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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fisherforever on April 12, 2016, 11:16:57 AM

Title: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: fisherforever on April 12, 2016, 11:16:57 AM
Went by this am and it was closed, sign in the window says the Chilliwack store is closing. Consolidating both stores so just the Abbotsford store will remain open.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: CohoMan on April 12, 2016, 11:40:27 AM
Retail business is tough!!! With Cabelas coming into Abbotsford, I hope he can stay afloat. There will be 3 outdoor stores in Abby- Fred, Hub Sports and Cabelas.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Howlongsyourleader on April 12, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
I find this hard to believe but I guess if it doesn't make dollars it doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Noahs Arc on April 12, 2016, 12:08:41 PM
That place always had people in it? You'd think he'd close the Abby store first the original one was prime location
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: joshhowat on April 12, 2016, 12:23:11 PM
Pretty sure they are building a new store near there old store.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: clarkii on April 12, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Freds Abby is in a better location for most of the area and has way better selection.  Only thing prime with the chilliwack location was proximity to the river, but getting there from the highway was a pain.

One thing I also noticed is they lost a lot of parking this year with the construction if whatever building just north.  It is possible their lease was up and the landowner had an idea for the spot so wanted them gone?
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Steelhawk on April 12, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
So no more steelhead derby weigh-ins and pictures ?
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: milo on April 12, 2016, 02:24:15 PM
So no more steelhead derby weigh-ins and pictures ?

And no more loaner rods to save the day when your stick explodes on an angry spring early in the morning.  :o
Fred sure save my day that day.  :)
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Dave on April 12, 2016, 03:56:39 PM
I met with Fred this morning and it’s true the main emphasis of his business is shifting to the Abby store, for now.  Basically, the store in Vedder Crossing is losing money because fishing on the C-V has pretty much stopped, while the Abby store is holding its own, even flourishing.   He hopes to reopen again this fall and winter, when angling is paramount so that means fish weigh ins and reports will most likely continue.
 
I have known Fred for over 40 years; his dedication to conservation efforts on the C-V and Fraser Rivers have been huge … no one has done more to promote angling in the Chilliwack area than Fred Helmer, and, always, always willing to donate a prize or a gift for worthy causes.   His financial support of the Wally Hall Jr. Memorial Derby has cost him thousands of dollars and I have no doubt this event will continue because he sincerely believes in it.
As Milo stated, customer support was very important to him.

I wish him all the best in these difficult economic times and hope people will understand the necessity of this (hopefully) temporary closure.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Robert_G on April 12, 2016, 05:08:40 PM
Interesting.....also Chilliwack Dart and Tackle is for sale....asking 750k for the business.
Not an industry I'd want to invest in right now. Opportunities for both hunting and fishing are evaporating yearly.
Its true I have saved and accumulated a lot of tackle by now, but I spend barely a fraction on gear compared to 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: typhoon on April 12, 2016, 07:42:59 PM
... is losing money because fishing on the C-V has pretty much stopped...

Say what now? I don't think I have seen more people fishing on the C-V than in the last year.
There was a whole series of posts blaming Fred's for the overcrowding.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: CohoJake on April 12, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
I've never been to the Abbotsford store, but inevitably ended up visiting the Chilliwack store at least twice every fall for reel parts or an emergency re-spooling of maxima.  Not to mention emergency float replenishing, etc.  And that time I had to replace my rod (bought a new one, not warranty).  And the early morning emergencies.  Man, I hate to think I'll have to start planning ahead for such things!
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Dave on April 12, 2016, 08:06:18 PM
Sorry typhoon, I meant fishing on the C-V has nearly stopped NOW, the end of steelhead fishing with not much happening until coho season.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: BCfisherman97 on April 12, 2016, 10:17:24 PM
Sorry typhoon, I meant fishing on the C-V has nearly stopped NOW, the end of steelhead fishing with not much happening until coho season.

That's a shame too. I remember when July on the Vedder was my favourite time of year. Now the red springs are getting thinner and thinner and runs are getting filled with more and more bouncers.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Burbot on April 12, 2016, 11:30:44 PM
The big box fishing stores will push all the small guys out...Maybe if people wanted small guys around they would shop at their business instead of Big Box yank stores and online...
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: typhoon on April 13, 2016, 07:10:34 AM
Sorry typhoon, I meant fishing on the C-V has nearly stopped NOW, the end of steelhead fishing with not much happening until coho season.
Ahhh, thanks for the clarification. Makes sense they would tie the store closing it to the end of steelhead season.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Flytech on April 15, 2016, 06:10:38 AM
I blame Starbucks.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on April 15, 2016, 04:56:08 PM
I blame Starbucks.
Why?
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Wiseguy on April 16, 2016, 04:34:13 PM
I blame Starbucks.
Lol! Ha ha ha, good one...
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: redtide on April 28, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
with cabelas arriving it may do even more damage to freds in abby. I will miss my morning visits during salmon season to grab a few items on the way to the river. The guys were great to talk to and share fishing stories. Hopefully it opens again this fall/winter. guess ill grab supplies from crappy tire or walmart for now.  :-\.............or maybe rodney can open up a location this year!!
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Every Day on April 28, 2016, 10:23:44 PM
guess ill grab supplies from crappy tire or walmart for now.  :-\.............or maybe rodney can open up a location this year!!

Or you could go to Chilliwack Dart and Tackle?  ???
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Gone_Fishin_ on April 29, 2016, 07:28:58 AM
Seen Gary's ad on Craigslist last week. Chwk Dart & Tackle

Looks like he's trying to sell it right now... hopefully someone picks it up and they don't close too.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: dennyman on May 21, 2016, 09:58:43 PM
Wow sad to hear about the closure of Fred's store in Chilliwack. If Chilliwack Dart and Tackle cannot find a buyer that would be pretty disappointing for the fishing and hunting enthusiasts for that area. If Canadian Tire becomes your only alternative in Chilliwack/Sardis you have my sympathy. Shows you how tight margins are for the fishing/hunting retail market in Canada is. And the weak Canadian dollar also adds to the problem.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: silver ghost on May 21, 2016, 10:50:20 PM
I met with Fred this morning and it’s true the main emphasis of his business is shifting to the Abby store, for now.  Basically, the store in Vedder Crossing is losing money because fishing on the C-V has pretty much stopped, while the Abby store is holding its own, even flourishing.   He hopes to reopen again this fall and winter, when angling is paramount so that means fish weigh ins and reports will most likely continue.
 
I have known Fred for over 40 years; his dedication to conservation efforts on the C-V and Fraser Rivers have been huge … no one has done more to promote angling in the Chilliwack area than Fred Helmer, and, always, always willing to donate a prize or a gift for worthy causes.   His financial support of the Wally Hall Jr. Memorial Derby has cost him thousands of dollars and I have no doubt this event will continue because he sincerely believes in it.
As Milo stated, customer support was very important to him.

I wish him all the best in these difficult economic times and hope people will understand the necessity of this (hopefully) temporary closure.

But fishing basically stops on the C/V every year this time until the small red spring opportunities, and then fall salmon season, I wonder what's different... He must see the writing on the wall with cabela's coming to the valley in a few weeks. Or maybe the land owner wants more condos in the area....
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Robert_G on May 22, 2016, 08:49:36 AM
Shows you how tight margins are for the fishing/hunting retail market in Canada is. And the weak Canadian dollar also adds to the problem.

The real problem is that our fishing/hunting opportunities are evaporating like snow in July. Less openings, less access, shorter seasons, fewer fish, and fewer gamer animals causing what's left to become more overcrowded and less enjoyable. At the end of the day that's where its at.

If I had the means, yes...I'd love to be fishing places that give the great secluded experiences like Flora Lake and other places that require hours of hiking in, but most of us simply can't do that every time we want to fish or hunt....it's not realistic, so we are left fishing overcrowded places that are becoming even fewer and far between each year.

Opening or buying a hunting/fishing shop right now would be financial suicide for most of us.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Noahs Arc on May 22, 2016, 10:45:22 AM
But fishing basically stops on the C/V every year this time until the small red spring opportunities, and then fall salmon season, I wonder what's different... He must see the writing on the wall with cabela's coming to the valley in a few weeks. Or maybe the land owner wants more condos in the area....

Surprises me Fred would pull the pin on the Chilliwack store instead of the Abby store of this was the case. After all he's only a short drive from the new Cabelas. I doubt he got pushed out of the Chilliwack store due to development issues, looks like that small strip mall is there to stay now that it's anchored with a Starbucks. I haven't been to the new Abby store since they moved, but I'll be shopping there for my fishing supplies now that the other store is closed.
I urge all of you to continue to buy your fishing supplies at local stores. The Big box stores get enough of our business with other purchases.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: Flytech on May 24, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Surprises me Fred would pull the pin on the Chilliwack store instead of the Abby store of this was the case. After all he's only a short drive from the new Cabelas. I doubt he got pushed out of the Chilliwack store due to development issues, looks like that small strip mall is there to stay now that it's anchored with a Starbucks. I haven't been to the new Abby store since they moved, but I'll be shopping there for my fishing supplies now that the other store is closed.
I urge all of you to continue to buy your fishing supplies at local stores. The Big box stores get enough of our business with other purchases.


Large newly signed lease in Abby, Starbucks taking up all the parking, expiring lease in Chilliwack, Fred getting older and getting ready for retirement, these are all ideas that I have may be the cause.


Regardless, life becomes a little less convenient for the river fishermen. We will survive, I just hope Freds Tackle does too.
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: penn on May 26, 2016, 04:28:29 PM
 I would think there is no way the landowner would be able to build condos on that land due to zoning . I don't know the details specific to Fred's store , but land is zoned for different things like agriculture , commercial , industrial or residential . Seeing how it is being used as commercial land now, I would assume it is zoned commercial,so  that would rule out residential usage . You can't just build what ever you feel like on a given piece of land , it has to stay with in the zoning , and getting it out of that requires applications to the city council . And those usually get shot down just like when people want land out of the ALR . If this wasn't so there would be houses and condos all over the Sumas Prairie as well as industrial areas .
Title: Re: Freds Chilliwack Closing
Post by: penn on May 26, 2016, 04:33:16 PM
Why?
Because people spent their money on coffee and can't afford fishing gear .