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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fatso on October 17, 2018, 03:20:46 PM
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Now that marijuana is legal. ::
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I don't smoke weed, but I do smoke tobacco once a year, and that's on the guys annual fishing trip to Hihium Lake. I don't know what it is, but I find smoking while fishing in my 'toon to be immensely satisfying.
I'll buy a bunch of mini cigars or cigarellos before the trip, smoke like a chimney on the water, and smoke the handful of leftovers while beach fishing when I get back, and then that's it until the following year.
Funny story, this year I had a couple of mini cigars remaining after the annual trip. They were a rather unpleasant smoke, but hey, I paid for them so I am going to put them to use! Had two of them with me on the beach while fishing in waist deep water. Had the first one going in my mouth while I was retrieving. The acrid smoke went up my nose, I coughed, and out flew the cigar into the water. Pfft. A little later, I lit up the last one. Same thing. Involuntary cough and into the water it flew as well. I'm not a very good smoker!
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I don't smoke or otherwise imbibe in weed. I don't know if that will change now that it is legal. I do enjoy alcohol in many forms but don't drink anything while fishing. In the past I found a beer or two in the boat or by a river spoils the experience.
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saw people smoking it walking down the street today
went online and lotsa product was already sold out ! plus canada post is charging flat rate $10
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I don't smoke pot at all. I enjoy a drink or two but I don't drink while fishing... I like having my wits (and balance) about me when clambering around on wet river rocks :P
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lol im glad to see its a bit more civilized on here...
If this was fraser valley fishing addicts apparently you can't catch fish without lighting up a "fish whistle" first.
it aint fishing unless your blazing
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I only really like to smoke pot in the evenings after a couple beers or some scotch,listen to music, read....typical head type stuff.
When I'm fishing I like to get totally in the zone and really concentrate on what I am doing and pot distracts me from that.
I do enjoy golfing stoned. I find that very calming.
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I get my high from fishing not from weed or alcohol.
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Me too👍
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Had to give it up years ago due to random drug testing for the oil companies. Still standing on the sidelines to see if / when they address the issue about it being legal now.
Then it’ll be on like donkey Kong lol.
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I get ripped when fishing. It's part of the experience. Better concentration when high.
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I wonder - it used to be fairly common to find cigarette butts in the gullets of fish I caught on the Vedder. Has anyone ever found the butt of a marijuana cigarette in one? Maybe they only like the bright orange filter ends.
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No pot for me. If I have a lakeside campsite and a dock I may have an evening beer on the boat but that's it. I have friends that smoke pot and fish. They say it makes them better fishermen ( better at anything for that matter ) but they're horrible at it. Also have a tennant that smokes pot at the back corner of my yard. He says it fixes his anxiety. It does not. Hes shifty with or without it.
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Have mixed feelings on this one. If a person drinks a bottle of wine or 4-5 shots of hard booze or 8 bottles of beer in a 2-3 hr span & fishes it would open up the possibilities of boat accident or slipping & falling into the water...but smoking 2-3-4 joints in 2-3 hrs the person would be more stable in my view.
Pot smokers do not get hangovers. It had been many many years since toking up.
Mind you with increased pot smoking I bet there will be more home fires. Also many complaints about bad odours from neighbours. Once we were toking & laughing & a very short lit joint went flying in the air. We looked & looked & could not see where it went. We then lost interest & left the room.
Then we seen smoke. The couch was on fire. The joint went into the side by the armrest & cushions.
We dumped lots of water to put out the fire. The couch was very badly damaged. My friend's mom just bought the couch & was a mere month old.
Maybe more bush fires too will happen.
I'm a Christian & 1000% believe in the forces of good /bad but believe if people smoke pot moderately & safely it's safer & more healthy than some person having 4-5 alcohol drinks or more daily.
My 2 cents. Hemp oil without THC made from the stem leaves...is really healthy for the body. ( cures tons of physical problems ) For me personally have no plans of buying as a few glasses of red wine 2x per week loosens me up nicely to enjoy Elvis gospel or his secular songs.
The RCMP policeman has to wait 26-28 days between shifts if he tokes up !!! What a stupid rule ????
The Vancouver police can toke up the night before & report to his am shift. As long as he is no longer stoned. Lots of things will have to be ironed out "me thinks."
Should be across the board set rules from the Pacific to Atlantic ocean.
Toke up & fish...better bring along some munchies....7-11 stores have stuff pot smokers like. ;D
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A little off topic, but I think anyone who believes legalization will phase out the black market is delusional. If anything it's created a great market for low level distribution. Lastly how do you measure an individual's tolerance to deem it criminal when at work or operating a motorized vehicle? Zero tolerance no longer exist.
On topic...personally, I enjoy the purity of the sport. Being on the river and surrounded by nature without the city noise is enough buzz for me. Besides, unlike when I was growing up the THC level nowadays is potent.
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A little off topic, but I think anyone who believes legalization will phase out the black market is delusional. If anything it's created a great market for low level distribution. Lastly how do you measure an individual's tolerance to deem it criminal when at work or operating a motorized vehicle? Zero tolerance no longer exist.
On topic...personally, I enjoy the purity of the sport. Being on the river and surrounded by nature without the city noise is enough buzz for me. Besides, unlike when I was growing up the THC level nowadays is potent.
The whole industry is shady. I know for a fact criminal organizations were involved in supplying the "medical" dispensaries. I personally know someone that was involved in just one commercial grow show. Let's not be delusional here. If overseas gangs can launder money thru BC casinos and then invest that clean money into the housing market here, the government knowing 100% what goes on, an ex mayor of Vancouer now a senator who was once on a board of governors for one of those casinos and nobody is punished? I'm sure the gangs will find a loophole. They always do. How else will the politicians score extra pocket change
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Smoking herb while fishing - absolutely. Makes every aspect of a day out fishing better. Hear more, listen more, see more - appreciate the beauty of everything around you more.
Pot edibles - nope. Feels too much like a drug or drinking. Stumble around, slip on that one leaf on the trail, feel lazy, cast a few lures into the trees, step on your rod tip, etc.
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
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Like A-Boater, I don't like the smell when it wafts over from a neighbour's, especially since I live in an area with lots of kids. I find the smell a lot stronger than tobacco- even Turkish tobacco.
With the smoke issue, I think that edibles and oils will be the future. I also think that processing like oils and edibles will create a more standardized product, and that companies will be able to make more money from a processed product. Alcoholic products show the alcohol content; I think the THC and CBD contents will need to be listed in the future. Might help with people trying to avoid the old "overtoke shuffle". 8)
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Smoking herb while fishing - absolutely. Makes every aspect of a day out fishing better. Hear more, listen more, see more - appreciate the beauty of everything around you more.
Pot edibles - nope. Feels too much like a drug or drinking. Stumble around, slip on that one leaf on the trail, feel lazy, cast a few lures into the trees, step on your rod tip, etc.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Its been around for thousands of years. Has many medical benefits. Much rather use thc than any pharmaceuticals. What medical benefit does booze have. Zero. Unfortunately some of the population has been brainwashed by propaganda and will always see it as the devils lettuce.
I think the government can do a number on the black market if they price it right. The cheaper they make, the more damage it will do to the black market. Now whether that's the route they take, I doubt it.
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
Hahaaa I love it
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https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/cannabis/2018/10/18/holy-smokes-nova-scotia-as-cannibas-sales-top-660000-on-day-1.html
What I can't understand is why only 1 store is open on Oct 17 in bc yet 12 stores were open in nova scotia. I was listing to the bc minister say that they were ready. 1 store doesn't sound very ready especially when that store isn't even in the lower mainland. Think of all the revenue being lost. Really dropped the ball on that one.
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I think it's like...like...time zones man...
Hey, where's the fish, man?
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I don't smoke or otherwise imbibe in weed. I don't know if that will change now that it is legal. I do enjoy alcohol in many forms but don't drink anything while fishing. In the past I found a beer or two in the boat or by a river spoils the experience.
Am I reading this last sentence correctly?! Yeah in the past a beer(s) has ruined many a fishing experience for me too.
That familiar comforting "crack" of the can opening,
That first refreshing burn of the carbonation,
The "ahhhh...." of your thirst being quenched and taste buds firing on all cyclinders,
Ok who am I kidding - I'll take a beer right now please.
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I think it's like...like...time zones man...
Hey, where's the fish, man?
Dude...where's my float....??
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
Some solid empirical science here folks^^
Alcohol kills livers. And brain cells. And causes people to do really, really stupid stuff. It has ruined many lives and families. Yet not many people get too bent out of shape over all of this.
Chill dude - try a cookie.
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Some solid empirical science here folks^^
Alcohol kills livers. And brain cells. And causes people to do really, really stupid stuff. It has ruined many lives and families. Yet not many people get too bent out of shape over all of this.
Chill dude - try a cookie.
That's because the only time anyone really cares is when it hits home...that's human nature. Smoking cigarettes is worst than alcohol and it's frowned upon in the general population yet the industry doesn't die. Why?....Because it's a multi billion dollar industry that creates revenue for the government. Just like gambling...it's a piece of the pie that they refuse to let go.
I too believe organized crime has infiltrated our government.
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Barely dabbled with it in high school. A puff at a party here and there when it was passed. That was over 20 years ago, I never understood the 'culture' behind.
That said, I ordered some via BC Liquor Distribution online yesterday. Researched a strain that I think would help me and bought $30 worth.
I will see how it goes.
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Has pot been decriminalized or has our society become more criminalized?
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Barely dabbled with it in high school. A puff at a party here and there when it was passed. That was over 20 years ago, I never understood the 'culture' behind.
That said, I ordered some via BC Liquor Distribution online yesterday. Researched a strain that I think would help me and bought $30 worth.
I will see how it goes.
Good on ya!
IMO everyone (excluding kids, etc) should at least try it in one of the many forms of consumption. Especially if you are on some form of sleep meds, anxiety meds, or whatever meds that could be replaced or at least supplemented with THC or CBD. Really don't get people who "refuse to try it" yet are on T3s for this, gaba pentin for that, sleep meds, whatever. I get sometimes pills are needed (ie when you are at work and cant be stoned) but when you are at home an have a half day to kill at least TRY the friggen stuff, and see if you get some benefit from it. If smoking does not appeal to you try edibles, tea, and so on. So many subtle options. Heck you can even get it in a pill/capsule if you just have to pop a pill in your mouth to get the desired effect. If you just don't like the effects then no big deal. It's not going to "kill your brain cells" any more than inhaling some fumes working with contact cement or whatever.
Plus drugs kill off the weak brains cells, allowing the strong ones to flourish. So, actually - drugs make you smarter.
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Good on ya!
IMO everyone (excluding kids, etc) should at least try it in one of the many forms of consumption. Especially if you are on some form of sleep meds, anxiety meds, or whatever meds that could be replaced or at least supplemented with THC or CBD. Really don't get people who "refuse to try it" yet are on T3s for this, gaba pentin for that, sleep meds, whatever. I get sometimes pills are needed (ie when you are at work and cant be stoned) but when you are at home an have a half day to kill at least TRY the friggen stuff, and see if you get some benefit from it. If smoking does not appeal to you try edibles, tea, and so on. So many subtle options. Heck you can even get it in a pill/capsule if you just have to pop a pill in your mouth to get the desired effect. If you just don't like the effects then no big deal. It's not going to "kill your brain cells" any more than inhaling some fumes working with contact cement or whatever.
Plus drugs kill off the weak brains cells, allowing the strong ones to flourish. So, actually - drugs make you smarter.
That you Norm? ;D
I think there will be a lot of people wanting to try pot, but were always afraid of the stigma attached, or what others would think. For those newbies, take it from someone who has used it, off and on, for over 50 years – it’s great stuff!
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Norm?
Me?
No, sorry.
PS. This is my 1000th post. Therefore, I rule.
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Milestoner!
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
This post kills brain cells
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This post kills brain cells
for those without brain cells it doesn't matter if they smoke or not.
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On tv news the other day it told of a medical study from Montreal that smoking pot will narrow blood flow in the brain...blood vessels shink or whatever thus a blockage may happen. Thus we have a stroke.
Hey but taking certain meds on tv commercials says it will help whatever condition & then the ad goes on for 30-45 secs with what damage the med may cause....ya right.
Since my heart attack 3 yrs ago I'm taking 4 meds & they all have warnings ...it can cause this or that problem. Alcohol as someone said already is bad for the liver. This why I've cut down my consumption a lot as blood tests show my liver is damaged. But hemp oil if a quality product 80% of the oil gets into the person's cells !!!
Normal hemp oil goes right thru your bottom end if the delivery system is not there. Body has a hard time to absorb it.
And hemp oil ( not from the seeds but from the stem & flowers are best ) will help on 50 health problems. Amazing stuff. Sleep problems,brain,anxiety,cancer, on & on....
Thus if hemp oil is a wonder product surely smoking 6 joints a week must be healthy for the body.
It's the pot heads who toke up joint after joint ....10-15 joints a day I think will get problems down the line. But who knows; maybe I 'm wrong. Since legalization only 2x I smelt pot in the air when bike riding Ha. Thought I'd come across the ordour more often.
Agree that organized crime is entangled in our country thus how is the quality of the pot we get? Even in the stores? Who knows maybe some of it has been sprayed with whatever chemicals or whatever.
Even stories on booze about having the proper labels etc...but it's a fake product & extra super bad to consume. Story about 4 yrs ago & liquor stores in Britain.
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On tv news the other day it told of a medical study from Montreal that smoking pot will narrow blood flow in the brain...blood vessels shink or whatever thus a blockage may happen. Thus we have a stroke.
There have been thousands upon thousands of studies done on the dangers of smoking weed, but at the end of the day, those who smoke it will ignore the truth because its not want they want to hear. Its a truth that doesn't fit into their 'box'. Everything in life is like that. ….if you ignore the truth, then your opinion on the subject becomes what it true.....isn't that how it goes?
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This post kills brain cells
Lol! Yup.
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There have been thousands upon thousands of studies done on the dangers of smoking weed, but at the end of the day, those who smoke it will ignore the truth because its not want they want to hear. Its a truth that doesn't fit into their 'box'. Everything in life is like that. ….if you ignore the truth, then your opinion on the subject becomes what it true.....isn't that how it goes?
Whatever man. No one is tying to say smoking pot is good for you. Not smoking/eating it is likely going to result in you living a few more years. Personally, I'm not too worried about living until 82 or 89, or whatever. My point is you are unlikely to drastically shorten your life by enjoying cannabis in moderation. Yes, if you smoke joints all day long that is a different story. Much like drinking all day every day, you'll cook your liver. Or eating junk food all day every day, you'll be on that My 600LB Life show.
Pretty much everything aside from broccoli and organic kale chips are bad for you. Who cares?! Enjoy the vices you like in moderation.
We all know you hate weed because you secretely and so desperately want to try it now that's it's legal. Just admit it!
Chill dude - try a cookie.
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anyone who thinks they wil not be health, cultural and social downsides to legalization is a fool. The argument for legalization is that it reduces those costs relative to prohibition. Even the health benefits and costs of weed are poorly understood. However conducting a sufficient number of proper studies under prohibition was close to impossible. Mostly we had the extremes of 'reefer madness' vs the extravagant claims of pot head culture.
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I just have to pitch in here...
Nothing changes too much with this new law, or maybe it does , a little I guess.
People who smoked pot , will smoke more now , people who didn’t will laugh more , at the once that smoke more lol, government will profit , hopefully we all will , couse there will have more tax money available for certain sectors , or the crooks that use it...
Just a waist of brain cells, that could of been used usefully ...
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When weed drinks become legal next year they will highly cut into the alcohol market. Get high will little to no hangover.
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I don't smoke weed, never had. But I don't think the matter is black and white.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msx3BAhIeQg
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In Coquitlam today this dude standing in a street corner started blazing and stood there like he was putting on a performance. It was the most hilarious thing I'd ever seen. I wanted to video tape him and put it on Youtube, but unfortunately I hit the green light before I had a chance. Dude had style....but I couldn't tell if he had pyschological issues or if it was just the herb making him act that way.
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In Coquitlam today this dude standing in a street corner started blazing and stood there like he was putting on a performance. It was the most hilarious thing I'd ever seen. I wanted to video tape him and put it on Youtube, but unfortunately I hit the green light before I had a chance. Dude had style....but I couldn't tell if he had pyschological issues or if it was just the herb making him act that way.
went to superstore the other day and couple walking in fired 1 up just in front of me as they walked in !
maybe if i had done the same i could handle the crowds and poor service !
btw, my order finally shipped from the gov store !
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In Coquitlam today this dude standing in a street corner started blazing and stood there like he was putting on a performance. It was the most hilarious thing I'd ever seen. I wanted to video tape him and put it on Youtube, but unfortunately I hit the green light before I had a chance. Dude had style....but I couldn't tell if he had pyschological issues or if it was just the herb making him act that way.
That's a good one.
Guess he was making a statement. POT IS LEGAL. Look at me toke up in the open....
(need Pot Smoker Pride Parades). It's no longer behind a secretive closed door act.
11 PM news tonight we will hear the various city election results & can ya imagine some mayor or alderman/woman toking up as they give their winning speech & thank you !!!!
Sure a lot of tv pot info commercials. Must be costing us taxpayers $$$ to air those ads.
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
Hate kills brain cells too.
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Smoking pot kills brain cells. That's a fact. Take that truth how you want but facts are facts.
....maybe we are too smart for our own good anyways, so killing a few brain cells is a good thing. ;)
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....maybe we are too smart for our own good anyways, so killing a few brain cells is a good thing. ;)
I believe either you are "smart" or you are not. Some of the dumbest, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing people I know are not cannabis users. By contrast, some of the most intelligent/educated people I know are regular users.
Now I'm not saying pot makes you smart. It does not. But it does certainly not "make you stupid." Yeah, smoking a pound a day is probably not a great idea for your brain, lungs, and so on. But a few tokes here and there is no more harmful than anything else that is "bad for you." Deep fried food, movie popcorn, getting hammered off booze, stress, all you can eat sushi, and so on.
It just another way to unwind/relax. Yeah it would be better if you didn't touch the stuff, or drink, or eat Mcdonalds - but common live a little! If you like the stuff then friggen buy some and enjoy it. If you don't like the effects then that's fine too, but don't talk down to those who enjoy cannibas unless you can honestly say you yourself do not make any "unhealthy choices."
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Where fishing vedder today, I suddenly smelt something. Turned my head back, one fisherman holding a centerpin was high there :)
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I can see weed becoming not cool.
Kids can't use it as a cult hero, counter culture crutch, sticking it to the Man, man.
With legal access for all. It's not 'cool' anymore, it just....IS.
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Fatalties in Washington state is up...
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Personally I dont know why the federal liberals made it legal. Its certainly not for the reasons they stated. I dont partake but I know a lot of people who do. Every single person I know that smokes buys from an illegal source and doesnt plan on buying from the government. Even national surveys state this very same thing. Am I to believe the federal government went into this for the reasons they stated ? That they're that genuine? I call BS. There must be another reason. It doesnt make sense.
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Personally I dont know why the federal liberals made it legal. Its certainly not for the reasons they stated. I dont partake but I know a lot of people who do. Every single person I know that smokes buys from an illegal source and doesnt plan on buying from the government. Even national surveys state this very same thing. Am I to believe the federal government went into this for the reasons they stated ? That they're that genuine? I call BS. There must be another reason. It doesnt make sense.
Have you been into a weed shop lately? They are B-U-S-Y. I popped into the one in Chilliwack a few weeks back to see what it's all about. B-U-S-Y. A lot of regular looking folks trying a bit of this or that. Edibles were completely sold out. Many strains of weed completely sold out. I had to wait in line 5-7 min just to ring my purchase through. Other shop I like in Abby seems to be busy any time of the day. I have also heard the BCL website is doing quite well sales wise.
Ya, if you smoke pounds of the stuff and buy in bulk it will be cheaper to get it via "private sale," but I think most people would rather pay a few bucks more and have a similar shopping experience to picking up some beer.
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Personally I dont know why the federal liberals made it legal. Its certainly not for the reasons they stated. I dont partake but I know a lot of people who do. Every single person I know that smokes buys from an illegal source and doesnt plan on buying from the government. Even national surveys state this very same thing. Am I to believe the federal government went into this for the reasons they stated ? That they're that genuine? I call BS. There must be another reason. It doesnt make sense.
It's all about the M O N E Y.
The govt and their corporate overlords are hell-bent on taking over all distribution and charge the same prices that weed was when it was illegal - and re-direct all the money that was keeping small-town BC and Canada going for so many years into their own pockets.
Just have a gander at what POS hypocrites like Julian Fantino & Raf Souccar are up to now after years of ruining lives of many involved in the marijuana trade.
https://www.aleafiainc.com/board-of-directors (https://www.aleafiainc.com/board-of-directors)
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Have you been into a weed shop lately? They are B-U-S-Y. I popped into the one in Chilliwack a few weeks back to see what it's all about. B-U-S-Y. A lot of regular looking folks trying a bit of this or that. Edibles were completely sold out. Many strains of weed completely sold out. I had to wait in line 5-7 min just to ring my purchase through. Other shop I like in Abby seems to be busy any time of the day. I have also heard the BCL website is doing quite well sales wise.
Ya, if you smoke pounds of the stuff and buy in bulk it will be cheaper to get it via "private sale," but I think most people would rather pay a few bucks more and have a similar shopping experience to picking up some beer.
Those shops are black market as are all the ones in Vancouver. "Edibles" are not legal yet. Those shops were open and busy long before "legalization." Those cities turn a blind eye, while New West, Richmond, Surrey, etc will not allow black market shops.
Don't be surprised to see the "illegal" shops shut down one day. when the cities finally licence the legal shops.
Pro tip- much cheaper and convenient to buy from various "illegal" sites online (mail order) than the dispensaries but I don't think it would be appropriate to put links up here.
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Not at all, and definitely not while fishing. I'm not going to judge anyone who does it, especially those who do it for legitimate medical reasons (like severe pain). But it's really not a good idea if you're doing any kind of fishing where you need to be able to think clearly.
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Hahaaa I love it
Life kills brain cells. The older we get the less of them we have.
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That is true, but you can also exercise your brain. Reading, hobbies like tying flies, challenging games, maintaining physical health with exercise etc all slow down the degeneration of the ol melon.
personally I think having $hitty kids would be far more detrimental to your noggins health than puffing a pinner and going to watch bohemian rhapsody.
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Reading, hobbies like tying flies, challenging games, maintaining physical health with exercise etc all slow down the degeneration of the ol melon.
well...fly tying may have been a bit of a stretch... or 'fishful' thinking
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lol, sometimes you gotta reach for the stars.
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personally I think having $hitty kids would be far more detrimental to your noggins health than puffing a pinner and going to watch bohemian rhapsody.
Lol what ?
FYI many studies have proven that people with children live longer lives than folks without. Weather or not those are happy years is yet to be determined.
I used to smoke weed in my early 20's. Glad I quit. I'd probably be a loser with no goals just coasting thru this life like everyone I know who gets high on a daily basis.
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hahaha i'm saying that if you had kids who were out all night, spending time with shifty characters, skipping school and basically stressing the hell out of you, would be worse on your health than having an otherwise relaxed existence and smoking an occasional joint.
I would expect that having solid family bonds would be good for you in more ways than one, even adding a dog to the mix :D.... and I also have friends who consume daily and haven't amounted to anything. exactly as you describe... I also have others who would be deemed very successful by any standard; educated, demanding careers and fairly wealthy.
good on you for recognizing that it would be terrible for you. I think thats something a lot of people don't recognize. which likely contributes to the stoner stereotype.
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There is nothing in life that’s easy , it’s all about how every individual deals with it .
If you have to use any sort of “substance “,to get by ,every day , then there is something seriously wrong there, if you can manage life with out it ,or in slight moderation, then you are certainly on the right track .
I’m not judging anyone , and I never will , but if you can enjoy life in moderation and accomplish
What I said above , you can make your life a lot happier .
This comes from someone who never smoked weed ...
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If you have to use any sort of “substance “,to get by ,every day , then there is something seriously wrong there
I’m not judging anyone , and I never will
No paradox there.
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No paradox there.
You missed the whole point , so trying to explain is a waist of time ...
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You don’t think you were judging when you said “there is something seriously wrong”? What is you definition of judging? It seems to me your post is the definition of judging. I’m not saying that you’re not right in your reasoning, only that you shouldn’t pretend to be non-judgemental.
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perhaps it would clearer if he had just said:
If you have to use any sort of “substance “,to get by ,every day , then perhaps you should consider the possibility you have a substance abuse problem.
There was one simple reason to legalize - to end prohibition of a substance in such common use seeing it in use or smelling it's use is a daily event. In general drug laws and policy in North America are a travesty causing far more harm than good. They are a total waste of our resources and social capital.
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If you have to use any sort of “substance “,to get by ,every day , then there is something seriously wrong there, if you can manage life with out it ,or in slight moderation, then you are certainly on the right track .
; You mean like coffee?
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perhaps it would clearer if he had just said:
There was one simple reason to legalize - to end prohibition of a substance in such common use seeing it in use or smelling it's use is a daily event. In general drug laws and policy in North America are a travesty causing far more harm than good. They are a total waste of our resources and social capital.
I would have to disagree with you. By legalizing marijuana and allowing people to grow them in their homes makes it difficult for law enforcement to distinguish legal activity from criminal. To have a legal possession of 30 grams is totally ridiculous and unnecessary and I believe pushers will have a hay day with this new legislation. Unless caught red handed, how would you prove that a person with that much weed isn't selling to your kids?
The government already has problems controlling the abuse of prescription drugs amongst teens and the inflow of fentanyl that's causing the majority of deaths, not only in regular users, but first timers... now they want to throw this into the mix. It's just like the free injection sites in Vancouver Eastside...nothing more than a haven for people who don't want to get off drugs and are provided with free paraphernalia for the use of illegal activity. It was created and justified as a means to decrease overdoses and prevent the spread of disease, yet the numbers have not changed.
Sugar coat it all you want....in the long run, nothing good will come out of this and I can just imagine the implications this will have on our health care system. Medicinal use is one thing, but categorizing it under recreational is plain irresponsible.
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I think we need dolphin police to get them off that fish they suck on to get high. Criminal behaviour such as that is unacceptable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msx3BAhIeQg
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I would have to disagree with you. By legalizing marijuana and allowing people to grow them in their homes makes it difficult for law enforcement to distinguish legal activity from criminal. To have a legal possession of 30 grams is totally ridiculous and unnecessary and I believe pushers will have a hay day with this new legislation. Unless caught red handed, how would you prove that a person with that much weed isn't selling to your kids?
You can have 30 grams on you. You can have 1000 grams at home... a little above 2 pounds ;)
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I thought it only appropriate to smoke a fatty before replying to this rediculous thread. It never ceases to amaze me how the most judgemental people on the planet seem to be the ones who’s sh#^ don’t stink! While the average ‘stoner’ (in my 42 years of experience) is the most likely to not descriminate, and allow others to live their lives as they please. In other words ‘mind their own business’. I have allergies to hay and grass, etc. and when my neighbors mow the lawn it sends them into overload. The whiff of pot smoke my neighbors smell here and there absolutely pales in comparison. Would I in my wildest dreams ask my neighbor to refrain from mowing his lawn “because I can’t stand the smell”??? On topic with fishing, is it a coincidence that some of the best rods I’ve ever met are regular smokers?I think not. These are some of the most motivated fishermen (also possessing many other wonderful qualities) that you can find. This is my experience. Yours may be different. That’s ok. That’s the thing about this short time we have on this Earth. We each have our own unique and special experience. I let you have yours, let me have mine. If you see me on the river and my smoke really bothers you, politely say so and I will gladly extinguish it or move away. And I guarantee that unless you have just come up on me without my knowing, if you have your kids with you I would NEVER spark a J near them. I am more respectful than that. Of course I can’t speak for everyone. Anyways, I am purposely not going to proof read this post. As a high school drop out, regular joe construction guy, and regular stoner, I dare you to find a spelling or grammatical error in my post. More than I can say for many ‘straight’ members of this forum who’s posts are sometimes barely legible. Tight lines - and, peace man.... 8)
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I would have to disagree with you. By legalizing marijuana and allowing people to grow them in their homes makes it difficult for law enforcement to distinguish legal activity from criminal. To have a legal possession of 30 grams is totally ridiculous and unnecessary and I believe pushers will have a hay day with this new legislation. Unless caught red handed, how would you prove that a person with that much weed isn't selling to your kids?
The government already has problems controlling the abuse of prescription drugs amongst teens and the inflow of fentanyl that's causing the majority of deaths, not only in regular users, but first timers... now they want to throw this into the mix. It's just like the free injection sites in Vancouver Eastside...nothing more than a haven for people who don't want to get off drugs and are provided with free paraphernalia for the use of illegal activity. It was created and justified as a means to decrease overdoses and prevent the spread of disease, yet the numbers have not changed.
Sugar coat it all you want....in the long run, nothing good will come out of this and I can just imagine the implications this will have on our health care system. Medicinal use is one thing, but categorizing it under recreational is plain irresponsible.
“Marijuana pushers selling to your kids” ::) Wake up. If you think there are weed pushers out there trying to get kids high on pot you really have your head in the sand. Kids steel their parents weed and sell it at school, or find other creative means of acquiring it. There is no imaginary underworld of ‘pushers’ trying to hook your kids on weed. And comparing the legalization of marijuana with safe injection sites and drugs like heroin and crystal meth is about as intelligent and educated as your theory of the possibility that anyone possessing 30 measly grams of pot might be out to ‘push’ it to your kids! Hogwash!
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I have hundreds of bottles of wine downstairs. What's the legal limit?
People have no idea the billions and billions of $ wasted on drug enforcement & incarceration. It's absolutely failed. Jails are full of pushers. Users are on probation. Our streets are crowded with wasted addicts. Families destroyed. Absolute insanity. It is time to give up the criminal approach and regulate it as a health issue.
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Sugar coat it all you want....in the long run, nothing good will come out of this and I can just imagine the implications this will have on our health care system. Medicinal use is one thing, but catagorizing it as recreational is just irresponsible.
Perhaps you would care to provide proof of the current ‘implications’ of its already widespread consumption on our health care system? Surely (since it’s use is pretty abundant, especially in B.C) there must be some evidence of the detriment to our society’s health in general. Last time I checked the E.R. and Hospice wasn’t jam packed full of sick and dying marijuana users. In fact -last time I checked, marijuana has helped ease the symptoms and suffering of many patients of many different ailments and diseases. The fact that you say you can understand legalizing medical use in the same sentence as this is an oxymoron
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The fact that you say you can understand legalizing medical use in the same sentence as this is an oxymoron
I think you need to learn the proper use of the word in proper context. So you're saying the act of using prescription pills as a recreational drug is also an oxymoron? If you didn't get what I meant then I can't help you... maybe someone can explain it better.
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I would have to disagree with you. By legalizing marijuana and allowing people to grow them in their homes makes it difficult for law enforcement to distinguish legal activity from criminal. To have a legal possession of 30 grams is totally ridiculous and unnecessary and I believe pushers will have a hay day with this new legislation. Unless caught red handed, how would you prove that a person with that much weed isn't selling to your kids?
I know that this is beating a dead horse but it was literally easier for a kid to buy pot last year than to buy a case of beer or a pack of cigarettes. I was told, years ago, that the main cause of poaching of deer (or moose?) in the Maritimes was the fact that it took about 18 months to get your gun licence and hunting licence.
It is easier to buy a handgun from the street than a legal one. Same with assault type rifles. Most regulated items are easier to obtain from the street.
We are allowed to brew our own beer but I haven’t heard of too many kids buying backyard beer to go to a party.
A large portion of users now use pot to treat their health issues and pot has yet to be blamed for causing any significant issues. Probably fewer issues than salt and sugar.
Of course, there will be a transition with growing pains but the industry will evolve into a production/distribution system that will be monitored and controlled similar to liquor and I firmly believe that most if not all of your concerns will avoided.
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The smell bothers me. Peoples vape, cigs and weed. I am in an unfortunate location. The two houses beside us have sold to new owners and BOTH of them have adult children living at home and smoke weed on a DAILY bassis almost hourly outside on the deck. I cant even take my two kids in the yard or have a family BBQ. It STINKS ALL THE TIME. Not to mention my guests have to park 4 houses down because everyone wants to park on the street in Mission. But that's another story. The weed stinks up our house. We can't even have a window open. I've talked nicely, filed a bylaw complain with the schity anf even got into a few yelling matches with these grown a$$ men that live with their parents. Some people that toke are nice and all that cupcakes but the stink is annoying. Also, I wonder how many homes will become ruined from mold damage now. I doubt the RCMP will be busting anyone with more than 4 plants. We have a full scale grow show at the end of our block. That stinks too :(
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Kids steel their parents weed and sell it at school, or find other creative means of acquiring it. There is no imaginary underworld of ‘pushers’ trying to hook your kids on weed. And comparing the legalization of marijuana with safe injection sites and drugs like heroin and crystal meth is about as intelligent and educated as your theory of the possibility that anyone possessing 30 measly grams of pot might be out to ‘push’ it to your kids! Hogwash!
No imaginary underworld of pushers? Are you kidding me? You ever heard of the terms "matching" and "fronting". Common in the world of dealers. I know because I was involved in that world in my teens and early 20's. Something I'm not proud of, but not afraid to share experiences, with any young people willing to listen. So if kids are stealing pot from their parents to sell to other kids or attaining them in any other "creative" ways...wouldn't that raise a red flag in your own sense of morals? Wouldn't that also constitute as a definition of 'Pusher'?
If you want to compare Apples with Apples...Marijuana THC levels in the 1960's and 1970's pale in comparison with the strains of today that are up to 15 times the potency and increasing. Now cases are popping up of people overdosing on ingested weed that if that was 35 years ago would be a subject of laughter...but who cares right? Because all users of 'today' including minors are well informed and responsible. The days of Red Hair, Cambo, Maui Wowee, Thai, Home Grown, and original Skunk are gone. Now it's not uncommon to get products that are laced. So legalizing it will automatically make things better? Give your head a shake.
I compare it to safe injection sites because of it's potential to become a health issue, more so now, that it's legal and main stream. If you think that's a harsh comparison, come back to me in 10 years and let's see if I'm way off base.
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Laced weed makes no sense !! It wouldn’t burn right and would taste like chit!
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...30 measly grams of pot
That's like 90 joints! :o How many joints can a person smoke in a day that justifies having that quantity at any given time? If one really need that much than they can consider themselves an addict. No different from anyone needing alcohol or cigarettes everyday to get by.
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Laced weed makes no sense !! It wouldn’t burn right and would taste like chit!
Not true...back in the day they laced them with pcp and heroin. Ever hear of Coco Puffs or Hash Sticks? Can be done with plain tobacco and also low level weeds to enhance it's potency.
I only bring it up to help educate. People who knows...will agree.
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Laced weed makes no sense !! It wouldn’t burn right and would taste like chit!
Do you live under a rock ?
Weed can be laced with anything. PCP, coke, fentanyl, heroin, ketamine and anything else really. Even stuff you've never heard of goes on black market weed. Even the agents used to grow it goes into the plants. Maybe one day the government will get a better handle on the growers and enforce strict guidelines. It is one benefit of legalization. The smokers will have a better chance to know what is in it.
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Keep believing everything you hear in the news smart guy clearly you have no idea how weed works
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It’s a plant that grows and any chemicals besides Nitrogen , potassium ,and phosphorus would hurt that plant so therefore adding these other drugs you speak of will probably kill that plant ...next your gonna tell me they dip the buds in coke or pcp whatever right ..
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Keep believing everything you hear in the news smart guy clearly you have no idea how weed works
Really ? There is obviously no point in taking this any further with you. Pot has been laced for decades. You sir have your head in the sand or are trolling.
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Known a lot of growers for a lot of years even scumbag ones too and they don’t lace they’re weed . Maybe somebody has sprinkled some coke into a pre-roll but I doubt it was to get someone ‘hooked’ .. you can tell the difference right when it gets lit it smells like chemical way different than when it’s just bud
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.. you can tell the difference right when it gets lit it smells like chemical way different than when it’s just bud
How would you know if you have no experience with lacing? PCP is a prime example where you can add it to marijuana during the drying stage and by the time you get it you won't know that it's there until after you feel the affects of it. It's odourless and tasteless even during the combustion stage.
Forget the news, listen and learn from those with first hand experience and if still not convinced ask a certified grower or go to your local police detachment and inquire about it. No need to take it from what's written on this forum, just do your research and see if credible authorities in the field concur.
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Known a lot of growers for a lot of years even scumbag ones too and they don’t lace they’re weed . Maybe somebody has sprinkled some coke into a pre-roll but I doubt it was to get someone ‘hooked’ .. you can tell the difference right when it gets lit it smells like chemical way different than when it’s just bud
Sprinkling coke into a PRD is lacing. BTW I never said anything about getting folks hooked.
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The pure and outright ignorance in this thread is an atrocity. Like it really makes ANY f*#king sense for ANYONE to sell a $5 joint to someone laced with $20 (+) of cocaine (or any other drug) is LUDICROUS!! Are you kidding me? I’ve lived a hard life. I’ve been involved in many hard drugs over the years. Not proud, but extremely humbled. And very educated on the discussion at hand. The only things to save me from a life of addiction is 1: my family 2: Fishing 3: marijuana. No way you can convince me of your argument. Wow. For someone who knows all the old school pot strains and terms you really are one special kind of stupid, aren’t you?
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I say kill this thread, it’s going nowhere and has nothing to do with fishing, clearly it’s creating a wedge between good people (as I have to believe that all people generally mean well and are good) but this discussion is pointless obviously. I really don’t care if you smoke weed or not. Why does it so agrevate those that don’t if I or others do? Mind your own. Live your own. Jesus. Get a grip.
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I say kill this thread, it’s going nowhere and has nothing to do with fishing.
No $hit Sherlock...obviously, the main topic was about the use of Marijuana while fishing instigated by the passing of legalization. Don't like it...don't participate. But calling someone stupid because you disagree with their views shows your lack of intelligence... or maybe you're just suffering from withdrawals.
You sir are obviously naive and misinformed...but one thing you are right about is living your own life. How's that for getting a grip? By the way manufacturing synthetics and adding them to low grade weed can increase your margin by four folds. Someone who claims to have been involved in the trade for years should know this. Then again, there's always been discrepancies between users who think they know and those who really do know.
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If you believe that adding synthetics to low grade weed to make it stronger or any better for profit margins then clearly you have no clue what your talking about . It’s almost not funny anymore how so far off you are on this subject yet you still speak from the rear end
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I say kill this thread, it’s going nowhere and has nothing to do with fishing, clearly it’s creating a wedge between good people (as I have to believe that all people generally mean well and are good) but this discussion is pointless obviously. I really don’t care if you smoke weed or not. Why does it so agrevate those that don’t if I or others do? Mind your own. Live your own. Jesus. Get a grip.
I don’t give a rats my friend whether you smoke marijuana or not in a controlled environment that won’t affect others. Smoke away. But I have no desire whatsoever to smell MJ smoke anywhere especially if it wafts into my own home. I’m sick and tired of people saying it’s ok to smoke anywhere they want and we shouldn’t be bothered by it. What kind of self entitled attitude is that? I work near the metrotown mall and every day on my walk to work I can smell the smoke. I can’t avoid it and sometimes it gets on my clothes which gets awkward when I walk into my office building.
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Right. Since you know everything about the drug trade, this is the 2nd time in this thread I’ll ask for evidence of yours or others unfounded statements, and likely the second time my request will be ignored. Show me substantiated evidence of a common occurrence of the poor, innocent, un-knowing pot consumer being duped by a ‘pusher’ with a ‘laced’ joint and I’ll shut my yap. I’m shutting my yap regardless now, I’m done. This conversation is insane. Good night
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I dare you to find a spelling or grammatical error in my post.
Kids steel their parents weed and sell it at school...
I had to do it, I'm sorry ;D
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Bahah!!!!! Thanks Dan wow your good!
(Lol see what I did they’re) ;D
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Bahah!!!!! Thanks Dan wow your good!
(Lol see what I did they’re) ;D
So painful for me lol! Needed to inject some humour in here.
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I always love it when people ask for proof when they can find the answers for themselves simply by googling it. Why would I incriminate myself for the sake of someone else's inability to discredit what I state? No need to take anything I say at face value. There are a lot of agencies backed by pro activists and law authorities that can authenticate facts from fiction. Believe what you want to believe, but that's as far as I'm going because as some of you know, there are members of this forum that are in law enforcement and I'd be a bigger fool to delve deeper into this subject.
But for the sake of argument, I took the time to find and post this after all these shenanigan comments made towards me.
https://greencamp.com/laced-weed/
Take it for what it is...nothing more than information that scratches the surface.
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Pathetic!! Just because you can google it doesn’t mean it’s the truth your gonna find .. kept on searching till you found one that matched how you think hey ..pretty sad you are so misguided on this
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Just going to sit back with my popcorn now. I have a feeling this is just STARTING to get good
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If you believe that adding synthetics to low grade weed to make it stronger or any better for profit margins then clearly you have no clue what your talking about . It’s almost not funny anymore how so far off you are on this subject yet you still speak from the rear end
::) Good one...another fool who contradicts without backing up what they say while demanding definitive proof from the person they disagree with. Hurling insults doesn't make your argument more convincing. If anything it leads one to believe, smoking pot really does damage your brain cells.
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Pathetic!! Just because you can google it doesn’t mean it’s the truth your gonna find .. kept on searching till you found one that matched how you think hey ..pretty sad you are so misguided on this
Once a fool, always a fool. Obviously not everything on the web is credible, but when you go to Health Canada which is a government agency that sanctions the use of legal marijuana, they stipulate warnings of the use of uncertified grow ops and give you additional information on where you can go to ask questions and they will also direct you websites that they deem credible where you can investigate the topic on hand.
Don't let your ego get in the way, as I said before, no need to take what I say at face value....Do your research and prove me wrong! Why would I need to justify anything when there are already dozens of sites that say that I'm right?
...and to be clear, I only googled the information after the last comment asking for proof....everything else I wrote comes directly from personal experience. So take it for what it is because I've gone as far as I'm going with this....Smoke away and have a good trip!
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I have never demanded definitive proof from a fool who has to ‘google it ‘ to find answers and has no real life experience in the matter ..
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I have never demanded definitive proof from a fool who has to ‘google it ‘ to find answers and has no real life experience in the matter ..
I didn't google it for my benefit. I already knew about some of it's contents years before the site even went up. Even before surfing the web became the norm. That my friend is what I mean about experience...not proud of it, but just trying to keep it real.
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Can somebody else please tell this fool how with each post he keeps making himself sound more and more absurd? Wow....
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Can somebody else please tell this fool how with each post he keeps making himself sound more and more absurd? Wow....
Oh yeah...everyone knows people were already surfing the net and googling back in the early '80s. Who's being absurd now? Maybe it's time to ask mommy and daddy what it was like back then...so run along youngster before you make yourself look more foolish.
Okay now I'm done with this thread because there's no point in trying to rationalize facts with pot heads who live in their own world.
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????? That made no sense whatsoever. BlaydRunmer you’re a complete twat. I’ve spent time looking back into your previous posts all over this forum and you are clearly an oppinionated douche bag. Get a life
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????? That made no sense whatsoever. BlaydRunmer you’re a complete twat. I’ve spent time looking back into your previous posts all over this forum and you are clearly an oppinionated douche bag. Get a life
Funny...you took the time and effort to go through almost 1500 of my posts, yet you couldn't even back up any of your statements with facts from the web. I'm gonna call "Troll" on this one.
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Fishing season must be winding down and cabin fever setting in going by the mood in this thread. Gonna be a long winter.......... :(
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Blaydrnr backing up statements by using the internet’s google machine doesn’t mean jack s__t compared to actual life firsthand experience don’t you get it ?? Just because you heard this and that or read it online doesn’t mean you know anything about this topic and it’s obvious you don’t !! Take your face away from your device and live a little there is actually real stuff happening outside start by looking out your windows then work your way up to going out your front door take baby steps I know you can do it ;)
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Actually, anecdotal evidence is less reliable than properly researched fact. I have been smoking tobacco off and on for 45 years and my experience is that smoking does not cause cancer but I suspect it wouldn’t take long to prove my “experience” to be wrong.
Personally, I disagree with blad’s beliefs but I fully support his right to express them.
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Blaydrnr backing up statements by using the internet’s google machine doesn’t mean jack s__t compared to actual life firsthand experience don’t you get it ?? Just because you heard this and that or read it online doesn’t mean you know anything about this topic and it’s obvious you don’t !! Take your face away from your device and live a little there is actually real stuff happening outside start by looking out your windows then work your way up to going out your front door take baby steps I know you can do it ;)
I was talking from experience, but how else can I back it up other than to post something that's accessible to anyone online where they can find evidence of what I was referring to? The original topic was about lacing herb which has been done for decades...it's a fact and I've done it myself as a young man. But for some reason people don't want to believe it or think it makes no sense.
So go ahead and keep saying I'm full of $hit because eventually someone else will come along that knows more than me and they'll be the one to make you eat your words.
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Personally, I disagree with blad’s beliefs but I fully support his right to express them.
I appreciate and respect the way you responded...thank you for that.
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If you think you know sh*t ... 8) and someone says your full of it :o best to keep :-X or someone is gonna :'(
Light up already.... Err I mean ... Lighten up already ;D
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Not sure what compelled me to re-read all 8 pages of this thread. I'm not high but now I kind of wish I was. Painful. So very painful...
I think we all know what to get Robert_G and blaydRnr for xmas!
https://www.simmsfishing.com/fish-whistle-f18
Simms is promoting Cannabis use whhhhhaaaaatttttt!?!!
I always find it ironic that most of the uptight, sphincter clenched 24/7, anti-weed cronies are those who would benefit most from it!!
Chill dude - try a cookie.
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Haha! Great link and if you click on reviews, there’s even one from one of our local fishing celebrities himself! No surprise there! ;D I’m actually soon going to be starting up the worlds first ever “Toke and Wade” service. Guests from all over the world who want the combined experience of sampling some of our country’s finest herb whilst chasing Winter Ghosts in the river can spend the day with myself and a fistful of pre-rolled joints on a guided tour. Cost...? A cool $420 bucks ;D
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Haha! Great link and if you click on reviews, there’s even one from one of our local fishing celebrities himself! No surprise there! ;D I’m actually soon going to be starting up the worlds first ever “Toke and Wade” service. Guests from all over the world who want the combined experience of sampling some of our country’s finest herb whilst chasing Winter Ghosts in the river can spend the day with myself and a fistful of pre-rolled joints on a guided tour. Cost...? A cool $420 bucks ;D
That's not a bad idea actually.
Just stay off the city owned trails and be far away from them so you'll be out of the scope of a bylaw infraction.
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I think it's an awesome idea! Would love to read the business plan ;D
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Haha! Great link and if you click on reviews, there’s even one from one of our local fishing celebrities himself! No surprise there! ;D I’m actually soon going to be starting up the worlds first ever “Toke and Wade” service. Guests from all over the world who want the combined experience of sampling some of our country’s finest herb whilst chasing Winter Ghosts in the river can spend the day with myself and a fistful of pre-rolled joints on a guided tour. Cost...? A cool $420 bucks ;D
Lol! Brilliant!! Just make sure to pack lots of snacks or else you'll be running to 7-11 every couple hrs.
Funny story: fishing yesterday. Taking a cigar and beer break with my fishing buddies. Couple old timers walk by, sparking a dube!! Not that I gave a crap. They were enjoying their day and we were enjoying ours. Just cool to see the shift in attitudes now that the stigma is removed.
Interesting read I found today:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4671669/alcohol-or-marijua
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Now that marijuana is legal. ::
HAHA nice grenade.
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HAHA nice grenade.
I don't get the joke.
You smoking the Devil's lettuce???
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I don't get the joke.
You smoking the Devil's lettuce???
Just enjoying everyone biting on this thread.
And yes on the lettuce.
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Been smoking pot and fishing since i was in my 20's not going to change anything.