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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on July 11, 2016, 11:33:36 PM
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Friday, July 8, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 8 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Very few sockeye have been caught to-date in Fraser River sockeye test fisheries. The Whonnock gillnet test fishery began on June 30, the Qualark gillnet test fishery began on July 1 and the Cottonwood gillnet test fishery began on July 7. Marine gillnet test fisheries are scheduled to begin on Monday, July 11. The Qualark hydroacoustics program began on July 1 and the Mission hydroacoustics program is scheduled to begin on Monday, July 11. Assessments will improve next week with the addition of the marine gillnet test fisheries and the Mission hydroacoustics program.
On July 7 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 5,336 cms, which is approximately 9% below average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on July 7 was 16.4 0 C, which is 0.9 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to commercial salmon fishing.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 12, 2016. The first News Release will follow the next scheduled Panel meeting.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement01.pdf
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Tuesday, July 12, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 12 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishery catches continue to be low and as expected based on the pre-season forecast abundance levels. Assessments of Early Stuart sockeye and Early Summer-run sockeye are ongoing. An Early Stuart sockeye abundance estimate should be available later this week.
On July 11 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 4,277 cms, which is approximately 24% below average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Hope on July 11 was 16.5 0 C, which is 0.6 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to commercial salmon fishing.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, July 15, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement02.pdf
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Thanks for keeping us up to date, Rod!
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Friday, July 15, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 15 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
The Early Stuart sockeye migration is tracking within the pre-season forecast abundance range and an estimate of their abundance should be available next week. Early Summer-run sockeye assessments are ongoing and an estimate of their abundance should be available early in August after their peak migration through marine areas.
On July 14 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 4,105 cms, which is approximately 24% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Hope on July 14 was 17.7 0 C, which is 1.5 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to commercial salmon fishing.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 19, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement03.pdf
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Tuesday, July 19, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 19 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catch and escapement continue to track below the pre-season median forecast level of abundance. At the meeting today, the Fraser River Panel approved an Early Stuart run size estimate of 22,000 with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 3. Harrison sockeye currently comprise most of the Summer-run sockeye presently migrating through Juan de Fuca Strait. Assessments of Early Summer- run and Sumner-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July and early in August after their peak migration through marine assessment areas.
On July 18 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 4,514 cms, which is approximately 13% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Hope on July 18 was 17.8 0 C, which is 1.2 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to commercial salmon fishing.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, July 22, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement04.pdf
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Friday, July 22, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 22 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements continue to track below the pre-season median forecast level of abundance at the pre-season timing forecast. However, the abundance in marine areas appears to have increased in recent days. Chilliwack and Pitt sockeye currently comprise most of the Early Summer-run sockeye that are presently migrating through assessment areas. An estimate of the Early Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July after additional assessment data are available. Harrison sockeye currently comprise most of the Summer-run sockeye presently migrating through the Juan de Fuca Strait assessment route. Assessments of Sumner-run sockeye abundance should be available early in August after their peak migration through marine assessment areas.
On July 21 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 4,302 cms, which is approximately 12% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on July 21 was 18.6 0 C, which is 1.6 0C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 20 0 C on July 27. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS: TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Open to drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, July 23, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, July 27, 2016.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, July 26, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement05.pdf
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Tuesday, July 26, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, July 26 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today the Early Stuart run-size estimate remained unchanged at 22,000 sockeye, with a 50% marine timing date through Area 20 of July 3. Test fishing catches and daily escapements are tracking within the expected range based on the pre-season median forecast level of abundance and pre- season timing forecast. Summer run sockeye currently comprise the majority of the Fraser sockeye in marine assessment areas and Early Summer run sockeye comprise the majority of the sockeye migrating in the Fraser River. An estimate of the Early Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available later in July after their peak migration through marine areas. A Sumner-run sockeye abundance estimate should be available early in August after their peak migration through marine assessment areas.
On July 25 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 4,323 cms, which is approximately 9% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on July 25 was 19.2 0 C, which is 1.5 0C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 20.5 0 C on July 31. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS: TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, open to drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, July 23, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, July 27, 2016.
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, July 27, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, July 30, 2016.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, July 29, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement06.pdf
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Friday, July 29, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 29 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements are currently tracking below expectations based on the pre-season median forecast level of abundance and pre-season timing forecasts. Stock assessment programs are ongoing and estimates of Early Summer-run and Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available in early August after their peak migration through marine assessment areas.
On July 28 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 3,868 cms, which is approximately 15% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on July 28 was 19.3 0 C, which is 1.3 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, July 27, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, July 30, 2016.
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, July 30, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 3, 2016.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is tentatively scheduled to occur on Monday, August 1, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement07.pdf
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Tuesday, August 2, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 2 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements are currently tracking below expectations based on the pre-season median forecast level of abundance and pre-season timing forecasts. The run-size estimate of 22,000 Early Stuart sockeye was unchanged at the meeting today. At the meeting today the Fraser River Panel approved a run-size estimate of 300,000 Early Summer sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 22. Stock assessment programs are ongoing and estimates of Summer-run sockeye abundance should be available in later August after their peak migration through marine assessment areas.
On August 1 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 3,587 cms, which is approximately 16% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 1 was 19.3 0 C, which is 1.3 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, July 30, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 3, 2016.
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 3, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 6, 2016.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is tentatively scheduled to occur on Thursday, August 4, 2016 and the next regularly scheduled in-season meeting is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 5, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement08.pdf
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Friday, August 5, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 5 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements continue to track well below pre-season expectations. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Early Stuart run-size estimate from 22,000 to 18,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 3. The run-size estimate of 300,000 Early Summer run sockeye was unchanged. At the meeting today the Panel approved a Summer run-size estimate of 992,000 sockeye (the pre-season p25 abundance forecast) with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 6.
On August 4 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 3,270 cms, which is approximately 20% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 4 was 19.0 0 C, which is 1.1 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 3, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 6, 2016.
Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 9, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement09.pdf
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Friday, August 5, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 5 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements continue to track well below pre-season expectations. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Early Stuart run-size estimate from 22,000 to 18,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 3. The run-size estimate of 300,000 Early Summer run sockeye was unchanged. At the meeting today the Panel approved a Summer run-size estimate of 992,000 sockeye (the pre-season p25 abundance forecast) with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 6.
On August 4 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 3,270 cms, which is approximately 20% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 4 was 19.0 0 C, which is 1.1 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:
Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, extended for drift gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 3, 2016, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 6, 2016.
Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 9, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement09.pdf
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FYI
http://www.cknw.com/2016/08/09/fisheries-minister-announces-measures-to-protect-fraser-sockeye-run/
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Anyone have the web site to see when FN openings are??
The one I had seems to be closed now!!
Thanks
Mike
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Anyone have the web site to see when FN openings are??
The one I had seems to be closed now!!
Thanks
Mike
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River
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Thank you very much Rod!! 8)
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Looking at the # of fish caught by the FNs in the Fraser, the cumulative # of chinook caught in the entire river over the past 4 months is 3422 chinooks. Now if you look at the total number of Sockeye caught by the FNs over the last 6 weeks (July 1st-now) which is 46,664 sockeyes it makes you wonder why the river should be open to FNs netting during the peak of the sockeye run?? What percentage of the fish caught in FNs nets (assuming that they all have been released!) will make it to their spawning grounds? It just doesn't make any sense to have the nets open in the entire river when the forecasted run size is so small.
FN's kept chinook 2016:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/ChinookKeptCatch.html
FN's caught sockeye 2016:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/SockeyeKeptCatch.html
EDIT: Pardon my ignorance! ??? I just looked at the previous FN openings and realized that the FN have been allowed to harvest Sockeye with no limits as of July 31st. So much for minister LeBlanc and his implementation of Cohen recommendations! ::)
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Tuesday, August 9, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 9 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
Test fishing catches and daily escapements continue to track well below pre-season expectations. The Early Stuart run-size estimate of 18,000 sockeye remained unchanged. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Early Summer run-size estimate of 300,000 to 250,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 21. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Summer run-size estimate of 992,000 to 700,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 3. Marine and in-river assessment programs are ongoing and will continue to monitor the migration of Fraser River sockeye.
Fraser River conditions continue to be satisfactory for sockeye migration. On August 8 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 2,881 cms, which is approximately 24% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 8 was 19.1 0 C, which is 1.0 0C higher than average for this date. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 12, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement10.pdf
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Friday, August 12, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 12 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today the run-size estimates for Early Stuart sockeye and Early Summer run sockeye remained unchanged. The Early Stuart migration into the lower Fraser River is complete and the accounted Early Stuart run-to-date is 18,000 sockeye. The approved Early Summer run-size is 250,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 21. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Summer run-size estimate of 700,000 sockeye to 600,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 31. Assessment programs are ongoing and will continue to monitor Fraser River sockeye migration. Assessment of Late-run sockeye abundance should be available next week.
On August 11 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 3,002 cms, which is approximately 17% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 11 was 20.2 0 C, which is 2.10C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 21.8 0 C on August 17. Fraser River discharge levels and water temperatures will be monitored closely to determine if specific management actions are required during the in-river migratory period to help achieve sockeye escapement goals.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 16, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement11.pdf
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yikes, the numbers are pretty bad :-\
Projected to be the worse return on record?
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Tuesday, August 16, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 16 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
At the meeting today there was no change to the run-size estimates of 18,000 Early Stuart sockeye, 250,000 Early Summer run sockeye and 600,000 Summer run sockeye. In-river assessment programs are ongoing and continue to monitor the upstream migration of Fraser sockeye. An abundance estimate of Late- run sockeye should be available later this week.
On August 15 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 2,925 cms, which is approximately 14% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 15 was 20.6 0 C, which is 2.60C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 21.1 on August 21. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range has been shown to cause severe stress and early mortality.
The Panel announced the following regulations for Commercial salmon fisheries in Panel Area waters:
CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:
Remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 19, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement12.pdf
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Friday, August 19, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 19 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
There were no changes to the Early Stuart run-size estimate of 18,000 sockeye. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Early Summer run-size estimate from 250,000 sockeye to 240,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 20. The Panel also decreased the Summer run-size estimate from 600,000 sockeye to 520, 000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 30. At the meeting today the Panel approved a Late-run abundance estimate of 75,000 sockeye, with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 8. The current total Fraser River sockeye return is 853,000 fish with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 27. This would be the lowest total Fraser River sockeye return in the past 100 years. In-river assessment programs will continue to monitor the upstream migration of Fraser sockeye.
On August 18 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 2,706 cms, which is approximately 15% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 18 was 20.6 0 C, which is 2.50C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 19.9 on August 24. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range has been shown to cause severe stress and early mortality.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 26, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement13.pdf
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Friday, August 19, 2016
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 26, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement13.pdf
Blah Blah Blah...
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Actually this one is not so blah blah blah if people take the time to read it and notice the significance of these two sentences being highlighted.
Friday, August 19, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 19 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.
There were no changes to the Early Stuart run-size estimate of 18,000 sockeye. At the meeting today the Panel decreased the Early Summer run-size estimate from 250,000 sockeye to 240,000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 20. The Panel also decreased the Summer run-size estimate from 600,000 sockeye to 520, 000 sockeye with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 30. At the meeting today the Panel approved a Late-run abundance estimate of 75,000 sockeye, with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of August 8. The current total Fraser River sockeye return is 853,000 fish with a 50% marine timing through Area 20 of July 27. This would be the lowest total Fraser River sockeye return in the past 100 years. In-river assessment programs will continue to monitor the upstream migration of Fraser sockeye.
On August 18 the discharge of the Fraser River at Hope was 2,706 cms, which is approximately 15% below the historical average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark on August 18 was 20.6 0 C, which is 2.50C higher than average for this date. The Fraser River water temperature at Qualark is forecast to reach 19.9 on August 24. Sustained exposure of sockeye to Fraser River water temperatures in this range has been shown to cause severe stress and early mortality.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries.
The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 26, 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement13.pdf
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Hmm didn't notice that. Pretty crappy, wonder why there was boats fishing the Fraser 3 or 4 weeks ago around the Patullo Bridge ? time to sell my river gear. At least I have some pics and stories to show and tell the grand kids. Really wish there was a lake only license, I am so done funding a fishery you don't even know if your going to be able to fish. What a mess.
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so pissed, what a mess
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so pissed, what a mess
+1
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The reason they closed the Fraser to Chinook fishing is there was a whole bunch of Chinese flossing for sockeye at laidlaw .
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Wow now we get ignorant racist comments not helpful just sad.
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yeah norton.....not cool!
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If that number (853,000) then that would mean that around 15% of the total run thus far was caught; and that only takes into account the sockeye that were recorded. You can safely add a few additional thousand or more.
So 15% off the top, add more significant loss due to water temperatures... I hate to say it but i think you can chalk up this year marking the total end of salmon fishing in the Fraser. The DFO and the courts gave out enough rope for the every group to hang themselves.
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The reason they closed the Fraser to Chinook fishing is there was a whole bunch of Chinese flossing for sockeye at laidlaw .
Are you sure that is the reason or you just don't like them !!!!!!
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BTW, there's no way they were Chinese...
They were Koreans. ;)
If that number (853,000) then that would mean that around 15% of the total run thus far was caught; and that only takes into account the sockeye that were recorded. You can safely add a few additional thousand or more.
So 15% off the top, add more significant loss due to water temperatures... I hate to say it but i think you can chalk up this year marking the total end of salmon fishing in the Fraser. The DFO and the courts gave out enough rope for the every group to hang themselves.
Yep.
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C'mon, we all know it's fish farms causing the problems 8)
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C'mon, we all know it's fish farms causing the problems 8)
[/quote Finally coming around Dave, good boy. :P
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Just for you Christopher ;D
I'm in agreement with most who have posted on this issue ... very, very poor management by the people who are supposed to looking after this resource. Seems like everyone wants their perceived share, with the fish being caught in the middle by over fishing, poor ocean conditions, habitat loss, and now faced with near lethal Fraser River and tributary river water temperatures.
The sooner people start to think about the well being of our salmon resource, and not themselves and what they think they are entitled too, the sooner we might see a reverse to this trend.
Bottom line, stop killing them. That means everyone.
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Really wish there was a lake only license, I am so done funding a fishery you don't even know if your going to be able to fish. What a mess.
Your basic license sales go to FFSBC... therefore it IS a lake only license (they stock your trout into lakes with the money you pay). You can choose whether or not to add stamps for river fishing.
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Just for you Christopher ;D
I'm in agreement with most who have posted on this issue ... very, very poor management by the people who are supposed to looking after this resource. Seems like everyone wants their perceived share, with the fish being caught in the middle by over fishing, poor ocean conditions, habitat loss, and now faced with near lethal Fraser River and tributary river water temperatures.
The sooner people start to think about the well being of our salmon resource, and not themselves and what they think they are entitled too, the sooner we might see a reverse to this trend.
Bottom line, stop killing them. That means everyone.
Have been doing this on many fronts for a long time as you know. We all most remember CONSERVATION is #1.
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Have been doing this on many fronts for a long time as you know. We all most remember CONSERVATION is #1.
True enough, but it’s all a crock Chris. There isn’t a user group out there willing to stop fishing for the long term benefit of salmon. Sportie groups, FN leaders and their respective band members, Pattison’s commercial boats, are all demanding a piece of a diminishing pie and competing for a depleting stock of fish.
We will see the spin off effects of this soon enough as it’s going to be a tough year in the Interior for bears, eagles, mergansers, etc. And especially so for the trout/whitefish that have adapted to a source of protein, salmon eggs.
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True enough, but it’s all a crock Chris. There isn’t a user group out there willing to stop fishing for the long term benefit of salmon. Sportie groups, FN leaders and their respective band members, Pattison’s commercial boats, are all demanding a piece of a diminishing pie and competing for a depleting stock of fish.
We will see the spin off effects of this soon enough as it’s going to be a tough year in the Interior for bears, eagles, mergansers, etc. And especially so for the trout/whitefish that have adapted to a source of protein, salmon eggs.
Yes there seems to be too many people that just accept what is going on and do nothing about it other than sit behind their computers and complain.
I checked on the TOW er's up river when it was open, 30 cars at one spot and on a weekday too, that means around 60 people that continude to floss when the request was to fish selectively, sad, they are so selfish.
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Here's an idea which has been implemented to try to save some endangered salmon runs in the US (I don't know of Canadian applications) - cryogenics. To supplement future low return years, DFO could harvest more eggs and milt in years with an excess return (like hopefully next year) and freeze them for future use. They can then unfreeze these and spawn them anew in years where there is insufficient brood stock - this would also serve to further spread genes between brood years. This would also help with another problem - predation on out-migrating smolt. Studies on the Fraser have shown that in years with a large successful hatch and out-migration, the large schools of out-migrating smolt lose a much lower percentage to in-river predation (pikeminnow, bull trout, etc.) because there are a finite number of predators.
Of course, this strategy only works so long as the boom year cohorts remain strong. It seems inevitable that the 2020 returns will be dismally low as well, but the 2013 run was healthy compared to the 2009 collapse.
I'm just trying to think of solutions instead of focusing on how dismal this is. There are things we can try to change and things we can't change. Climate change is something we cannot stop at this point, but hopefully that isn't the number one cause of the decline of the Fraser Sockeye. If it is, the only Onchorynchus Nerka south of Alaska may become the mighty Kokanee.
Fish farming? This run may be the final push that Ottawa needs to remove salmon farms from the most sensitive places.
Are these fish being impacted (as "bycatch") in Alaska or in the North Pacific fisheries?
Are billions of hatchery pinks from Alaska and Russia causing a collapse of the ocean food supply, or simply out-competing Fraser Sockeye?
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Your basic license sales go to FFSBC... therefore it IS a lake only license (they stock your trout into lakes with the money you pay). You can choose whether or not to add stamps for river fishing.
Doesn't the FFSBC also produce the hatchery steelhead that are released into our local streams? Otherwise, you are correct - FFSBC (which is Provincially run) has no involvement with salmon. That would be the hatcheries under Federal jurisdiction.
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Majority of your general freshwater fishing licence revenues go to FFSBC, some goes to the Habitat Conservation Trust Foundation. All of the revenues from your conservation surcharges (salmon, steelhead, sturgeon, etc...) go to Habitat Conservation Trust Foundation. None of the freshwater licence revenues go to DFO.
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It's not racist , that's why they closed because they were killing sockeye. The truth hurts your feelings😂?
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Racist to the utmost. As far as most Canadians are concerned, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Malaysians, Singaporeans all look alike to them. So unless they hang a big sign on their chests or carry their national flags like they do in the Olympics, how do you know they are Chinese? Also, are their any Caucasians in there along a big bar? Why you say they are targeting and killing sockeyes? If they are targeting springs by BB and releasing c/r sockeye, that still doesn't justify calling them killing sockeyes unless you intend to create hate. DFO can deal with them if they don't like them doing it. If they are retaining sockeyes, that is a different story. If so, why didn't you report them to DFO and instead here pointing a racist finger to spread hate on a select group? Where is the proof? But your statement is going to be read all over the Internet regardless. That is an outrageously racist post, to make a blanket accusation on an ethnic group without any proof that they were killing sockeyes. A picture like the one with sockeye heads and guts all over the road will help your case. But even with that, you still need to identify them as ethnic Chinese to vindicate your post.
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That is an outrageously racist post, to make a blanket accusation on an ethnic group without any proof that they were killing sockeyes. A picture like the one with sockeye heads and guts all over the road will help your case. But even with that, you still need to identify them as ethnic Chinese to vindicate your post.
well said, SH. Also, the post dismisses the fact that the lower Fraser closure has nothing to do with BB'ers what so ever.
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I again agree with SH . I remember meeting him up and going to Stave for s/h in winter , we used pins and like 1 foot leaders , bunch of white guy b/b , and when he crossed SH , and it was his fault , he cut his line . I was really sad to see that , but amount of those guys was more than we could handle . We moved to a different spot .
If problem is b/b , why dfo cant make simply leader length restriction ?! I was watching quite a few videos on youtube with legit b/b , and leader about 1-2 feet max ... it`s pretty cool to watch and see how fish takes it . But 10+ feet leaders is just retarded :)
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If problem is b/b , why dfo cant make simply leader length restriction ?..
you can neither pay attention or learn can you grasshopper?
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you can neither pay attention or learn can you grasshopper?
I`m sorry , im so broke at the moment that I cant afford to pay attention ... could you explain ?!
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I`m sorry , im so broke at the moment that I cant afford to pay attention ...
as I suspected.
Perhaps someone else will explain - I did at least twice
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so why they can`t ?
they can make us use single barbless hook ....
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Time to put him on your ignore list available in your profile RalphH, I have. Somewhere there is a village being deprived of an idiot.
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wow , person who recommend to include in theirs ignore list as far as a few day ago , can see my posts ? wow ....
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Im sorry for my earlier post . I should have never said that. I know its not the canadian way. I t was second hand information i was repeating from a jet boat fisherman at a fraser boat launch who was irate when he came to shore and said dfo had spotted these bottom bouncers and decided to shut all salmon fishing down . Please except my apology it was inconsiderate
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Racist to the utmost. As far as most Canadians are concerned, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Malaysians, Singaporeans all look alike to them. So unless they hang a big sign on their chests or carry their national flags like they do in the Olympics, how do you know they are Chinese? Also, are their any Caucasians in there along a big bar? Why you say they are targeting and killing sockeyes? If they are targeting springs by BB and releasing c/r sockeye, that still doesn't justify calling them killing sockeyes unless you intend to create hate. DFO can deal with them if they don't like them doing it. If they are retaining sockeyes, that is a different story. If so, why didn't you report them to DFO and instead here pointing a racist finger to spread hate on a select group? Where is the proof? But your statement is going to be read all over the Internet regardless. That is an outrageously racist post, to make a blanket accusation on an ethnic group without any proof that they were killing sockeyes. A picture like the one with sockeye heads and guts all over the road will help your case. But even with that, you still need to identify them as ethnic Chinese to vindicate your post.
LOL I find the first part of your post racist to white people. :P
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Why , for some reason :o if you look at the 3 test sets per day for the Albion test . Sockeye netted . If you look at the last month there are 3 times or more fish caught every other day ? or every second day . Weird :o . Now there are none, more or less.
I do believe , or think it would be a good idea to stop these netting Sockeye and let as many go a possible of what's left . And the Springs . A complete shut down . What more sience do you need ? . We here this every day how bad it is so why keep scooping them up !!! .
Close the Albion , Wannock and alike , for now .
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if they are netting at specific times it may be a tidal effect.
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If I understand the test fisheries right, they fish at a certain point in the tide every time which is why some days have three if there are three high tides in the day.
It is likely a lot to do with how the river smells. The fish can smell how much fresh rain water is included and fresh rain water would equate to better chance of survival upstream. A number of days of rain will usually see a whole bunch of fish making a mad dash upstream. Days with little rain will see a lot of fish hanging out and waiting while smaller groups will go ahead and chance it.
A river the size of the Fraser, time of day likely doesn't have as much of an effect on when fish enter but it could affect whether they run where the net is or deeper or shallower.
I agree though that it seems counter productive to be removing fish from the system to test how many fish are coming in when there are so few fish. At the same time, it can be an indicator of other problems. If decent numbers are being caught in the test fisheries and then they disappear between there and the spawning grounds, then something is intercepting the fish on the way up. If the river is closed to fishing, maybe not everybody is following that rule. I would think a seine net would make more sense so the fish could be released.
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Quote from: Steelhawk on August 22, 2016, 02:09:00 PM
Racist to the utmost. As far as most Canadians are concerned, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Malaysians, Singaporeans all look alike to them. So unless they hang a big sign on their chests or carry their national flags like they do in the Olympics, how do you know they are Chinese? Also, are their any Caucasians in there along a big bar? Why you say they are targeting and killing sockeyes? If they are targeting springs by BB and releasing c/r sockeye, that still doesn't justify calling them killing sockeyes unless you intend to create hate. DFO can deal with them if they don't like them doing it. If they are retaining sockeyes, that is a different story. If so, why didn't you report them to DFO and instead here pointing a racist finger to spread hate on a select group? Where is the proof? But your statement is going to be read all over the Internet regardless. That is an outrageously racist post, to make a blanket accusation on an ethnic group without any proof that they were killing sockeyes. A picture like the one with sockeye heads and guts all over the road will help your case. But even with that, you still need to identify them as ethnic Chinese to vindicate your post.
LOL I find the first part of your post racist to white people. :P (quoted from Noahs Arc)
LOL. Nice try but read my post carefully. Don't be a racist to think that the word Canadians mean only the white people. I said MOST CANADIANS can't tell the difference, which include Canadians who are blacks, natives, East Indians, Latinos and probably most local born & raised Chinese Canadians who have never gone over the Orient. Most people, including immigrants from the countries I listed earlier, can't tell the ethnic origin of a person that look like themselves from just the outside, not to say from a distance. Even most Chinese can't tell if the other person who looks Chinese from a distance is an ethnic Chinese. If you take the prettiest actresses and the most handsome actors from those listed countries, they all look alike. Don't believe that? Try look up some of those international dating sites or search for movie or entertainment for people of those listed countries. They all look alike. The only time one can tell is from the accent of their English or if you can recognize their dialect spoken or when they dress up their ethnic clothing. That is just a stated fact. Nothing racist about this and there is no intend to 'criminalize' anyone who fails to do so. Even I myself can't tell the difference from a distance, not to say on a fishing bar. LOL.
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I again agree with SH . I remember meeting him up and going to Stave for s/h in winter , we used pins and like 1 foot leaders , bunch of white guy b/b , and when he crossed SH , and it was his fault , he cut his line . I was really sad to see that , but amount of those guys was more than we could handle . We moved to a different spot .
If problem is b/b , why dfo cant make simply leader length restriction ?! I was watching quite a few videos on youtube with legit b/b , and leader about 1-2 feet max ... it`s pretty cool to watch and see how fish takes it . But 10+ feet leaders is just retarded :)
Thanks Alex for mentioning that. It was one of those clearly ugly racist incident in my fishing life I don't want to brag about or remember it. Not too proud of it as a Canadian who lives here for 40+ years. You were standing quite far from me when that happened. They thought I was a loner fisherman of a minority origin so they bullied me. If you were standing by my side at that moment, they would see a big Caucasian with a bouncer size body, like my body guard and would reconsider if it was wise to cut my line or not. LOL. Darn, I lost over 10 ft of Seaguard Blue Label fluorocarbon main line and leader and one guy was trying to pocket my Drenan float until I approached them one against 6 and threatened if they wanted a fight. I said if they wanted to play rough, I would return with my special friends from China Town to greet them next time. And instantly the guy next to me who had verbally roughed me up earlier apologized. LOL.
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SH clean up your pms , or give me a call , we planning to fish for flatties on Saturday :) I changed phone , and lost your number :(
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Friday, August 26, 2016
The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 26 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser River sockeye.
There were no changes to the 2016 Fraser River sockeye return of 853,000 fish.
The Panel agreed to relinquish Regulatory Control of U.S. Panel Area Waters, Areas 6, 6A, 7 and 7A on September 3, 2016, one week earlier than scheduled. All other Panel Area Waters remain under Regulatory Control at this time.
All Panel Area Waters remain closed to Commercial salmon fisheries. This was the last scheduled in-season Panel meeting for 2016.
http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2016/Announcement14.pdf