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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chehalis_Steel on February 05, 2016, 05:54:48 PM
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Ok I know this doesn't have that much to do with fishing, at least not directly. But what happened to me today does show the attitude problem that some people have, including those on the water. These individuals respond to the smallest thing you do that they think inconveniences them or shows disrespect towards them with hostility or a complete lack of respect towards you. In their world, people need to be respectful towards each other, but only when it is towards them, not the other way. This is the kind of attitude that starts fights on crowded rivers like the Vedder or on the Fraser Bars.
So anyway, I was in the parking lot at a grocery store in South Surrey sitting in the car reading my e-mails on my phone before going in. I had to park pretty close to the guy beside me because the other guy next to me had gone into my space a bit. This was the only available spot.
The next thing I know this enraged guy (a bit overweight and probably about 58-60) starts yelling and swearing at me for no apparent reason. He then starts to to try break into my car. Luckily I had the doors locked, thanks to the reputation the area has for car theft and assault. So I'm sitting there and I have no idea why the guy is doing this and I politely asked him what's up. He kept yelling and swearing, dropping f-bombs left and right without ever really trying to tell me why he's so mad. Besides the swearing, all I could make out was "get lost you maniac." Right...I'm the maniac here.
I finally figured out that he couldn't get the door of his truck open. I tried to politely apologize and explain to him that that I had to park so close to him because the guy next to me had parked too close to me. I also suggested that he could just climb in on the other side of his truck. He didn't even listen to me and had instead walked over to his truck and had started banging his door against the side of my car...which was doing more damage to his door than anything else because he was hitting the hard plastic edge on the fender of my car. Maybe he thought because I have an accent I couldn't understand English and that I could only understand a physical message.
I finally decided that this guy wasn't going to listen to my side of the story or get in on the other side of his truck; he just could not be reasoned with. So I backed out of the parking spot to give him room and he finally got into his truck and left. Why exactly he couldn't have just asked me politely to move or said nothing and inconvenienced himself slightly by climbing in on the other side of his truck and just shifting to the driver side (easy to do) I still can't tell. Two words would have been enough.
I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he was having a bad day. I have plenty of those myself because of my health. I can forgive him for what he did but still, it was borderline assault and pretty over the top for the small mistake I made (arguably not even a mistake since there was nowhere else to park). I really think the guy would have attacked me if my doors had not been locked.
What do you guys think? Why didn't the guy at least listen to my side of the story or first just ask me to move if it really was impossible for him to walk to the other side of his truck and get in there? Does the small mistake I made give him the right to immediately start verbally abusing me and trying to start a fight and/or attack me?
Sorry for the long post but I just wanted to get some kind of idea if this kind of thing is common in Canada. I thought that Canada was all about preserving a just society. Maybe this is just a story :-\
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Society has all kinds and Canada is no different. The guy may be upset with you (if the other car was double parked in "your" space you should not have pulled in), but that does not in any way excuse his behaviour. It was way over the top and criminal (vandalized your car), whereas your choice to park too close was just impolite.
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Parking wars and road rage is alive and well in BC.
Obviously the guy is in the wrong for becoming physical, but.
I would never squeeze into a spot like you did because when the other car that encroached on your spot left, YOU would look like the a hole. I don't believe you it was the only spot available.
The guy in the pickup shouldn't be parking as close to the building as possible and expect all the room in the world. Owning a full size truck comes with parking in the back 40 or expect to park in tight spots.
You make yourself sound very innocent here. I hope you took his plate down at least and called him in.
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Sorry but that's a dick move to park on a guys drivers side door. The guy could have had an injury or condition that prevented him from crawling thru the passenger side. Could have had a sore back or buggered knee or hip.
If you seen that you blocked the guy out of his vehicle, why didn't you proactively move your vehicle so he could get in before this escalated to where it did. Obviously you knew you were in the wrong. Obviously you remained in the vehicle and yes you did eventually move your vehicle but only when you felt convenient to do so.
The problem as I see it is you for trying to force someone to do something they didn't want to only because you caused a problem and you chose to try make someone do someonthing they should not have to do.
You're freakin' lucky the guy didn't smash your window out. You're even more lucky the guy didn't drag you out of your window and then proceed to hang a beating on you. Or even administer a 9mm sleeping pill behind your left ear.
Why pull that crap of blocking someones door? And then you wonder why a guy would be pissed at you when you block him out and then sit on your my friend not wanting to back out until things started to get ugly. You're lucky man. I could see how that could have ended poorly for you.
Here's a thought, what if the guy was in a hurry due to a family emergency? What if you stessed the guy out so much that he ends up with a heart attack because of your belief that your email is more important than someones access to their own vehicle. Why piss people off just because you feel like it.
Not cool dude.
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Sorry but that's a dick move to park on a guys drivers side door.
You can't read or are you just trolling again? The guy was already enraged before Chehalis_Steel noticed him.
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I'll bet the guy was pissed as he sees the car parked on his door. I'm not trolling - this doesn't impact me so I don't really care other than I recently had some ding dong park way to close to me recently and fortunately he had folding mirrors which I conveniently was able fold forward for him so I could open my door enough to squeeze in. Those that personally know me know that I need at least a half open door to get in. ::)
Anyways, if you needed to squeeze in, you should have started backing out for the guy when you seen him approaching so he could have gotten into his vehicle. But whatever - do what you want - I have no reason to care what you do.
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It takes 2. A polite tap on the window asking for a little space would have been the human thing to do.
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It takes 2. A polite tap on the window asking for a little space would have been the human thing to do.
You are 100% correct.
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South Surrey
The only 2 words I needed to hear to understand the situation ::)
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Two wrongs doesn't make it right. Like other posters I would have avoided parking in that space.
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If you were between the lines of your spot than what is the problem? Ideally, a person parks in the middle of his or her spot but if they are between the lines then so what. He should of simply asked you to move. To me you did nothing wrong.
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I hate it when i get stuck and i cant open my door grrrr. Only asking for a big my friend dent in the door. I park as far away as i can. Walk a little not so bad. Wife went to doctors with our new born. Came back to a baseball dent in new car door. Claim deductable. No note left. Real nice. There are just as many % #@$! A*€£$#;&$÷ as there are genuine people. Makes you wonder.
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Far too many people on SSRI's. They are making people crazier over the last twenty years.
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I love all you guys giving him a hard time for being too close. I know for a fact all of you have done the exact same thing from time to time. The level of self ritiousness is unreal around here. The enraged guy is 100% in the wrong here, all it would take is a polite tap on the window and ask the guy for room. If you gave attitude after the polite tap, then he has every right to get angry.
I've been on both sides of this story, and I've made these same mistakes. Sorry it had to turn out so nasty Chehalis Steel.
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Well Chehalis_Steel it sounds like you reacted fairly well in a difficult situation. Thanks for being candid.
I thought the major point was yeah maybe C_S shouldn't have parked there - and I do not and will not park that way - but why did the other guy have to go Ape S___ over nothing much? No one seems to have thought about the other jerk who parked their vehicle over the line in the first place.
It's also very easy to sit relatively safe in your car in such a situation and 'observe'. Many professional observers (ie cops and psychologists) have remarked how both the apparent safety of the car interior and the car as an extension of 'home and castle' contribute to incidents of road rage where as face to face people would be less inclined to over react and more inclined to de-escalate potentially violent confrontations. I kind of noted how you didn't react until he extended his behaviour to your vehicle.
My final conclusion: no one - and there were 3 people involved, acted particularly well. Situations like this happen everyday -what can we do to avoid them and minimize the outcomes when they do?
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Ya, I think some words or proper explanation is missing from the OP's post where some feel the OP was wrong.
In an ATTENDED vehicle: parking close shouldn't really be an issue if one is paying attention.
Unattended = different story.
There are 3 sides to any story:
Yours
Theirs
and the Truth.
http://lifehacker.com/5883760/how-to-deal-with-an-funny dude-parker (http://lifehacker.com/5883760/how-to-deal-with-an-funny dude-parker)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288497/And-thought-bad-parking-Hilarious-pictures-worlds-worst-drivers-leave-cars.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288497/And-thought-bad-parking-Hilarious-pictures-worlds-worst-drivers-leave-cars.html)
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/park-ahole-website-watching/story?id=12122207 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/park-ahole-website-watching/story?id=12122207)
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I love all you guys giving him a hard time for being too close. I know for a fact all of you have done the exact same thing from time to time. The level of self ritiousness is unreal around here. The enraged guy is 100% in the wrong here, all it would take is a polite tap on the window and ask the guy for room. If you gave attitude after the polite tap, then he has every right to get angry.
"Hello kettle, you are looking a little black."
Fly tech,
Everyone has agreed that the guy acted inappropriately (even criminally). All we said is that parking there, too close to the guy's door and expecting him to climb in through his passenger door, was impolite of CS. For that, you have labelled us all "self-righteous dochebag trolls." Please do not try to justify your own impolite behaviour by insisting everyone does it too, this is precisely what is wrong in the world today and the point I made on the River Ettiquette thread. It's like claiming that it is okay that you speed because everyone else does, while at the same time you honk and swear as you pass those that are driving the speed limit. Polite society can only exist if we all agree to be polite, even when it is inconvenient to do so. At my own local outdoors store (one with frustratingly small spaces given most patrons drive pickups), I pulled in next to a pickup that was double parked. I pulled into the one and a half spaces but then pulled out, straighten out, and pulled into the full space. The guy getting out of the double parked vehicle commented that he had thought I was going to join him in sharing the extra wide space. I just smiled and commented at how inconvenient the smaller spaces were for our large trucks. Yes, I could have double parked, and it would have been acceptable to that other driver as it would have justified his own double parking. But I chose not to, even though I may be inconvenienced by someone parking too close to me, because it was the polite thing to do for the rest of the parking public. CS's impolite behaviour in no way justified the guy's abusive and criminal behaviour, however, it was undoubtedly an agrevating factor. The polite thing for him to do would have been to knock on the window and ask the driver to pull out. He obviously was not interested in being polite to the the guy who impolitely parked next to him, and he went with the "everyone else is impolite so why should I be?" approach, and then he proceeded to take it to "crazy" instead. Bottom line is that it all could have been avoided if everyone involved had acted politely, and as Ralph pointed out, no one acted politely in that situation.
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*shakes head*
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I think you guys should go fishing more... ;D
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I think society has become so immersed in this "ME ME ME" attitude that they don't care anymore. If only people can just take a moment and be kind to each other, the world will be a better place.
For example, my wife works in a pharmacy and signs are everywhere- "SCENT FREE ENVIRONMENT".
Guess what? Some staff members just doesn't care.
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Two issues- South Surrey and boxing the guy in. If my truck don't fit in the parking spot, I don't park there. Buddy's reaction mind u was over the top. in this day and age,common courtesy is gone.
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'' just can't get any respect.'' or ''I get no respect.'' Rodney Dangerfield. '' Lets go fishing'' The ardent angler. Put away your crying towels you are making the river get dirty.
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Notice how they make parking spots allot smaller these days? Just to make more spots. They should increase the size of parking spots. If you cant park in a spot without parking ON the line than dont park there. I park in the back of parking lots, the walk wont kill you.
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That reminded me my parking problem situation :)
I live in Richmond and I had long box truck , our parking is single lane in a middle - left parking spots - right side walk and lawn .
Both of the guys on each side of me parked almost on a line torwards me (1 closer left , 1 closer right) and that game 0 chances to park between them without driving over a lawn . Manager saw me do that few times a tried to give me "cupcakes" , but I throw him my key and asked him to park better :) he looked on a tiny spot where I had to park , shook his head and said - I saw nothing . Good thing for me was the guy on a left always had a passenger , and a guy on the right was buy him self ... So few times , I bent my mirrow on each side of my truck and park millimeters away :) it was a winning feeling watching the guy climbing from passenger door :) also a winning situation under rain a guy had to back up a few times and finally pick up his passenger from another side of me :) guess what , after that , they both park away from lines close to me :)
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I think you guys should go fishing more... ;D
Exactly what I was thinking...Or fishing must be slow.
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Notice how they make parking spots allot smaller these days? Just to make more spots.
while true - cars are generally smaller but pickups etc have gotten larger - much larger. Ever think of the expense and waste using up land to park cars? Business makes no money from free parking. Where I live the land to park 20 vehicles is worth about $800k. Paved lots absolutely stink in the environmental sense. It's worse for fish (toxic run off among other problems) than anything else. I like your solution but it's better to take transit or walk if it's practicable.
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while true - cars are generally smaller but pickups etc have gotten larger - much larger. Ever think of the expense and waste using up land to park cars? Business makes no money from free parking. Where I live the land to park 20 vehicles is worth about $800k. Paved lots absolutely stink in the environmental sense. It's worse for fish (toxic run off among other problems) than anything else. I like your solution but it's better to take transit or walk if it's practicable.
How about the all the wasted land used on roadways? ::)
I doubt there's many business owners that hate having their parking lot in front of the store. At least out here in the valley. You sure wouldn't get much business out my way if you had no parking lot as transit is a joke. Maybe where you live it's a different story. If you're in the city then there's probably lots of under grounds in which case they have used the land wisely.
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perhaps business owners don't mind it but I'd bet developers and local governments would prefer other business or residences to flat pavement. You of course didin't address the known and well documented environmental issues. An yes there is too land wasted on roadways and highways - society and technology is moving away from it in 50+ years our landscape may look radically different. People may travel differently as well.
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Hold on here.
There are so many incongruities in your story that I do tend to believe that you were the offender and not the other guy. Sure, he could have kept his reaction in check, but you were the one who provoked the conflict.
You say in your opening "So anyway, I was in the parking lot at a grocery store in South Surrey sitting in the car reading my e-mails on my phone before going in. I had to park pretty close to the guy beside me because the other guy next to me had gone into my space a bit.
The next thing I know this enraged guy (a bit overweight and probably about 58-60) starts yelling and swearing at me for no apparent reason."
No apparent reason? You just stated that you were aware you had parked too close to his truck preventing him from entering on the driver's side.
Then you say: "Luckily I had the doors locked, thanks to the reputation the area has for car theft and assault.
And then you repeat: "So I'm sitting there and I have no idea why the guy is doing this and I politely asked him what's up. He kept yelling and swearing, dropping f-bombs left and right without ever really trying to tell me why he's so mad. Besides the swearing, all I could make out was "get lost you maniac."
Then you state: "I finally figured out that he couldn't get the door of his truck open."
Not true, mister. You KNEW you were parked too close for him to open his door. Don't underestimate our intelligence, please.
Then you continue: "I tried to politely apologize and explain to him that that I had to park so close to him because the guy next to me had parked too close to me."
What makes you believe that he could hear your polite apology through a closed car door when you said earlier that with the doors closed you couldn't make out what he was yelling to you?
And then comes the bomb: "I also suggested that he could just climb in on the other side of his truck."
Let me get this straight: YOU asked someone to enter their car on the passenger side when YOU were encroaching their parking space and preventing them from opening their driver's door?
Seriously? What planet are you from, man?
Then you go on to whine that "he didn't even listen to me and had instead walked over to his truck and had started banging his door against the side of my car".
Trust me, you are lucky that's all he did considering your appalling rudeness towards him.
You think that it is easy for a 60-year-old overweight person to climb on the other side of his truck and just shift to the driver side, huh? Well, I have news for you. For many people it is not!
Put yourself in the other person's shoes before you draw any conclusions.
Even if the person is fit and all, what if the space on the other side is narrow, too? Did you even bother to check?
If it had been me, I know that I would have been awfully frustrated to see entry to my car blocked by an inconsiderate punk browsing his cellphone when he clearly knows he is too close to my car. I would have hoped to hear your engine being started and see your car moving out of there even before I got to the side of my car.
Your final thought: I thought that Canada was all about preserving a just society.
It is, indeed. But a just society is one in which your rights stop where another person's rights begin .
What part of it you don't understand?
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Both offenders should lose their license. Bad behaviour all around.
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And Milo goes "BAM" ;D
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I wouldn't want to anywhere near close to Milo if he went "BAM" ;)
And I agree with him, the OP brought this on.
Also agree, fishing is slow, but this is a fun read ;D
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Man...that's one long lecture there ;D
Seems like this discussion will be a replay of the earlier fishing etiquette thread.
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Hold on here.
There are so many incongruities in your story that I do tend to believe that you were the offender and not the other guy. Sure, he could have kept his reaction in check, but you were the one who provoked the conflict.
You say in your opening "So anyway, I was in the parking lot at a grocery store in South Surrey sitting in the car reading my e-mails on my phone before going in. I had to park pretty close to the guy beside me because the other guy next to me had gone into my space a bit.
The next thing I know this enraged guy (a bit overweight and probably about 58-60) starts yelling and swearing at me for no apparent reason."
No apparent reason? You just stated that you were aware you had parked too close to his truck preventing him from entering on the driver's side.
Then you say: "Luckily I had the doors locked, thanks to the reputation the area has for car theft and assault.
And then you repeat: "So I'm sitting there and I have no idea why the guy is doing this and I politely asked him what's up. He kept yelling and swearing, dropping f-bombs left and right without ever really trying to tell me why he's so mad. Besides the swearing, all I could make out was "get lost you maniac."
Then you state: "I finally figured out that he couldn't get the door of his truck open."
Not true, mister. You KNEW you were parked too close for him to open his door. Don't underestimate our intelligence, please.
Then you continue: "I tried to politely apologize and explain to him that that I had to park so close to him because the guy next to me had parked too close to me."
What makes you believe that he could hear your polite apology through a closed car door when you said earlier that with the doors closed you couldn't make out what he was yelling to you?
And then comes the bomb: "I also suggested that he could just climb in on the other side of his truck."
Let me get this straight: YOU asked someone to enter their car on the passenger side when YOU were encroaching their parking space and preventing them from opening their driver's door?
Seriously? What planet are you from, man?
Then you go on to whine that "he didn't even listen to me and had instead walked over to his truck and had started banging his door against the side of my car".
Trust me, you are lucky that's all he did considering your appalling rudeness towards him.
You think that it is easy for a 60-year-old overweight person to climb on the other side of his truck and just shift to the driver side, huh? Well, I have news for you. For many people it is not!
Put yourself in the other person's shoes before you draw any conclusions.
Even if the person is fit and all, what if the space on the other side is narrow, too? Did you even bother to check?
If it had been me, I know that I would have been awfully frustrated to see entry to my car blocked by an inconsiderate punk browsing his cellphone when he clearly knows he is too close to my car. I would have hoped to hear your engine being started and see your car moving out of there even before I got to the side of my car.
Your final thought: I thought that Canada was all about preserving a just society.
It is, indeed. But a just society is one in which your rights stop where another person's rights begin .
What part of it you don't understand?
The prosecution rests your Honour.
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I am in a fun mood so I will play.
Hold on here.
There are so many incongruities in your story that I do tend to believe that you were the offender and not the other guy. Sure, he could have kept his reaction in check, but you were the one who provoked the conflict.
You say in your opening "So anyway, I was in the parking lot at a grocery store in South Surrey sitting in the car reading my e-mails on my phone before going in. I had to park pretty close to the guy beside me because the other guy next to me had gone into my space a bit.
The next thing I know this enraged guy (a bit overweight and probably about 58-60) starts yelling and swearing at me for no apparent reason."
No apparent reason? You just stated that you were aware you had parked too close to his truck preventing him from entering on the driver's side.
Then you say: "Luckily I had the doors locked, thanks to the reputation the area has for car theft and assault.
And then you repeat: "So I'm sitting there and I have no idea why the guy is doing this and I politely asked him what's up. He kept yelling and swearing, dropping f-bombs left and right without ever really trying to tell me why he's so mad. Besides the swearing, all I could make out was "get lost you maniac."
Then you state: "I finally figured out that he couldn't get the door of his truck open."
Not true, mister. You KNEW you were parked too close for him to open his door. Don't underestimate our intelligence, please.
The OP typed something while they were in an upset state. The minor incongruity is as to whether they fully understand before or after a the person was threatening them and physically damaging their car is understandable. Second, no one can state why another person does anything so the point is mute.
Further, I fail to see where, as you assert later that the OP was encroaching in the offenders space. If the OP parked between the lines he was well within his own space. There is no debate there. If a person is between the lines they are legally parked.
Then you continue: "I tried to politely apologize and explain to him that that I had to park so close to him because the guy next to me had parked too close to me."
What makes you believe that he could hear your polite apology through a closed car door when you said earlier that with the doors closed you couldn't make out what he was yelling to you?
When I read the story I just thought he lowered the window.
And then comes the bomb: "I also suggested that he could just climb in on the other side of his truck."
Let me get this straight: YOU asked someone to enter their car on the passenger side when YOU were encroaching their parking space and preventing them from opening their driver's door?
Seriously? What planet are you from, man?
Then you go on to whine that "he didn't even listen to me and had instead walked over to his truck and had started banging his door against the side of my car".
Trust me, you are lucky that's all he did considering your appalling rudeness towards him.
You think that it is easy for a 60-year-old overweight person to climb on the other side of his truck and just shift to the driver side, huh? Well, I have news for you. For many people it is not!
Fair point, it is not easy for many people to enter their vehicle from the passenger side. But you know what is even easier than yelling, threatening and repeatedly aggressively damaging another person's property? Asking the person to move!!!
Put yourself in the other person's shoes before you draw any conclusions.
Even if the person is fit and all, what if the space on the other side is narrow, too? Did you even bother to check?
According to this statement anyone who parks in a spot is not only responsible for their own parking, but also the person who is/may park beside them, and all the cars in the general vicinity? Hmmm, I must have missed in all the driving courses I have taken for work. I will be sure to notify my OHSA supervisor.
If it had been me, I know that I would have been awfully frustrated to see entry to my car blocked by an inconsiderate punk browsing his cellphone when he clearly knows he is too close to my car. I would have hoped to hear your engine being started and see your car moving out of there even before I got to the side of my car.
Your final thought: I thought that Canada was all about preserving a just society.
It is, indeed. But a just society is one in which your rights stop where another person's rights begin .
You are absolutely correct. A person in Canada has the right to feel safe, not be threatened, have their property damaged, and more for doing nothing more than following the law that one cannot operate a vehicle while using a handheld device. I am unfamiliar where in the charter it grants older, obese men to assault people. Please show me. I already have to obese part covered, and the older part is coming all to fast. It could really come in handy
What part of it you don't understand?
I hope this is taken in jest as intended. But in all reality, I don't see what the issue was. A person parks to close to you, but remains with the car. You ask them to move so you can get in, you thank them and drive away. Everyone's day is much better off.
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Further, I fail to see where, as you assert later that the OP was encroaching in the offenders space. If the OP parked between the lines he was well within his own space. There is no debate there. If a person is between the lines they are legally parked.
The OP posted that he had parked "pretty close" to the guy's car because another car had "gone into [his own] space a bit." I don't see any way the OP could have parked "between the lines" if there was already another car parked into his space even a little bit or else the OP would not have been able to get out of his own car, even if he drove a smart car or firefly.
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If you cant park in a spot without parking ON the line than dont park there. I park in the back of parking lots, the walk wont kill you.
X2
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If I came out of a store & saw a car parked too close thus prevented me to get in my car my reaction would of been.
WTH
Ok there's a guy in the parked car.
I'd simply tap on his side window & say" would you kindly back your car so I can open my door & get into my vehicle.
Guy backs up; I get in & simply drive away.
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If I came out of a store & saw a car parked too close thus prevented me to get in my car my reaction would of been.
WTH
Ok there's a guy in the parked car.
I'd simply tap on his side window & say" would you kindly back your car so I can open my door & get into my vehicle.
Guy backs up; I get in & simply drive away.
But in this case the OP told the guy to climb through his passenger door.
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it would make for some pretty good posts if chehalis_steel started driving hrenya to the river.
"ok guy's, have we got a story for you..........." ;D
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But in this case the OP told the guy to climb through his passenger door.
Only after the guy lost his temper, started yelling, cursing and trying to force his way in Chehalis_steel's car. At that point C_S has pretty much carte blanche to tell the guy where to go; asking him to try the passenger side is pretty decent and far nicer than I would of been.
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At that point C_S has pretty much carte blanche to tell the guy where to go; asking him to try the passenger side is pretty decent and far nicer than I would of been.
No he doesn't. The only carte blanche he has is to move his car and enable the guy to enter his vehicle on the driver's side.
Tylsie, I don't know you from a fly on the wall, but I would love to be the guy you ask to try the passenger side when your car (with you inside) is blocking my driver's door. You'd be in for an unpleasant surprise. Especially if I forgot to take my meds that day.
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No he doesn't. The only carte blanche he has is to move his car and enable the guy to enter his vehicle on the driver's side.
Tylsie, I don't know you from a fly on the wall, but I would love to be the guy you ask to try the passenger side when your car (with you inside) is blocking my driver's door. You'd be in for an unpleasant surprise. Especially if I forgot to take my meds that day.
I am getting to like this guy. Old school.
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No he doesn't. The only carte blanche he has is to move his car and enable the guy to enter his vehicle on the driver's side.
Tylsie, I don't know you from a fly on the wall, but I would love to be the guy you ask to try the passenger side when your car (with you inside) is blocking my driver's door. You'd be in for an unpleasant surprise. Especially if I forgot to take my meds that day.
After this I am done posting in this thread, I have made my opinion clear. However, I do want to know. Milo, do you truly believe that when a person parks close to your vehicle that gives you permission to threaten them, try to force your your way into their vehicle and damage their property or is it just internet bluster? I honestly can't tell.
I have never been accused of being level headed, and have the scars to prove it. Yet even when I have been in a similar situation the thoughts of assault, break and enter and vandalism have never occurred to me That being said, I am unsure how I would react if a person threatened me, attempted to break into my vehicle and upon failing that began to damage it while I was sitting in it; especially since I NEVER take my meds...
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Good for you, Tylsie.
Meds are a b*tch.
Just don't do stupid things like the OP poster said he did, and you will be fine. Very few people (as volatile as they may be) get off without you giving them a reason.
Tight lines.
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This is truly the stupidest thread ever. Can we move it to the flyfishing forum? ;D