive left. I prefer the critical thinking and personal research approach.
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Problem is that most of the fact checkers are bought and paid for by the progressive left. I prefer the critical thinking and personal research approach.
Of course the progressive left has to pay for fact checkers.
They can't keep up with constant stream of bat my smelly socks crazy notions being touted by the non-progressive right.
:)
Hah, love the system induced edit!
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Problem is that most of the fact checkers are bought and paid for by the progressive left. I prefer the critical thinking and personal research approach.
Smart smart smart thinking.
Even an umpire these days cannot be trusted anymore to call a strike or safe or out at the plate.
Years ago when I was a little boy they called a perfect game every time.
There's that 50 's / 60 's tv show ...To Tell the Truth.
3 people all claiming to be Mr or Mrs so & so...had a story....for example one was a horse jockey for 30 yrs ..the 3 people were asked a series of ?s then they would make a guess at which of the 3 was the real jockey.
But China stopped doctors from going public that a new virus was out there ...so are we going to believe anything they say.
Once a person or country loses credibility ...in statements then what is left ?
Not believing or trusting any info ...once a liar always a liar.
The politicians in USA & Canada put out their spins ..and dif. parties do not believe each other.
There are some who to this day say: Jews were not killed in WW2 camps...
Or the moon landing did not happen
Or 9/11 was planned by the US gov.
TV ad comes on and says this item will only be on sale 50% off "only today" if you call within the next 30 minutes.
Next day the tv ad comes back on tv ::)
Says the same thing ...will be on sale 50% off "only today" & if you call......
Gee they can't even get the voting correct...cheating ...etc...
Washington St gov gave millions to scam artists who filed for funds because of Covid 19
Lots of $$$ went to Nigeria. Buyer beware.
Should be illegal to have people knock on doors for business or donation..
Plus no phone calls for business or donation either.
Too many scam artists out there.
Lastly this virus came from the ....well from wet market but maybe from Wuhan lab ?
Roll the dice to decide I guess.
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Problem is that most of the fact checkers are bought and paid for by the progressive left. I prefer the critical thinking and personal research approach.
your pores ooze of bias. fact checking has nothing to do with right or left. facts dont care about your feelings.
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Of course the progressive left has to pay for fact checkers.
They can't keep up with constant stream of bat my smelly socks crazy notions being touted by the non-progressive right.
your pores ooze of bias. fact checking has nothing to do with right or left. facts dont care about your feelings.
You guys might figure it out one day......hopefully before it's too late.
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...worst...thread...ever...
It has to get a nomination, at the minimum. What right wing think tank looks after that sort of thing?
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One more for the night
This one's for Clarki and Bigblockfox
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Robert is this you at costco? You know with all the freedom and sheep talking i could have swaren it was you.
https://youtu.be/O8fkVqEZGRA
Can you please share for all of where i talked about taking anyones freedom away.
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BBF read Ralphs signature.
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Ralph, I'll forward this thread to the Fraser Institute c/o Rex Murphy in time for the award show. The show's in Alberta though so you might need to travel if you want to catch it in person.
It makes me uncomfortable seeing holocaust denial brought up in here, especially when AB's point was unclear.
Apologies for starting things up again, that was a mistake. Was just so surprised to hear my dad spouting literal propaganda. I guess he's not the only one doing that :-X
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Do you guys know the latest regulation on fishing with 2 guys on a boat in a lake? Can you do that with masks keeping 2 meters separation? Also can they carpool together? Thanks.
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Ralph, I'll forward this thread to the Fraser Institute c/o Rex Murphy in time for the award show. The show's in Alberta though so you might need to travel if you want to catch it in person.
It makes me uncomfortable seeing holocaust denial brought up in here, especially when AB's point was unclear.
Apologies for starting things up again, that was a mistake. Was just so surprised to hear my dad spouting literal propaganda. I guess he's not the only one doing that :-X
I'll take a pass on a personal appearance, thank you.
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Do you guys know the latest regulation on fishing with 2 guys on a boat in a lake? Can you do that with masks keeping 2 meters separation? Also can they carpool together? Thanks.
Current recommendations haven't changed much: stay local, don't get together in groups larger than 10 (that part is new), stay 2m apart if you do get together, don't share vehicles with people who aren't in your household, wear masks if you have to go out but can't distance, and wash your hands often.
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Ralph, I'll forward this thread to the Fraser Institute c/o Rex Murphy in time for the award show. The show's in Alberta though so you might need to travel if you want to catch it in person.
It makes me uncomfortable seeing holocaust denial brought up in here, especially when AB's point was unclear.
Apologies for starting things up again, that was a mistake. Was just so surprised to hear my dad spouting literal propaganda. I guess he's not the only one doing that :-X
Unclear?
WTH !!!!!
It's as clear as the nose on your face.
Follow the drift of my post.
China has been known to lie ...put spin....
It's all about trying to put facts under the rug....
China hoped this virus would just stay local so they hushed it up.
Or maybe since they were going to have problems ...they wanted the world to have to deal with the same problems.
Decrease world economy.
Thus China let international travel happen...
Finally they blew the whistle and leg it be known Covid 19 is in their country.
Planes even kept flying as other countries.
Finally politicians/scientists/medical stopped travel.
China in the beginning tried to hush it all up.
So...following that drift...there are even some voices that try to say Jews were not killed in WW2 ( we know the killings did happen )
There are those who try to say NASA did not land on the moon. ( we know they did land on the moon )
There are those who say the USA gov. was behind 9-11 ...( we know it was terrorists who plotted it )
There are some today who say the earth is flat.....( we know it is round )
There are those in this world who just do not want TRUTH.
Even if the TRUTH hurts say it.
Pres. Clinton " I did not have...." ;D
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Can you please share for all of where i talked about taking anyones freedom away.
See....this is the problem. The fact that I have to show you is proof that you are already indoctrinated hook line and sinker.
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A-BOATER makes some good points here. The left automatically assumes if you don't agree with them that you are a conspiracy theorist....or a bigot...racist....gay hater….bible thumping nut.....uneducated...etc...etc....depending on the topic.
But like the meme I posted...you can't put all 'conspiracy theories' on the same plate.
Some of them are truly wacko like A-BOATER said.
Example....flat earth...denial of the holocaust....the faked moon landing.....only a complete whack job would agree with those conspiracy theories.
I believe the holocaust did happen.....the earth is NOT flat.....the moon landing did happen.....I have no problems agreeing with that because common sense, responsible research, and critical thinking shows the truth in them.
However....with other so called 'conspiracy theories'....ALSO requires critical thinking and responsible research (not just clicking on CNN or Facebook factcheckers and believing what you read)
As AB said....The Chinese government is known for lying and covering up things....They are known for trying to play God in the science labs.....any basic amount of research will tell you that. Does that mean they created the virus in a Lab? Maybe....maybe not....but the progressive left automatically says 'no, they did not' and then proceeds to demoralize and discredit anyone who disagrees with them without providing conclusive evidence for their own position. How can one not see a problem with that?
As AB said....there is currently concern with mail-in-voting fraud in the U.S. That IS a valid concern. Research and critical thinking will show why. It's not just a crazy conspiracy theory.
However....as for the 9 1 1 conspiracies....I'm not convinced either way. I have nothing conclusive myself....but there are hundreds of unanswered questions in regards to what happened. Even the left acknowledges some of those questions as being currently unanswered.
At the end of the day, some of you are like starving dogs. A piece of food is thrown at you and you inhale it before inspecting or even tasting it and then tell everyone else it's Prime Rib even though you have no clue what it actually was you ate.
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Just a gong show
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See....this is the problem. The fact that I have to show you is proof that you are already indoctrinated hook line and sinker.
i went through every post i made in this thread and none were about giving up freedoms. i am going to leave it at that and will not respond to any more of your bs. have a nice day.
sorry to other members for feeding the troll. that was not my intention.
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Just a gong show
This thread ...gong show...well it covers everything "including the kitchen sink"
Life is not perfect...get over it.
Go smoke a joint ...kiss the wife...have a beer or 2 ...chill out.
Ya as bad as this thread is as you say......it 's very popular...famous or infamous...because many comments by Robert others & myself have told /proclaimed Truth. Many trip over it...
And as bad as you think this trend is.....when you kick the bucket there is a much worse place or good place you will go to. ;D
Nothing nothing nothing more important than that.
People quick to believe lies but slow to know Truth.
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"truth" is the Devil is controlling these two "special" members :o
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"truth" is the Devil is controlling these two "special" members :o
We are friend. Friend Friend....FRIEND ...
fishforever you lie.
Me tell truth nothing but the truth.
Robert & I are aliens from the planet Zoooooooto.
Or for short: Zuto.
Actually after cutting grass /pulling weeds sat at back patio ...listening to Johnny Cash ..then later Elvis gospel songs...think Robert & I are in good company ....and the many great entertainers some dead & some living who have a deep faith.
Yes members here would spend big bucks to attend their concerts...
Ya we are in good company. :)
Bonus about 90 minutes ago 3 eagles were soaring high above ..as they did circles ...they went eastward.
Huge wing span.
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Once a person or country loses credibility ...in statements then what is left ?
Not believing or trusting any info ........
Too many scam artists out there.
[/quote]................llike that lying sack of in the White House......
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100,000 dead under the Wartime President's watch. Pathetic
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[quote author=A-BOATER link=topic=43381.msg412738#msg412738 ..............
Once a person or country loses credibility ...in statements then what is left ?
Not believing or trusting any info ........
Too many scam artists out there.
................llike that lying sack of in the White House......
FA & Spoonman have to admit...there have been some cracks in his armour lately.
He has been on constant attack for nearly 4 yrs....from the left politicians...from left slant media...nuke war threat by N Korea....China /USA trade war...and floods /storms...and now Covid 19.
Economy in the tubes.....100,000 dead from virus...
Now well known past backer(s) have now attacked Pres. Trump...
The world as know it is going thru very tough times....literally it's on a powder keg ...all hell could break lose ....world wars etc...
Gee the election is in November ...with this Covid 19 still peaking in the USA ...there may be a delay.
But the Pres. has lost his shine ....and what can he do to get back on track.
Sometimes he is his worse enemy.
Notice Obama is coming out with lots of attacks lately.
Of course he wants Biden in the White House.
Guess who Biden will be inviting over weekly or be on the phone with if he becomes Pres. ? Ya Obama.
Obama will tell Biden how he should think talk and act on every issue.
Biden will be Obama 's puppet.
Oh Mr Pres Biden...here is how I see it....if I were you I'd do this and that .....but you do as you want....( Obama talking )
And of course 95% less media attack on Biden if he gets in.
Poo is hitting the fan.....& just wait for the world war in the Middle East....(prediction in the Good Book)
What will people do then .....
We are living in crazy times.
Guess the black guy who basically was murdered by the policeman's knee to the neck sums it all up how crazy the world has become.
The poor guy was saying : I can't breath.
Good thing the 4 police were canned...are they being charged with murder? Think so.
3 stood by and did nothing.
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100,000 dead under the Wartime President's watch. Pathetic
Are you freaking kidding me?
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and virtually every Democrat leader in the U.S. gave Trump the 3rd degree for closing the borders down to China when he did.They called him racist and every other name in the book. It's all documented....no fake news here. If Trump didn't shut things down when he did, the death toll would be way higher. If you need sources for that, they are out there by the thousands. Even MSM admits that it was Trump, and Trump alone who is responsible for getting the borders shut down as early as they were.
You are the class example of true Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Incredulous amounts of pure tinfoil hat infused, angry, quackery from the backfiring synapses of 2 brainwashed covfefe koolaid clowns
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Are you freaking kidding me?
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and virtually every Democrat leader in the U.S. gave Trump the 3rd degree for closing the borders down to China when he did.They called him racist and every other name in the book. It's all documented....no fake news here. If Trump didn't shut things down when he did, the death toll would be way higher. If you need sources for that, they are out there by the thousands. Even MSM admits that it was Trump, and Trump alone who is responsible for getting the borders shut down as early as they were.
You are the class example of true Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Just like Trump, blame it all on the Democrats. He's more concerned with Twitter than the 100,000 that died.
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Incredulous amounts of pure tinfoil hat infused, angry, quackery from the backfiring synapses of 2 brainwashed covfefe koolaid clowns
Check out : Faith and Freedom Coalition on web.
On homepage click on ISSUES.
There you will see why many Americans are Republican.
On ISSUES scroll to bottom of page and click on Pres. Trump achievements !!!
Pres. Trump promises made promises kept !
We are not clowns.....we are people who believe in old fashion values...
Today's living is totally based on:
If it feels good do it.
If Democrats win the election the soup of the day will be served ...corruption/ no moral compass....
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Just like Trump, blame it all on the Democrats. He's more concerned with Twitter than the 100,000 that died.
Obviously it doesnt make a difference when facts are put right in front of you.
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Obviously it doesnt make a difference when facts are put right in front of you.
;D ;D ;D
That FA knows a lot about the CFL & NHL & fishing...( so he's a good guy ) but when it comes to truth & facts he could not hit the side of a barn with a shot gun blast standing 60 ft away !!!!
On today's 700 Club tv at 11am to 12 noon at one pt. an interview with Kayleigh McEnany.
If ya miss the show on tv ...go to CBN News and on webpage the story should be there.
She says she believes God put her as WH press sec. for a purpose.
She tells of her faith,love of country and overcoming adversity.
And as this trend is on Covid 19 & it's effects...on CBN News website check out this story:
Israeli scientists find two drugs they claim can treat Covid 19.
Jewish people have a good record of inventing so....they possibly have a new cure should people get the virus.
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Jewish people have a good record of inventing so....they possibly have a new cure should people get the virus.
yeah, they invented Christianity. LOL!
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Obviously it doesnt make a difference when facts are put right in front of you.
Which part of my post is untrue ? That over 100,000 people have perished in the US due to Covid 19 or that the Republicans blame the Democrats ? Seems to me that you're the one who can't see (or choose not to) the facts when they are placed in front of you.
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Last time I posted anything here was in 2018.
But just reading this thread really put everything in perspective.
It truly is baffling to think that there are people out there who think their world view is the one and only true "word".
Your truths are yours, and yours alone. When someone decides and "knows" their truth is the only and right truth, doesn't that means that you think everyone else is stupid.
If we dare think rationally for ourselves and hold strongly to our truths, the two that shall never be mention, mock , ridicule, and outright attack everyone.
My truths are my own, this comes after all my due diligence in researching not just one source, but mostly from academic sources from universities and scholars who speak academia.
Boys, bring it on
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Last time I posted anything here was in 2018.
But just reading this thread really put everything in perspective.
It truly is baffling to think that there are people out there who think their world view is the one and only true "word".
Your truths are yours, and yours alone. When someone decides and "knows" their truth is the only and right truth, doesn't that means that you think everyone else is stupid.
If we dare think rationally for ourselves and hold strongly to our truths, the two that shall never be mention, mock , ridicule, and outright attack everyone.
My truths are my own, this comes after all my due diligence in researching not just one source, but mostly from academic sources from universities and scholars who speak academia.
Boys, bring it on
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If Obama was still president and he had to deal with the exact covid situation faced today, the media would adore him saying he’s best fit for the situation even if many more passed.
I don’t know for sure, but I have a sure feeling.
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If Obama was still president and he had to deal with the exact covid situation faced today, the media would adore him saying he’s best fit for the situation even if many more passed.
I don’t know for sure, but I have a sure feeling.
No....you are definitely 100% correct with that statement.
Almost all the democrats wanted the borders kept open....even with China. The Dems and MSM labeled Trump a racist for closing them when he did. So many indoctrinated liberals can't see the forest for the trees...fueled with hate for Trump. Trump could walk on water.....they would still hate him. Hate for the sake of hate.
FACT. There are LESS people dead from Covid-19 in the U.S. because Trump closed the borders when he did. There is systematically, mathematically no way any thinking human being can debate this.
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In all my years on this site I have never witnessed someone spew so much racially charged hate and self righteous indignation as you do...all the while calling yourself a Christian.
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Never mind closing the borders, epidemiologists have stated had the States implemented social distancing just 2 weeks earlier, they would have saved 40% of the people that died
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Never mind closing the borders, epidemiologists have stated had the States implemented social distancing just 2 weeks earlier, they would have saved 40% of the people that died
What would be the point in social distancing when you still have dozens of flights each week coming from the epicenter (Wuhan)?
Again....you're not thinking clearly. Your rational is the same as being in a sinking boat using a 1 litre bailer when there is 2 litres coming in for every 1 litre you scoop out.
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The facts of the US China travel ban:
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
The facts on Covid 19 cases and deaths in the US versus other countries in the world:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105264/coronavirus-covid-19-cases-most-affected-countries-worldwide/
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The facts of the US China travel ban:
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
The facts on Covid 19 cases and deaths in the US versus other countries in the world:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105264/coronavirus-covid-19-cases-most-affected-countries-worldwide/
Sorry Ralph. That factchecker article was posted March 6th. There is no possibility that it could still be relevant.
It's as useless now as the weather report on the same day.
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.......Trump could walk on water.....they would still hate him. Hate for the sake of hate.
........not as long as he did it upside down.......but it wouldn't be a miracle because turds float.....
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Who's the sheep now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9XWTbbSGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJAcERLGAE
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There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See
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After March 6th Trump changed the facts that happened before March and it has been systematically, mathematically proven.
ah-Yup.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200413/fact-check-was-trump-slow-to-halt-travel-from-china
done in mid-April in response to statements made by Biden:
We found that the United States acted around the same time as did many other countries. It wasn’t the first to restrict travel from China, but it wasn’t the last, either.
timelines are all before March 6th.
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After March 6th Trump changed the facts that happened before March and it has been systematically, mathematically proven.
ah-Yup.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200413/fact-check-was-trump-slow-to-halt-travel-from-china
done in mid-April in response to statements made by Biden:
timelines are all before March 6th.
1. That is definitely a left wing source....
2. April 13th is still old news....way too much new information since then...it simply isn't relevant.
3. Half the article is Joe Biden's opinion. He can't even remember what he had for breakfast.
Let me quote YOUR article:
*** """There are many points on which to criticize the Trump administration’s response to COVID-19, but they were not slow in instituting a travel ban on China,” Nowrasteh said. """ ***
This part of the article says the same as I did.
You just won't give Trump an inch will you? There's a lot of things about Trump I don't like (I'm not even a Trump supporter), but the unwarranted hate for the guy here in Canada is sickening.
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Who's the sheep now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9XWTbbSGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmJAcERLGAE
Come on BlaydRnr. I've come to expect better from you.
There is nothing worse than those crappy left wing videos where they CUT AND PASTE SNIPPETS of different videos to make a collage of garbage like that. They're a dime a dozen.
I've actually watched a lot of those news conferences, and what they don't show you is the rudeness of the reporters. They are downright nasty....just as Trump calls em.
Trump is talking about Covid 19 and one of the reporters out of the blue asks him if he moved any of his investments right before the pandemic. How bloody rude can you be? An outright accusation off topic and he had no evidence whatsoever.
Donald Trump is way too smart to fall for 'Gotcha Questions'. That's one of the many reasons why after the 22nd witch hunt by the progressive left, he is still president. In fact, if you watch those conferences, the media IS SO RUDE to him, that they are lucky he doesn't just get up and leave on them. The ones on the videos you posted with Jim Acousta from CNN are the worst. I have no idea how that guy ever graduated from journalism school.
Again...ANYONE can put together a collage of video snippets to make someone look bad.
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........You just won't give Trump an inch will you? .........
........I would.....it would just have to be made of lead......
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........I would.....it would just have to be made of lead......
Again....I find it strange how people accuse me of hate and yet I'm not the one talking (or even joking) about killing people just because I don't like them.
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Again...ANYONE can put together a collage of video snippets to make someone look bad.
I suppose the words that came out Trump's mouth were also doctored up and voiced over to make him look bad.
What I find sickening is how eager someone is to defend a president who doesn't give a rat's *** about Canadians, but is quick to criticize our own Prime Minister.
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No that is not what you said at least not completely
It is a relatively unbiased source. We don't even know what your 'sources' are!
What new information? Did they back date port of entry restrictions?
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I suppose the words that came out Trump's mouth were also doctored up and voiced over to make him look bad.
You still don't understand how a cherry picked collage works, do you?
but is quick to criticize our own Prime Minister.
Our prime minister just literally removed parliament until September ( I'm sure he'll have an excuse even then to extend it further). He can do whatever he wants unchecked with immunity. It's what he always wanted and Covid-19 has given him the ability to do it
If you can't see a Totalitarian dictatorship happening in Canada, I suggest you apply some good research and critical thinking.
Do you not see a problem here?
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Smart and Trump are two words that doesn't belong in the same sentence.
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You still don't understand how a cherry picked collage works, do you?
Our prime minister just literally removed parliament until September ( I'm sure he'll have an excuse even then to extend it further). He can do whatever he wants unchecked with immunity. It's what he always wanted and Covid-19 has given him the ability to do it
If you can't see a Totalitarian dictatorship happening in Canada, I suggest you apply some good research and critical thinking.
Do you not see a problem here?
That so called "cherry picked collage" is chronologically ordered by the date which the events/briefing took place. It's not media hype when the words are coming from the mouth of Trump himself...but you are right in the sense that it's "cherry picked", no different from "plays of the month" in sports. Regardless, even you can't deny documented events that took place and statements that were made.
So you believe they should ignore the health authorities' order of minimizing social gathering and long distant travel for the sake of sessions at Parliament Hill? Because really that's what it comes down to.
You believe also that Trump giving free reign to his governors to do as they please was the way to go? America is unchecked and leaderless...their death toll topped 100,000... 40 million relying on food banks to survive. Seriously are you so closed off that common sense eludes you?
Trump is a buffoon, just listen to the way he talks and the things he suggests...he's nothing but a spoiled brat who fires staff who disagree with him and he encourages disorder.
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Can we presume that the wall with Mexico has been built ??
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Can we presume that the wall with Mexico has been built ??
No, but the Mexican Government is working on it. 8)
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That so called "cherry picked collage" is chronologically ordered by the date which the events/briefing took place. It's not media hype when the words are coming from the mouth of Trump himself...but you are right in the sense that it's "cherry picked", no different from "plays of the month" in sports. Regardless, even you can't deny documented events that took place and statements that were made.
Chronologically means nothing. You could cherry pick words from my mouth 'chronologically' and I'm sure you could put together a phrase from me saying that 'I hate being a Christian'. I've said each of those words enough times that you could probably do it with a perfectly smooth transition too. If you're good and put in the time, you can do the same with sentences and paragraphs.
Words are easy to cherry pick and make people look like they mean something they don't....and that's exactly what your videos did.
So you believe they should ignore the health authorities' order of minimizing social gathering and long distant travel for the sake of sessions at Parliament Hill? Because really that's what it comes down to.
You mean the WHO? They are corrupt. The leader is under scrutiny right now for a number of things. Countless people and leaders and doctors from around the globe are asking for his resignation.
Or do you mean DR Tam? Every predication she has made has been wrong. Dr. Fauci isn't much better if at all. None of these health experts know anything. Just watch the news for yourself. These 'so called experts' change their 'expert' opinion every week. DR Tam especially is all over the place. Only a someone missing their marbles would listen to 'experts' who are that unstable.
So you believe they should ignore the health authorities' order of minimizing social gathering and long distant travel for the sake of sessions at Parliament Hill? Because really that's what it comes down to.
Are you kidding me? I'm working and I have to keep working if I want to get paid. Most people are working. I'm sorry but if nurses/doctors, grocery store workers, etc, etc can work in dangerous crowded places, there is NO EXCUSE for a few dozen politicians to not attend a wide open parliament building. Give me a freaking break. That was a total snowflake comment from you.
You believe also that Trump giving free reign to his governors to do as they please was the way to go?
Trump is trying to give the states some freedom to make their own choices. You guys just paint him into a corner. If he gives them free reign....you call him irresponsible. If he takes control, you call him a Tyrant. That type of hate is beyond evil, and you wonder why he treats the media the way he does. The progressive left purposely attempts to set him up for failure (grasping for that 'gotcha' moment) and you are obviously no different.
America is unchecked and leaderless
That's nothing more than a biased opinion....and it's wrong. Trump is the best president since Ronnie...maybe even better
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U.S Poplulation 329 million - 100 thousand deaths. 1 in 3290 people died of covid-19 (those are the official numbers but there is substantial evidence that those numbers are overblown...the numbers are debated by multiple sources....some of them from the left even)
Canada Population 37.7 million just under 7000 deaths. 1 in 5385 people died of covid-19 ( those numbers are more accurate than the U.S. and less argued as well)
Keep in mind that the U.S. had droves more flights from Wuhan in Dec/Jan/Feb than Canada did. The numbers of flights aren't even comparable. That put the U.S. at a disadvantage right from the start.
Even a straight across comparison of the numbers without that....it's still not that far apart.
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Are you guys going to "thumbs up" if upon death you enter hell ?
Satan will say HELL O .
I tricked you.
"There seems to be a way that seems right....but the end is the way of death." (Hell)
That Death Angel drummer got freaked out when he visited hell and saw satan.
Covid 19 coma....he left his body.
90% or something of christians are Republicans.
Stand more for Biblical values.
People can try to live their life ...by deciding to think right talk right behave right.
They believe there is a real living God behind the universe to sees hears & records all.
Democrats on the most part ....rule by the fad of the day...they could care less about God.
They are their own gods.
As people were being attacked.....the democrats said "stand down"
Pres. Trump would of sent in planes...navy and marines....helicopter gun ships...
Obama changed his opinions because his 12-13 yr old daughter said but daddy......
Obama sends millions/billions of cash to Iran....
Obama turned his back on the Jewish nation even though the aggressors were starting all the trouble.
Bottom line ......if you do not stand with Republican values you my friend are deceived by the Prince of darkness !!!!!!
He's waiting for you.
Reach out for mercy while there is time.....because hell is torment and it's forever.
Get behind Pres. Trump ...he is not perfect but 1000% the better between the 2 parties.
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Hellarious!!!
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Trump the best president ever ? Now that's funny ;D ;D ;D
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I think all of us can agree that these two will end up in hell.
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I think all of us can agree that these two will end up in hell.
You can agree all ya want...bottom line you do not call the shots....the Guy above ( God) calls the shots.
He does not want anyone to go to hell. big fish His Hand is reaching out to you. Grab it.
If we reject His mercy....we send ourselves to hell.
Talking about shots......there goes FA again....2nd blast from the shot gun and he missed the side of the barn again. Better put a telescope on that shotgun.
I yelled : Fore.....before he pulled the trigger so people took cover.
FA I agree with Robert ....ignore Pres. Trumps rough edges ...and look for diamonds...the positives...yes he is one of the very very best Presidents ever.
He's got a star cast surrounding him.
Pres. Trump reminds me of the Magnificent 7 western movie....so much attacks but they still win ;D
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Nah... I'd say you're going to hell.
fishtruck's words flew right over your head, how shocking lol...
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You’re going to hell.
Who says that?? Lol
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I did, just like the other two goofballs have been saying about everyone else.
What are you, their cheerleader?
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RG...I didn't even bother pushing the 'quote reply' button anymore. I realize now that you're nothing more than a wall, but I figured I might as well post one last time, on this topic.
Are you serious? Chronologically pick words out your mouth? Do you really believe what you're saying make sense?
Chronological order when Trump appeared on camera...consecutively on specific dates...speaking on camera with words he uttered in complete sentences. Can't be any simpler than that unless you chose to twist the context of what's been written to suit your argument.
Okay, so you feel all the world medical experts are clueless...but think Trump's medical suggestions are worthy of trial....Good one.
Once again you don't fail to astound me with your logic. Nurses, doctors, along with food manufacturing staff and truckers (as an example) can't do their jobs over media communication devices. Do I really need to explain further?
Trump best ever President? Only if you don't take into account the negatives and missed achievements during his short time in office.
Overblown death count in The States? Can you back that up with credible sources, other than claims coming from the right?
The United States is supposed to be the most powerful and most sophisticated country in the world, yet they've handled this pandemic in the worst way possible. Name one positive thing that their administration achieved to prove how good Trump really is as a leader....just one.
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Talking about shots......there goes FA again....2nd blast from the shot gun and he missed the side of the barn again. Better put a telescope on that shotgun.
I yelled : Fore.....before he pulled the trigger so people took cover.
FA I agree with Robert ....ignore Pres. Trumps rough edges ...and look for diamonds...the positives...yes he is one of the very very best Presidents ever.
He's got a star cast surrounding him.
Pres. Trump reminds me of the Magnificent 7 western movie....so much attacks but they still win ;D
If course I missed the side of the barn. I wasn't aiming for the barn. I was going for the two nutbars standing next to the barn and I got both ! :)
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Big fish should be called Tough_fish lol
Well they gave reasons, it’s a forum let’s hear yours
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Big fish should be called Tough_fish lol
Well they gave reasons, it’s a forum let’s hear yours
Or "2 Cents"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYviM5xevC8
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Jimmy Kimmel and some comedians are a huge joke themselves, no pun
That segment is sad..
Who brings young children on tv to talk about politicians??
They only have their childhood for so long
Actually watched the entire clip now... wasn’t terrible
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World wide there is little or no evidence that port of entry controls has made much of a difference in controlling the pandemic. In countries that did institute stringent controls like Russia or Singapore initial control of infection was later rubbed out by community spread. Russia now has one of the worst records. To call the US management of the outbreak a success flies in the face of the facts. The US has been the epicentre of the outbreak since late March. It has the unadmirable record of leading the world in both infections and deaths. If the Trump administration has responsibility for the national response, the response has to be described as a failure to this point. Still at the more local level it is less clear. There have been specific centres of infection in the US - such as NYC. Same here in Canada where infections in Montreal, Toronto and specific work places have lead the extent of the outbreak. It's way to early to decide success or failure or what specific strategies have been effective and what have not. There is a lot to learn and there is almost more to learn as a second major wave to come.
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If course I missed the side of the barn. I wasn't aiming for the barn. I was going for the two nutbars standing next to the barn and I got both ! :)
While I was yelling "Fore" and warning everyone else...FA missed the barn & hit my lower back.
Lower back pain I do.....honestly it was dark spot and tripped on a curb & stumbled but did not fall.
Sore back for 2 weeks. Crap.
Tried walking around the block a few days ago ....walked like a duck.
Booooooooooooo!
Finally today ....doing some back stretch exercises that I found on Youtube...
Think it will help.
Trip on curb is what started it....oops I mean FA shotgun blast.
But yes do check out CBN News website homepage.
Still should have info on the two drugs Isreal doctors used and Covid 19 was halted and quick recovery.
RalphH the Philippines immeadiately took quick action and stopped all flights / passenger boats etc...from HK ...China ...other countries.....
And with their crowded cities ...30% poverty ???they have controlled the spread very very well.
But yes there is so much to learn.
Elvis John Wayne Johnny Cash ....if living would support Pres. D Trump!
They had their vices but fans loved & love these guys....
Mr Trump has his past vices ....but he's loved and got many fans followers....he'd not perfect but he remembers what he had for breakfast.
( If sleepy Joe gets in ...Mr Pres. time to wake up...you have to meet PM Trudeau in one hr...
Joe says : Oh did I win the election?
Oh ya that 's right I'm president....ok ok I'm meeting Trudeau in one hour...where is that "to do list?" Obama sent me? Oh here it is under my pillow.)
Lord help us.
America will suffer if the Democrats get in power.
The swamps will flood again.
Lots of dirt put under mats....
And the reporters will once again put away their knives and take out their big feathers......
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The Philippines has relied on strict lockdown measures:
In the Philippines, meanwhile, plans were unveiled on Friday to ease strict lockdown measures despite a record spike in new cases. The country reported 539 infections on Thursday, bringing its total to 15,588, with 921 deaths...
Manila’s lockdown will this weekend surpass the 76-day quarantine of Wuhan, the city in China where the first outbreak of the coronavirus was detected. Manila’s restrictions have hit the livelihoods of millions of workers and there is pressure to ease damage to an economy that is facing its deepest contraction in 34 years.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?action=post;topic=43381.915;last_msg=412856
The Philippines Government implemented one of the world's strictest and longest Covid-19 lockdowns
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/millions-unemployed-philippines-covid-19-lockdown-200526090816099.html
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but I figured I might as well post one last time, on this topic.
How many times have you said that now?
If course I missed the side of the barn. I wasn't aiming for the barn. I was going for the two nutbars standing next to the barn and I got both ! :)
You aren't aiming for anything. You've got the shotgun choke set for as wide of spread as possible.....who cares what you hit with it....right?
It's way to early to decide success or failure or what specific strategies have been effective and what have not. There is a lot to learn and there is almost more to learn as a second major wave to come.
And yet you just attempted to prove that Trumps strategies were ineffective with 2 useless fact checking links....Why bother sending factcheck links if it's too early as you just said? You're kind of going around in circles Ralph.
and there is almost more to learn as a second major wave to come.
You just love to buy into the fear mongering that the MSM left is blabbering.
There is NO second wave coming. Here is what may or may not happen.
1. The lifting of restrictions slightly undoes the flattening of the curve. This would be beneficial because it would go through the public faster which is inevitable to happen anyways if the virus is as contagious as the fear mongering people are telling us it is. This would NOT be considered a second wave...
2. The virus mutates so far from the original that it basically becomes a new virus and people who already have the antibodies are getting infected with this new virus too. This is NOT a second wave. It would be a NEW virus.
3. The global agenda realizes that Covid-19 didn't accomplish what was intended (just like the man made climate change farce) and they scramble to find the next fear mongering/witch hunt scenario to ensure Trump doesn't win the 2020 election....and reattempt to keep removing more freedoms from the general public in the process.
I'm going with #3.
Again....there is NO second wave coming. If the virus doesn't do some crazy mutation...and we already know that many of the older generation and those susceptible are social distancing/wearing masks (which DR Tam can't make up her mind if they actually work or not....lol)....there is no reason a second wave will happen. Of course that will just infuriate those wanting Trump to lose the election.
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The United States is supposed to be the most powerful and most sophisticated country in the world, yet they've handled this pandemic in the worst way possible. Name one positive thing that their administration achieved to prove how good Trump really is as a leader....just one.
I'd like to converse with you as you are more respectful than most here, but unfortunately comments like this shows you are drunk with the MSM progressive left Kool-Aid. Again.....Trump could be standing right in front of you on a lake walking on water and you'd still be looking for ways to discredit him....so at the end of my day, it's not worth my time. You aren't going to listen to anything positive I post about Trump or his administration.
I'll throw you a bone. Watch some videos with the White House new press secretary Kayleigh McEnany.
She is absolutely amazing. If I was single she'd be my dream conservative wife. She's smart. She doesn't put up with BS from the MSM. She can't be pushed around, and yet she's polite and considerate to everyone....backs up her words with facts....and at the end of the day she is very competent to show and systematically explain why Trump and his administration is doing a fantastic job given the current situation. But again.....the MSM progressive left doesn't care about those things. They have a demented tunnel vision of removing Trump from office and NOTHING else matters to them.
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I did, just like the other two goofballs have been saying about everyone else.
What are you, their cheerleader?
Yes there are many many cheerleaders for Republican agenda ...
( more Godly based ... )
Ya say there's no God.
Well ya just have never tuned him in.
Ya cannot catch radio CKNW with an empty soup can.
Ya need a radio.
Ya cannot know God by looking about with your eyes....
It takes heart prayer.
Tonight on Joy tv at 9pm Vancouver time there is a 1 hr special...honouring Pentacost and also the Jewish nation.
It's called: Night of Promise.
Done by the USA ....700 Club.
Lots of guests....
To see the homepage of CBN News to get that story on the Jewish medical on the 2 drugs that combats Covid 19 ........... www.cbnnews.com
Lots of good news stories.
Middle of the road reporting. Not swords attacking all the time.
Go back a page: catch the last 2 comments of Robert.
Good pts.
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There is no point is trying to reason with these 2 circle jerks.
They have both God's and Trumps hands firmly planted up their arses, and flap about like some goofy ventriloquist dolls spouting Trumps nonsense and fairytales because they have no ability to think critically ... just like the doll, they have a lump of whittled Alder as a brain.
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72 days and 63 pages of nonsense. ::)
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35 thousand views and counting is money in the pocket
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How many times have you said that now?
Once regarding religious views and now regarding Trump...pertaining strictly to conversations with you.
You don't need MSM to get factual information on current events....stream the web for personal podcasts and Youtube posts of nurses and doctors and other front liners sharing their experiences. Then maybe you'll realize the truth of what's really going on outside of the political spectrum.
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Wait a minute wasn't there a song............. oh that was 6 pages ago.
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I was out fishing my local stocked lake this morning. Nothing to report. Nobody around me caught anything. No fish showing. Guess God couldn't will them to bite.
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You don't need MSM to get factual information on current events....stream the web for personal podcasts and Youtube posts of nurses and doctors and other front liners sharing their experiences. Then maybe you'll realize the truth of what's really going on outside of the political spectrum.
Partially true, but the problem is that most of the ones you speak of are getting banned at the rate of 100s if not 1000s per hour by YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.
I'm not talking high-school dropouts either. I'm talking PhDs, Master's Degrees, etc....all in the different medical and scientific fields.
Basically it doesn't matter what your level of education or experience is....if you don't fit the narrative....YOU GET BANNED off the popular social media platforms. That is a fact. Of course the MSN ignores their credentials and calls them whack jobs regardless of how many years experience or education they have. Again....doesn't fit the narrative.
Here is a good starting point for you. Tell me why these 2 who are NOT doctors at all get to call the shots?
Edit: I'm not looking to argue the meme....just the fact they aren't doctors...have zero experience with any of this..... so why do they get to call the shots.
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Adhamon is a Doctor, as in he has a PHD in community health. His MSc was in Immunology of Infectious Diseases.
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Adhamon is a Doctor, as in he has a PHD in community health. His MSc was in Immunology of Infectious Diseases.
I should of known you'd say that. You knew what I meant.....but anyways.....my bad.
He's NOT A PHYSICIAN. He's not a 'medical' doctor. There....are you happy?
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It doesn't matter.....anyone who trusts this guy needs to read up on him.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/10/5-shocking-facts-about-who-chief-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-questions-surfacing-about-history-of-whos-director-tedros-adhanom/
https://www.movefm.com.au/senator-tom-cotton-says-whos-tedros-is-corrupt-and-should-be-fired/
100s more sources on this that you can look up.....
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Partially true, but the problem is that most of the ones you speak of are getting banned at the rate of 100s if not 1000s per hour by YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.
Okay I'll bite.
You just contradicted yourself. On one hand you stated MSM is manipulated by the Left and "cherry picks" propagandist material to make Trump look bad. If so, why would they ban videos where front liners share their dismay with the lack of government support? Could it be that it's actually the Right doing the manipulating?
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I was out fishing my local stocked lake this morning. Nothing to report. Nobody around me caught anything. No fish showing. Guess God couldn't will them to bite.
There's more to this story....
Robert and I fished all night & caught every fish.
We then had the fish cooked and suppers for the front line wkrs tonight.
Geeeeeeee if we knew you were going fishing there ...we'd of left one fish in the lake re-stock 1 fish for FA.
God had nothing to do with it. :)
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Okay I'll bite.
You just contradicted yourself. On one hand you stated MSM is manipulated by the Left and "cherry picks" propagandist material to make Trump look bad. If so, why would they ban videos where front liners share their dismay with the lack of government support? Could it be that it's actually the Right doing the manipulating?
No I didn't contradict myself. I never meant MSM is manipulated by the left. MSM IS THE LEFT. YouTube, etc is banning videos from the 'right' and anyone who disagrees with the narrative from the 'left'.
YouTube, etc is not banning videos that DO agree with the narrative regardless where they come from. Sorry, I may of worded that post a bit weird, but I meant that the videos getting banned are the ones that disagree with the narrative of the left....and many of those are experienced educated doctors.....etc.
Looking at your post now. I think when I said "The ones BlaydRnr speaks of", I didn't realize that you were talking about the 'left' leaning voices on YouTube....etc.
I was referring to the 'right' speaking voices that were getting banned. The 'left' speaking voices are NOT getting banned on YouTube...etc
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There's more to this story....
Robert and I fished all night & caught every fish.
We then had the fish cooked and suppers for the front line wkrs tonight.
Geeeeeeee if we knew you were going fishing there ...we'd of left one fish in the lake re-stock 1 fish for FA.
God had nothing to do with it. :)
So you and Robert are poachers ? Who knew
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Haven’t checked in this “will covid effect fishing opportunities” thread for awhile....well, it certainly has effected fishing.
Robert G, I am curious what your avatar is...it looks familiar.
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So you and Robert are poachers ? Who knew
In Covid 19 times not poachers.....Robin Hoods.
Plus we never kept any fish for ourselves....all fish cooked and first line wkrs eating them right now.
:)
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......trump's America looking great tonight...... helter skelter begins......
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Robert G, I am curious what your avatar is...it looks familiar.
Fittingly, it's the art of a Magic the Gathering card called Incite, printed in M11.
(https://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=205045&type=card)
It's like an inside joke to himself, that he advertises he's a troll because he thinks nobody here will recognize an obscure Magic card printed a decade ago. Like when the bad guy sends taunting clues to the detective in the thriller movie because he thinks that others are too dim to catch on to his brilliance :P He'll claim that he didn't know it was a Magic card with a trolly name and that he just liked the picture... then change the topic and continue his quest to trigger the snowflakes by sealioning. He pushes too aggressively to be a good sealion, though. I'd give him a 3 out of 5. His act is often too one-dimensional ::)
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Fittingly, it's the art of a Magic the Gathering card called Incite, printed in M11.
(https://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=205045&type=card)
It's like an inside joke to himself, that he advertises he's a troll because he thinks nobody here will recognize an obscure Magic card printed a decade ago. Like when the bad guy sends taunting clues to the detective in the thriller movie because he thinks that others are too dim to catch on to his brilliance :P He'll claim that he didn't know it was a Magic card with a trolly name and that he just liked the picture... then change the topic and continue his quest to trigger the snowflakes by sealioning. He pushes too aggressively to be a good sealion, though. I'd give him a 3 out of 5. His act is often too one-dimensional ::)
You sir....get a thumbs up from me for the first time.
Yes...I know where this picture of my avatar came from, but I found it randomly one day when I wasn't really searching for anything. The picture on the card immediately resonated with me, so I searched it out and found out that it comes from some card game called Magic the Gathering. I don't play the game. Apparently it appeals to nerdy Dungeons and Dragons type 20 somethings....nonetheless, I love the art on the card and the flavor of it too.
I'm curious to how you found it though. Are you a 20s something nerdy type?
Oh....btw....your post was a win until the Sea Lion thing. You should of stopped before that.
Oh and lets make it at least a 4/5
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Rg has mentioned the source of his avatar before.
Shocking though, he almost sounds rational, creative and in some ways likeable in his post!
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I think Blood Orange was thinking you bark like a Sea Lion.
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I changed my signature for you Blood Orange.
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I'm older than 20 but have been into many nerdy pursuits over the years. Played Magic on and off for 25 years, sometimes competitively. Started playing Dungeons and Dragons online with friends when the pandemic started. Also a great game, I can see why it's been around for almost 50 years. Too many hobbies and collections over the years to list.
I'm sure Robert is a 4/5 person in real life. There are a lot of people who use the internet to get a reaction to amuse themselves, even if it's a negative reaction. I've seen similar tactics on enough forums and comment sections over the years. I think that we could learn to appreciate Robert for who he is, if he decides to drop the act and actually have a conversation with us. We're not so bad. Except for Ralph. (Just kidding :-*)
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I'm sure Robert is a 4/5 person in real life. There are a lot of people who use the internet to get a reaction to amuse themselves, even if it's a negative reaction. I've seen similar tactics on enough forums and comment sections over the years. I think that we could learn to appreciate Robert for who he is, if he decides to drop the act and actually have a conversation with us. We're not so bad.
I've never made it a secret that I sometimes vent a bit here. It's not something I'm really proud of but I do what I can. I prefer smaller group discussions or one on one in person more than a larger group online. People who know me well personally (even if they don't agree with me) understand I truly look out for the best interests of others even though my beliefs and values are black and white.
I've never been accused in real life of not caring about someone.
However, I don't use the internet to amuse myself....and I can speak for A-BOATER here too. We both really do look for opportunities to show truth to people out of caring. I can honestly say I don't do this for self amusement. I don't even care about winning an argument. If I'm proven completely wrong which happens sometimes...I feel terrible knowing that I gave information that was wrong. I only want people to know the truth...and sometimes I'm wrong....not often in biblical stuff, but occasionally I am with political stuff. I can't keep up with everything in politics more than anyone else can, but I definitely do try to.
And like the last point, there really isn't an act here with me....again....with face to face conversations I just keep my cool better...I'm more patient, but I think people can also see in a face to face situation with me that I do care....even when disagreeing. It's easier to really understand someone cares when you are actually conversing face to face. That doesn't happen here. We see words typed on a screen. I give people here grace because of that, regardless of whether it ever comes back to me. Giving grace when you know it probably won't come back is one of the most challenging aspects of being a Christian. So...no....there is no 'act' here.
Even Rod couldn't hate me in real life. I'd be his next guest on his fishing show.
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Thank you for letting me know about the avatar. I thought it did have a fantasy game origin. Many, many years ago I played the original Dungeons and Dragons, with modules written by Gary Gygax. Though I don’t think I was ever nerdy. Incidentally, I still avidly read and reread the more obscure Tolkien material like The Siilmarillion.
I think the only nerdy thing I do now is think about things that fish eat and keep tropical fish....which may or may be nerdy.
I think things are opening up fishing wise....except a local cutty spot that I wanted to go to tomorrow as I have neither the time nor the energy to go further abroad this weekend. I saw access to it still closed. I did manage to get to a favourite May Interior spot a few times and was happy with my success.
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i hope our brothers to the south can find some peace tonight. their have been 3 nights in a row of police clashing with protesters. hopefully no more blood will be shed. enough senseless violence. politics aside i feel like our bigger brother is sick and i hope they can over come this. cant handle any more hate. way to much of it.
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Robert, maybe we'll wind up fishing together some day through some random turn of events. We could talk about the great outdoors and I bet we'd find some things we have in common ;D Finding common ground is always easier in person than via the internet. Have a great weekend!
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i hope our brothers to the south can find some peace tonight. their have been 3 nights in a row of police clashing with protesters. hopefully no more blood will be shed. enough senseless violence. politics aside i feel like our bigger brother is sick and i hope they can over come this. cant handle any more hate. way to much of it.
Big brother is sick...good way of putting it.
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Big brother is sick...good way of putting it.
Spoonman bigblock fox hammer all mentioning about the unrest.
Making you wonder how many or what % of the police are corrupt / unruly themselves?
Is it 1% or lower or is it 5% ?
4 policemen plus the guy is handcuffed and not resisting !!!
Come on.
The police officer basically is giving the guy the arrest and punishment/penalty on the spot.
Stories in Brazil the police arrest some bank robbers...car chase...the robbers are arrested but brought around the side of the car & shot dead.
There was a black guy choked to death on the sidewalk in NYC by a police officer. Had his arm around the guys neck & squeezed. The black gut was saying ...I cannot breath...killed.
The most famous or infamous was in LA where the black guy was clubbed over and over and over by 4 police.
The police were found not guilty !!!
LA riots for weeks !!!
Hollywood also does not help the fact they have plots that have police killing those they arrest.
One scene in the movie the motor bike policeman pulls over a drug pusher...officer comes to the window & blast away. No more drug pusher.
The police forces are under much distress dealing with people breaking laws....
Under stress some officers go wacky.
Some get into heavy drinking ,depression , some start hitting on or push themselves on the female officers...
Next thing in some cases the lady officer takes her own life !!!
Happens a lot in the military too.
And with the national guard troops and riot police and protestors all crowding about have they forgotten about social distancing ???? Covid 19 .
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Thank you for letting me know about the avatar. I thought it did have a fantasy game origin.
You're welcome
Robert, maybe we'll wind up fishing together some day through some random turn of events. We could talk about the great outdoors and I bet we'd find some things we have in common ;D Finding common ground is always easier in person than via the internet. Have a great weekend!
You never know....and yes, finding common ground is much easier in person.
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Some more covid-19 stuff for anyone still defending DR Tam.
I implore people to stop listening to her. She is nuts. No self respecting person would ever say anything like this.
She literally said that drug users should buddy up and use zoom when doing their drugs.
What happened to the day where good people outright tried to discourage people from using drugs at all? How times have changed.
I for one wish to see a return to common sense and being responsible citizens.
https://www.rebelnews.com/theresa_tam_overdose_deaths_are_up_so_dont_do_drugs_alone?fbclid=IwAR08_4C-VzhqUc9dTSuVQHVEi0exVK72qIDc0B1e9c4xWFZf8wBlDEzNTr4
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Completely understandable that harm reduction isn’t compatible with your black and white beliefs and values ( that you mentioned earlier)
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Completely understandable that harm reduction isn’t compatible with your black and white beliefs and values ( that you mentioned earlier)
Same liberal thought that agrees with taxpayers paying for safe injection sites.
Same stupid logic. Why solve the problem when you can just put a dirty band aid on it. Right Clarki?
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Same liberal thought that agrees with taxpayers paying for safe injection sites.
Same stupid logic. Why solve the problem when you can just put a dirty band aid on it. Right Clarki?
Robert, how would you solve the drug issues facing society today?
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No doubt you are aware that harm reduction isn’t the only approach. Millions of dollars in private and public money is spent in prevention, recovery, treatment and enforcement.
Given the huge public health costs ( not to mention the toll on the lives of individual first responders, or on the family of victims) of overdoses, harm reduction ( when coupled with prevention, recovery , treatment and enforcement) makes good public health and fiscal sense.
Not a dirty bandaid but rather one facet of a response to a complicated and tragic issue.
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Robert, how would you solve the drug issues facing society today?
Dave. It's not an easy problem to solve. I'd be pretty dumb to suggest otherwise.
However, what's happening today is that we are not applying the basic human principals to how we govern anymore. We are moving further and further away from that.
First and foremost...each person must be responsible for their own actions and be willing to face the consequences of their own decisions (good or bad). That is a value that should be engrained in us from the beginning of civilization. Unfortunately it is NOT. Society lives with a sense of entitlement and that they should not have to be responsible for their actions as well as not suffer any consequence for the poor choices they make. The consequences of one's actions whether it effects their health, finances, relationships....etc.....must be on their own heads. Expecting to be bailed out from government and taxpayers from one's poor choices is NOT how society should be run....but we are heading more and more in that direction.
Here is what I would try and implement...and make no mistake...this is an idea that I would run across and brainstorm with other conservatives who are experts in the legalities, logistics.....etc. I do NOT have all the answers for this and would consult with the right people to make sure it gets done properly:
For all the money we spend on 'band aids', I would build 2 or 3 massive rehab centers across the country. Any staff member caught smuggling in drugs for the addicts would be sentenced to death if convicted. Every hard street drug addict would have the choice to go there and get clean or go to prison for when they are caught breaking the law. Yes....being in possession of most street drugs is still a crime and not too long ago you'd get locked up for it.
Then....any drug addict who is put in prison would be in an environment where it would be literally impossible for them to get drugs. Same as the rehab...any staff caught smuggling in drugs for prisoners would be sentenced to death if convicted. The prisoner would be in there for at least a year (give or take)….that should be enough time to get the worst of the addiction out of them.
I think when released, you'd see a 30-50% 'stay clean' rate. The one's who went to the rehabs on their own will would be substantially higher 'stay clean' rate.
As for the ones who keep getting back on the drugs when they get out and continue to steal and break into people's personal property, there would be a 3 strikes rule, and then would register as a career criminal. This is the 3 strikes rule...Career criminals would go to prison for 5 years then released....if they reoffend, then 10 years....then the 3rd time life in prison. By this point it would be a forgone conclusion that this person has no intention of ever contributing to society.
Also, the 'Career Criminal' registration would not just be for drug addicts. Anyone with a long rap sheet would face the same label and prison time....and the 3 strikes rule.
People who don't contribute to society have no right to make life miserable for hard working tax paying citizens. Also, the only difference between a drug addict here and say a....thief, etc....is that the drug addict would actually get a total of 6 strikes before life in prison.
Again...this is just a brainstorm, but I'd like very much to see something of this nature happen.
Of course in this bleeding heart world.....we all know my idea would never survive the first reading.
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Wow.....some ignorant and stupid shite there....most of which has been the go to for the last 200 years and it never did work....seig heil...
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https://www.rebelnews.com/theresa_tam_overdose_deaths_are_up_so_dont_do_drugs_alone?fbclid=IwAR08_4C-VzhqUc9dTSuVQHVEi0exVK72qIDc0B1e9c4xWFZf8wBlDEzNTr4
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Hey Ralph. Instead of bashing Rebel News, why don't you prove that she didn't say that?
She was quoted as saying that....not just by Rebel News.
I'm confused as to why you try to put down the source even though they are right in this case?
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Earlier today, RobertG said “I love to eat Big Bar rainbow”
To which clarki said “I implore you to not eat fish. No self respecting person would eat just fish. It’s a nuts diet”
RobertG’s reply would be “ Don’t be such a liberal snowflake. You are so far left you don’t recognize that of course I don’t eat just fish. If you had a clue you would know that I eat a balanced diet that includes fruits and vegetable and a moderate amount of carbs. The conversation was about fish and that’s what I was speaking about. I wasn’t implying I ate just fish. If you were around other conversations I’ve had in the past you would know that I have talked about eating a wide variety of healthy foods. Don’t be so dense”
Clarki says “my bad, you’re right, I was being a dense liberal left snowflake. Of course I should not take one thing you say and presume that defines your entire position on the subject”
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Robert, thank you for the respectful reply to my question and, for your thoughts.
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Earlier today, RobertG said “I love to eat Big Bar rainbow”
To which clarki said “I implore you to not eat fish. No self respecting person would eat just fish. It’s a nuts diet”
RobertG’s reply would be “ Don’t be such a liberal snowflake. You are so far left you don’t recognize that of course I don’t eat just fish. If you had a clue you would know that I eat a balanced diet that includes fruits and vegetable and a moderate amount of carbs. The conversation was about fish and that’s what I was speaking about. I wasn’t implying I ate just fish. If you were around other conversations I’ve had in the past you would know that I have talked about eating a wide variety of healthy foods. Don’t be so dense”
Clarki says “my bad, you’re right, I was being a dense liberal left snowflake. Of course I should not take one thing you say and presume that defines your entire position on the subject”
For the most part, you are more respectful than most in replying to my posts, but I'm not always sure you are sincere or perhaps you may be just patronizing me.
Sorry....I do realize now that it seems you were not trying to define the whole subject...but I stand by what I said....I do not agree with the government babysitting adults....You really think those drug addicts are watching DR Tam? Do you think they'd listen to her if they were?
Millions of dollars in private and public money is spent in prevention, recovery, treatment and enforcement.
There is no solution that works unless there is an END GAME PLAN to get them off of drugs. None of the current government programs are doing this except the limited rehab resources available. Even then....that only helps those who want help. My posts on this are focused on the ones who do NOT want help. You can't help someone who doesn't want help....and handing over taxpayer dollars to them when at least half the tax payers don't want to support that sort of charity is wrong. Taxpayer dollars are supposed to be used to run a government and services for all people. Charity and generosity has been taught from day 1 to be free will giving....this type of forced charity is coercion.
If you choose to give your hard earned dollars to it....great...I don't choose that.
What DR Tam said and what most other charities that the government provides for drug addicts is NOTHING MORE THAN PALITIBLE CARE. These people are all going to die.....and quickly if they don't actually get off the drugs. You know that as well as I do. They are adults and if they refuse help....they will die soon. The end game MUST result in getting them off the drugs or it's all for nothing.
So DR Tam telling them to use Zoom as a buddy system just goes to show where how useless our government is in fighting the drug problem. She has no end game to stop them from doing drugs and she knows it.
It's really sad that people go down this path of drugs and death.....but unless someone forced the first few needles in them, they have no one to blame but themselves for their own poor decisions which result in devastating consequences. So whether they die from an overdoes today.....or the long-term use of the drug kills them slowly over a few extra months....it doesn't matter. Again....the end result doesn't change. Why should I have to open my wallet for this stupidity? What about my freedom to choose charity? I do NOT choose this charity....maybe you do....but I don't.
Robert, thank you for the respectful reply to my question and, for your thoughts.
You're welcome
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Hey Ralph. Instead of bashing Rebel News, why don't you prove that she didn't say that?
She was quoted as saying that....not just by Rebel News.
I'm confused as to why you try to put down the source even though they are right in this case?
I certainly did not say she did not say that. I assume Rebel News is sometimes capable of copying comment on one page directly to their own. Overall, IMO, the publication has a deserved reputation.
I don't share their or your outrage at what Tam said. It is certainly no less effective than what is in place for people dealing with self isolation and substance dependency. It certainly is a far better short term suggestion than the response you provided Dave which even if it were put in place would take a considerable period of time.
Having worked in secure institutions for most of my professional career I would say it is pretty much impossible to design, in any institution, both the physical security and human aspects to achieve some of the significant things you would like them to do.
At the very least it would be very difficult and expensive (in many aspects of the sense of the word) to do.
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Having worked in secure institutions for most of my professional career I would say it is pretty much impossible to design any institution both the physical security and human aspects to achieve some of the significant things you like them to do.
At the very least it would be very difficult and expensive (in many aspects of the sense of the word) to do.
I agree and is why I said I don't have all the answers for that. I know that drug smuggling into prisons is major problem that there aren't easy answers for. Nonetheless....I think with some time and thought it could be worked out. I disagree that it is impossible....just...well...very difficult to implement.
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Robert, how would you solve the drug issues facing society today?
Robert said he would take a hard stance to combat the drug problem.
The 1000s & 1000s & 1000s of street drug addicts are falling dead ...over doses...or wrecking their own lives / health.....and wrecking their family/loved ones lives....fuelling $$$ to criminals...so the 3 strike rule ...go to prison or rehab is a strict stance...but it takes tough love sometimes.
Countries that take a very very strict stance against drug pushers or drug users do not have people taking over city blocks....discarded needles....high crime rate assaults ....
Drugs ..means long jail time....and even death penalty ...in some of these countries.
Looks mean ....but it sure has curbed the mass numbers of drug addicts that would exist otherwise ...which would mean deaths...crime ...suffering anyways.
How would I solve the drug problem? ( you ask )
Faith based drug treatment centres.....have a 90% success rate.
Why? Because they feel the love of God thru prayer by the concerned loving staff.
Get off drugs and go to heaven too. !
Doesn't get better than that.
Side note: put air mini Launch missiles at pens/jails.....when drones fly in to drop drugs in exercise yds shoot off a missile.
Gotta pick up a loved one's meds..... ( NOT on the street corner but in a pharmacy. )
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I don't share their or your outrage at what Tam said. It is certainly no less effective than what is in place for people dealing with self isolation and substance dependency.
I'm not sure comparing self isolation with substance dependency and/or street drug addiction in that context of using 'Zoom' is going to get you even a 'C+' on a college assignment.
Addiction/dependency and self isolation/loneliness are not usually (but sometimes) overcome by the same methods.
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I was trying to be creative and a little tongue cheek. I'll try it this way instead.
Dr. Tam: Use Zoom with a buddy when you shoot up
You: I implore people to stop listening to her. She is nuts. No self respecting person would ever say anything like this.
Dr Tam: Of course I don’t eat advocate harm reduction and using Zoom as the only response to solve the drug problem I advocate for a broad approach. The conversation was about isolation during the pandemic and that’s what I was speaking about. I wasn’t implying it was the only approach. If you were around other conversations I’ve had in the past you would know that I have talked about a broad spectrum of prevention and treatment measures.
Back to me real time.. If you ask me, two individuals using Zoom to keep each other safe while the take drugs is a great suggestion during this time of isolation. No charity, no wasted tax dollars, no babysitting. Just two people looking out for each other and taking responsibility for themselves and each other.
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well the suggestions were not made in a college assignment and their relative worth depends on context.
As near as I can tell, outside of a welfare cheque most people addicted to illegal drugs get very little support from our society and less from our government. Of those people I have known who have been in the situation or had family in that circumstances had great difficulty getting help.
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Faith based drug treatment centres.....have a 90% success rate.
That is a complete and total falsehood. You must have absolutely no contact with any addiction groups and if one of your church groups is telling you that they’re lying to you. There is no program anywhere that has anything near that success rate.
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Dr Tam: Of course I don’t eat advocate harm reduction and using Zoom as the only response to solve the drug problem
But she still said it.
Back to me real time.. If you ask me, two individuals using Zoom to keep each other safe while the take drugs is a great suggestion during this time of isolation. No charity, no wasted tax dollars, no babysitting. Just two people looking out for each other and taking responsibility for themselves and each other.
This is where you lose me. You bypass the real problem and go for the dirty band aid. You can deny it all you want. Your exact quote here is nothing more than a dirty band aid solution.
The words "responsibility" and "drug addict" don't coexist together. A drug addict will say any lie to anyone to get that next fix. That next fix controls every aspect of his or her being. There is literally zero logical reasoning in that person when they are coming down and need that next fix. Dare I say that they are teetering the edge of not even being human?
Again....it shows you can't get past the dirty band aid and see that a real solution is needed.
You are correct though that this particular statement of hers didn't require tax payer dollars.....nice for a change.
Of those people I have known who have been in the situation or had family in that circumstances had great difficulty getting help.
I don't disagree with that, but maybe if we weren't wasting money on safe injection centers…...maybe instead of handing welfare checks out to drug addicts who in turn hand their welfare check over to drug dealers.....maybe that money could instead be used for rehab. When it comes to drug addicts....the end recipient of their welfare check (paid for by taxpayers) is the drug dealers....period. That needs to stop.
I've heard and read conflicting information on Rehab facilities. One source says there isn't enough Rehab....another says the ones we have are quite often empty so they don't open up more.
Which one is it, because I've heard both arguments equally.
That is a complete and total falsehood. You must have absolutely no contact with any addiction groups and if one of your church groups is telling you that they’re lying to you. There is no program anywhere that has anything near that success rate.
I can't say one way or another for the 90% success rate, but being involved with churches that do it, I can tell you that there is some phenomenal success with it....and the one's who do quit, usually quit for life (both drugs and/or alcohol). That's the power of God when someone asks Him for it. AA type organizations can't even touch that level of success.
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but it takes tough love sometimes.
Countries that take a very very strict stance against drug pushers or drug users do not have people taking over city blocks....discarded needles....high crime rate assaults ....
Drugs ..means long jail time....and even death penalty ...in some of these countries.
Looks mean ....but it sure has curbed the mass numbers of drug addicts that would exist otherwise ...which would mean deaths...crime ...suffering anyways.
I forgot about the hard line some countries take with drugs. It's too easy to get comfortable with our bleeding heart law making here.
It's true that you rarely see drug pushing...discarded needles....etc in those countries....because if you get caught you go to jail or executed.
But we all know those laws would never pass here, because it's not really the drug addicts fault. Here in Canada we blame everyone but ourselves for the predicament we get ourselves into. Why would anyone take responsibility for their own poor choices?
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Holy guacamole. This thread has the most replies in the General Discussion section...ever.
But I did learn that faith based treatment has 90% success rate.
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Here in Canada we blame everyone but ourselves for the predicament we get ourselves into. Why would anyone take responsibility for their own poor choices?
My stepbrother is an addict. We don't know where he is or how he's doing, as he dropped off the radar years ago. He's struggled with schizophrenia his whole life and got into soft drugs as a teenager and hard drugs later in life. The combination of drugs and mental illness is a one-two punch that many people don't recover from. You could argue that we all started off with the same choices in life and that he just made poor decisions but that's far too simplistic an assessment. Sometimes life sucks and some people get dealt a bad hand. Compassion is required, although I admit it's hard to keep in mind when your car window is smashed because someone stole your spare change for drugs.
Unrelated, but how do Christians square their beliefs with support for the death penalty? Honest question. One of the commandments is anti-killing, so that means someone has to violate it to carry out the punishment. I listened to a podcast years ago about a prison warden who was given the task of executing an inmate in a state that hadn't carried out an execution in decades. They practiced for weeks to ensure that things went smoothly. The execution was carried out and it took an incredible emotional toll on the staff. It was a powerful story that sticks with me to this day. I've never had sympathy for murderers and other violent criminals but I've since felt a huge amount of sympathy for the prison staff who must carry out executions. It sounds bad for the soul.
To hear the story, click the link, then click the play button near the top of the page. For those who don't know, podcasts are radio shows that you can listen to whenever you choose. They play in your internet browser or you can download them onto your phone and play them while you drive. This one's about 27 minutes long.
https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-95-the-job-7-20-2018/
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Holy guacamole. This thread has the most replies in the General Discussion section...ever.
But I did learn that faith based treatment has 90% success rate.
GordJ & cutthroat22 as Robert said ....people with a drug problem if they truly meet God ..their whole life changes....vices no longer control them.
Ok did see once about Teen Challenge a Christian drug rehab in over 110 countries ( something like that ) says /claims if a person stays in the 12 month program ( does not drop out ) about 86% is the success rate. So I just rounded it up to 90%.
Just in recent yrs the name changed to Adult & Teen Challenge.
There are local Adult & Teen Challenge treatment centres & right across Canada.
They started in the USA back in the 1960's
Two founders David & Don Wilkerson.
David Wilkerson died about 8-10 yrs ago....He wrote a true account about bringing God to NYC street gangs....the book sold like about 10-14 million copies ( something like that)
Movie of the same title was made as well.
Book and movie called: The Cross and the Switchblade.
You can watch the movie for free on Youtube.
Pat Boone plays the role of Pastor Wilkerson and Erik Estrada plays Nicky Cruz a gang leader of one of the gangs.
The acting and plot is super!!!
Erik Estrada played on Chips ...the motorbike California Highway Patrol. Tv series in 80s I think it was.
Honestly whenever I have watched the movie ...and one point of watching...I have felt the Presence of the Holy Spirit come on me.
This tells me that this movie is anointed by God's Spirit !!!
One of the gang leaders got saved ....many others...Nicky Cruz who wrote 2 or more books ...
One was Run Baby Run and the other....Satan on the Loose....
( also a 30 minute film was done ...Satan on the Loose ....warning about the occult )
There was a famous prison Chaplin ....think his name was Pastor Ray ....he led some of the worst and famous criminals to Christ. Maybe his name was Chaplin Ray.
Either Pastor or chaplain Ray.....
He had books out of criminals who met Christ....a radio program.
There is another famous Christian organization ...they have radio drama of true stories of ex drug addicts ...criminals ...alcoholics ..so on who met Christ. Maybe on Youtube too...
Radio drama.....it's called: Unshackled.
EDIT IN: Don Wilkerson co founder of Teen Challenge got Covid 19 ....but has since beat it !!!!
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unshackled.org
Click on "browse all programs"
There you can listen to true radio drama stories of those who God saved out of many vices...
1370 (think it is)...radio drama true stories !!!
Super....
I bet it will be on youtube too.
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if a person stays in the 12 month program ( does not drop out ) about 86% is the success rate. So I just rounded it up to 90%.
LOL!! Um... If 8 of the 10 people drop out of the program... and 90% of the 2 people who complete the program succeed.... it does not mean the program has a 90% success rate... Uh, it'd be less than 20%... 18% to be exact.
This is why you're not fit for this kind of discussion. every f'n thing is about faith and you lack the skills and knowledge when it comes to real life solutions.
LOL!
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My stepbrother is an addict. We don't know where he is or how he's doing, as he dropped off the radar years ago. He's struggled with schizophrenia his whole life and got into soft drugs as a teenager and hard drugs later in life. The combination of drugs and mental illness is a one-two punch that many people don't recover from. You could argue that we all started off with the same choices in life and that he just made poor decisions but that's far too simplistic an assessment. Sometimes life sucks and some people get dealt a bad hand. Compassion is required, although I admit it's hard to keep in mind when your car window is smashed because someone stole your spare change for drugs.
Compassion is always needed, but everyone has to take responsibility. I feel a little more for those with mental illness though. Sometimes mental illness comes from circumstances that are not the person's fault, like fetal alcohol syndrome, child abuse...etc...etc. You can't help but show compassion for those. My issue however is this: When you get to that age (mental illness or no mental illness)....even if it's as young as 12 or 13...you already know what hard street drugs are going to do to you. You've been taught and warned. When you take it that first time....you've already been taught and warned that one time can get you hooked and ruin your life. So why do they still take it that first time? They aren't addicted yet.....You can't blame mental illness at 13 years of age for experimenting with drugs....no freaking way. They take it because they think it will bring them out of the depths of despair of what their life currently is.....even though they've been warned and taught countless times that it's a dangerous myth.
At the end of the day.....they have only themselves and their own wishful thinking selfishness to blame.
Unrelated, but how do Christians square their beliefs with support for the death penalty? Honest question. One of the commandments is anti-killing, so that means someone has to violate it to carry out the punishment.
Unfortunately, bible translations aren't English language perfect. That does NOT change the fact that the Holy Scriptures are infallible and inerrant and divinely inspired by God.
The original King James version uses the word 'kill' in the 10 commandments where it should say "You shall not murder"
The original Dead Sea Scrolls when translated directly to English undeniably use the word 'murder'.....not 'kill'. Most modern bibles use the word 'murder'. The original meaning of that particular ancient Hebrew word in English is 'murder'
So it is a sin to murder someone. Killing someone is NOT always a sin depending on the circumstance.
The bible teaches that both capital punishment and self defense resulting in the death of the one attacking you is NOT a sin at all.
The bible also teaches though that capital punishment must be done fairly by the law enforcement in a proper court setting. Lynch mobs were never allowed or condoned in the bible.
With that said....some Christians don't agree with the death penalty, but scripture teaches differently. Provided the above steps are taken...there are many instances where God says a person should be put to death.
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LOL!! Um... If 8 of the 10 people drop out of the program... and 90% of the 2 people who complete the program succeed.... it does not mean the program has a 90% success rate... Uh, it'd be less than 20%... 18% to be exact.
This is why you're not fit for this kind of discussion. every f'n thing is about faith and you lack the skills and knowledge when it comes to real life solutions.
LOL!
Actually, you're wrong. It's the same stats as colleges and universities.
The average 'class' grades are only calculated by those who finish the semester. Drop outs aren't included in the stats.
Most programs that are involved in all sorts of life stuff calculate it the same way.
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Actually, you're wrong. It's the same stats as colleges and universities.
The average 'class' grades are only calculated by those who finish the semester. Drop outs aren't included in the stats.
Most programs that are involved in all sorts of life stuff calculate it the same way.
That's right that's right !!!
The only thing I'm guilty of is saying 90% when it's 86% ::)
big fish go to: unshackled.org
And listen to free true radio dramas on the net.
Ya just might get tears in your eyes....
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You two are so ignorant you both make me sick reading your bible slanted BS
Using the bible to justify the fact that you condone killing... because it's not murder? .....pull your head out of your ***
A large percentage of drug addiction comes from having been abused mentally and sexually as a child.
Imagine how many drug addictions and suicides the church has caused!!
You think all those kids that have been diddled by Priests have stable mental health now? You think they can control how they act out, drugs, abuse etc...
How about all the Native kids, whole families, that had their lives destroyed by the church!
Take that shyte rag of a book and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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You two are so ignorant you both make me sick reading your bible slanted BS
Using the bible to justify the fact that you condone killing... because it's not murder? .....pull your head out of your ***
A large percentage of drug addiction comes from having been abused mentally and sexually as a child.
Imagine how many drug addictions and suicides the church has caused!!
You think all those kids that have been diddled by Priests have stable mental health now? You think they can control how they act out, drugs, abuse etc...
How about all the Native kids, whole families, that had their lives destroyed by the church!
Take that shyte rag of a book and stick it where the sun don't shine.
OUCH !
You are throwing lots of darts....
Drug addicts taking over big parts of cities....poo at the storefronts...robbing ...so do we baby people and as Robert stated: put band aids on the problem.
I like his ideas.....give the druggie a choice....go to jail for a year OR 24/7 365 drug treatment facility.
Pushers get jail....both get 3 strikes and your out.
Keep selling or keep using hard drugs and get arrested 3 x ...then ya serve a longer time...
Only way to clean up the people / and bring peace to the streets.
Left to roam about...and light slap on the wrists for selling or using....our cities will have blocks and blocks of drugged people who harm themselves, harm others, plus rob ...smash car windows etc...
Get them off the street ...with food / bed ....which jail or treatment centre will give them.
Selling or using hard drugs...
1 year....then 5 yrs ...if caught selling for 3rd time 10 yrs min.
No 1/3 time off either for good behaviour.
If they act up in jail/ prison add jail time...
I would not want to have the death penalty for pushers/ or drug addicts...
Just did say there are countries that go that route.
We like to zero in on the priests who did this and that to kids or what the church did to natives...
Focus ...so much on one group we made it look like a mt.
Dentists doctors teachers next dr neighbours relatives on and on have abused kids....sexual abuse is out there and even dads towards daughters ...but we sweep it under the rug...no media focus.
Media makes it look like an ant hill.
Church did it...a mt !!!
Am I condoning what some priests or what the church has done ?
No ...sin is sin.
My guess is many priests who have fondled kids etc...never ever had a conversion experience.
They have lots of religious info in the brain but are they truly seeking God from their heart everyday ...
No.
We all know what is right and wrong...conscience.
Some decide to do wrong.
But you do not believe in God or think the Holy Bible is real of important.
With all the wrong in the world you should be blaming the....."Prince of darkness" on how he tricked our 1st parents to disobey God thus good and evil knowledge /curse / sin/ entered the human race and creation itself. You should be pissed at satan.
Word does tell us we have a choice.
Get to know God via prayer and ask for mercy....get salvation and do His will.
Or we can reject God as a fairy tale and never seek Him ...or pray to Him to find out if He exists.
Years ago the idea was to teach natives English ...and then have all natives to be like every other person in Canada...get a career , or job they like ...and we all contribute...pay taxes...
No special interest or treatment.
Well did it work? No. It was a gov. idea ..not only a church idea.
Gov. wanted natives to have tools to function anywhere's in Canada...and not just isolate on reservations.
Lots of mistakes made in the 1930s 40s 50s so on...not only residential schools but also in mental institutions and juvenile detention centres and prisons....so on.
Again only does the media focus on the church.
As for natives many many are trying to better themselves with education / good jobs...and seeing they can achieve and contribute. But my heart goes out to natives who are shy...as they really feel lost many times....there may be violence or sexual abuse....alcohol within the home.
Suicide rate are quite high.
If they only would pray to Jesus and encounter His Holy Spirit. The Truth will set so person free.
The church too hopefully can weed out the bad pastors / priests...more so than in the past.
But as long as the devil demons and sin are in this world ...and as water flows down hill ...everyday evil thoughts words and actions are done...and there will be victims.
God is the world's only hope and answer.
Sinners sin because we are all sinners...
Only God in our life can literally stop sin power from controlling / dominating our life.
When Christ Spirit comes into a person...old things pass away...and the person becomes literally a new person inside.
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had a few of my close buddies over tonight. haven't seen them in a while. had a few drinks. micro dosed on mushrooms, and all the emotions came out. was unbelievable. strong guys that you think have all their cupcakes figured out but even the strongest among us need a shoulder to cry on once in a while. im glad i could be there for them.
what im trying to say is without the micro dose i dont think they would have brought it to the surface. was healthy to get it off their chest. sometimes we think we have it all figured out, but then life kicks you in the balls. most people keep it bottle in but the mushrooms brought it out. theirs a reason why some of these natural drugs have been used for thousands of years and i saw the value in them tonight.
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.................I went way too far with this. I'm disappointed in myself and again....I need to use more discretion at times...and perhaps on days like this just not post at all.
.........please print this out and tape to your computer and let it become your mantra....and could you and a-boater please check your calendars.....it is 2020 not 1820......
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Perhaps we can take a look at what has happened in the past four years. Those that have strong religious leanings think we've all gone too far, are now fairly firm in their beliefs everything is getting back to where they should be.
How has that turned out so far?
There's more divisiveness now then ever before, Nationalism, as such, has enable hatred, racism and most surprisingly, made untruths mainstream and legitimate.
I fear if we keep at this pace, will there be a new inquisition? Or more McCarthyism?
These two pseudo sovereign citizens are truly worrying
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But she still said it.
This is where you lose me. You bypass the real problem and go for the dirty band aid. You can deny it all you want. Your exact quote here is nothing more than a dirty band aid solution.
The words "responsibility" and "drug addict" don't coexist together. A drug addict will say any lie to anyone to get that next fix. That next fix controls every aspect of his or her being. There is literally zero logical reasoning in that person when they are coming down and need that next fix. Dare I say that they are teetering the edge of not even being human?
Again....it shows you can't get past the dirty band aid and see that a real solution is needed.
You are correct though that this particular statement of hers didn't require tax payer dollars.....nice for a change.
I don't disagree with that, but maybe if we weren't wasting money on safe injection centers…...maybe instead of handing welfare checks out to drug addicts who in turn hand their welfare check over to drug dealers.....maybe that money could instead be used for rehab. When it comes to drug addicts....the end recipient of their welfare check (paid for by taxpayers) is the drug dealers....period. That needs to stop.
I've heard and read conflicting information on Rehab facilities. One source says there isn't enough Rehab....another says the ones we have are quite often empty so they don't open up more.
Which one is it, because I've heard both arguments equally.
I can't say one way or another for the 90% success rate, but being involved with churches that do it, I can tell you that there is some phenomenal success with it....and the one's who do quit, usually quit for life (both drugs and/or alcohol). That's the power of God when someone asks Him for it. AA type organizations can't even touch that level of success.
How about thinking of safe injection sites as a way of keeping used sharps off the streets, as they are properly disposed of after use in those facilities. A clean secure supply of drugs, medicine, required for those inflicted with an addiction disease. Would go along way to removing the criminal aspect of things. Any monies exchanged would go back in gov coffers and and not organized crime. Unless you consider the government as organized or criminal...( But that's for another discussion.)
These steps along with establishing and ensuring "a livable wage" will go along way to reducing the social ills of a tragic disease. Addictions are just that , not a choice, but a tragic disease. As you mention RG, drug addicts needing there next fix, don't choose to degrade themselves and others , they are forced to by the physical affects of their disease of addiction. It's not brain surgery, Portugal has figured it out. Expecting religious dogma to solve a physical disease, or punishment to solve a physical addiction is just cruel and inhumane.
my2cents
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How about thinking of safe injection sites as a way of keeping used sharps off the streets, as they are properly disposed of after use in those facilities. A clean secure supply of drugs, medicine, required for those inflicted with an addiction disease. Would go along way to removing the criminal aspect of things. Any monies exchanged would go back in gov coffers and and not organized crime. Unless you consider the government as organized or criminal...( But that's for another discussion.)
These steps along with establishing and ensuring "a livable wage" will go along way to reducing the social ills of a tragic disease. Addictions are just that , not a choice, but a tragic disease. As you mention RG, drug addicts needing there next fix, don't choose to degrade themselves and others , they are forced to by the physical affects of their disease of addiction. It's not brain surgery, Portugal has figured it out. Expecting religious dogma to solve a physical disease, or punishment to solve a physical addiction is just cruel and inhumane.
my2cents
There has been safe injection sites in Vancouver for over a decade and the amount of dirty needles on the street has increased. They don't work. If anything this path of enabling users has gone sideways. Never before has modern society bent over backwards for these people in an attempt to make things better but its backfired. Crime is up, drug use is up, there are more illegal drugs on the atreets and gang crime has increased. Being liberal with crime, drugs and gangs does not work. We have over 20 years of proof that it doesn't work. What does work is chopping hands off. Its worked for a very long time in the middle east. You steel, chop a hand off. First degree murder, death sentence. In possession of an illegal firearm, life in prison, you deal deadly drugs, life in prison. Eventually people get the msg.
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As someone who has been involved with a couple of addicts over the last 20 years I can say with some authority that faith based treatments and a couple of other methods are not very effective at treating addictions. You cannot pray away addiction anymore than you can pray away the gay. There are a myriad of problems at the root of addiction and to think that there is a “cure” is dreaming. One of my friends father told me that he came home one day and found his 13 year old son in his bedroom chugging on a vodka bottle, good family that was heavily involved in the kids sports, camped and vacationed together, solid relationship in a multi generational family with a healthy religious background but the kid was never comfortable in his own skin up to the day he o.d.ed. There is no accurate stats on how effective treatment is and if you ask anybody that has had treatment where they got their drugs after a “slip” they will tell you that it was someone they met in treatment.
The only thing I have learned is that the more I learn about addiction, the less I know.
And to say that crime is up is false, stats prove that, just like saying that cutting off hands was effective in stopping crime. Show me some evidence that harsher penalties stop crime, Canadians have been given the death penalty in Texas so it didn’t work there. The penalties for most crimes are harsher in the States but they are world leaders in incarceration and in crimes committed.
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There has been safe injection sites in Vancouver for over a decade and the amount of dirty needles on the street has increased. They don't work. If anything this path of enabling users has gone sideways. Never before has modern society bent over backwards for these people in an attempt to make things better but its backfired. Crime is up, drug use is up, there are more illegal drugs on the atreets and gang crime has increased. Being liberal with crime, drugs and gangs does not work. We have over 20 years of proof that it doesn't work. What does work is chopping hands off. Its worked for a very long time in the middle east. You steel, chop a hand off. First degree murder, death sentence. In possession of an illegal firearm, life in prison, you deal deadly drugs, life in prison. Eventually people get the msg.
Very strict ....
But how is it the members who attack Christians if we mention more strict measures should be taken...and 10 posts attack our stand....you say it....and you did not get any attacks from anyone ????
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Well one by GordJ
Go to unshakled.org Gord and hear 100s of testimonies of ex addicts who found God.
Faith does make a major dif. if truly they get zapped by God.
Zapped by God meaning they have a real meeting /encounter with God.
If God is just a word to you then "this encounter" is a pie in the sky to you.
You cannot understand it.
But ya can or it's possible.
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How about thinking of safe injection sites as a way of keeping used sharps off the streets, as they are properly disposed of after use in those facilities. A clean secure supply of drugs, medicine, required for those inflicted with an addiction disease. Would go along way to removing the criminal aspect of things. Any monies exchanged would go back in gov coffers and and not organized crime. Unless you consider the government as organized or criminal...( But that's for another discussion.)
These steps along with establishing and ensuring "a livable wage" will go along way to reducing the social ills of a tragic disease. Addictions are just that , not a choice, but a tragic disease. As you mention RG, drug addicts needing there next fix, don't choose to degrade themselves and others , they are forced to by the physical affects of their disease of addiction. It's not brain surgery, Portugal has figured it out. Expecting religious dogma to solve a physical disease, or punishment to solve a physical addiction is just cruel and inhumane.
my2cents
Yeah...I'm going to agree with Hike_and_fish on this one. You're kidding yourself if you think there are less needles on the streets. Drug addicts don't care about littering....never have never will...regardless of whether there are safe injection sites or not.
And as for Portugal...they haven't figured anything out.
These steps along with establishing and ensuring "a livable wage" will go along way to reducing the social ills of a tragic disease.
Every time someone says or I hear on the news the term 'livable wage for everyone', I want to puke.
I took Economics in college. Anyone who knows what the progressive left's idea and implementation of a 'livable wage' actually entails..... has NEVER taken Economics 101. It is financially impossible to do. For the government to hand out that type of money every month is so irresponsible. On May 20th 2020, the Liberal government gave an extra 300 dollars for each child on the monthly tax credit to help with Covid related financial woes. I want you to read this carefully. ONE MONTH OF THIS COST TAXPAYERS OVER 2 BILLION DOLLARS.
Think about that. 300 dollars is much less than what a livable wage would be (according to what progressive leftists have suggested)...Some economists have estimated that the cost of an automatic 'livable wage' could easily hit 100 BILLION per year. Please tell me where that money is going to come from? Are you going to pay for it. I sure don't want to. I don't get up at 6AM and go to work so others can sit home and do their street drugs while their 'livable wage' gets deducted off my paycheck. That goes BEYOND socialism.....that's called STEALING.
As someone who has been involved with a couple of addicts over the last 20 years I can say with some authority that faith based treatments and a couple of other methods are not very effective at treating addictions. You cannot pray away addiction anymore than you can pray away the gay. There are a myriad of problems at the root of addiction and to think that there is a “cure” is dreaming. One of my friends father told me that he came home one day and found his 13 year old son in his bedroom chugging on a vodka bottle, good family that was heavily involved in the kids sports, camped and vacationed together, solid relationship in a multi generational family with a healthy religious background but the kid was never comfortable in his own skin up to the day he o.d.ed. There is no accurate stats on how effective treatment is and if you ask anybody that has had treatment where they got their drugs after a “slip” they will tell you that it was someone they met in treatment.
The only thing I have learned is that the more I learn about addiction, the less I know.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This is nothing more than targeted hate at Christianity coming from you.
I have been directly and indirectly involved in faith based healing. I have heard countless testimonies of former drug addicts who found God and never touched drugs again. Some of them 20 years or more clean. Once they found God....their last hit was done and over.
As for prayer.....again.....you have zero idea what you are talking about. You've never experienced answered prayer, so you know nothing about it. Don't tell us who have experienced answered prayer that we were dreaming it all up. I know a miracle when I see one.
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F off with the “go to” garbage. I’ve lived and worked with people who have struggled and for you to suggest that some group of zealots have had success is insulting. I can go to one of your faith healer sites that “prove” that they can heal people but apparently those are the ones waiting for Covid to pass so that they can get back to their business of healing people. Have any of your “faith based” healers ever cured an amputee?
Why do you think that because you have a belief in your god that you are somehow superior to me? I can understand a lot of complex ideas and being religious does not make you any wiser than me, it just means that your belief system (which I and a lot of others have examined and rejected) incites you to pronounce your supposed superiority over me constantly. I’m getting tired of it.
God is a word just like Buddha, Mohamed, Zeus or Odin. They are as important to me as all the other fairies, leprechauns or gremlins. I’m not interested in hearing your views on my beliefs, or in fact, anyone else’s. I’m getting tired of reading the daily ramblings that are meant to lead me to a better path because my belief system has me on a path that I choose to follow. I wish you could keep your proselytizing to your self and stick to non religious posts.
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There has been safe injection sites in Vancouver for over a decade and the amount of dirty needles on the street has increased. They don't work. If anything this path of enabling users has gone sideways. Never before has modern society bent over backwards for these people in an attempt to make things better but its backfired. Crime is up, drug use is up, there are more illegal drugs on the atreets and gang crime has increased. Being liberal with crime, drugs and gangs does not work. We have over 20 years of proof that it doesn't work. What does work is chopping hands off. Its worked for a very long time in the middle east. You steel, chop a hand off. First degree murder, death sentence. In possession of an illegal firearm, life in prison, you deal deadly drugs, life in prison. Eventually people get the msg.
You may be mistaking needle exchange programs for the increase in discarded sharps. By their very " exchange" nature, I'm not convinced they are not the primary source. Most of what you find discarded are, I believe, stolen from clinics and or other illegal sources. The same thing with the safe injection sites... they dispose after use...thus "Safe".
The increase in injection drug use has been due to the explosion of legal Opioid Prescriptions, Thus addicts were formed , then the subsequent drying up of the sources , (only when society realized they were been poisoned, and Big Pharma got sued). Thus an explosion of illicit drug users . Most unsafe and out of control, dangerous to everyone, a situation afflicting many undeserving souls that actually deserve a little compassion instead of your purposed amputation.
As for the rest of your reply...well the rest is not really worthy of response.
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Safe injection sites are not intended to get drug use off the streets or to reduce dirty needle litter.
It's only purpose is to help users who want to reduce the risk of IV drug use.
I know this is a issue involving big controversy and disagreement and drug use is becoming an increasing burden on the community at large.
However I feel very strongly the cause of almost all the problems is the prohibition model. Maintaining these sort drugs illegal has created enormous social costs and huge profit opportunities for organized crime. There is almost no evidence that more laws and harder justice sanctions against users will improve the situation. If you look at the US where in most jurisdictions they are 'tougher', the problems are far worse.
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Somebody: “I have been involved in cancer research”
Robert G: “You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, God is great!”
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Looks like lots of people are being converted! 😆
What a pathetic life A S S boater and Roberto must have. Your happiness is just too overwhelming haha
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Imo,
Gord J is right. You are wrong on this one Robert.
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However I feel very strongly the cause of almost all the problems is the prohibition model. Maintaining these sort drugs illegal has created enormous social costs and huge profit opportunities for organized crime. There is almost no evidence that more laws and harder justice sanctions against users will improve the situation. If you look at the US where in most jurisdictions they are 'tougher', the problems are far worse.
I don't think making hard drugs legal is going to help anyone.
People will still die from them. The argument goes further and the 'left' suggests that the government should give drug users 'safer' drugs to keep them from buying the 'dangerous' drugs off the street.
We've already seen proof this doesn't work. We have legal pot shops now. Most people who buy there are ones for medicinal use. There are some who can't be bothered to by from a dealer, but those who use pot for the sole purpose of getting stoned have continuously complained about the quality of 'shop pot'. Apparently the highest quality stuff is only available on the streets.
I know lots of users from work and other places that have confirmed this and they don't buy from pot shops.
Hard drugs would go the same way. A government approved heroin (much like today's current pot) is not going to be as potent as the addict wants. They will tire of it quickly and look for the harder street stuff.
I honestly think your idea that organized crime would drop much if at all is a pipe dream.
Even if the government gave out free approved heroin and opioids (which has been suggested)….there is NO WAY they are going to give out free meth....and probably not crack either. There is no such thing as ANY type of meth that is safe. Meth will always be organized crime as long as remains as cheap as it is. The amount of meth users is substantial. I think crack will probably follow close behind.
Pure cocaine is simply too expensive and most street addicts can't afford it. Therefore if it's not on the list of government approved drugs...it will still be traded in the underground market alongside meth and crack.....but probably a different level of dealers.
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Somebody: “I have been involved in cancer research”
Robert G: “You have no idea what you’re talking about. BTW, God is great!”
Please don't put a sentence in quotes and insert my name on it when I didn't say that. I never said that.
If anything should be deleted from this topic that is it.
You should never be allowed to make up quotes of something someone did NOT say.
That's as about as low as you can get. Get a life.
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Imo,
Gord J is right. You are wrong on this when Robert.
I've seen it...I've witnessed it...heard the testimonies....all first hand information.
If it didn't happen, that makes me a liar.
If you want to call me a liar, I can't stop you.
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Robert when you described my marriage to catholic you pretty much called my wife a liar. Using words like “IF” and “NOT” when discussing her faith or her happiness you are saying she’s either lying to me about her faith or her happiness. If you don’t like being called a liar then I suggest you read what you’ve typed before pressing post. I also suggest you put away your computer for a while. You need a break.
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Robert when you described my marriage to catholic you pretty much called my wife a liar. Using words like “IF” and “NOT” when discussing her faith or her happiness you are saying she’s either lying to me about her faith or her happiness. If you don’t like being called a liar then I suggest you read what you’ve typed before pressing post. I also suggest you put away your computer for a while. You need a break.
Not even close. I described and explained the truth about Christian faith. I said your wife was either 1 or 2. There was no third option. I didn't say which one she was...so I didn't label her anything.
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I reckon there are many Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, people of all faiths and the faithless on FWR. As far as demographics go likely a fair chunk of Christians out of the 7500 members. Quite curious how only 2 are vocal and the others silent. I'm guessing they find Robert_G's posts and rants completely ridiculous. I question sometimes whether he's serious or a true troll.
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Funny I got PMs from a couple of other Christians on this site after you posted that about my marriage, people I do not know messaging me saying not all Christians are like you and congratulating me on my 31 years of happy marriage. Strangers telling me not to paint all Christian’s with the same brush because they’re not all like YOU. Your world is not the only world Robert. No need to respond my friend. I won’t reply. Lay low, put the computer away, it’ll be good for you. Peace out
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This thread reminds of an inmate I used to deal with when I worked at BC Penitentiary. I had a guy on my caseload doing a life sentence for raping and killing a young girl. He like a lot of other inmates suddenly "discovered" God after he was convicted and sentenced. He would carry a bible around the prison preaching to anyone and everyone about God. I warned him about the possible consequences of his preaching to other inmates. His response was God will protect me. The following week he was stabbed by two inmates in the shower. He was placed in PCU (Protective Custody Unit) for his own protection.
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As far as demographics go likely a fair chunk of Christians out of the 7500 members. Quite curious how only 2 are vocal and the others silent.
There are more people who confess to be Christians that are too afraid or embarrassed to proclaim the gospel and witness wherever they go then there are true Christians that actually do it.
Funny I got PMs from a couple of other Christians on this site after you posted that about my marriage, people I do not know messaging me saying not all Christians are like you and congratulating me on my 31 years of happy marriage. Strangers telling me not to paint all Christian’s with the same brush because they’re not all like YOU. Your world is not the only world Robert. No need to respond my friend. I won’t reply. Lay low, put the computer away, it’ll be good for you. Peace out
I don't care if you reply.
I'll say it to you plainly again.
Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and is married to someone but doesn't give a crap if their spouse goes to hell or not is NOT a Christian...no way no how....period. The bible makes no mistake in teaching that. Like I said....if you're wife is a true Christian, she cries herself to sleep at night at the thought of losing you. I know that is not what you want to hear but it's the truth.
As for the people messaging you....sounds like they don't care either.
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There are more people who confess to be Christians that are too afraid or embarrassed to proclaim the gospel and witness wherever they go then there are true Christians that actually do it.
I don't care if you reply.
I'll say it to you plainly again.
Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and is married to someone but doesn't give a crap if their spouse goes to hell or not is NOT a Christian...no way no how....period. The bible makes no mistake in teaching that. Like I said....if you're wife is a true Christian, she cries herself to sleep at night at the thought of losing you. I know that is not what you want to hear but it's the truth.
As for the people messaging you....sounds like they don't care either.
LOL.... Again how miserable your life away from the keyboard has to be if you are convincing yourself that you're more Christian or happier than someone else's wife? If anyone who's gonna rot in hell, it's gonna be you unfortunately. :D
like I said on many many pages ago, feel sorry for whoever, wife, kids, dogs, whatever, are living with you. What a miserable environment they must be in.
31 years iblly, that's pretty awesome!
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global pandemic, locust swarms in india and anarchy in the streets
end of times...
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F off with the “go to” garbage. I’ve lived and worked with people who have struggled and for you to suggest that some group of zealots have had success is insulting. I can go to one of your faith healer sites that “prove” that they can heal people but apparently those are the ones waiting for Covid to pass so that they can get back to their business of healing people. Have any of your “faith based” healers ever cured an amputee?
Why do you think that because you have a belief in your god that you are somehow superior to me? I can understand a lot of complex ideas and being religious does not make you any wiser than me, it just means that your belief system (which I and a lot of others have examined and rejected) incites you to pronounce your supposed superiority over me constantly. I’m getting tired of it.
God is a word just like Buddha, Mohamed, Zeus or Odin. They are as important to me as all the other fairies, leprechauns or gremlins. I’m not interested in hearing your views on my beliefs, or in fact, anyone else’s. I’m getting tired of reading the daily ramblings that are meant to lead me to a better path because my belief system has me on a path that I choose to follow. I wish you could keep your proselytizing to your self and stick to non religious posts.
GordJ ......ok there are lots of bad examples in Christianity. You say you and your friends studied the subject and rejected.
I like you ...was very critical ...skeptic ......for me to believe in this Christ and Holy Bible my evidence would have to be like seeing my hand with my eyes.
Yes there is my right hand....no one can tell me I do not have so right hand ...
My faith in this Jesus would have to be the same.
A knowing ...a 100% know so....before I would ever say I'm a believer.
Prayer to Jesus with all my heart...and asked if He is truly God and alive.
The Presence of God came on me "big time".
That is when I knew Jesus is the Way Truth and Life.
The Bible talks about a real devil who does not want people to get salvation.
In 1977 an evil presence came into my bedroom !!!
Evil x 1000 !!!
3:30 am.
The demon exited when I commanded it to....using Jesus Name.
Deuteronomy ch 18:10-12...
Warns about the occult / witchcraft practises...
I've known an ex witch and ex satanists as they became Christians. Yes right here in the Vancouver area.
The ex satanists I helped get their story in the Vancouver Province newspaper....the very am it was in the Sat. paper ...a demonic presence came into my room at 3:30 !!! ( as mentioned. )
There was police checking into church break ins and vandalism ....in the LML ...
666 ....satan ......etc were spray painted on the church walls.
I gave some general info to the police...on the occult ...showed them 2 16mm movie projector films on the subject of the occult...but from a Christian prospective.
One film was called The Occult. 60 min.
The other...Satan on the Loose 30 minute film. ( there's a book also titled the same )
I remember asking one police officer who was checking into these church break ins....if he was a Christian ?
He said he was not.
Told him that if this was the work of satanists breaking into churches and doing the vandalism he may be the target of a demonic attack.
The devil does not want a cop arresting satanists ...( concerned he had no protection ) Ephesians 6:10-20.
As it turns out this very officer shot himself in the head with his own gun.
Just saying.....
There was a famous psychic in the Vancouver area....he'd be a guest on CKNW Bill Good radio show.
Many of you know of Bill Good.
He was doing stuff with the 70s Canucks...later on CBC news anchor ...when with GlobalBC news...then to radio....this psychic was also a weekly guest on the live CKVU Vancouver Show. 7-9 pm live with in studio audience. The psychic came on as guest every Tues.
This psychic readings were so specific ...the person who was having a reading done would burst in tears or cry out...
Knowing about demonology "a bit more than the average joe" as I did astral projection ( demonic ability) before coming to Christ....so I knew where this psychic powers came from...so off I went to CKVU tv studios on a Tues.
......my goal was to give this psychic Christian material on warning on the occult.
Possibly this psychic was sincere in his readings and he thought he really was contacting dead people on the other side....to give messages to people wanting a reading...
As it turns out upon entering the front door near the reception ( lady story desk/counter. ) plus a rent a cop...uniformed security guard was also present...and there comes out the psychic...he was about to go into the tv studio.
Got his attention. Gave him the big envelope which he took...I told him it has Christian materials warning on the occult.
He then called over the security guard and whispered something to him.
I was friendly and civil ...but then this security guard totally goes nuts ....grabs my arm and started directing me out of the building...he like totally over reacted...
Even after I went out peacefully and got in my car parked across the street ...the security guy was pacing back and forth on the sideway smoking a cig.
Anyways the following week ...I tuned in the Vancouver Show on the Tuesday..( was live tv Mon to Fri from 7 to 9 pm or possibly 3 hrs...maybe 7-10pm ? ) to see the psychic live ...well he was a no show...
The next Tues he is a no show....
Never heard of him again on CKNW radio or seen him again on The Vancouver live tv program.
Maybe he was on radio or maybe he was on tv but on another day ....who knows ...maybe I just missed it.
Saying all this ...GordJ there is a real prince of darkness who is doing everything he can to keep you and others from truly praying to Christ from your heart.
Scripture says: Those that call on the name of The Lord ( Jesus ) will be saved.
Word also says : those that draw close to God ...God will draw close to them.
A Bible scholar was asked what deep Bible insight did he find in the many yrs of studying the Word.
He replied : Jesus loves me this I know ..for the Bible tells me so.
There is an evil power GordJ that does not want you to be saved.
And do not complicate the gospel...just act on it's simple truth and pray to Jesus directly...
If you really pray....100% you will get a response.
Your searching will be over.
You will never thirst or hunger for any other truth....because you will have found it.
Back in the 1970s there was a public campaign ...I Found It.
On tv commercials billboards...etc...people were asking ...gee wonder what they found?
Then a week or two later : We found new life in Jesus !!!!
ABOUT TO POST...and it says 6 replies have posted......oh well let's make it 7.
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I don't think making hard drugs legal is going to help anyone.
decriminalizing and legalizing are different approaches.
31 years iblly, that's pretty awesome!
the wife and I will hit 42 this year. Neither of us has a religion. Yet her family has included 3 ministers; one grandfather and 2 uncles.
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Knowing about demonology "a bit more than the average joe" as I did astral projection ( demonic ability) before coming to Christ....so I knew where this psychic powers came from...so off I went to CKVU tv studios on a Tues.
......my goal was to give this psychic Christian material on warning on the occult.
Possibly this psychic was sincere in his readings and he thought he really was contacting dead people on the other side....to give messages to people wanting a reading...
As it turns out upon entering the front door near the reception ( lady story desk/counter. ) plus a rent a cop...uniformed security guard was also present...and there comes out the psychic...he was about to go into the tv studio.
Got his attention. Gave him the big envelope which he took...I told him it has Christian materials warning on the occult.
He then called over the security guard and whispered something to him.
I was friendly and civil ...but then this security guard totally goes nuts ....grabs my arm and started directing me out of the building...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I really shouldn't laugh... but you're so gullible and disconnected with reality, it's both sad and funny.
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Wow! :o
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I really shouldn't laugh... but you're so gullible and disconnected with reality, it's both sad and funny.
Laugh all you want.
Because your a fool to fall for the devil's first trick.
His first trick is to have you believe demons do not exist !!!
Lucifer is laughing at you as you laugh at me....but I will have the last laugh but tears of sorrow for those that died in their sin and were transported into an eternal place of torment and nashing of teeth...and cries of sorrows...
You guys must of mis understood Robert.
You guys are either so negative you can not see his simple point or you are on purpose just wanting to argue.
Simple as 1 plus 1 = 2
Namely if a Protestant or a Catholic truly has had an encounter with Jesus thru prayer and they feel the Holy Spirit within their life...they will have a love for the Word and knowing what the Good Book says.
Catholic mass they have 1st and 2nd reading of scripture....
The Apostles Creed is a very powerful prayer...various denominations say that prayer.
Catholics also have priests who are given permission to do exorcisms.
Scripture commands not sujjestion to spread the gospel world wide.
We are His ambassadors ...the church is people ....we make up the body of Christ....
Both main denominations ....have radio internet tv missions ....telling /sharing to people about the Saviour !!!
So here it is : a man and a woman are married.
The man is not a Christian and the wife is a Catholic or Protestant anyways a believer.
Ok let's say they have a good marriage. Fine .
They love each other etc...and care for each other.
But the wife if she is a true born again Holy Ghost Spirit filled Catholic or Protestant ....she will want her husband to believe too one day before he dies.
Why would it be important to the wife?
Because she knows knowing Jesus in your heart is the only way to heaven.
She loves her man ...so she wants him to go to heaven and not to hell !!!
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Nah I think you don't know anything at all, you're the one who's going to hell. ;) :-*
Good thing we have security guards to keep lunatics away from public figures. Safety first.
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Thanks bigfish. Yes 31 years, two fantastic daughters and one amazing granddaughter. Both our daughters were introduced to the Catholic Church and were free to come up with their own conclusions. Neither one is a believer. We are a very close family. How’d we pull all that off when most of us are apparently going to hell in a hand basket ??
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Thanks bigfish. Yes 31 years, two fantastic daughters and one amazing granddaughter. Both our daughters were introduced to the Catholic Church and were free to come up with their own conclusions. Neither one is a believer. We are a very close family. How’d we pull all that off when most of us are apparently going to hell in a hand basket ??
There are lots of fine moral / not perfect people / couples / families who are great wonderful people.
They try to be good , and have a close family !!!
That is super in today's world with all it's problems and vices...
Me I am just saying there is a real God behind this big universe.
Google Food for Life ...the catholic weekly tv program ..
On web it says they want people to have a personal relationship with Jesus.
Not a religious brainwashed head info programmed one.
A personal relationship with Jesus they are talking about is knowing God in a living alive way...where ya can feel the Presence of the Holy Spirit.
It is no more looking at the faith as a history lesson rather it is Jesus living right now !!! He really exists !!! He sends His invisible Holy Spirit to this earth right now...
Anyways as your wife Iblly is a Catholic you may both from the comfort of your living rm check out Food for Life at 11:30 am on a vision tv.
You can view it on youtube too.
Father Goring has youtube vids too...his own channel.
Mind you he. Is a charismatic renewal priest....speaks in tongues ...if ya ever heard about that ?
But his faith in Jesus is sincere.
I mean if Jesus is for real ( know He is) we should give him glory and have daily prayer ( in our own words or Our Father Prayer from our heart...ya can get to walk with God without stepping into a church building.
Maybe in time ...ya will.
Me I'm not twisting no one's arm....just hoping one day you unbelievers will pray one day down the line ......
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'A Christian telling an atheist they're going to hell is as scary as a child telling an adult they're not getting any presents from Santa.'
Ricky Gervais
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Funny how someone keeps repeating no warm twisting, yet can't stop himself from telling people what's real.
Who the F are you to tell a happily married couple what they should watch on TV and how they should live their life? If you are that unhappy, go deal with it.
Me I am just saying I THINK there is a real God behind this big universe.
Fixed it for you.
Imagine sitting around your whole life, waiting to die to go to heaven. I'd say do something constructive for yourself but for you it's too late, just a burden of this society and weighing the rest of us down.
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Funny how someone keeps repeating no warm twisting, yet can't stop himself from telling people what's real.
Who the F are you to tell a happily married couple what they should watch on TV and how they should live their life? If you are that unhappy, go deal with it.
Fixed it for you.
Imagine sitting around your whole life, waiting to die to go to heaven. I'd say do something constructive for yourself but for you it's too late, just a burden of this society and weighing the rest of us down.
Up periscope ...oh what do we have here...seems to be a blow horn letting off some steam... ;D ;D ;D
Hope ya do not have a bad heart like in cardio.
Take it easy pal ...take it easy pal...
You remind me of Paul in the book of Acts before he got saved.
He was totally against the Christians .....then he got zapped by the Holy Ghost / modern language Holy Spirit and became one of the greatest Christians in history.
Yep FA that inmate by the sounds of it got " the real deal" ....saved.
Ya he was stabbed but lived !!!
...ya I think ya did mention yrs ago you worked at the BC Pen.
That BC Pen was fully operating ...when I worked for 2 yrs at a sawmill across the street ( Columbia St. )
There was hostages taken during that time...Mary Steinhouiser or something like that a guard or two maybe... Mary was a classification officer. 3-4 inmates involved.
Guards /police decided to go in shooting and sadly Mary was killed by stray bullet.
1976-78 area of time.
Yes some inmates fake jailhouse salvation to score brownie pts with the warden or lawyers or judges...
But there are those who truly did have a true encounter with God.
And big fish I never said they had to watch Food for Life ....I did say " they may want to. "
Using "you may want to" is not commanding them they have to......gee what a blow horn .... ;D
Goodnight to all including old grumpy ...fish ... ;D
Plus my IPAD is running out of gas....5% power.
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Not even close..... I didn't say which one she was...so I didn't label her anything.
Anyone who calls themselves a Christian and is married to someone but doesn't give a crap if their spouse goes to hell or not is NOT a Christian.
Sometimes when you over use semantics, it comes back to bite you in the ***. You don't have to spell it out word for word for people to know what you're implying. Sugar coating it by saying she cries herself to sleep is presumptuous and also implies that she lacks conviction as a Christian.
Just because Christians don't speak out like you do doesn't mean they're embarrassed or afraid to be rebuked. It only means they don't agree with your approach of "casting the first stone"....because really, that's what you're doing. I know I said I wasn't going engage you in argument, but you're now at point of murmuring and that my friend is something a true Christian will not put up with. You can recite all the verses you want, but if you only use them to win arguments then you truly do not understand the message behind those words.
Remember Matthew 7:3 ? You're always asking me about my beliefs...Now I'm asking you what does this verse mean to you?
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If you went to a youth group as a teenager you have been brainwashed and should seek therapy.
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Remember Matthew 7:3 ? You're always asking me about my beliefs...Now I'm asking you what does this verse mean to you?
that particular verse seems to be popular with some folks here. :D
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global pandemic, locust swarms in india and anarchy in the streets
end of times...
this democratic experiment is really not all that old. it is really being put to the test as of late and unfortunately starting to show some cracks. unchecked capitalism is bring democracy to its knee's. when the two richest people made 60 billion combined since the pandemic started while 40 million people lost their jobs we have a problem. then throw in a police state that punishes the poor disproportionately and its bound to boil over and that's what were witnessing. the people at the bottom have no voice and that will not change under biden. some of his policies help create this mess. then theirs trump poring gasoline on the fire. a revolution is going to happen, its just a matter of time.
dr cornel west sums it up to a tee here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G_QdxqqJs
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It is said that Jesus was a fisherman too, but this tread has derailed a lot. And has become a little un-friendly. Rod where are you??? Oldtimers don't get reprimande??
What if fishes can get Covid?
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Well, this cheap entertainment has been fascinating to follow, it's getting a bit repetitive and boring, so back to regular programming. ;)
I kind of wanted to see how I take comfort that majority of the population are (still) rational and educated enough to choose the right individuals who can lead our communities. As someone who has lived in half a dozen countries and visited many more, I'd say we are doing pretty good here...