Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on February 05, 2016, 08:26:50 AM
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Here is the long awaited news clip I filmed for Global TV a few years ago on the Harrison River from the 1990's with Dave as he looked for the reason sockeye salmon were dying. Not sure what the results were of the testing. :P
I laughed when I found this clip in my old VHS archives when, at the end of the story they talked about a large escape of Atlantic Salmon from their pens. :o
Oh Dave, you look a bit younger here too. ;D ;D The clip is here. https://youtu.be/K8ofXesgYDA
Thanks Dave for letting me cover the story that day, may put up the raw tape one day too.
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That brings back memories :D I hope you post the longer version as I think it would interest many readers.
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That brings back memories :D I hope you post the longer version as I think it would interest many readers.
I hope I have it as I would have sent the original to Global and sometimes they did not send the tapes back but I think I made a copy first as I believe I gave you a copy too.
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That was quite the mane Dave. Although the way you're running your thumb up and down that knife handle makes me nervous...... ;)
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Was definitely a bad hair day ;D
The knife was for cutting the head to remove otoliths; it was scalpels that made me bleed many times ..
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But Harrison River Sockeye don't experience prespawn mortality, Dave. Alex won't be happy with this.
When and whereabouts on the Harrison were you capturing these Sockeye, Dave? If it was first week of October they probably were mostly Weaver.
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Honestly don't remember the date Steve but was more late August- early September I think. Perhaps Chris remembers? We were seining downstream of Weaver Creek, in the spot still used by the Chehalis band for it's sampling programs. If I recall the concern was we didn't know what stock this was that was dying; earlier I had been collecting scale samples from sport caught fish but the sample number was too small so the Chehalis band readily agreed to assist us in a proper sampling program.
It was determined the fish died from Parvicapsula minibicornis, the same parasite that killed hundreds of thousand of sockeye back in the 90's when for whatever reason late run sockeye entered the Fraser River weeks or even months earlier than normal.
Interestingly, the research on this parasite, especially where the fish became infected, led by Dr. Simon Jones from PBS, was halted when a certain grey haired activist forced DFO to switch focus and spend its time, money, and scientific expertise on a supposed sea lice problem near her home.
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7 seconds in it says March 99, so I'm betting 98.So Steve - you wanna go for lunch sometime? ;D ;D ;)
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Fraser Sockeye are not spawning in March. Nice weather for March also.
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7 seconds in it says March 99, so I'm betting 98.[/b]So Steve - you wanna go for lunch sometime? ;D ;D ;)
Get up to speed Steve :o ::) ;D
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Oh..so you thought it was March 1998? That's hilarious. ??? :o ::)
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Anyway, back at the farm, I supposed those could have been Harrison arrivals also as they can start showing up in July, Dave. Looks like the Chinook tagsite at the parking lot.
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Anyway, back at the farm, I supposed those could have been Harrison arrivals also as they can start showing up in July, Dave. Looks like the Chinook tagsite at the parking lot.
You nailed the site; too bad my memory has failed me a bit as to the date but as you know I was pretty busy back then ;) Fish were dying throughout the watershed and I was tasked with obtaining samples of them. We often dump on FN for their fishing practices (me included) but I have to say they were instrumental, and a tremendous help to the sampling programs I was involved with during those years of high pre spawning mortalities.
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Oh..so you thought it was March 1998? That's hilarious. ??? :o ::)
Richard D. Cranium Comprehension post of the year award! Try stopping at 7 seconds in.....and check the date displayed on the screen. ::) Since even a simpleton like myself knows the sockeye run in the summer, my superior comprehension skills suggest summer/fall 98. I typed this really slow so you can catch on! ;D
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The short clip of the floating sockeye was Global's file tape, not part of the video I filmed. I will try to find the exact date of when I shot the story.
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Richard D. Cranium Comprehension post of the year award! Try stopping at 7 seconds in.....and check the date displayed on the screen. ::) Since even a simpleton like myself knows the sockeye run in the summer, my superior comprehension skills suggest summer/fall 98. I typed this really slow so you can catch on! ;D
Yeah rriiiight, that's what you meant...lol. Your superior comprehension skills? What about your superior communications skills...lol? What happened to those skills? Why didn't you just say Fall of 1998? Maybe when you typed so slow you were thinking about Super Bowl commercials and not about how ambiguous your response was. I knew the date was wrong already (the media does make errors) because I have actually been there when those Sockeye migrate in, spawn and die. I actually watched these carcasses floating downstream from Harrison Lake in the October. Better luck next time. ;D
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The short clip of the floating sockeye was Global's file tape, not part of the video I filmed. I will try to find the exact date of when I shot the story.
I know. I didn't really pay much attention to it because I already knew it was the wrong month.
Harrison Sockeye start entering the Fraser in July and continue into October. It's very protracted migration similar to Cultus. Sockeye migrate into the Harrison Lake and hold in deeper parts of the lake. In October and November, they begin moving downstream to spawn. Peak of spawn in mid-November. In August and September there can be many prespawns in some years that drift downstream from the lake.
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You nailed the site; too bad my memory has failed me a bit as to the date but as you know I was pretty busy back then ;) Fish were dying throughout the watershed and I was tasked with obtaining samples of them. We often dump on FN for their fishing practices (me included) but I have to say they were instrumental, and a tremendous help to the sampling programs I was involved with during those years of high pre spawning mortalities.
Yeah, those were the years (including 1998....but not in March..... :D) where Fraser Sockeye were entering freshwater earlier than normal.
Harrison Sockeye came in well below brood last year along with many others. These are the Fraser Sockeye that apparently do not swim past fish farms. There's another of Morton's theories that has bitten the dust.....Poof!
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as I am sure most of you well know, the Harrison- Lillooet- Weaver system hosts a number of runs to different rivers and all have to pass through the Harrison River. I remember the big die off well as I fished the river then and certainly noticed the large number of morts. The best I recall the Weaver late fall fish were included in the early return phenomena that effected the Adams River run though you can correct me if I am wrong.
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as I am sure most of you well know, the Harrison- Lillooet- Weaver system hosts a number of runs to different rivers and all have to pass through the Harrison River. I remember the big die off well as I fished the river then and certainly noticed the large number of morts. The best I recall the Weaver late fall fish were included in the early return phenomena that effected the Adams River run though you can correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct.
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Yeah rriiiight, that's what you meant...lol. Your superior comprehension skills? What about your superior communications skills...lol? What happened to those skills? Why didn't you just say Fall of 1998? Maybe when you typed so slow you were thinking about Super Bowl commercials and not about how ambiguous your response was. I knew the date was wrong already (the media does make errors) because I have actually been there when those Sockeye migrate in, spawn and die. I actually watched these carcasses floating downstream from Harrison Lake in the October. Better luck next time. ;D
I'm sorry you're too thick to comprehend what was said "7 seconds in it says March 99, so I'm betting 98" ::)Makes perfect sense to most humans. Where would you like your Richard D. Cranium trophy sent? ;) When was the lunch date and I can bring it with me, along with the presentation panel of judges? ;D
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I'm sorry you're too thick to comprehend what was said "7 seconds in it says March 99, so I'm betting 98" ::)Makes perfect sense to most humans. Where would you like your Richard D. Cranium trophy sent? ;) When was the lunch date and I can bring it with me, along with the presentation panel of judges? ;D
You mean it makes perfect sense to delusional people like yourself. Keep playing your games while the adults here talk about the issues.
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You mean it makes perfect sense to delusional people like yourself. Keep playing your games while the adults here talk about the issues.
Did you decide on a lunch spot yet? I'm looking forward to meeting the real Brian the Biologist! ;D ;)
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I now have the original tape that I found in my video vault as well Dave gave me his copy. I am uploading 15 minutes of this now to show a little more of what was done that day, will post here later. The year was 2000 and we filmed on August the 15th.
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Here is a portion of the raw tape I filmed for Global TV for anyone that may wish to view it. https://youtu.be/jU-sGcZJwS0
Dave looking good too. ;D ;D