| Rod: | 9' to 10'6" baitcasting or centerpin rod, rated between 8 and 20lb |
| Reel: | Small baitcasting reels or centerpin reels |
| Main line: | 12 to 15lb test |
| Leader: | 6 to 10lb test |
| Hook: | Size 4 to 2/0 |
| (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook01.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook02.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook03.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook04.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook04.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook05.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook05.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook06.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook06.jpg) |
| Adult chinook (over 62cm) | Adult chinook (over 62cm) | Jack chinook (under 62cm) | Jack chinook (under 62cm) | Black gum with white jaw edge | Small spots across both upper and lower parts of tail |
| (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho01.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho02.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho03.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho04.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho04.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho05.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho05.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho06.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho06.jpg) |
| Wild adult coho (with adipose fin) | Hatchery adult coho (without adipose fin) | Hatchery jack coho (without adipose fin) | Absence of adipose fin with healed scar on hatchery coho | White gum | Small spots on top portion of tail |
| (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_pink01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/pink01.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_pink02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/pink02.jpg) |
| Male pink salmon with hump back | Large spots across tail |
| (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum01.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum02.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum03.jpg) |
| Female chum salmon | Male chum salmon with teeth | Striped back |
| (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_sockeye01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/sockeye01.jpg) | (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_sockeye02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/sockeye02.jpg) |
| adult sockeye in spawning colour | adult sockeye prior to spawning stage |
River was great with 3-4 feet of visibility from the crossing down at 8:30/9:00 am when we fished it. Went to the canal as well and fished down till around 10:00 am. After that we went upper river to take a look and it was complete mud and around 3 inches of vis. On our way back down at 11:30 am, the crossing was already down to a foot. It'll take a few days now to come back into shape with how bad the upper river and Slesse creek looked.
Congratulations! For your 50th Wedding Anniversary.
I hope you and your wife have many....many more to celebrate!
Water flow seems very quick too. Tossed some spoons and tried doing some float fishing. However the presentations went by quickly..For pinks I find try to find some slower moving water, they like to lay in this area.
Water nice this AM, landed a good number of pinks, all males.
what are you fishing with?Deli shrimp with a little pro cure added, a tad of pink wool also. Cannot miss with that.
im using a prawn tipped jig and all i have caught so far is a hatchery steelhead.
what are you fishing with?A hatchery summer run on the Vedder would be a spectacularly rare catch. I believe the hatchery only sees one or two summer runs per year.
im using a prawn tipped jig and all i have caught so far is a hatchery steelhead.
A hatchery summer run on the Vedder would be a spectacularly rare catch. I believe the hatchery only sees one or two summer runs per year.I believe TheLostSockeye may have been talking about catching a steelhead smolt. Could be wrong, but as you mentioned, extremely hard, or pretty well impossible to catch a summer run steelhead on the C-V.
River was boiling with them tonight and they were very willing biters towards dark. Took a limit of fresh ones, will try canning, never had before. I know, most likly not as good as other salmon but of course fish are good for us, while they are not from pens. :-X
I believe TheLostSockeye may have been talking about catching a steelhead smolt. Could be wrong, but as you mentioned, extremely hard, or pretty well impossible to catch a summer run steelhead on the C-V.
Fished the Lower from 6:30 to about 9:15 this morning. Conditions excellent with good visibility. Must have landed about nine pinks, all males. Retained one clean buck. Hopefully it will taste alright. Yet to catch a doe this season. No one around me got any does either.Bucks taste better than does anyways when they're fresh, but they don't provide the roe that you might want for baiting coho.
was about 10th cast
what kind lure did you user?I was short floating pink jigs and later tried a pink wool/shrimp combo that Chris mentioned which produced quite a few fish as well.
Fished a little way down river from Bailey Bridge. Caught our limit in 2 hours. Reasonable clarity, about 4-6 inches.
4-6 inches! Cheakamus or Vedder?\
\I don't think you're doing anything wrong. I got skunked this morning on the Lower Vedder. Some days you get fish, some days you don't. Just yesterday I hooked and landed well over 20 pinks on the Lower and today I didn't get any. A little tip is to try something a bit different. The fish see so much pink wool etc. so changing it up a bit can make all the difference.
More like 4-6 feet ;D
Fished all day but only landed 3 male pinks...
So many fish in the river but it feels like i'm doing something wrong.
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More like 4-6 feet ;D
Fished all day but only landed 3 male pinks...
So many fish in the river but it feels like i'm doing something wrong.
I was fishing the Sumas. Perhaps it was clearer up river.
That makes more senseThere seemed to be less fish than a couple of days ago too. I managed to get 2 of them to bite. The rest of them were all snagged by accident so they are definitely around but not as willing biters this morning.
To everyone else: Went out today and landed 4 pinks. Lots in the system but kind of tight-lipped.
twitching jigs for pinks usually result in snagging the fishIf you are snagging fish by twitching then you need to twitch faster to keep your jig near the surface so the fish will rise and bite the jig.
Exactly too many people are ignorant to my help, was at the cap today and saw some guy twitching jigs but he was always snagging he still kept 2 fish and left as i called the dfo, whata shame told him that he should put it under a floatGood on you for trying to help, I find most people appreciate the help but there are some that will ignore it and go about their technique.
You don't have to strike at every bump.
Sometimes you have to be patient.
If you're snagging too many than its time to move!
Fished the lower this morning for a few hours. Lots of pinks storming through the system. Landed quite a few of them too. On my third drift through the run, the float dipped and a nice sized white Chinook took my bait. Played him out for 15 minutes, took a quick pic and sent him on his way. Nice to see some showing up. (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsk5ctbcni.jpg)
Fished the lower this morning for a few hours. Lots of pinks storming through the system. Landed quite a few of them too. On my third drift through the run, the float dipped and a nice sized white Chinook took my bait. Played him out for 15 minutes, took a quick pic and sent him on his way. Nice to see some showing up. (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsk5ctbcni.jpg)
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Nice spring
chucking guts? or hardware?Short floating freshly cured pink roe.
Short floating freshly cured pink roe.
Fished the lower this morning for a few hours. Lots of pinks storming through the system. Landed quite a few of them too. On my third drift through the run, the float dipped and a nice sized white Chinook took my bait. Played him out for 15 minutes, took a quick pic and sent him on his way. Nice to see some showing up.
Fished the lower this morning for a few hours. Lots of pinks storming through the system. Landed quite a few of them too. On my third drift through the run, the float dipped and a nice sized white Chinook took my bait. Played him out for 15 minutes, took a quick pic and sent him on his way. Nice to see some showing up. (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsk5ctbcni.jpg)
If you plan on releasing a fish don't drag it on the rocks.It wasn't dragged on dry rocks. There was still water in between the rocks. It was a quick 5 seconds just so I could snap a picture. No harm to the fish whatsoever.
It wasn't dragged on dry rocks. There was still water in between the rocks. It was a quick 5 seconds just so I could snap a picture. No harm to the fish whatsoever.
Dry or wet rocks don't matter. It needs to be kept in the water, especially its head and gills, even for a quick photo. Take a look at some of the photos that Everyday has posted on how to take great shots without harming the fish.
Will do. I try to be as careful and gentle with the fish as possible. I'll try to keep the fish fully submerged in the water next time I attempt to snap a quick picture and just hope I don't lose it in the process. Quite hard fumbling around in my jacket finding my phone while holding the fish in the other hand I must say!
Will do. I try to be as careful and gentle with the fish as possible. I'll try to keep the fish fully submerged in the water next time I attempt to snap a quick picture and just hope I don't lose it in the process. Quite hard fumbling around in my jacket finding my phone while holding the fish in the other hand I must say!
looks flossed.
Beware of the fish photo police on the internet. Think twice before you post a fish pic ::)
It's not flossed that is a pink jig. You tie it to a float and float fish.
Beware of the fish photo police on the internet. Think twice before you post a fish pic ::)
It's not flossed that is a pink jig. You tie it to a float and float fish.
Amen.
Haters going to hate. I could care less.
Doesnt look to harmed. You must work for Green Peace?
What colour was your roe?I'm using pink salmon roe cured with good 'ol borax. It's a natural orange colour. When the water's as clear as it is now, using less intense, natural colours will outfish that "double hot red" procure stuff as the fish won't spook as easily by it. When I got that spring a few days ago, a guy was already fishing the run with some vibrant red roe with no luck and on my second or third cast in the same spot, BAM fish on. Try to use smaller fingernail size pieces as well. Good luck!
Caught lots of those pesky Pinks when fishing for Coho in the past.
I try not waste roe when there are lots of pinks in the system.
That looks like a wild 'Yo to me!Are you talking about the adipose fin? They don't clip the springs on the Vedder.
Are you talking about the adipose fin? They don't clip the springs on the Vedder.
Has anyone ever caught a clipped spring and returned the head which had the tag/chip implanted?My dad and I, as well as friends I have fished with, have done this. I think my friend got a pin in the mail with a report on what was learned from the chip, but that was over 15 years ago.
Edit - apparently it's a tiny 1mm piece of plastic implanted into the nose cartilage of coho and chinook
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/shrp-prts-eng.html
My dad and I, as well as friends I have fished with, have done this. I think my friend got a pin in the mail with a report on what was learned from the chip, but that was over 15 years ago.Yah did that years ago got a pin and the a map of the fish migration route that was the best part.
and a greyling? looked kind of like a sucker
BE CAREFULL OUT THERE PEOPLE!!!! I came face to face with a black bear twice today!! was about 5 ft away good thing it scared off.
Need some help identifying a fish... In the same spot, less than a week apart, I got this little fish on a size 2 hook twice. These fish are maybe 4-5 inches long, and both were caught on roe. They are dark-grey to black looking, kind of fattish, have a tall dorsal fin that's somewhat spiky, and a mouth on the bottom, kind of like a Whitefish. They look so ugly that I didn't even want to touch them. This talk of Greyling made me wonder.
Need some help identifying a fish... In the same spot, less than a week apart, I got this little fish on a size 2 hook twice. These fish are maybe 4-5 inches long, and both were caught on roe. They are dark-grey to black looking, kind of fattish, have a tall dorsal fin that's somewhat spiky, and a mouth on the bottom, kind of like a Whitefish. They look so ugly that I didn't even want to touch them. This talk of Greyling made me wonder.
Sculpin! That's what it was. Invasive? Harmful?No, neither invasive or harmful.
Sculpin! That's what it was. Invasive? Harmful?Actually a relatively rare fish nowadays on the Vedder.
Hoping to get out there wendsday afternoon till dark. Figured new fish would move in.
Did some of those pinks get moved out with the high water?
Hoping to get out there wendsday afternoon till dark. Figured new fish would move in.
Did some of those pinks get moved out with the high water?
Fished the river, yesterday and went mid river; Chinook was the fish of the day. In the lower, lots of zombie pinks and Chinook down there too. Connected with 1 Coho but lost it after not checking for any frays on my leader, clean cut when I reeled it in. All in all, fun day!
I had the same thing happen. Not sure what it was, but when it gave a pull pack after setting my hook, it snapped my leader and my only answer was that it must have had a fray. Few other hookups but nothing landed. Lots of soft/light takes. fresh roe every 10 casts or so seemed to be the difference.
I had the same thing happen. Not sure what it was, but when it gave a pull pack after setting my hook, it snapped my leader and my only answer was that it must have had a fray. Few other hookups but nothing landed. Lots of soft/light takes. fresh roe every 10 casts or so seemed to be the difference.
Water is great today! fishing is slow did not see a single bent rod lots of zombies floating around. Any day now should see a good push of springs and coho.
Fished mid river for a few hours then the last hour lower. I only got pinks but saw six Springs landed by fellow fisherman - one of those frustrating days where it seemed easy for everyone else. The pinks are easy to hook because their take is obvious, was daydreaming a few times and missed some subtle bites that could have been something better.
What did you/the other fisherman have rigged up?
Did it not rain in Chilliwack on Thursday? Weather report was calling for 20+mm but the water levels didnt even seem to move a tick...not much and yes the canal is (as is rest of river) very fishable, vis might be down a bit but other then that it's good
not much and yes the canal is (as is rest of river) very fishable, vis might be down a bit but other then that it's good
(http://s300.photobucket.com/component/Download-File?file=%2Falbums%2Fnn5%2Fbonhommebros%2FMobile+Uploads%2F56a3681d-e7ce-4cc8-88c4-d6cfa446825c_zps0g2vcurq.jpg) Had a successful morning on the lower ;)
Very clean looking Chinook there. Mind if i ask what you caught it on?I caught both fish on some fresh boraxed pink roe.
Had a successful morning on the lower ;)
Sounds like someone is going to chehalis lol.
Out of curiosity, what's the cause of the marble flesh?A mix of diet and genetics i believe.
LOTs of SPRINGS in the VEDDAR!
GOOD CONDITIONS
Was out on Saturday Sept 26.
Rained most of the day (Morn/ early afternoon) *Water Clarity good ....
Springs were DRIVING UP RIVER like Crazy!
Lots of real BIG ONES.
GOOD LUCK ALL!
This young fella ... knew his stuff. Lots of fish being caught!
Everyone seemed "Nice"... good times.
you cant tell a white from a marble without bonking
Brought another coho doe and a spring jack to hand this morning on the lower. There really isn't a lack of coho, but it is very important that you are targeting the right water. (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/image_zps48i84ngb.jpg)No lack would be 4 coho in that picture the peak is not there yet not even in the lower, but nice fish.
No lack would be 4 coho in that picture the peak is not there yet not even in the lower, but nice fish.You're right. I guess I get a bit over excited since the fishing for me lately has been SLOW so getting one coho is hot action in my books. ;D The peak of the coho run is usually mid October so we have a ways to go.
Isn't retaining Coho in the Chilliwack river closed for now? Or is there something I missed.There's something you've missed. You are allowed four hatchery coho a day on the C-V. All wild coho need to be released with care.
Good times this weekend indeed. Combat fishing at its best. Thought there was gonna be a fistfight for sure lol. Fishing in tight quarters is one thing but some fishermen have zero respect for others. Shame. Good roe bite at first light. Fish on, fish calm I say.
Not pointing fingers BUT, I saw a number of fish hooked as well but not a lot in the mouth :(
Ditto! I saw another fisherman hooking loads of Springs, including a monster 50lbs female. He threw each and every one of them back.
Hat tip to him!
Are you being sarcastic?
Just curious: Has anyone ever commented on another fisher snagging or using poor etiquette in this area and had the person actually change their ways?
Just curious: Has anyone ever commented on another fisher snagging or using poor etiquette in this area and had the person actually change their ways?
It just seems like a good way to pick fights, make enemies and detract from an otherwise positive fishing experience.
When I noticed it I just went down-stream where I didn't have to witness it and had an earlier shot at the run. Otherwise, I think all you can really do is call it in and hope a conservation officer sees it.
As for picking up a fight, I only make sure I am not the one to strike first and that there are witnesses.I can't imagine anyone in their right mind picking a fight with you, geeeez, your hands are the size of basketballs!
Self-defense is a powerful motivator, and it is legal. ;)
One can hear Milo before you reach the water and you know to be afraid..... :o
No luck today. lots showing. I'm assuming that because the water is down and clear that it becomes harder to entice a bite?The fish spook easier when the waters low and clear and they can become quite tight lipped. Downsizing your gear is a good bet. I run 12lb main, a 15 gram drennan, a couple split shots, 6lb fluoro leader and a size 4 hook with a small sized piece of roe. First light is your window of opportunity to get biters when the waters low and clear. Once the sun hits the water, it becomes challenging, especially when you have beaks ripping the water to a froth.
The fish spook easier when the waters low and clear and they can become quite tight lipped. Downsizing your gear is a good bet. I run 12lb main, a 15 gram drennan, a couple split shots, 6lb fluoro leader and a size 4 hook with a small sized piece of roe. First light is your window of opportunity to get biters when the waters low and clear. Once the sun hits the water, it becomes challenging, especially when you have beaks ripping the water to a froth.6lb fluoro for springs? I guess you're targeting the smaller ones in the slower water.
6lb fluoro for springs? I guess you're targeting the smaller ones in the slower water.
torpedo weight that I darkened by leaving in some old coffee grounds to darken....
The fish spook easier when the waters low and clear and they can become quite tight lipped. Downsizing your gear is a good bet. I run 12lb main, a 15 gram drennan, a couple split shots, 6lb fluoro leader and a size 4 hook with a small sized piece of roe. First light is your window of opportunity to get biters when the waters low and clear. Once the sun hits the water, it becomes challenging, especially when you have beaks ripping the water to a froth.
I was running 10lb floro and reduced the amount of roe. I was drifting a pretty big slow back eddy. Im not even sure how deep it was but I played with my depth thru the day.IMO, first light is more productive. It just makes sense that it would be. The fish are pounded by anglers all throughout the day so I would imagine that the fish encountered in the evening are a bit spooked and sore lipped. Fresh schools of fish push up through the night and into the early morning, so if you get there at first light, it would make sense that you would have a greater chance of encountering fresher fish more willing to bite until the TOWers start spooking the fish. This is purely speculation though. ;D Don't get me wrong, I have caught fish at last light too, but there's nothing quite like the first light bite.
I did get to scoop up 5 nice floats that collected in a blockade at the back of the pool. so... i didnt leave without something.
Im wondering, is first light more productive than "last light"
ok that's pretty extreme.... lol. ;D
I was drifting a pretty big slow back eddy."
Chinook tend not to hold in big slow back eddies, and prefer the faster deeper water. So if you were chasing chinook, then it is pretty low margin water for that target species.
On the other hand, if you were chasing coho then you were in a money place. Coho will hold mid-depth and mill around in an eddy, and a variety of baits/lures can be effective to take them. The bulk of the coho run is yet to arrive so keep that back eddy in mind; it might be golden later.
All those springs rolling and showing must have been out of place then... Ill let them know next time im there. :P
But did you catch any? ;)
I debated throwing out my unsolicited advice; normally I don't. Just my personal experience over the years. Take it for what it's worth. Cheers
How's the Vedder river been this last week or two? Mayhem? I'm hoping to hit one of the rivers this weekend on Saturday with a friend of mine at first light. How difficult has it been to get a spot? Based on reports it's looking like I either need to hike in somewhere a little less fished or find a different river. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Better off going later, see where everyone is and fish where they aren't.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Fishing%20pics/Spring%20caught%20nymphing_zpscqsrkigb.jpg)You Rock dude!
You see anyone around? ;)
Must of of been a hell of a fight, what weight is your fly rod?
Water is getting quite low again, dropping a bit steadily and now the bite is really short first thing in the morning. Landed my first coho of the season this morning, a wild doe around 4lb. Saw another similar size hatchery fish landed. Chinook salmon were still active, but for some reason were not too interested in our roe unlike last week.
Water was fairly cool this morning but by around 10-11 it started to feel a little warmer and that is around when the fish started to hit. The water level moved down but not a lot.
I landed two springs today, the doe I landed had a giant 3/0 octopus hook stuck deep in the middle of the back... its clear the person was intentionally snagging it as the hook was tied up without a means to hold bait.
I wouldn't jump to your conclusion based on the way the hook was tied. Maybe the person was fishing a corky or a spin glo, which floated away when the fish broke off.True, the possiblity of that is high. I just feel that a hook tied with a clinch knot seems more like a fast act to getting a hook into a 30 pound leader.
To me, the size of the hook (3/0 - holly crap! :o) is far more indicative of snagging intentions than how it's tied.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Fishing%20pics/Spring%20caught%20nymphing_zpscqsrkigb.jpg)
You see anyone around? ;)
Milo,No wonder there weren't any people around. Must be during the last rain storm down by the canal, probably fishing for pinks.
Your jacket appears to be all wet. Where did you find rain this morning? It's been sunny and warm.
Milo,
Your jacket appears to be all wet. Where did you find rain this morning? It's been sunny and warm.
LOL! I was waiting for that one. ;D ;D ;D
It was caught Sunday, September 20, in perfect fishing conditions, while nymphing for pinks and coho. Lots of people in the popular spots in spite of the rain.
I never said I caught it today. I only stated that I caught it away from the crowds.
You are just jealous, just like big snag above. ! :P ;)
Jealous? I think ur head has gotten too big since ur former snagging days.
Jealous- maybe a little bit. That's a nice bright prize on a fly rod. Well done. Nice picture as well with the fish left in the water - it's a good humble hero pose for a great memory. I like that.
Water is clear and low today. Around an hour of good bite this morning. On the lower river I managed to catch (and release) my first coho (wild) and a few minutes later my first Chinook, around 6lb! Very exciting.Nice coho. Where's the Chinook?
(http://i.imgur.com/Mql2Wqgh.jpg)
Very busy today compared to Tuesday, looks like many people took Friday off...
You also got a hatchery coho by the looks of that picture....?Lol, at work in front of the computer. Wishing I could be on the river right now :) Fishing in my head and catching lots!
Edit: ah, fic beat me to it. LOL
Oh boy I thought that one I kept was a jack spring! It had as many spots on the bottom half of the tail at the top and the mouth was mostly black! The first wild coho I caught had a very white mouth so I figured this was a spring. I bonked it once I saw it was hatchery but it looks like I need to figure out some more identifying characteristics!
Is the best way to look at the gums where the teeth erupt? Black = Chinook? I looked at outer mouth and tongue area but not specifically the gums.
Lol, at work in front of the computer. Wishing I could be on the river right now :) Fishing in my head and catching lots!
It takes time and experience. Don't listen to everyone who is saying it's easy. It's not always easy. That said - if you're not sure, let it go. Every time.
The easiest way to identify a coho vs a Chinook is a combination the following:
Mouth - Chinook mouth is almost all black. Coho mouth is black too, but the line along the teeth (especially on the bottom) is white, as you mention above.
Tail - Vedder Chinook OFTEN have a more heavily spotted tail (top and bottom), but not always. Coho OFTEN have a less heavily spotted tail (on the top or barely at all), but not always.
Back - Chinook usually have heavier/thicker spots along their back, sometimes they'll seem oval-ish or look a bit like kidney beans. Coho typically have smaller or less dense spots along their back.
Bottom line is, no single feature is foolproof. A combination of the above should help you be fairly certain though. And each of the above is a general statement, not a rule. There are many exceptions.
Slow going on the lower this AM. Didn't get any hits today, but a coho jack was landed and released by a fellow FWR member and a 20-25 pound spring was landed and retained by a guy further up the run but that was the extent of things. Starting to run low on bait again. :-\ I need to get a spring or a chum doe.
Oh boy I thought that one I kept was a jack spring! It had as many spots on the bottom half of the tail at the top and the mouth was mostly black! The first wild coho I caught had a very white mouth so I figured this was a spring. I bonked it once I saw it was hatchery but it looks like I need to figure out some more identifying characteristics!
Is the best way to look at the gums where the teeth erupt? Black = Chinook? I looked at outer mouth and tongue area but not specifically the gums.
Slow going on the lower this AM. Didn't get any hits today, but a coho jack was landed and released by a fellow FWR member and a 20-25 pound spring was landed and retained by a guy further up the run but that was the extent of things. Starting to run low on bait again. :-\ I need to get a spring or a chum doe.
Oh boy I thought that one I kept was a jack spring! It had as many spots on the bottom half of the tail at the top and the mouth was mostly black! The first wild coho I caught had a very white mouth so I figured this was a spring. I bonked it once I saw it was hatchery but it looks like I need to figure out some more identifying characteristics!
Is the best way to look at the gums where the teeth erupt? Black = Chinook? I looked at outer mouth and tongue area but not specifically the gums.
Copy cat... ;D But thanks, I need every opportunity I can get to post this photo up. ;DHmmm looks exactly like my pics, where I put my hook into half dead fishes mouths! ;D ;D
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2009/091015-1.jpg)
Hmmm looks exactly like my pics, where I put my hook into half dead fishes mouths! ;D ;D
lol, that's exactly what I did this morning! ;D I snuck up to someone else's fish on the beach, laid my rod down, and BAM!LOL thats how you catch a hatchery coho for FWR guaranteed!
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2015/151002-3_zpsj3egjiwo.jpg)
LOL, yes, a little bit.
You are just jealous, just like big snag above. ! :P ;)
Rod those are nice fish, caught today? I presume you were casting hardware, what type of water is good for that? Deep slow pools?
Connected with three beautiful coho today but couldn't keep a single one on the hook. :-\
Caught my first chum. Surprisingly, it was in full camo attire already, sporting those large canines.
Yelled at two idiots to let go a spring they wanted to keep even though it was foul hooked. I am glad they listened because I was really cranky due to back pain.
Should be good tomorrow morning for those that get there really early. The weather report calls for more sunshine meaning wary fish once the sun is out. Water dropped even more, yielding a lot of hardware in the canal. I found so many spoons, spinners and jigs with barbs (even treble hooks), it's not even funny anymore.
Don't people know the rules or do they ignore them deliberately?
Looking forward to a quiet Sunday at home.
Tight lines to all those that head out.
Fished all day saturday and it was probably one of the busiest days I've ever seen. Wanted to start lower so I broke my own advice and went early to grab a spot. I was 1 1/2 hours early and a dozen guys were already set up and waiting :-\ Moved to a less crowded spot but it was slow all morning. The busy spot only yielded 2 coho and a spring for those guys.
Went mid river which was packed. Got in an argument with a guy. Me and a buddy went to drop in between him and his buddy who were really spaced quite far apart. When we dropped in we realized it was way too tight for two guys so we were going to just fish one guy. The one angler started chirping that there was no room for even one of us and just kept yapping so we decided we didn't want to deal with it so just took a step back and had a break. Turns out about 20 minutes later two more of their buddies showed up and then suddenly there was enough room for them ??? Turns out he was just mouthing us off so he could reserve spots for his buddies. Needless to say we let him know that's not really how it works but he didn't seem to care. They were experienced anglers too which makes it even worse, they should know better. I guess anyone can get coho fever this time of year.
The great news is that we saw DFO all over the river yesterday. Saw them cover KWB and lower and then again at Tamahi moving their way up. Awesome to see them out there.
On another note, has anyone seen any creel workers on the river this year? Part of the budget cuts?
"Don't people know the rules or do they ignore them deliberately?"
I'm surprised by now you haven't figured it . Just look how people drive , it is the same pattern. Rules are for others.
They need to fill their freezers by any means especially when they spent money on gear, licence and gas.
It is frustrating, but DFO's budget is no existent and there is lack of enforcement.
I ran into a member from this forum but did not get his name but he does know how to fish as well as what the regulations are and he still killed 2 adult springs. When I confronted him he said that 1 was for his buddy at home. I then asked him if his license had a section that he could record fish for friends. Of course he said no so I asked him why he then thought it was ok to kill 2 adult springs on the same day.I guess that some people just dont care and have no ethics. I did get a picture of him and I did report him to fisheries. Could not wait around to see if they showed up because my back was too sore to stay any longer.
I ran into a member from this forum but did not get his name but he does know how to fish as well as what the regulations are and he still killed 2 adult springs. When I confronted him he said that 1 was for his buddy at home. I then asked him if his license had a section that he could record fish for friends. Of course he said no so I asked him why he then thought it was ok to kill 2 adult springs on the same day.I guess that some people just dont care and have no ethics. I did get a picture of him and I did report him to fisheries. Could not wait around to see if they showed up because my back was too sore to stay any longer.
Are limits not 4/day one over 62cm? 1 per day limit is until July?I believe Geff wrote "adult chinooks". By definition, those are over 62 cm in the Vedder.
Good job Geff. (http://austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/thumbsup-thumbs-up-approve-ok-smiley-emoticon.gif)Thank you Milo and yes it was a lame excuse and I too dont mind the passing of the rod right after the fish is hooked as long as its the very odd time. I am not going to post the picture of him as I am sure that he was embarrassed enough by me yelling loud enough for everyone to hear what he did and I am also pretty sure that he is reading this thread. I have forwarded his picture to the right people and they will keep it on file and their eyes open for him when out on their travels.
Some people just don't give a damn. As far as I am concerned, put the picture up and let's all see the face of this loser.
I don't mind someone occasionally passing a rod to a licensed buddy or a kid to play and maybe land a spring to take home, but to catch and kill more than your quota and then give a lame excuse that it is for a buddy at home is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
Off course, Rodney will probably oppose this, but IMO public shaming and steep fines are the only way to get people to smarten up.
I believe Geff wrote "adult chinooks". By definition, those are over 62 cm in the Vedder.
Where did the clipped springs come from? I didn't know there would be any there...7
Fished the lower from about 6:30 to 9:45 this AM and managed a hatchery buck. Missed one or two other fish as well. Quite busy despite being nearly dark when I got there. I don't know how these guys can even see prior to 6:00 AM. ;D (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn5/bonhommebros/Mobile%20Uploads/94a6c62e-09ae-4b85-b407-53778ca802fd_zpsoe85td6j.jpg)
Hi Geff_t, I want to explain that the fish was not for a "friend at home" when you asked why I bonked the fish I said it was for my "buddy" fishing up from the guy who was having the yelling match with the native guy across the river. When you said "but he didn't catch it" then it hit me the it felt like I had done something wrong, I've passed fish to my other friends (all licensed anglers) and never had any issue with anyone in reguards to doing so (passing a fish to another angler) and I felt like I did something wrong cause of the anger you expressed towards me. I've fished since I was a kid and never done anything in reguards to breaking the laws and right now I am in very deep regret cause I may have broken the law and in all honesty not known it, I am sorry to have made you angry cause you seem like a very cool guy. Yes, we both wrote down our fish on our licenses, if what I've done is illegal then I have made a big mistake and won't take such actions again.
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Well I am glad that you now realize that what you did was against the law but I wish that you would of realized it when I first told youthat you could not keep it before you bonked it and said for me not to worry about it, that is what made me angry. It does however take a lot of guts to come on a public forum and admit that you did something that was illegal, even if you dont use your real name. This is why I did not post your picture and when I do see you again I will come to you and shake your hand and properly introduce myself . My friends and I are all very easy going and we have all loved fishing since we were kids but we take fishing regulations seriously.
Hi Geff_t, I want to explain that the fish was not for a "friend at home" when you asked why I bonked the fish I said it was for my "buddy" fishing up from the guy who was having the yelling match with the native guy across the river. When you said "but he didn't catch it" then it hit me the it felt like I had done something wrong, I've passed fish to my other friends (all licensed anglers) and never had any issue with anyone in reguards to doing so (passing a fish to another angler) and I felt like I did something wrong cause of the anger you expressed towards me. I've fished since I was a kid and never done anything in reguards to breaking the laws and right now I am in very deep regret cause I may have broken the law and in all honesty not known it, I am sorry to have made you angry cause you seem like a very cool guy. Yes, we both wrote down our fish on our licenses, if what I've done is illegal then I have made a big mistake and won't take such actions again.
Thumbs up to 243Pete for not hiding behind a computer like so many would do. Takes balls to comment on here in regards to the situation.
Yes, we both wrote down our fish on our licenses, if what I've done is illegal then I have made a big mistake and won't take such actions again.Next time if your friend is there, just hand him the rod to land it and there's no problem.
Next time if your friend is there, just hand him the rod to land it and there's no problem.
Thank you Rieber. Let's give credit where credit is due. Our fellow FWR member ribolovac (who took the pic) suggested the pose and the angle. It is much better than the traditional hero pose. I hardly take pictures of my catches anymore. But this one was rare and memorable and I am glad ribolovac was there with his iPhone to capture the moment. :)
Good job Geff. (http://austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/thumbsup-thumbs-up-approve-ok-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Some people just don't give a damn. As far as I am concerned, put the picture up and let's all see the face of this loser.
I don't mind someone occasionally passing a rod to a licensed buddy or a kid to play and maybe land a spring to take home, but to catch and kill more than your quota and then give a lame excuse that it is for a buddy at home is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
Off course, Rodney will probably oppose this, but IMO public shaming and steep fines are the only way to get people to smarten up.
I believe Geff wrote "adult chinooks". By definition, those are over 62 cm in the Vedder.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html
Ok, just so I can get this spoon fed to me...You're right.
I could retain 4 chinook out of the Vedder. 3 or 4 could be 30cm -61cm. I can only retain 1 over the 62cm.
or am i completely off and after all the numbers its only 1 adult chinook out of the vedder despite size.
Ok, just so I can get this spoon fed to me...
I could retain 4 chinook out of the Vedder. 3 or 4 could be 30cm -61cm. I can only retain 1 over the 62cm.
or am i completely off and after all the numbers its only 1 adult chinook out of the vedder despite size.
Is the bite always off so abruptly or is it a combination of water levels, clarity, number of fish?
Picked up my first Coho of the season yesterday. Couldnt have asked for a nicer fish!:)
Safe to say we will all get our chance once this storm passes.
Thanks guys! Nah, gott'r on the pin rod, would have been a real treat on the fly though! Still buzzin of that fish!Next time turn slightly to the left so we can see your fish tattoo also ;D
Landed 4 over a few hours and lost or broke off a few but it was still kind of slow until I noticed the water rise 2-3 inches and the pool I was fishing slightly changed and it turned on. I landed 2 jack springs just over the 62 cm limit that were in great shape and released them and one slightly coloured 20lb male before landing a mid 20's female that's brining in demerra right now and her eggs are curing too.
Was away hunting for last 10 days, looks like I have not missed much, looking like one of the worst years for coho on the Chilliwack Vedder or are they just late.They were waiting when you come back ;)
Fished mid river today and water was certainly on the low side but lots of hookups. I couldn't seem to land a coho but had many chances and my buddy got 2 hatches and a nice spring plus lost a few. Wasn't a lot of anglers out which surprised us but the guys fishing the run we were at got rewarded. Bite slowed down around noon so we went to the upper and I finally landed two hos ... both wild. Low water didn't seem to matter too much, maybe it was the mild weather.
Fished the upper river yesterday and had a blast hooking chinook on beads. Most of the other anglers were snaggers.Did you take the time and voice any of these facts to the these people or just rant it on a forum that will have no impact at all.
Here's a simple guide to help you determine if you're a snagger or not:
If you care more about your swing than your drift...you might be a snagger
If you have a 4-foot leader...you might be a snagger
If you stand on the same rock all day...you might be a snagger.
If you've never even heard of bait...you might be a snagger.
If you snap your rod tip at the end of every drift...you're a snagger
If you only change gear when you break off...you might be a snagger
If you don't really need daylight to catch fish...you might be a snagger.
If most of the fish you catch are foul hooked...you're a snagger
If you KEEP foul-hooked fish...you're definitely a snagger
If you think you're awesome because you still catch fish when the bite is off...you're a snagger
If your favorite thing in the world is when your float lazily flops over...you might be a snagger
If you don't even use a float...you might be a snagger
If bust in and throw your line right on top of other people's so you can "show 'em how it's done"...you're definitely a snagger
If you have a stringer of boot-dark fish...you're a probably a snagger
If you leave all your trash on the bank...you're probably a snagger
If you have no shame and don't even try to hide that you're illegally hooking fish...you're a snagger
If you don't give a crap about wildlife, the law, other people, or anything but yourself...you're definitely a snagger
I wish more could be done to crack down on flossers. Every time I go up there I am in the minority of people who are *actually* fishing. What really shocks me is the impunity with which it is done, even by "old-timers". They don't seem to care that they are broadcasting "I AM TRYING TO SNAG A FISH". Perhaps because so many people do it they think it's a legitimate form of fishing? It's perplexing. And of course since snaggers are often getting more action, those that don't know any better are like "I gotta do what that guy's doing". And a new snagger is born, I guess.
Have some frickin' shame, people.
Did you take the time and voice any of these facts to the these people or just rant it on a forum that will have no impact at all.
I dunno, YOU seem pretty offended by it.
I dunno, YOU seem pretty offended by it.Not offended as you can see i have been on this forum for a very long time, just tired of seeing the same rant over and over again comedic or serious value its old very old.
What's the ethnic background?
witnessed a group of 4 (same ethnic group) at mid river that killed 2 springs just to keep the roe. The bodies were dumped back into the river right before they left.
Besides me asking what they were doing, nobody said a damn word.
All I can say about this ethnic group is, white skin. don't know where from
witnessed a group of 4 (same ethnic group) at mid river that killed 2 springs just to keep the roe. The bodies were dumped back into the river right before they left.probably the same freaking group of people that i saw and called-in at the stave river yesterday.
Besides me asking what they were doing, nobody said a damn word.
All I can say about this ethnic group is, white skin. don't know where from
Does mentioning a person's ethnicity matter?
Does it mean anything?
No.
The issue here is rippers,snaggers , flossers.
Mentioning ones ethnicity I believe is not needed.
I'm sure there are anglers on this board who have been fishing in the Fraser Valley for longer than me, but my earliest memories go back to the early 60s and I first fished the Chilliwack/Vedder in the early 70s. All I can say is snagging and poaching has been a problem for at least that long. Yeah it's against the law and it's reprehensible but if I can philosophize a bit - the fact is when people go out hunting and gathering - they are wired up to be successful and most will stoop to it, particularly if others do it as well. The endless on-line rants and self-righteous preaching accomplishes nothing. In fact it's has a negative effect by making the situation seem worse than it is; the incidence of this stuff is exaggerated and it stirs up negative emotions. It has the potential to incite violence.
As far as on the river what can a person really do? If authorities do little and don't respond to calls, it's not much. You can point out to a snagger (a poacher really) what there doing is illegal and not right but that's about it. There's nothing to gain and much to lose by provoking a confrontation. Keep your distance and speak calmly. Even legal authorities are trained not to act unless someone is at immediate physical risk. Me if I get angry in such a situation I leave.
As far as calling the police in a situation such as the 10 vs to 2 incident related above - that's a good idea but you should know if they show they will likely be pretty skeptical of both parties in a confrontation. People who mean well often find themselves charged with assault and hauled off in a Police car.
I wonder how many Russians read FWR?Prob not many i think you are trying to say eastern europeans, too many countries and nationalities to name there but i guess just saying russian is easier lol.
Any updates on water conditions from this afternoon? Thinking of heading out tomorrow. :)ill tell you how it is if you bring me ;) ::)
I wonder how many Russians read FWR?I`m Russian and I find that comment offensive .
I`m Russian and I find that comment offensive .
im russian to and you don't see me complainingI won`t take it from him like that
im not Russian but i have a report..
Was fishing near the boundary and released a nice colored spring but also noticed a few meters down there was a gentleman fishing with wool. Not jerking after each drift but managed to hook a clean spring in the gills the fish wasent looking good when i helped him with his net he took the hook out of the gills and blood came out . we kept it in the net for a few seconds to see if it wanted to escape it did not he realesed it in some shallow water the fish didnt move after a 5 minutes so he decided to bonk it. was this wrong of him
but the fish died in the river like it would have been swept down into the current
Contrary to what some of the experiences being described here, all of my trips so far this season have been very pleasant, with or without fish. I haven't come across a single person who would practice questionable techniques. Everyone has been fishing well off the bottom and looking for biting fish, giving other anglers enough space, asking for permission to fish nearby prior to starting. Two weeks ago I fished down below KWB and shared with at least ten other anglers who were all fishing bait, targeting coho specifically, not spooking the water by standing on dry bank. This morning, the run I fished was quite crowded (around ten people on each side of the river) but everyone respected each other's space, no one was dragging on the bottom, accidentally foul-hooked fish were released with great care.
Of course, I'm not disputing there are no infractions going on out there, but I personally believe the fishery has improved in the past five years and more people are getting it. I also believe the effort being put in on this and other forums which proactively educate new anglers by showing them how fun it can be when you entice a fish to bite. Ranting about the same infractions which we witness from time to time is not going to improve the fishery. The ones who are doing the harms are not even here to read about it, they are only concerned about getting the fish to bring home. There are two things people can keep doing to make things even better - Report all infractions to DFO's enforcement, show new anglers how to fish properly when they need advices.
Putin busy knocking the cupcakes out of ISIL.
Putin: knock knock.
ISIL: who is there.
Putin: Putin!
ISIL: Putin who?
Putin you out of your misery.
Can we get back on topic after the group hug? Re: 2015 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates.
Look pretty high on Sunday/Monday.
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were the gums black? looks like chinook jack to me.
looks dead to me
Pretty easy to spot a dead salmon for anyone who has caught lots. The eyes are not looking down, the mouth is half open, the "dryness" of the skin, the body looks pretty stiff.
Clearly this thread has nothing to do with fishery info and water conditions. It's where you post something when you want a bunch of angry forum lurkers to poop all over whatever you say. Go fishing guys!
Fished the upper this morning from 8:00 - 12:00. Buddy caught a wild coho which was nicely released and saw 1 hatchery coho caught. That was it! The cohos aren't here like last year this time. Mid October last year, I was limiting on coho in my same spot every time I went. Bunch of dark Chinook and some chum roaming about though.
Any and all cohos I've hooked this year have been in 3 ft of water or less, been fishing some really skinny water for them this year. With the crazy amount of springs and now all the big barker chums that are moving in, the cohos are moving through any way they can. Stand back and out of the water if possible and you'll see results. Been short floating single eggs with little chunks of roe.
I just pack up and move on. It's not worth it. 1 guy was holding a knife in his hand when he asked my friend "what are u gonna do about it?" When my friend asked him to return a fouled hooked fish.
I understand your apprehension, but I wish I had been there with you. I give you my word it would have played out differently.
We can't always give in to idiots because if we did, they would rule the world. And that, in our human species, is not how it works. Brains control brawn, not the other way around.
hey what kind of fish is this it kind of looks like a steelhead? It was gently released after the photo.
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I understand your apprehension, but I wish I had been there with you. I give you my word it would have played out differently.
We can't always give in to idiots because if we did, they would rule the world. And that, in our human species, is not how it works. Brains control brawn, not the other way around.
By "Upper" are you meaning above the Vedder bridge? or just the usual spots below the Vedder bridge?
Fished the lower this morning with 4 other guys. One caught 2 hatch cohos and I saw one angler across from us landing and releasing a dark chum. I then moved to mid river after 10 o'clock where I was rewarded by a nice 7 lb male hatch on last year's roe. I drove by the Tamahai rapids and didn't see that many cars in the area. Maybe towing is not as productive as previous years... :DThe TOWing crew needs high and dirty water in the area you speak of.
Nice fish!
Hey brandooner that fish must have put up quite a fight by the looks of your crotch :P
BN
Nice fish!
Hey brandooner that fish must have put up quite a fight by the looks of your crotch :P
BN
Broke in the new islander and Gloomis today ;)Nice!
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Got 10 cohos today 8 hatch and 2 wild. Between the two of us we bonked 5. The other hatches were literally on the shore but the hook popped out right as I was grabbing it and they got away. Also got a nice chrome chum
beside looking at your great catch. I just want to note that there is 5 cohos and would like to know how many of the fish you retained and hoping they aren't all yours. ::)
If you take the time to read the other posts instead of assuming the worst of people, then this discussion wouldn't be needed in the first place.
Nice catches TLS.
Didn't see much action for anyone I could see today. A few chum caught, one guy left around 11AM with a spring and two coho. Was fishing mid river.River must be full of fish for me to land 2 hatchery coho salmon and a fresh run chum salmon today, most be the Maple Leaf DNE that does the trick. ;D
Glad some people slayed some fish.
I was throwin roe, wool, metal.
River must be full of fish for me to land 2 hatchery coho salmon and a fresh run chum salmon today, most be the Maple Leaf DNE that does the trick. ;D
Been out every day since Thanksgiving and haven't had the float go under once... oh man this is rough.
Not trying to be rude but if you've really been out every day all week, and hadn't had one take, something is wrong.x2
Hey Chris. It was good running into you this morning in the lower. Thanks for putting out those garbage bags! As I stated, I hooked and lost 3 coho and released a sockeye this morning. I then moved up river and landed a hatch jack and small wild coho. I lost 4 other coho as well - one beached itself before the hooked popped out and the fish got away. Nice water up there.Was good to see you too and good you had some good action. I got out for the last part of the day, 20 minutes, a good number of fishing surfacing but would not take the float down.
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Not trying to be rude but if you've really been out every day all week, and hadn't had one take, something is wrong.Trust me.... I am in the biggest slump ever and it sucks.
Trust me.... I am in the biggest slump ever and it sucks.It happens to everyone once and a while.
It happens to everyone once and a while.
If you mind me asking, do you adjust your float depth or check your presentation? I've seen a lot of people who keep fishing the same run of water and never adjust anything from how they drift to the depth of their presentation.(I constantly adjust by 2-4 inches with every 3-4th cast till my float does the tilt/ rapid bob indicating I've touched bottom, at which I'll move upwards to stay off bottom) I know I had one guy get frustrated a week ago cause he was fishing the same run but he didn't hook anything, we both fished roe but I adjusted till I closer to the bottom and did a dead drift, landed a very nice wild coho on my 5th drift.
Don't take it the wrong way, just trying to give some advice that can help as I know how much it can suck going away without a single hit when everyone else is getting something.
Thank you so much! I do adjust my float depth, but not as frequently as you do. I'll have to give that a try.
I fished saturday mostly the lower river. I'm not sure if these two kids would even read this, but I had a great time watching the first kid, around my daughters age put on a clinic with his center pin. someone has taken the time to show this kid how to fish and it was a blast to watch. he was decked out in the best gear and he kept his fish in the water until he decided to bonk it. classy kid.
he had already beached three chum by the time i had tied up the fly rod. him and his brother or older friend left after a couple of more fish.
then another kid had come to fish beside me, and this kid was not like the first. old rubber wading boots, and a 6' spinning rod. he even had the reel on the opposite side he was reeling. so i switched it for him.
he then proceeded to throw literally everything in his tackle box. he was wading past his waders and was soaking wet. i mean soaking wet, emptying his boots on shore..... man did he try hard, spoons, spinners, roe. everything. and he didn't get a sniff while i was there.
but the dedication this kid was showing impressed the hell out of me. i left shortly after fixing his reel but i'm hoping he got into some fish.
these two kids gave me hope for the future. one was classy as hell and the other so determined he's bound to find success. was just awesome to watch.
...After the bite died, he left, carrying his two fish on a stick. I followed not long after.
I came across him on his hands and knees with his arms wet up to the shoulder. "I lost my fish; the stick broke!" Sure enough, the fish had disappeared under a log jam in a deep corner pool. "I'm heart broken", he said. I lent him my net to fish around in the depths but the fish were gone. What a total bummer....
lots of nice clean and chrome chum in the bottom end yesterday morning:
I don't think I have ever seen so many chum in such condition in any FV stream in my life. It was almost like the Squamish from maybe 10 years ago.
Great tactic, Ralph. :)
Tomorrow everyone will be chasing chum in the lower while you go after all the coho that are staging in the mid river escaping the chum invasion. ;D ;D ;D
I got a nice 22 inch hatchery doe as well but didn't take it's photo or of the chum doe I killed. I don't fish on weekends so that's not my style though it may be yours.
So like how much does an average 22 inch doe weigh? - clue - the fillets weighted 1.080 kg ;D
Depends how good your fillet skills are. :o
Depends how good your fillet skills are. :o
I got a nice 22 inch hatchery doe as well but didn't take it's photo or of the chum doe I killed. I don't fish on weekends so that's not my style though it may be yours.
So like how much does an average 22 inch doe weigh? - clue - the fillets weighted 1.080 kg ;D
C'mon Ralph, you have the sense of humour of a German. ::)
One can't even say something tongue in cheek with you these days.
Looks like the Hos are in... ;)....and the chums are so clean......
....and the chums are so clean......
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it's a troll and a clear reference to my photo and post on the previous page. Some anglers still sneer at chum or there may be some other motive but who cares. I am almost never make reports on line and probably best to keep it that way.
Beauty Hoe, chrome as a silver dollar. Time to get out there!
Sorry Milo according to Rodneys chart thats between yum and meh :P lol jk nice bullet. Have you tried eating coho sashimi? i always wanted to try but never end up doing it.
Fingers crossed improve! people are catching coho in new west casting spoons like crazy. One could hope many of the fish are heading the whack way.Almost all are big and wild.
Rod, why would it end the season?
dead and zombies (Glen :'( )
Hope the season will continue after the rain though.
Heading out at first light tommorow.
I am wracking my brain right now with the question "Should I start lower, mid or upper?" dose it really matter?
am I wrong in thinking that starting lower I will run into less pressured fish?
Ahahaha Nicolas fell on top of him and Glenn slid under the garbage can.Ill report back on how first light goes. Got some absolute bomb roe im going to test out i cured up yesterday.
Im starting lower tomorrow first light ill see you there ;)
Sooooo are you saying I should start low? ahaha I tempted to start at the prisoncamp.
ok... no Walking Dead spoilers here or you'll all be banned... I'm still at season two on Netflix. :P ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESIwOYSo9aA
People should check out Gadsden's gear, lol!! Betchca there's an 1/8 " of borax crusted on the handle and on his old Avon :o
Let's not even talk about his waders ...
Nice video.
Don't fall in the river though.
You have enough procure on you...
You might get eaten alive.
People should check out Gadsden's gear, lol!! Betchca there's an 1/8 " of borax crusted on the handle and on his old Avon :o
Let's not even talk about his waders ...
Hooked a coho, almost landed her but lost her as I touched the leader. First time the trailing hook method has lost me a coho.How many fish have you hooked with the trailer hook method?
Also hooked a chum or spring, but lost it while it was deep.
How many fish have you hooked with the trailer hook method?
Just curious.
WOW! Talk about roe stains. Pink cork handle and pink Simms waders!
Is the river expected to be fishable tomorrow morning??long drive from vancouver just to turn around and go home at 6am understandable if it's impossible to know..
Most educated and ethical anglers, however, will rather leave them alone tomorrow. They are having a hard time as it is with all the mud and debris.A wise and correct post Milo ;)
With the weather report calling for even more and stronger rain and the river being blown out already, I am 100% sure that the river will be ethically unfishable tomorrow and probably over the rest of the weekend. I personally am very disappointed because I can only fish weekends, but hey, that's life.
There are a few places where the fish sit in these conditions, and some people brag about catching them in good numbers when the water is like this.
Most educated and ethical anglers, however, will rather leave them alone tomorrow. They are having a hard time as it is with all the mud and debris.
:o :o :oMaking videos now are we? The vid shows a river with about a foot of vis, still fishable. Not a blown to poo river...
I guess you have never fished the Fraser for salmon. Many ETHICAL anglers still fish the river if it's blown to poo and know that a different setup is needed and different strategy as well. To say anglers who fish the river while it is muddy is a poor statement all together and wrong. It's like saying all anglers who fish while the river is low and clear are unethical as the fish are trapped in pools.
Here's a video to help you with high water...
https://youtu.be/Pg90i41kCk8
:o :o :oAs Milo said, in blown out conditions the fish are having a hard enough time just surviving. Why not just leave them alone till conditions improve? What ever happened to respecting migrating fish?
I guess you have never fished the Fraser for salmon. Many ETHICAL anglers still fish the river if it's blown to poo and know that a different setup is needed and different strategy as well. To say anglers who fish the river while it is muddy is a poor statement all together and wrong. It's like saying all anglers who fish while the river is low and clear are unethical as the fish are trapped in pools.
Here's a video to help you with high water...
https://youtu.be/Pg90i41kCk8
As Milo said, in blown out conditions the fish are having a hard enough time just surviving. Why not just leave them alone till conditions improve? What ever happened to respecting migrating fish?
If you can't do that, fill yer boots JC ::)
To each their own though right...Absolutely, JC...have at it...we know how easy it can be when they are blind in the mud. I just don't understand why the delusion of using the rod when you can just as well grab them with your hands.
, I am 100% sure that the river will be ethically unfishable tomorrow and probably over the rest of the weekend.
Most educated and ethical anglers, however, will rather leave them alone tomorrow. They are having a hard time as it is with all the mud and debris.
...the river being blown out already, I am 100% sure that the river will be ethically unfishable tomorrow and probably over the rest of the weekend...
Most educated and ethical anglers, however, will rather leave them alone tomorrow. They are having a hard time as it is with all the mud and debris.
I would have to say the fish are under far more stress and endure far more during low clear conditions. They are trapped in pools where they are bombarded by gear day in day out. ...
Absolutely, JC...have at it...we know how easy it can be when they are blind in the mud. I just don't understand why the delusion of using the rod when you can just as well grab them with your hands.
Whoever enjoys "fishing" in a swollen and muddy river with no visibility can have at it, but it is definitely frowned upon by most respectable rods from whom I have been trying very hard to learn something in the past decade or so.
Have at it, but please don't advertise it as great angling prowess and something to strive for because it's not and you know it.
Edited to add: The video you linked to shows very fishable cloudy steelhead water with considerable visibility, not the zero viz milk chocolate mud that is running now.
ok you grumpy weekend warriors...But of course I am grumpy! Worked hard all week in anticipation of chucking a few flies to willing silvers and then we get this zero viz mud. :-/
what gibberish! Ethically un-fishable, how so? "Educated anglers", more rotting word salad.Hey Ralph, what was your occupation before you became FWR's resident curmudgeon? :D :D :D
If the river is so blown it's dangerous stay home. If it's so murky it's not worth the time or you lack the skill stay home. Ethics has nothing to do with it.
Spent a lot of time on the river today. Fished the lower in the morning until it turned into chocolate. Then we raced to the upper and i met my buddy SilverChaser and we were on a quest to find clear water. We checked the top out and sure enough it was murk up there as well. So we headed downriver to a hole by W rd. we looked at the hole from the dyke side of the river and it looked good and clear with 1-2 ft visibility so we bushwhacked our way over there. By the time we got there the visibility was even worse and worsening. We fished there for about 45 minutes and we tossed spinners, roe and tried twitching jigs all with no avail. (There were a few risers in the pool) We stopped fishing because visibility turned to 0.Fun day for sure, with a nice little surprise at the end.
We then headed upriver to a spot i will leave unnamed. We hiked quite a way, around 3-5 kilometers and we finally found some water that had some visibility around 1-2ft. I then proceeded to put a golf ball size chunk of roe on my hook with my 10lb leader and 20 gram float i casted out into the murk and about 10 seconds into the drift the float sinks! Bam! Set the hook and a big nooky was staring me in the face. A long fight around 10 minutes climbing around trees trying to keep this thing on the hook. Good thing i had SilverChaser there as after i had tired out the Chinook he was able to tail it and bring it up on shore for me. Lying in front of me was a 20lb(weighed it) hatch doe that looked in decent shape for a spring almost in November. I proceeded to bleed the fish take my photos :).
After a while i cut it open and to my disbelief the roe sacks were huge and intact looking nice and ready to be cured up! I gave SilverChaser one skein of the roe as he tailed the fish for me.
Here is what it looks like:
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Nope. Wrong. Vis was absolute 0 yesterday aftrrnoon
We then headed upriver to a spot i will leave unnamed. We hiked quite a way, around 3-5 kilometers and we finally found some water that had some visibility around 1-2ft.
Hey Ralph, what was your occupation before you became FWR's resident curmudgeon? :D :D :D
::) ::) ::) Just because say the crossing has low visibility it doesn't mean that the entire river does.
River mud and heavy rain but there is still some out there, I guess they enjoy fishing in the rain and watching the debris floating by. :PWas it Johnny Canuck? ::)
Was it Johnny Canuck? ::)
Just checked the hydrometric graph.... as of last night, the river was just shy of 2.5 metres. Checked this morning and it was dropping to 2.2 metres. Went out to check it out and the water was coming up for sure. As of 3:20 pm, the water level is just short of 3 metres. Wow...New runs now in the making.
and some don't work and fish anytime, then they die.A life wasted if you ask me.
Is anyone out yet today and have a report on the visibility?
Are they "MIGHTY SALMON" or are they "PATHETIC WIMPS"?It's salmonids, and a combination of 1 and 2, depending on the variables involved.
Okay .... I do not want to make this "Personal"... but cant help but point out the Glaring Contradictions that are being stated by many members of this form.
Which one is it for SALMON:
1) Are they magnificent, powerful ... diverse fish
- capable of swimming up hundred of miles
- Jumping over huge waterfalls & Class 5 Rapids
- Swimming through as little as 4-6 inches of water for miles (Ever see them in ridiculously small streams?)
- Navigating through Rocks, Log Jams .... Debris and obstacles
or
2) Are they Pathetic wimps
- Incapable of overcoming obstacles
- Unable to handle "Double Double" water conditions, Low water....
- Cant be Caught & Released without Dying
Seems that many members like to Blow their horn about how great the Salmonoids are .... but then turn around and state RIDICULOUS facts about how delicate the fish are.
Give it a break!
The salmon is a POWER HOUSE.
It can be ETHICALLY FISHED a multitude of ways under a multitude of conditions.
Period
Are they "MIGHTY SALMON" or are they "PATHETIC WIMPS"?
Okay .... I do not want to make this "Personal"... but cant help but point out the Glaring Contradictions that are being stated by many members of this form.
Which one is it for SALMON:
1) Are they magnificent, powerful ... diverse fish
You decide.
- capable of swimming up hundred of miles
- Jumping over huge waterfalls & Class 5 Rapids
- Swimming through as little as 4-6 inches of water for miles (Ever see them in ridiculously small streams?)
- Navigating through Rocks, Log Jams .... Debris and obstacles
or
2) Are they Pathetic wimps
- Incapable of overcoming obstacles
- Unable to handle "Double Double" water conditions, Low water....
- Cant be Caught & Released without Dying
Seems that many members like to Blow their horn about how great the Salmonoids are .... but then turn around and state RIDICULOUS facts about how delicate the fish are.
Give it a break!
The salmon is a POWER HOUSE.
It can be ETHICALLY FISHED a multitude of ways under a multitude of conditions.
Period
How about #3 Moronic lemmings that will swim anywhere as long as it is against the current.Why do i feel like the salmon watching a piece of juicy roe floating past my beak lol.
its milk choclate on the flow but big gobs of roe in slow water will land some gullible hoes.....
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab349/fali1000/IMAG0406_zps849uewx9.jpg) (http://s878.photobucket.com/user/fali1000/media/IMAG0406_zps849uewx9.jpg.html)
Are they "MIGHTY SALMON" or are they "PATHETIC WIMPS"?
Okay .... I do not want to make this "Personal"... but cant help but point out the Glaring Contradictions that are being stated by many members of this form.
Which one is it for SALMON:
1) Are they magnificent, powerful ... diverse fish
- capable of swimming up hundred of miles
- Jumping over huge waterfalls & Class 5 Rapids
- Swimming through as little as 4-6 inches of water for miles (Ever see them in ridiculously small streams?)
- Navigating through Rocks, Log Jams .... Debris and obstacles
or
2) Are they Pathetic wimps
- Incapable of overcoming obstacles
- Unable to handle "Double Double" water conditions, Low water....
- Cant be Caught & Released without Dying
Seems that many members like to Blow their horn about how great the Salmonoids are .... but then turn around and state RIDICULOUS facts about how delicate the fish are.
Give it a break!
The salmon is a POWER HOUSE.
It can be ETHICALLY FISHED a multitude of ways under a multitude of conditions.
Period
Are they "MIGHTY SALMON" or are they "PATHETIC WIMPS"?
Okay .... I do not want to make this "Personal"... but cant help but point out the Glaring Contradictions that are being stated by many members of this form.
Which one is it for SALMON:
its milk choclate on the flow but big gobs of roe in slow water will land some gullible hoes.....
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab349/fali1000/IMAG0406_zps849uewx9.jpg) (http://s878.photobucket.com/user/fali1000/media/IMAG0406_zps849uewx9.jpg.html)
All I've learned living in this world is that if someone says they are ethically superior or start standing on a soapbox telling you how to live ~ they should be ignored as extremist or whackjobs.
I agree. I hate people who keep telling me it is immoral for a 50+ year-old man to sleep with women half his age or younger. :P As long as it is consensual...who cares?...
There is LEGAL fishing and ILLEGAL fishing. Please report all ILLEGAL fishing. Always fish like DFO is standing beside you.Is flossing legal or illegal?
Leave the ethical BS to PETA and other nut job groups that firmly believes ALL fishing is unethical.
Thanks to all for the wonderful reports and pics for those of us that can't get out.
Those young ladies should be thanking you for your vast experience ;)
I agree. I hate people who keep telling me it is immoral for a 50+ year-old man to sleep with women half his age or younger. :P As long as it is consensual...who cares?
Likewise, if fish really take your presentation willingly, have at it.
Is flossing legal or illegal?Good question lol, in the end its up to the angler to decide if he will fish ethical but some clear laws would cut down on the wrong decision mainly due to fear of getting a ticket lol.
River is still high... but fishing was ok I guess.
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That spot produced 2 more after you left Rodney :)
So how about those water conditions and fishery information? lolX2
Fished for a few hours this morning with a bunch of chum grabbing my roe and two wild blue backs.
Water conditions aren't bad, a lot faster than last week and still fairly murky cause of all the rain, but looking at the hydrograph it should be better closer to the weekend unless it rains hard again.
Best of Luck!Thank you! ;) I'll report back again tomorrow, a friend wants to hit a few places tomorrow and I am just hoping the river calms down a little bit... rather have it sitting at something like 2 or 1.8 so I can fish some of the slower pockets of water.
We hit it early today and good fresh roe was the ticket. Also jigs worked extremely well.Put on a fishing clinic today while the rest of us just watched his float going down.
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Put on a fishing clinic today while the rest of us just watched his float going down.
Hey Rod do you run braid right to your lure or transition to a leader...couldn't tell.
BN
If you're watching his float instead of yours, then of course he'd be catching all the fish.... ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESIwOYSo9aASaw this young lad fish today. He knows his stuff for sure – landed the only coho I saw landed today. He got into quite a few chum as well.
I had all the luck today because of my blue jays hat I was wearing ;)Whats the difference between my Blue Jays hat and yours? ;)
It was a pretty good day, a few coho were sitting in less than a foot of water so it made it pretty funny to see a coho swimming less than 3 feet away from my feet. :o Hooked into only one coho but lost it quickly at the shore, one guy below at the tail out of the run got a nice hatch so congrats to him! ;D Chum are everywhere still, my buddy got a nice little doe and I hooked a couple of them... didn't land a thing today. ;D
Good chat this morning with a couple guys who fished the same run, everyone was enjoying that cold November wind right down to the half frozen finger tips. ;)
Left shortly after 10, went to Chehalis and saw and hooked nothing, my buddy was the only one who got a nice coho floating a jig today. But over all it was a good day, more hiking than landing fish today but oh well, that is the name of the game sometimes. :)
Was pleased to land a hatchery hen coho 4 to 5 pounds and also a fresh run doe chum today, made up for yesterday's blank.
Fished a lawn chair out of the river bed too, a few floats and of course a few tins and bottles to pay for today's coffee. ;D
Pathetic , just like the guys at the lickman parking lot hole . although that is cast rip, rip, rip, rip, cast and repeat
It was a pretty good day, a few coho were sitting in less than a foot of water so it made it pretty funny to see a coho swimming less than 3 feet away from my feet. :o Hooked into only one coho but lost it quickly at the shore, one guy below at the tail out of the run got a nice hatch so congrats to him! ;D Chum are everywhere still, my buddy got a nice little doe and I hooked a couple of them... didn't land a thing today. ;D
Good chat this morning with a couple guys who fished the same run, everyone was enjoying that cold November wind right down to the half frozen finger tips. ;)
Left shortly after 10, went to Chehalis and saw and hooked nothing, my buddy was the only one who got a nice coho floating a jig today. But over all it was a good day, more hiking than landing fish today but oh well, that is the name of the game sometimes. :)
Didn't see you today where were ya?
Filmed a disgraceful video yesterday at the slab on the upper river.
" Sorry about my commentary I was really pissed at this guy because he hooked a hatch coho in the belly and literally dragged it 12 feet up on shore to get the hook out. He was going to bonk if I hadn't said anything. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ppBPiwAx8
So that dude will stand at a choke point doing that all day until he snags one in the mouth? Is that what all the people fishing those rapids are doing?
Why spend $500 on a CP to just snag? so ridiculous.
Sure was chilly, only that one wild to hand and I left shortly after you did and hit the upper. No sign of coho but walked a few doggies and battled a couple springs (one was in great shape). I then hit the lower and nothing was showing itself so went back to mid-river for the last of the day and had a few dips in the first 10 casts and then nada. Nice talking with you Pete.
Didn't see you today where were ya?
Filmed a disgraceful video yesterday at the slab on the upper river.
" Sorry about my commentary I was really pissed at this guy because he hooked a hatch coho in the belly and literally dragged it 12 feet up on shore to get the hook out. He was going to bonk if I hadn't said anything. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ppBPiwAx8
What's the term Beak mean: this a slang term for flossing and ripping?
Though fishing douche bag is a little strong when referring to novices.
Those are the folks that might be taught to do it properly
I would apply it to those that are knowingly ignorant however.
Not all novices are beaks though. ...
Once I dispatched it and bled (or at least that's what I thought I was doing), I brought it down to the water to give it a rinse. It wiggled hard once and slipped out of my hand, and suddenly just darted away into the river! :o Of course I was cursing away at myself as I walked back to the rod... ;D But I was sure that it would float back up because there was no way that fish lived. Sure enough, a minute later the white belly showed up 50 feet downstream from me and I quickly ran down and grabbed it.
That happened to me on Wednesday too but I wasn't as lucky as you. I'm sure someone fishing down from me found a nice silver surprise for his dinner! I'm still kicking myself for that rookie mistake >:( :(
It's knife in the gills with rock shampoo combo every time now.Yes, indeed. Plus, no rinsing in the water without fingers fully entered and hooked into the gill! Lesson learned the hard way... :-[ :-\
It took less time to catch these two this morning than the duration of that video... ;D
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Got out for a couple of hours this morning and the first hatchery fish was hooked on the second cast a few feet in front of me as I reeled in the spoon. Once I dispatched it and bled (or at least that's what I thought I was doing), I brought it down to the water to give it a rinse. It wiggled hard once and slipped out of my hand, and suddenly just darted away into the river! :o Of course I was cursing away at myself as I walked back to the rod... ;D But I was sure that it would float back up because there was no way that fish lived. Sure enough, a minute later the white belly showed up 50 feet downstream from me and I quickly ran down and grabbed it. This time I cut the gill some more and kept it far away from the water. ::) Once I picked the rod up and made a few more casts, another fish grabbed the spoon when it was on the drop. It grabbed it so hard and started running so I thought it was a chum salmon, but turned out to be another hatchery coho around the same size. As I was landing this fish, I turned around and looked on the beach, the first fish was in the water again! :o I quickly dispatched this one, and ran back down to the water to grab the other. ::)
The rest of the outing was pretty uneventful. No more bites at the same spot which was surprising. I stopped by another spot where it produced two mornings ago, but I was sure the water would be too low. It was low, but still looked fishy. First cast in with the spoon yielded another wild fish and I decided to quit then.
Pretty quiet along the river, lots of vacant spots where you can enjoy some quality coho salmon fishing, except the Tamahi rapids, where parked cars lined up at 6am. :o River condition is still very good. Lets see how this forecasted heavy rain does this afternoon.
It wiggled hard once and slipped out of my hand, and suddenly just darted away into the river! :o Of course I was cursing away at myself as I walked back to the rod... ;D But I was sure that it would float back up because there was no way that fish lived. Sure enough, a minute later the white belly showed up 50 feet downstream from me and I quickly ran down and grabbed it.
With the rain now starting home for lunch and a nap, maybe back for an evening bite before the river blows out tomorrow.
Again on a Saturday!! >:( >:( >:(No rain at the present fairly cool, maybe it will hold for you. A few coho showing and of course lots of chum at dark but had no takers.
Story of my life! :(
Again on a Saturday!! >:( >:( >:(
Story of my life! :(
You could always go fish anyways as all it will do is increase your angling skill, a good angler can find and hook fish in any condition.
But then it is unethical ;D
Ahhh yes I forgot... So I guess hooking a fish period is unethical let alone killing one. He should just go buy his meat from a super market that way no animals get harmed or killed :o :o :o ::) :P
Because supermarket meat is made wrapped in plastic??
You could always go fish anyways as all it will do is increase your angling skill, a good angler can find and hook fish in any condition.I could, but I don't want to.
I could, but I don't want to.
I don't floss, I don't pluck, and I don't chuck guts either.
So it'll probably be a north side stream for me.
Milo, "in every life a little rain must fall.". I feel for you having just spent 2 days on a 'non-V/C' FV river and connecting with 18 coho over 2 days. Working 9 to 5 can be a bitch. I did for 32 years. On days when the rivers are blown tie flies or tend your tackle. Otherwise find yourself an indoor hobby.
Thanks for the little write up SilverChaser.I get that way too much.... kind of like drinking syrup ;D
Not sure you can call it coffee anymore, when your drinking triple triples though ;D ;)
Two of us, lower end by 930, let 10 wilds go. By 11 it was crap with less than 1 foot.(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/minnie-me/062_zps413bda61.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/minnie-me/media/062_zps413bda61.jpg.html)http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36908.0
hahaha...
As I don't smoke or play any instruments and I make sure the woman is pleased daily I find myself with a lot of free time to fish if I choose to. Some people say it's impossible to ethically hook fish when the river is murky, I call BS and decided to head out anyways. Went out to a spot I always fish in high murky water in the low mid river today and fished for a few hours after taking a nap. Water is about 3.5' deep, my float was set to 2' deep, 10lbs leader about 8" long with a #1 gammi (they are only coho after all...) golf ball size chunk of roe and cast out a rods length and wait for the little tell tale bobble before that float rockets under.
1 lucky bastard got away...
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Beauty photo! i can see you had all us in mind when you took it, nice fish.
***Almost forgot to add as I was so excited at hooking my FIRST EVER ::) coho and then 3 others a few casts later that the river had around 4"-6" vis when I left***
Beauty photo! i can see you had all us in mind when you took it, nice fish.
Actually thought of making a video to prove that it's easy to catch fish in blown out conditions. However then I chose not to give up my spot and have people pounding on it. Those fish are #56, 57 & 58 landed #59 was landed and bonked today in the short time I fished with another lost.
Bragging about catching Vedder fish? Awesome. Who keeps track of how many fish they land?Well Bryan, apparently Johnny Canuck does ;D
Bragging about catching Vedder fish? Awesome. Who keeps track of how many fish they land?
You don't keep a log for fishing? In the future I look forward to sitting with my son on my knee and going over good memories. It is also great for comparing run timings and "hot" areas year to year. This is a forum for fishing reports and discussions isn't it? It's not like I'm taking gym selfies and posting them on social media, now that would be bragging and a bit conceded.
Yeah, keeping a log is not a bad idea. Because of this, I knew that today was the perfect day to hit a spot that no one would be fishing, one that at this water levels would produce coho for sure.Wow, beautiful job Milo.
As I expected, no one in sight - not even close. But the water is still a tad high, there is still a bit of a current that I'd rather not be there. Oh well, there will be chum. Let's play!
First cast and bang, a nice fresh chum. Second cast, another, third cast, another...OK this is boring...
A change of fly buys me some peace and quiet. Time for a cigar. Watching the eagles...the seagulls...ahhh, nice day, glad I didn't stay home.
An hour later the cigar is finished, and the water has dropped another half a foot, stopping the current. It is a nice 3-4 foot deep slack now.
A change of fly and the perfect cast. Fish on! A hatchery coho.
And another. And another. And another...chit, I limited out... :o :o
Oh well, let's lie down on the big log and just enjoy being out there.
No one in sight...solitude on the Vedder...so close, yet so far from civilization... it doesn't get much better than this.
Time to clean the fish and head back to the far away vehicle. The crossing is less treacherous as the river dropped even more. :)
Should I take a pic to post?
Yeah, sure, if no pic, it didn't happen. So, here it goes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Coho%20limit%20November%208%202015_zpse4eexzxb.jpg)
Gotta love coho on the fly...
It hurts me inside wondering what happened with the roe from the 3 does in the pic Milo. :'(
It hurts me inside wondering what happened with the roe from the 3 does in the pic Milo. :'(It was 2 does. Yes, like my good buddy Tadpole stated, the delicious coho eggs are in jars ready to be consumed on toast, crackers, with butter or cream cheese. Mmmm...caviar! :D
Hey Milo, I sent you a PM but your inbox is full.
Yeah, keeping a log is not a bad idea. Because of this, I knew that today was the perfect day to hit a spot that no one would be fishing, one that at this water levels would produce coho for sure.
As I expected, no one in sight - not even close. But the water is still a tad high, there is still a bit of a current that I'd rather not be there. Oh well, there will be chum. Let's play!
First cast and bang, a nice fresh chum. Second cast, another, third cast, another...OK this is boring...
A change of fly buys me some peace and quiet. Time for a cigar. Watching the eagles...the seagulls...ahhh, nice day, glad I didn't stay home.
An hour later the cigar is finished, and the water has dropped another half a foot, stopping the current. It is a nice 3-4 foot deep slack now.
A change of fly and the perfect cast. Fish on! A hatchery coho.
And another. And another. And another...chit, I limited out... :o :o
Oh well, let's lie down on the big log and just enjoy being out there.
No one in sight...solitude on the Vedder...so close, yet so far from civilization... it doesn't get much better than this.
Time to clean the fish and head back to the far away vehicle. The crossing is less treacherous as the river dropped even more. :)
Should I take a pic to post?
Yeah, sure, if no pic, it didn't happen. So, here it goes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Coho%20limit%20November%208%202015_zpse4eexzxb.jpg)
Gotta love coho on the fly...
Yeah, keeping a log is not a bad idea. Because of this, I knew that today was the perfect day to hit a spot that no one would be fishing, one that at this water levels would produce coho for sure.
As I expected, no one in sight - not even close. But the water is still a tad high, there is still a bit of a current that I'd rather not be there. Oh well, there will be chum. Let's play!
First cast and bang, a nice fresh chum. Second cast, another, third cast, another...OK this is boring...
A change of fly buys me some peace and quiet. Time for a cigar. Watching the eagles...the seagulls...ahhh, nice day, glad I didn't stay home.
An hour later the cigar is finished, and the water has dropped another half a foot, stopping the current. It is a nice 3-4 foot deep slack now.
A change of fly and the perfect cast. Fish on! A hatchery coho.
And another. And another. And another...chit, I limited out... :o :o
Oh well, let's lie down on the big log and just enjoy being out there.
No one in sight...solitude on the Vedder...so close, yet so far from civilization... it doesn't get much better than this.
Time to clean the fish and head back to the far away vehicle. The crossing is less treacherous as the river dropped even more. :)
Should I take a pic to post?
Yeah, sure, if no pic, it didn't happen. So, here it goes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Coho%20limit%20November%208%202015_zpse4eexzxb.jpg)
Gotta love coho on the fly...
Yes still a few around but I think things are coming to an end coho wise. I was able to find one hatchery and of course the chum are still around to keep your rod bent.
It ain't over yet. ;DPete will tell you the truth. ;D
Hit the lower late this afternoon for a couple hours. Didn't hook any myself but saw a few hooked and one landed. Water still pretty high IMO. Surprised how cold it is! Almost feels like winter.Was certainly cool this AM and the 3 fish I landed did not put up much of a battle because they were moving upstream fast or because of the cool water conditions.
spot i found is prime! Hooked well over 20 cohos today. Only managed to land 10 and 8 of them were wilds! Saw 4 guys limit out on cohos in less than an hour. Still lots in there just got to find the holding water :) ;) ::) ::) ::)
spot i found is prime! Hooked well over 20 cohos today. Only managed to land 10 and 8 of them were wilds! Saw 4 guys limit out on cohos in less than an hour. Still lots in there just got to find the holding water :) ;) ::) ::) ::)Glad you have found a new hot spot leaving the other spots to us old guys. ;D ;D ;D
Keep it to yourself. Log in the details - water level, temperature, weather patterns...when you find a place where you hook into 20/coho in a single outing, you don't advertise it. I believe I know the location you speak of, as two of my friends limited out today in less than an hour and they saw other 2 guys do as well... Hush-hush...those gems cannot take the pressure the Tamahi can.
;)
Glad you have found a new hot spot leaving the other spots to us old guys. ;D ;D ;D
By the way, good work on your vid. Also good to see young people like you fishing the correct way, very refreshing when they are too many just dipping and TOW ing.
Yeah, keeping a log is not a bad idea. Because of this, I knew that today was the perfect day to hit a spot that no one would be fishing, one that at this water levels would produce coho for sure.
As I expected, no one in sight - not even close. But the water is still a tad high, there is still a bit of a current that I'd rather not be there. Oh well, there will be chum. Let's play!
First cast and bang, a nice fresh chum. Second cast, another, third cast, another...OK this is boring...
A change of fly buys me some peace and quiet. Time for a cigar. Watching the eagles...the seagulls...ahhh, nice day, glad I didn't stay home.
An hour later the cigar is finished, and the water has dropped another half a foot, stopping the current. It is a nice 3-4 foot deep slack now.
A change of fly and the perfect cast. Fish on! A hatchery coho.
And another. And another. And another...chit, I limited out... :o :o
Oh well, let's lie down on the big log and just enjoy being out there.
No one in sight...solitude on the Vedder...so close, yet so far from civilization... it doesn't get much better than this.
Time to clean the fish and head back to the far away vehicle. The crossing is less treacherous as the river dropped even more. :)
Should I take a pic to post?
Yeah, sure, if no pic, it didn't happen. So, here it goes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/milivoj/Coho%20limit%20November%208%202015_zpse4eexzxb.jpg)
Gotta love coho on the fly...
Very nice Milo! On the fly as well! Don't tell me you caught those coho on that pink fly? I'd like to break out my flyrod as well but...more big rain coming and back to work though! Nice job. :)Thank you. :)
Hoping there's some left on Sunday and that the weather is tolerable...
Yes, but there is often a difference between forecasts and reality...
Squamish area rivers offer good fishing for coho.... :-X :-XAnd this thread offers excellent opportunities for trolling.
Also, I don't have a TV, so I guess I'm stuck fishing in the rain somewhere.
Someone pmed me and their inbox was full. So I'll just post here.
I totally get what he was saying. When I posted that the area I fish is very big and there were only 2 guys fishing the opposite bank and about 5-8 guys fishing my side at any given time. I was alone by myself fishing the tail out everyone else was using a different method of fishing spoons , fly ect. I was the only one short floating roe.
What milo is saying makes sense because on that Wednesday there were 14 guys on the opposite side and 20+ on my side. Sure it may be a holiday but I bet my report caused many fisherman to give the Vedder one last shot for the season. Wednesday was a gong show and I only hooked 2 cohos.
Don't kid yourself if you think the vague reports you've put up was the reason why Wednesday was so crowded at that spot. It's no secret among locals who fish regularly that backwater had been holding lots of coho for a few weeks now. I can count at least a dozen people who have been fishing it and I don't even have many friends... It shouldn't be a surprised that words had travelled and it was going to be crowded on a public holiday just before the big forecasted rainstorm was about to hit.
I've posted my reports all season with pics and have still been able to fish alone on just about most days. This is partly because the spots I've fished are not as productive, but I'll take catching a couple per day by myself than catching a few more in a more crowded spot any day. Keep the reports vague, show some nice photos without backgrounds, it keeps the thread entertaining, motivates people to find biting fish and fish properly, and still be able to enjoy quality fishing.
The paranoia hasn't changed in 15 years since this forum began.
just filmed this at peach road!! Carving some new runs!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8fn_vJH9Iw
Dave
You are going to have experience more than what you see on the video before J.C. returns, much more. I am not joking.
I think the JC you're thinking about is a little different to the JC Dave is talking about.Not according to him! ;D
Any updates? It's not raining in Vantown, how's the water today?
Alway check the cams. The last picture shows conditions now. Second picture is what you want the river to look like.
At 13:50 today I'd estimate vis at 12"
October 30
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Nov 2, 1:30 PM
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Now:
(http://www.chilliwack.ca/main/images/cameras/cam16.jpg)
This will almost certainly be the last chance for coho this year, so if someone could throw me a bone that would be very appreciated.Try the northern side of the Fraser...Nicomen Slough, Inch Creek, perhaps even the Chehalis or Harrison. I'd place my money on the Nic.
Try the northern side of the Fraser...Nicomen Slough, Inch Creek, perhaps even the Chehalis or Harrison. I'd place my money on the Nic.Nic and Inch is 10 minutes from my house. Was shocked to see about 100 cars there today. Looking down Inch guys shoulder to shoulder just like the Canal. This little system was taking a beating.
The Stave is another option if you don't mind the crowds.
Nic and Inch is 10 minutes from my house. Was shocked to see about 100 cars there today. Looking down Inch guys shoulder to shoulder just like the Canal. This little system was taking a beating.
...sorry to nit-pic but the fishible waterway is Norrish (Suicide) creek Norrish (Suicide) Creek
Coho
Apr 01-Mar 31
4 hatchery marked fish per day, only 2 over 35 cm. .......not Inch.....Inch Creek
from the hatchery outlet to the confluence with Norrish Creek/ Nicomen Slough.
All
Apr 01-Mar 31
No fishing for salmon.
Love how spots that were seemingly empty a few years ago now have shoulder to shoulder guys trying to floss a few coho.
Love how spots that were seemingly empty a few years ago now have shoulder to shoulder guys trying to floss a few coho.
Forum mentions like this might have something to do with that. :(Nah, the true gems that sustain naturally occuring wild populations are hardly ever mentioned on forums because those who fish them know better. As for all the hatchery enhanced flows, who cares? That's what they are: put and take fisheries meant to provide entertainment and some meat to the masses.
Nice filleting job, young man! :)
Message from search and rescue. https://t.co/rnCuOX2wQsWow....I'm happy I left when I did. It was definitely lower but I kept my eyes peeled for the water levels by looking at the shoreline and moving up and down the banks.
Water will still be high on friday. Safe to say season is over for most of the rivers.
Water highest in at least two years.
We are fortunate we have a number of off river spawning channels that have been built over the years that are very important when we have these high water events in the main river. Well done all those involved in getting them built.This.
Also having the Chilliwack River Hatchery fits into the equation as well.
LOL
??? ??? ??? Numbers in the Fraser are totally down, the high water tends to push fish up river to the hatchery as fast as possible and we're already in mid-late November which by most years has wrapped up the salmon season. If you live close by it's always worth checking out but for anyone who travels a bit of a distance it might not be worth it this season.
Where there is loss there will be gain somewhere else. There is no doubt that some beds dried up and there will be loss there! I wonder how many cheddar pinks spawned in the mainstem Fraser this year to counter balance the loss, great year for that senerio. Sure is funny how Mother Nature works sometimes! Not all salmon return home all the time but the offspring may in 2 to 6 or 7 years"Chinook".I also appreciate the respectful dialogue :D It really is a shame DFO no longer has the budget to enumerate pinks and chums properly, as they really are the cornerstones to healthy coastal river ecologies.
Great having a good discussion with you Dave. Cheers
Buck and I were in the upper river this morning, checking on the entrance to Centennial Channel. During the summer DFO's habitat restoration unit gave Buck and I the green light to oversee a new design for the entrance to this channel.. We had a superb machine operator at our disposal and we think we did a pretty good job of making this entrance more fish friendly ;) I had looked earlier on and saw thousands of pinks using it but we wanted to see today if the high water had changed things ... it had, but still we saw quite a few coho in the upper end. Our steelhead counts in the spring will give us more information.Good work!!!
All the way to Slesse Creek is chalky white, indicating some major clay bank intrusions. Imo, even with freezing temperatures overnight this river will not be fishable for a few days. Others however may disagree ;D
There's no coho left the seasons over!!! Remember?!? :o
Everyone head to the river!!! one guy got one fish!!! lol ;D
Upper was really high and brown, lower was worse.
Took a first hand look today and the river is in very bad shape. Some local rods say it could be weeks before it clears. :o
What is causing such low vis? Its been dry the last few days right?
Has anyone hooked into any steelhead yet? The colder weather and less crowds on the river really has me day-dreaming every time im out ::)My buddy landed a nice 12 pound hatch early Nov.
My buddy landed a nice 12 pound hatch early Nov.That's great to hear, Floater. Although I wonder sometimes if some of you guys posting here secretly work for Chilliwack Tourism, or at least the gas companies. ;)
My buddy landed a nice 12 pound hatch early Nov.
Buck, Dave and I looked at the river conditions today at the Crossing, not encouraging.
Chris water level same as yesterday or has it drop alittle.
Thanks
Calling for lots of rain starting on Tues. Get out there and fish hard for the next few days. Go to the top end for what ever steelhead have come in will rocket up to there.
so this happened today LOL!!!!!! ;D ::) ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCpvv-QtsA
went out this afternoon above the crossing. trekked along the river for about 2km until i found a pool loaded with trees from the highwater last week . water was clear so i approached the pool slowly and drop shotted a jig just along the drowned trees. 2 casts later beached a nice 6lb hatch coho. called it a day and headed back. last trip before the rains start again. Water has dropped significantly and most pools earlier this week that held coho are drying up. Still plenty of late chum trying to spawn out there.
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hey what kind of fish is this it kind of looks like a steelhead? It was gently released after the photo.
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Quite possibly a bit random as this was posted back in early October, but something that should not go unnoticed. I happened to come across this randomly scrolling... Regardless if you actually caught this fish LostSockeye, or you found it, this fish is most certainly dead, and is most certainly a Steelhead. This is something that should not go unnoticed for many anglers who have not pointed out that it is in fact a Steelhead. I am not trying to stir the pot, but this is something quite important to bring up considering the time of year this fish was in a system it was most likely not destined for, but more so a system much further up the Fraser. Just a heads up.
My post was not went to be considered trolling, but more so informative as it was glanced over by many anglers, and it is important to know what we are fishing for when we are out there. In this case, improper fish ID was used. Regardless, I am not pointing fingers at anyone, but simply implying the correct species. It is a Wild Steelhead which looks deceased, (for more than just a few minutes as well). Like I said, no finger pointing here, just being informative. Also to add, not being an active member, this is something I happened to come across a nd thought it would be helpful to point out to newer anglers. Cheers.
Quite possibly a bit random as this was posted back in early October, but something that should not go unnoticed. I happened to come across this randomly scrolling... Regardless if you actually caught this fish LostSockeye, or you found it, this fish is most certainly dead, and is most certainly a Steelhead. This is something that should not go unnoticed for many anglers who have not pointed out that it is in fact a Steelhead. I am not trying to stir the pot, but this is something quite important to bring up considering the time of year this fish was in a system it was most likely not destined for, but more so a system much further up the Fraser. Just a heads up.
Tough, tough call as to species.
Not a bio Milo, just a grunt technician ;D
The thing that rattles my chain the most is the bs about that fish being release.
I am extremely sorry for lieing about the fish being alive. Again im not sure what caused the mortality of this fish.
Only reason why i lied was beacuse i though it would be easier to say it was alive than explaining why there is a dead wild steelhead on the rocks there. OBVIOUSLY NOT!! if it stirred up this hornets nest.
This was the one and only post i lied about thats it.
Thanks for coming out and telling the truth. No sweat.
Show me a person who says they have never lied and I'll show you a lier. ;)
May this experience be a reminder that there are only two things in life that you cannot hide: coughing and the truth.
On another note, what happened? You stopped catching coho and chum?
*liarGood catch, JC. :-[
Way to embarrass members who have been supporting you... What are we supposed to believe now?
X2 on manning up on it LostSockeye, at least you got the balls to come forward to explain things in light of all that has been said. We all make mistakes once and a while cause after all, we are only human.
Like blaydRnr said "let's move on."
So.....anyways, not that proper fish ID is not important, but can we please get back on topic?See post above. "As for the fishing.... River is pretty clear. I'd estimate visibility to be around 5 feet (at least where I was fishing). I fished all morning, moving around a lot, and finally was rewarded with a nice 'ho doe. Haven't caught many this year, so today's result was quite satisfying."
So, how's the river looking today anyone?
In all honesty, I would have thought it was a coho :-[........back to the drawing board for me for better fish ID
hey flyfishingmagician...that avatar was from a local river in surrey a few years ago. One thing i did notice is that the coho so far seem to be all the same size and same average weight. Caught nothing over 10lbs this year and all look somewhat malnurished or under fed as opposed to the coho last year which had good weight and size. My average last year was 9-12lbs. This year 4-7lbs. Very few large males in the hatchery as well. Even the males i retained were small or undersized for the vedder. :-[ Wonder if other anglers noticed it this year.
The coho that returned to the Campbell Quinsam system this fall where of nice size. My friend told me about a couple of wild ones in the 18-20 lbs range. I had a fair amount of fish 10-14 lbs.
Monday of last week I released a steelhead 20 lbs. or better. There had been reports of a few fish in the 5-7 lbs. range. I got two the next day about that size and lost one today, small also.
Lots of the coho forage fish have disappeared from the ocean in the last couple of yrs. along with a lot of the plankton.
The pinks that returned to this system where a lot smaller than the previous years.The predicted run size was about a third of what the where expecting. The chinook return was poor also with the hatchery getting barely enough fish for their egg take. Last yr. they didn't get their egg expectation for chinook
The hatchery is only putting out 500,000 cohos smolts this coming yr. due to the dramatic increase in the price of feed for the fish over the last few yrs. Less biomass as sardines, pilchards,herring, anchovies? More demand from the plague of fish farms?
A lot of the sea mammals are in trouble too with whales, seals,and die off of birds that are unprecedented.
Quite a few web sites are pointing their finger at the uncontrollable discharge of radiation into the Pacific Ocean from Fukushima Daiichi the nuclear plant that was destroyed by the earthquake and tsunami in March 11/2011. They say this disaster is poisoning the whole Pacific ocean.
This radiation is only going to bio-accumulate in the food chain and we are at the top of this chain. What this is going to do to us only time will tell.
There is a court case going right now with Dan Durnford. His web page is The Nuclear Proctologist.org or google it. He has some very interesting pictures and research done over the last yr. I think you will find it shocking.
Tights lines
hey flyfishingmagician...that avatar was from a local river in surrey a few years ago. One thing i did notice is that the coho so far seem to be all the same size and same average weight. Caught nothing over 10lbs this year and all look somewhat malnurished or under fed as opposed to the coho last year which had good weight and size. My average last year was 9-12lbs. This year 4-7lbs. Very few large males in the hatchery as well. Even the males i retained were small or undersized for the vedder. :-[ Wonder if other anglers noticed it this year.
Heres a video of the hatchery today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xfowaBIHC4
Good to see so much fish at the hatchery !
I guess the river is turning to mud for days now. :-\
Thanks for the report Sockeye. Good report... and yes, by the way the pink cork style is now in!! The trend will follow...lol
I have no doubt of his abilities as an angler but i also think being able to fish everyday prob more than once a day has lots to do with someones success just like anything you get what you put into it right. Nice fish btw.
TLS, you got your folks hiking 5km with you to get to your fishing spots? You'd better get them something really nice for xmas. And you might want to start wearing gloves, who knows how much pro cure you're absorbing lol.
Visibility poor, 10 inches this afternoon. Was told Slesse Creek is pumping in the silt.