Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Steelhawk on October 07, 2017, 08:33:21 AM
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Today is the beginning of the tidal Fraser fishery for coho. Perhaps we should have an update thread on this just like the Chilliwack Vedder thread. I will go out to try this fishery today and come back to report later.
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Was at a busy Surrey area bar. Not a coho by mid morning and that were over 30 rods. Is it a disaster or what?
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lost 2 coho and a cuttroat around Mission, tough day :-\
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Only bullheads for me and a buddy in delta 😤
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Friend an I went this morning and fished by casting lures, caught and kept a 6lb hatchery Doe and I had a few bites and head shakes. Fishing in Langley area
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Commercials out today when I crossed the Alex fraser
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Lost one in the morning in Richmond.
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Lower Fraser area, lost one jack and a few followers on jigs. Nothing at stave lol
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Fished langley area with pink procure roe 8-11ish. I was skunked, saw a chinook jack caught and a couple coho caught. Pretty quiet considering there was about 15 people fishing in my line of sight.
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One dolly and one hatchery jack for us today richmond area.
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2 wild Jacks 3 bull heads among dozen rods in Richmond. The blob killed coho too I addition to pinks and sockeye?
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Probably the blob effect with slow fishing for coho. Lol. Was fishing near Port Mann Bridge at rising tide from 4 to 6. Fish were rolling but not biting. Only the boat guys bagged a coho and a spring and all land based guys were skunked..
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Day one of opening and already speculating the cause of a collapse... lol.
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Dropped by Brownsville to check out the action around 5pm today. Spoke to a couple of guys and they said it was very slow. Only one wild coho caught and released all afternoon.
I then drove along Hwy 17 towards Alex Fraser bridge and saw around 3 commercial nets out.
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Commercial out today again??
Fished ft Langley yesterday from 7-2. 3 of us with roe. Skunked. Lots of rods only saw 2 caught
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They're not commercial nets. First Nations' communal chum salmon openings.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River
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They're not commercial nets. First Nations' communal chum salmon openings.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River
Thanks Rod!
Looks like next weekend will be a lot lass pressure on the fish in the Fraser!
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Day one of opening and already speculating the cause of a collapse... lol.
Same thing Day 2. Only 1/2 the people showed up and most were leaving after just a couple of hours. Let the collapse discussion begin! If you haven't bought a Tidal license yet, may be you can save that money ;)
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Went to brownsville bar park this afternoon. Only 1 guy landed a wild coho and most people didn't even get a single bit. It was completely dead.
Maybe the rain tomorrow will bring the fish in.
How's everyone's Thanksgiving?
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Long day for 2 of us..fished with roe from 9:30-7 on late incoming through outgoing tide, Langley/Abbotsford area. 1 wild and 1 hatch landed, another lost close to shore, many missed bites, all on outgoing tide. Incoming tide was dead on the contrary. Saw only a few jacks landed by others...otherwise quite slow overall.
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After a few hundred cast on the Coho spoon I managed to land a wild Coho just as the tide started to move out . Seen quite a few large fish rolling around after that but didn't entice them to the spoon . Then it went dead . Seen others on there bar rods hit and miss . Good outing though .
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No fish seen in the area I was fishing. More than a dozen rods with no bites from just before peak tide until almost low slack tide. A boat came in and landed an 8 foot sturgeon though.
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Again , lots rolling around but none for the take down today :P
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What's the water clarity at peak tide?
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1:05 AM? Go to bed Rodney! ;)
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Approx . 12 to 18 inches vis . A little less near the banks with the silt and sand churning up .
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They're not commercial nets. First Nations' communal chum salmon openings.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River
Rod do you have a link for commercial openings handy?
TIA
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Fished high tide in Delta for a couple hours today. Nothin but bullheads. Lots of native boats out, didn't look like they were getting much fish, either. Didn't even see a fish rise the whole time I was there (lots of chop in the water from all the boats ripping around with their nets though so, who knows).
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fished Glen Valley this weekend both Sat and today at different times and it was slow. Saw some fish get caught Saturday, but today was dead slow.
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Fished near Port Mann bridge today, lots of fish showing themselves, no takers.
Some sort of nibbly bugger going tap tap tap but no actual strikes...
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The taps are most likely from bullheads or other coarse fish pecking at your bait :P
Fished Langley area Saturday..got skunked..had some decent bites but no hookups. Saw some nice cohos caught, but overall it was slow. Water vis around 2-3 feet in the area I was fishing at.
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Fished Richmond Saturday and Sunday.
Saturday north arm - despite landing three on Tuesday, only One wild jack for me. In total there was about eight fisherman when I was there and only saw one other fish landed though I was only there for about 4 hours.
Sunday north and south arm - not even a bite for me despite two different spots and about 8 hours fishing :( Five hours in south arm with about eight rods in the water and no bites while I was there, only lost gear. North arm about twelve rods and saw 3 small coho landed.
Strangely quiet for mid October - very few fish showing at the moment.
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I think the coho are a week behind. I keep a detailed record of my catches over the years. I take this week off every year for coho. Fished hard the last two days on northern tributaries and only one adult coho to show for it. Last year I had multi fish days every day this week.
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was talking to the gentleman that collects the Coho heads for DFO in Glen Valley today and he was saying he thinks that the Coho are still staging at mouth of the Fraser since the temperature of the water is 4*C warmer than normal, The last few days I haven't seen much if any fish rolling or jumping in Langley area of Fraser River
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i also have been fishing the lower fraser the past few days and have seen next to no rollers. last year at this time seen lots of chum activity. land one small wild for the 2 hours i fished.
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Keep in mind that there have been communal nettings going on all weekends throughout the entire lower river so you're not going to find an high abundance of fish showing themselves except maybe mid week.
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I spent a short time on the North Arm in Burnaby yesterday afternoon. While I saw no fish, water visibility was pretty good. If it hasn't colored up from yesterday's deluge it may be ok today.
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Keep in mind that there have been communal nettings going on all weekends throughout the entire lower river so you're not going to find an high abundance of fish showing themselves except maybe mid week.
I was out again today on a Tidal tributary and no coho around at all. Lots of old chum ( none fresh from what I saw in 5 hours of fishing )
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Fished the glen valley area yesterday and today. caught nothing and didn't see anything being caught on Tuesday but today i heard two jack were caught.
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Looks like it's time to whack the steel head. Hard to release a dead one that's been gilled
Fishery Notice
Category(s): ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll
Subject: FN1079-Fraser River Chum Update - October 16, 2017
In-season estimates of abundance for Fraser River chum are based on catch
information provided by the Albion test fishery. Using Albion test fishery
data through October 15, 2017 the current median estimate for the terminal
Fraser River chum return is 1.29 million chum, with a 50% migration date of
October 15, 2017. There is an 80% probability that the run is between 604,000
and 2.733 million, and a 79% probability that the run will exceed the
escapement goal of 800,000.
The current run size is sufficient to allow for commercial opportunities in the
Fraser River. Additional information on available Commercial TAC and
commercial fisheries planning details will be provided via separate fishery
notices.
Opportunities to harvest chum salmon will be constrained by management
objectives for Interior Fraser steelhead which is a stock of concern presently
co-migrating in the Fraser River. Harvest opportunities in commercial
fisheries, including First Nation economic opportunity fisheries, will be
planned to minimize impacts on these stocks, as outlined in the 2017 South
Coast Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management Plan (IFMP). Fishers are required
to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities avoid
impacts on steelhead. Any steelhead encountered must be released with the
least possible harm.
While no additional in-season updates are planned at this time, we will
continue to closely monitor chum catch at the Albion test fishery over the
coming days. Should new data indicate the need to update the current run size
and timing estimate, additional updates will be provided.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact your local Resource Manager
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1079
Sent October 16, 2017 at 1445
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A bunch of net openings happening that may affect your fishing in the Lower Fraser.
Lower Fraser River First Nations commercial chum salmon openings, October 19th and 20th:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=202276&ID=all
Fraser River mouth commercial chum salmon gill net openings on October 24th and 27th:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=202320&ID=all
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How long is the fishing generally affects after a netting day?
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Richmond south arm fishing today on the outgoing tide. I was skunked but most people around me caught a couple. Been hearing fairly consistently that things picked up over the last three or four days but predominantly jacks. By my notes the jacks show up in larger numbers at the start of the run, hopefully things pick up this next week or so :)
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How long is the fishing generally affects after a netting day?
1 to 3 days depending on the extent of the netting. Expect a shorter recovery for a FN opening and for a shorter & less intense commercial opening. If a commercial opening extends from the mouth to Mission & a large number of boats participate expect longer.
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Fished New West/Delta area from 4:30-6:30. Skunked, had mostly bullhead bites; saw only 1 hatch coho (~4-5 lbs) landed.
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Fished Glenn Valley Friday 7am-10:30 - couple hits but no love. Fished Glenn Valley today 7am-12noon; two of us -two hookups (two long line released). We each used different bait - the two hookups were on year old frozen fire red cured coho roe - nothing on Barry's natural chum.
Not surprisingly, water was very colored - no vis past about an inch or two as far as we could see.....
FN nets out in front of us all day - one guy called RAPP (too much rain for phone internet? LOL) - the opening is until the 29th, so fishing likely will be S L O W :(
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Was pretty good at the bar we were at today, not many rods out.
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Fraser River was high and Mud today at noon around Langley
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Fishery Notice
Category(s): ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll
Subject: FN1119-Salmon - Fraser River Chum Update - October 23, 2017
In-season estimates of abundance for Fraser River chum are based on catch
information provided by the Albion test fishery. Using Albion test fishery data
through October 22, 2017 the current median estimate for the terminal Fraser
River chum return is 1.32 million chum, with a 50% migration date of October
17, 2017. There is an 80% probability that the run is between 596,000 and
2.851 million, and a 79% probability that the run will exceed the escapement
goal of 800,000.
The current run size is sufficient to allow for commercial opportunities in the
Fraser River. Additional information on available Commercial TAC and
commercial fisheries planning details will be provided via separate fishery
notices.
Opportunities to harvest chum salmon will be constrained by management
objectives for Interior Fraser steelhead which is a stock of concern presently
co-migrating in the Fraser River. Harvest opportunities in commercial
fisheries, including First Nation economic opportunity fisheries, will be
planned to minimize impacts on these stocks, as outlined in the 2017 South
Coast Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management Plan (IFMP). Fishers are required
to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities avoid
impacts on steelhead. Any steelhead encountered must be released with the
least possible harm.
While no additional in-season updates are planned at this time, we will
continue to closely monitor chum catch at the Albion test fishery over the
coming days. Should new data indicate the need to update the current run size
and timing estimate, additional updates will be provided.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Barbara Mueller, (604) 666-2370 or your local DFO Resource Manager
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1119
Sent October 23, 2017 at 1302
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Fishery Notice
Category(s): ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll
Subject: FN1119-Salmon - Fraser River Chum Update - October 23, 2017
In-season estimates of abundance for Fraser River chum are based on catch
information provided by the Albion test fishery. Using Albion test fishery data
through October 22, 2017 the current median estimate for the terminal Fraser
River chum return is 1.32 million chum, with a 50% migration date of October
17, 2017. There is an 80% probability that the run is between 596,000 and
2.851 million, and a 79% probability that the run will exceed the escapement
goal of 800,000.
The current run size is sufficient to allow for commercial opportunities in the
Fraser River. Additional information on available Commercial TAC and
commercial fisheries planning details will be provided via separate fishery
notices.
Opportunities to harvest chum salmon will be constrained by management
objectives for Interior Fraser steelhead which is a stock of concern presently
co-migrating in the Fraser River. Harvest opportunities in commercial
fisheries, including First Nation economic opportunity fisheries, will be
planned to minimize impacts on these stocks, as outlined in the 2017 South
Coast Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management Plan (IFMP). Fishers are required
to take every measure possible to ensure that their fishing activities avoid
impacts on steelhead. Any steelhead encountered must be released with the
least possible harm.
While no additional in-season updates are planned at this time, we will
continue to closely monitor chum catch at the Albion test fishery over the
coming days. Should new data indicate the need to update the current run size
and timing estimate, additional updates will be provided.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Barbara Mueller, (604) 666-2370 or your local DFO Resource Manager
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN1119
Sent October 23, 2017 at 1302
Wow other than a minor byline.They really don’t give a crap about the Thompson steelies.
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Wow this thread has sure hit the back burner. For good reason. Fished incoming and high slack this afternoon without a trace of a fish. This time last year there were chums everywhere you looked and good numbers of coho too. Water was still very coloured.
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Just from today..6 jacks, 2 of them hatch, and a 5 lb hatch between 4 of us. Missed lots of good bites too and a few fish lost including a sturgeon! Almost all the action happened during the morning outgoing tide, afternoon incoming was dead...saw some more jacks landed when the tide turned again in the evening.
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http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/op-ed/comment-fraser-river-chum-salmon-unsustainable-fishery-1.23077623
Sad