Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Thug on July 20, 2004, 02:29:44 PM
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What are your preferred methods and set ups(don't need to know exact details) for catching this species in saltwater?
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Remember sockeyes don't bite ! Having said that use flasher with red hoochies= salt water flossing ! ;)
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FA, leader length from hotspot to hoochie?
Varies from day to day but generally 3'
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doc try try using small bubblegum pink hoochies
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The hoochies should be small 1.5-2", pink or red. Some fishermen even clip every second tentacle to make the hoochie appear smaller. Also you want as many flashers as possible to attract the sockeye to your boat. If possible attach an extra dummy flasher to the downrigger.
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Normfish, is it the same as pulling the wings off a fly ? ;D
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Are you serious about using spin n' glos for sockeyes in the salt chuck ?
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OK this is what I have done in the past before I got heavy into river fishing. We have fished many different patterns and although some may be better from day to day, this is our overall top all-around producing setup:
Hoochie: We have found that the smaller hot red glow head hoochies result in more hookups. Don't use large hoochies I even pull out a few of the tenticles to make the hoochie smaller. I like to use sharp gammies as these fish are easily lost at the boat when they go crazy just before netting. (sockeye tend to come in easy until they are disturbed at the boat...then the acrobatics start) Some experienced fishermen use snubbers (a stretchy section of tubing) between the flasher and the leader...this reduces some of the lost fish but I find it a hassle and tend not to use it much unless I am losing a lot of fish. When hoochies are not producing but there are fish present, it sometimes works to switch to a small pink apex...try it on slow days.
Leader: 24 inches 12 lbs
Flasher: Green or red Hot Spot flasher (we found the red more productive but some times the green seems to work when the red will not). If possible run as much flash as possible. I started getting more hookups when I started running dummy flashers on my down rigger line. I ran my terminal tackle about 12-15 pulls behind my ball. The more flash the better!
Troll pattern: We found that trolling slow worked best. I ran a sea anchor to slow the boat as my kicker was a bit dicey in rough seas. We also found that trolling in a straight line along the tide line best. Occasionally we would slow or speed up and entice a hookup. Run your down riggers between 40 and 100 feet down, I have rarely hooked sockeye below 100 feet, but I am sure that someone else out there will tell you differently....generally I think we tended to get best results from fishing shallow at first light, and progressively going deeper as the day progressed.
Good luck! Hope you get them, when you find a large school the action can be intense. I have had 3 rods pop off the down rigger at the same time!! When this happens all hell breaks loose...I have to coach my buddies to reel in the fish, steer the boat, bring up the balls, net the fish, etc...quite exciting! Hope this helps probably similar to what everyone else uses.
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can you cast a hoochie skirt with a lead jig head for weight from shore ????
thinking of using my saltwater spincasting reel/rod, with 20lb braid and a 1OZ jighead with a glowred hooochie skirt on it, cast out let fall, retriiev, let fal etc etc ...
thoughts???
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I have never seen or heard it done but you never know.
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thanks Normfish!!! just thought i'd ask...guess i gotta get a boat in the next year or so!!!! oh darn ;D
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No problem Otto, did I mention that some guys are lucky using a 25 m long pole to get their offering out to the salmon.
Seriously, keep your eyes open in the local papers and Buy and sell. A nice boat will come your way, unless Max gets to it first.
Good Luck. ;D
ooookkkkkaaaaayyyyy yea whatever...25 METER longpole NOrmFish?? i doubt it..maybe 25 feet 8)
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Anybody know when the sockeye will show up in the local (vancouver) saltwater? I remeber last year going out and there mustve been 40 boats out there all fishing socks but cant rememerb the time of year...
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If the sockeyes are showing in the Fraser, I would imagine that they will be off the mouth of the Fraser as well.
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As far as the more flash the better it's true.
I rigged up a half dozen CD's-probably AOL junk I found somewhere-on 80# mono and dragged them off the downrigger ball -just above them a green flasher with a glo squirt and it worked-this was 2 years ago.
All you need is some useless CD's some heavy mono and some crimps and you're in business!
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Would T10 be a good place to start? Last year there was tons of baots, when i was out on Monday wewere the only ones???
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The fish move around and you have to find the school. That being said, the Sandheads is always a good place to start. BTW take it easy in that area as the depth changes RAPIDLY due to some pretty big sand bars.
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I used to troll the sokeye a lot and I have commericial trolling experience too.
#1 is small
#2 color - pink, red or orange all produced well for us
#3 speed - slow, slow, slow.
I have hit fish for 50-180 feet and we spent most of our time at the QA marker.
On top of that, the dummy flasher is a great plan when down rigger fishing. Sockeye are a schooling fish, the will follow a pack of flashers so have as many in the water as possible and try to make sure you always have some down there so you dont loose the pack once you get a hook up.
GREAT TIP...if theres a commercial troll boat, they will have a ton of lures down there. we used to always cut behind them and nab some of the school trailing their gear!