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Fishing in British Columbia => The Fish Kitchen => Topic started by: badboi on August 05, 2004, 10:21:33 AM

Title: shiner perch
Post by: badboi on August 05, 2004, 10:21:33 AM
I have seen people catch these tiny perch around some piers.  How do you prepare them?
anyone tried eating them before?
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: JigHead on August 05, 2004, 01:57:22 PM
they are actually...  ok tasting... but since you can only keep like 8.. cant make it much of a meal.... but no one listens anyways. they say chop the head.. pop the guts and deep fry them.
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: newsman on August 17, 2004, 10:43:51 AM
Release those small ones, if left long enough they can reach 2lb in weight. Those little shiners become Pile Perch. I know many people take them when they are too small and exceed the catch limit. If we all could call in a plate number to the DFO, when we witness the abuse, one day we all could catch Pile Perch of a size worth putting on the table. I use to catch those larger Pile Perch regularly when I was a kid in the 60's filleted battered and fried they were excelent.
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: reach on August 20, 2004, 12:48:01 AM
Umm... actually shiner perch (cymatogaster aggregata) and pile perch (damalichthys vacca) are different species.  The shiners only get to 4 or 5 inches.  Perch are an interesting fish in that they don't lay eggs; they have live birth.  If you catch a really fat one, chances are it's a female ready to pop.  Give it a gentle squeeze and watch the babies swim away if they're ready.  :o

They are tasty when pan fried though, if a little bony.  We used to 'gibb' them (cut off head in such a way that you could pull the guts out with the head, like you would a herring) and fry 'em up with butter.   Or just be lazy and fry them whole, and eat carefully.  :)
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 20, 2004, 01:56:37 PM
If you want to catch perch, Comox is the place to go. Lots of them around.
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: The_Roe_Man on August 22, 2004, 12:45:10 PM
At my friends cabin near sechelt we would get shiners , pile, and stripes perch off the dock by lowering it and watching the soft eaters eat our bait.  We could see them eating and could pick which ones we wanted.  The pile and striped perch would only eat shore crabs.  They could get up to around a foot in lenght and be very tasty.
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: newsman on August 22, 2004, 01:04:28 PM
Hey Roe try using those big seaworms off the beach.
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: Sam Salmon on August 30, 2004, 12:48:20 PM
I asked one Vietnamese-I think she was Chinese from Vietnam-how she ate them.
She said "Inna da soup"! ;D
Title: Re:shiner perch
Post by: blaydRnr on August 30, 2004, 10:57:03 PM
if she was italian from the bronx. she would say "inna da soupa!"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: No_way on July 01, 2005, 01:01:30 AM
Another Chinese inspired Recipe

Four out of five stars.


Here's what I did:

Chopped off the heads and scooped out the guts with my thumb.  Then I rolled them in corn starch and deep fried them. 

I'd never eaten little fish like this, but you eat the whole thing, bones and all.  Actually, the crispy tails were my favorite part.

As for only being able to only keep eight, if you eat them on rice with some stirfried greens 4 fish would be a good serving.  They are very rich and very easy to cook and eat.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: BwiBwi on July 01, 2005, 02:42:55 AM
Ya actually medical reports down states have find out that perch actually has higher Omega 3 content then salmon.
PS tried fishing for a HUGE striped perch once its over a foot long. I was using a #10 hook and gues what...
it bit the hook into HALF!!!! Oh pile, striped, shiner perches give birth to live fish and each birth is only about 10.
So please during late spring when caught one that has a swollen belly please release it. It's most likely its a bearing female perch.

We do want them to be still around years from now right  ;)
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: No_way on July 01, 2005, 02:50:49 AM
Ya actually medical reports down states have find out that perch actually has higher Omega 3 content then salmon.
PS tried fishing for a HUGE striped perch once its over a foot long. I was using a #10 hook and gues what...
it bit the hook into HALF!!!! Oh pile, striped, shiner perches give birth to live fish and each birth is only about 10.
So please during late spring when caught one that has a swollen belly please release it. It's most likely its a bearing female perch.

We do want them to be still around years from now right  ;)

We always let the pregnant ones go, but we seem to be the only ones.  For their size perch give a great fight, don't they?!
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: BwiBwi on July 01, 2005, 03:08:03 AM
They sure do. Biggest shiner I've caught was slightly over 4 in.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: No_way on July 01, 2005, 03:23:56 AM
They sure do. Biggest shiner I've caught was slightly over 4 in.

lol that's as big as they get, but on an ultralite rod a big striped or pile perch is a blast!
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: Rodney on July 01, 2005, 11:08:26 AM
Few years ago, we simply gutted the shiners and deep fried whole, they tasted great.

BwiBwi brought up some good points regarding the way perch produce offsprings. I know some anglers only go for perch in the fall and winter months instead so they would avoid the pregnant ones.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: marmot on September 24, 2005, 09:26:24 PM
We were camping last summer on the sunshine coast, caught a bunch of perch, half pile perch and half were striped sea perch.. The striped ones are really beautiful fish, but the pileys were huuuuge!  We ate them at camp by just pan frying them, just like you would a sunfish...very very tasty with a little lemon squeezed on top here and there, and a little pepper.  I think its actually my new favorite tasting fish.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on October 19, 2005, 03:36:14 PM
Yeah we catch pile perch and striped perch when we go up to the sunshine coast and yes they are extremly tasty..... :D...One night i ate about 5 of them.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: BwiBwi on October 19, 2005, 03:47:35 PM
They sure are tasty but trying to catch them with bunch of shiner swimming around is a big challenge in itself.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: IamCanadian on December 07, 2005, 05:44:56 PM
Do you guys fish for pile or stripe perch in Vancouver? If so, where? And what would be the bait of choice.

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: No_way on December 07, 2005, 06:22:03 PM
Do you guys fish for pile or stripe perch in Vancouver? If so, where? And what would be the bait of choice.

Thanks. Ian ;D

Yes.  I've seen more striped perch than pile perch, but that might just be me.

Fish off any dock really, but I only ever saw shiners at Jericho.  People catch then at Ambleside, I catch them at CRAB park.  Most anywhere I guess.

Any bait, but most people think that sea worms work best.  I like salted shrimp meat or squid, but everthing I've tried seems to work.

Good enough for ya?
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: IamCanadian on December 07, 2005, 07:32:41 PM
One more question ;D. why do u have to salt the shrimp? What differnece does it make?

Thanks. Ian ;D
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 07, 2005, 07:43:47 PM
Salting the shrimp makes the meat tougher so it stays on the hook longer.
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: Rodney on December 07, 2005, 09:00:39 PM
FA, you can say that again... or Ian, you can ask that again. (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9027.msg85222#msg852229) ;D
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 07, 2005, 10:21:36 PM
I thought that question was asked before  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: IamCanadian on December 08, 2005, 12:38:07 PM
whoops! Totally forgot! Sorry about that!
Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: Yopesco on July 29, 2007, 09:32:48 AM
The shiners are very tasty, cooked just the way that Marmot said,that's what  I do and I agree, they are great. You can find them in vancouver at barnet marine park but i wouldn't eat those, for me sunshine coast is the best place to get them, also in bowen island, tons of them, it is also a great time for kids and if you get your two kids with you, you can get 24 home!!! My favorite bait for them is a tiny piece of chciken, it stays on the hook even after you've cought several, I have also used a piece of dew worm that you let dry and harden for about 10 min under the sun, it works fine too.
With the big ones, I've never had much luck.

Yopesco

Title: Re: shiner perch
Post by: speycaster on August 31, 2007, 06:34:20 PM
Off the beaches at Fort Bragg California we surf fish for large surf perch. Some up to 24 inches tho those are rare, most in the 18 inch size. Use rock worms and 11 foot rods to get out to the fish. Clean and cook right on the beach, yum ,yum. ;D