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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: juno on August 18, 2015, 09:18:12 PM
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does anybody know if there will be an opening for PINKS. I understand the Sockeye closure but they are hard to catch casting. we have all been waiting for 2 years and now what?
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Now we fish lakes.
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I think many people are thinking that pink will open when most sockeye are past.
There may also be other places to fish pink than the Fraser...
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Lots and lots of pinks jumping on tidal Capilano river mouth. Just park the car at the furthest end of Ambleside beach near river mouth, but the bridge traffic really sucks
Lots of fishermen there but one could easily find a spot. Many including me quited after no fish was caught in 2-3 hours but a few had 4 fishes on stringer. They use buzzbomb. An old guy snagged one by the fish belly. I told him that was snagging but he pretended did not understand English and packed the fish away in a min. Recommend wader or simply a short and slipper.
Buzz Bomb are most popular. I used bright pink spinner and spoon but no bite at all. Wrong lure ?
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Buzz Bomb are most popular. I used bright pink spinner and spoon but no bite at all. Wrong lure ?
Try slowing down your presentation a little bit, sometimes when I feel small taps or a big bump, I'll almost totally stop my retrieve and BANG. I've been using the same bubble gum pink spoon since early July and it's proved to be deadly. :)
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Maybe I need a different rod for buzz bombs, but I've found the repeated yank and retrieve makes my hands really sore. Never seen a hint of action on one either, but I would not be surprised if I wasn't doing it quite right. The two pinks I caught this year were on dead slow retrieve.
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I'm not a fan of buzzbombs for Pinks, rather I have had lots of luck using Croc spoons from Gibbs Delta. There are many different colours, sizes and finishes that will work for Pinks. It all depends on the water and the rod & reel setup you have.
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The Fraser River pink salmon run doesn't really start until the end of August. If you look at the test fisheries at Cottonwood from the past four or five pink salmon seasons, you'll see that the first large catch usually occurred around the first few days of September.
Keep an eye on the fishery notices, or just on this website since they'll be posted up right away, for the Fraser River salmon reopening as we get closer to the end of this month. Reopening date will depend on the summer run sockeye run timing. Once resource managers determine that most of the summer run passes the Lower Fraser River, it should reopen.
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Maybe I need a different rod for buzz bombs, but I've found the repeated yank and retrieve makes my hands really sore. Never seen a hint of action on one either, but I would not be surprised if I wasn't doing it quite right. The two pinks I caught this year were on dead slow retrieve.
For buzz bombs I find a little stiffer/ faster action rod works best. The pull and drop or pitch and drop technique works really well, usually I just pull up fast and let the buzz bomb fall for a couple moments. Ussually the strikes are on the fall of the lure so there will be a sudden THUD or yank on the rod. I've found buzz bombs to work best when the water conditions are murky and if the area has a sudden steep drop.
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Thanks!
Yet another rod, eh? ;)
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For buzz bombs I find a little stiffer/ faster action rod works best. The pull and drop or pitch and drop technique works really well, usually I just pull up fast and let the buzz bomb fall for a couple moments. Ussually the strikes are on the fall of the lure so there will be a sudden THUD or yank on the rod. I've found buzz bombs to work best when the water conditions are murky and if the area has a sudden steep drop.
I'm also trying to figure out how to work buzz bombs and have lost all of mine after getting snagged up on the bottom :-X I think I'm gonna try a faster retrieval (at least with a shorter drop time) when fishing in shallow water (i.e. beach fishing) next time. The nice thing about buzz bombs is that you can cast much further with them (since they are heavier) than spoons/spinners..a big plus if you are fishing off a beach and want to get your lure out to a school of feeding fish that may be out of casting range for a spoon or spinner.
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I'm not a fan of buzzbombs for Pinks, rather I have had lots of luck using Croc spoons from Gibbs Delta. There are many different colours, sizes and finishes that will work for Pinks. It all depends on the water and the rod & reel setup you have.
Me too, I have got them on all kinds of presentations but the crocs have worked really well for me in all kinds of colors. (The red one with black flakes was particularly deadly last season ) The problem with the buzz bombs is they are heavy and the slow retrieve required for pinks just gets them snagged up on the bottom much of the time.
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Thanks!
Yet another rod, eh? ;)
No problem!
Another rod never hurts, I've got 2 spinning rods for cohos and pinks (Shimano Clarus and a Convergence) but I'm loving the light action of the clarus especially when hooking into a large male. Big bend and that little Shimano Sahara 2500 sings a beautiful tune. :)
I'm also trying to figure out how to work buzz bombs and have lost all of mine after getting snagged up on the bottom :-X I think I'm gonna try a faster retrieval (at least with a shorter drop time) when fishing in shallow water (i.e. beach fishing) next time. The nice thing about buzz bombs is that you can cast much further with them (since they are heavier) than spoons/spinners..a big plus if you are fishing off a beach and want to get your lure out to a school of feeding fish that may be out of casting range for a spoon or spinner.
That is the one problem I've found with buzz bombs, if the area where you are fishing on the beach is more flat and doesn't have a steep drop off then you will snag the bottom a LOT. So far this year I've found over a dozen buzz bombs at Furry creek at the lowest tide stuck on just the ground. =\ A faster retrieve will help but just note that pinks are more slower/ lazy than coho when it comes to following lures at time, but that is to say that this isn't always the rule as I've seen pinks slam fairly fast retrieved spoons and buzz bombs.
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Well, I donated the last of my spoons last night as well as breaking my rod tip.
Off to As&N with me...
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I'm also trying to figure out how to work buzz bombs and have lost all of mine after getting snagged up on the bottom/quote]
the idea of a buzz bomb is to cast out pull up on the rod then drop the tip allowing the lure to create the buzz, repeat while retrieving the slack line.
not really meant for shallow fishing,
but if you do, Light gear and small buzz bombs :) just give it a side jerk now and then as you wind in 8)
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I only use 2inch or 1.5 inch pink buzz bombs from the beach, I retrieve quite fast and never jerk the rod, I have caught lots and have lost no buzz bombs.
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Went to Ambleside / river mouth again at 8 am. Seeing many old buddies ready to leave with 3-4 on hands. Guess they started at 5:30 am
Peak tide at 10:30. In 4 hrs only 4 fishes landed among 30 fishermen casting Buzzbomb and jigs while lots of fishes jumping in clear water. Just don't understand why pinks/coho were not eager to bite when they definitely see all lures. Maybe early morning is the key ? Fishes were stuck at river mouth because river is super shallow. Is it partial reason ?
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Here's a great thread (SEARCH function works wonders!) on using a buzz bomb for pinks (and in general)...
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=33238.msg315638#msg315638
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we were, last 2 years ago fishing for pinks in the tidal portion for pinks, 3 of us, 100 + casts no fish next to us was this guy , he kept hooking fish and landing them and letting them go I asked him, not right away, what's up? he already had his limit but all males, finally I caught a pink female, and he asked to trade a male for female . He wanted the eggs. No problem he gave us 2 males any way I wanted to know what he was using . I couldn't resist any more want to know? ask Rodney for spoons!!! what we got was a gold spoon with a pink center or tape or Nail polish it worked. I am Exited to see an opening slow retrieve OH I am not allowed to give secrets out
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If you absolutely want PINKS ... RIGHT NOW:
Go up to the Squamish (When tide is coming in...)
Go to the Mamquam (Anytime)
(FRESH WATER LICENSE ... and OPEN)
Not as "Fresh" as the ocean fish (Furry Creek / Ambleside etc.) but still great catching.
* Really good in the VERY EARLY MORNING (EARLY!)
(TIDAL LICENSE... and OPEN)
Here's a little video I did with my brother when he was in town last week.
https://youtu.be/I96favF5rBI
Perfect example of bad information !!! the river I bolded and blew up is currently closed to fishing
Squamish is very good right now. Just float some pink or chartreuse wool under a float and you'll get fish, yes you may accidentally snag some but it happens when they are in thick schools.
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Perfect example of bad information !!! the river I bolded and blew up is currently closed to fishing
Squamish is very good right now. Just float some pink or chartreuse wool under a float and you'll get fish, yes you may accidentally snag some but it happens when they are in thick schools.
:D yeah , that`s right , wool and its color very very important :))))))))
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:D yeah , that`s right , wool and its color very very important :))))))))
Just stating that it really can be that simple, especially when the fish are in good numbers. My 6yr old fished a jig today while my dad and I fly fished. We all got tons of fish today in the 3hrs we were there.
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Was out in the Sechelt area of the Sunshine Coast the past 2 days. Pinks are running strong right now...most aren't taking traditional lures from the beaches though. I was out beach fishing at one of the creek mouths at low tide...lots of fish close to shore but very few were interested in buzz bombs or spoons. 2 of us gear fishermen weren't getting much besides snagged fish.The fly fishermen were having loads of luck though. I had a couple of hookups using a pink curly tail (but lost) and snagged and lost a few more..had 1 female snagged and landed..( released of course). It was definitely an amazing place to fish...few people around and plenty of fish and..other wildlife- saw grey whales on both days I was there. Did some pier fishing as well for bottom fish and brought home 6 soles.
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TimL, thanks for your report. I'm heading there next weekend for a camping trip. I've never been there, let alone fished there. I guess I'll bring the fly rod along and check out the beach scene. I'll arm the wife with a spinning rod. So, is low tide the time to go?
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Blair, perhaps the bragidose enlarged bold print stood out more than the date.
I realize you were trying to be helpful but you must remember this an OPEN forum where every dog and its master has access and most won't read the Regs and updates anyways.
All they want is a place to snag fish.
One can explain their exploits without telling where or they can find a bunch of pretend friends.
Info is awesome but very few actually appreciate it.
It's often abused.
Keep telling of your adventures but be wary of how you tell it.
(All the newbies get their crap in a knot now cuz they might have to do some ground work themselves)
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I have been on the Squamish a lot this year and I have not seen any obvious attempts at snagging or any other unethical behavior for that matter.
Very different experience to what I have seen on the Vedder and I find it puzzling as to why it should be so different but it is gratifying to see.
Of course, as others have stated, it is sometimes hard to avoid foul hooking them when they have been stacked in the river.
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fishseeker - the fishing behaviour that I've noticed on the Squamish vs. the Mamquam has been very different. The Squamish has always been a more pleasant river to fish, and has a high number of fly fishers who need a bit more room to fish. The gear guys have been good too. The Mamquam, on the other hand, has been full of people with "Canadian Tire" specials with no waders - so they don't get into the water to release their fish. I for one am glad the Mamquam has been closed to fishing, as the fish stacked in there are almost all spawners and dinner plate specials.
I fished the Squamish yesterday and had a great morning with the switch rod. But at around noon a guy came in and just moved in between myself and another fly fisher below me. I warned him that he was too close and I didn't want to hit him when I executed my snap T or circle C. The response? "This is nothing - you should see what it's like on the Fraser". He proceeded to set-up a float with a bouncing betty and 7 foot leader. All I can say is I didn't see any people like him the whole season until yesterday - the first day the Mamquam closed.
Things actually worked out OK. I did almost hit him as his rod was right over my line when I needed to begin my cast. He did move down and I told him to ask the angler down stream if it was OK. He did time his cast with mine. He also managed to hook and land a very ripe dark doe, which he killed. I didn't see him hook another fish. In that time, I hooked and released several bright fish on the fly on a full floating line in 1 - 2 feet of water. I then called it quits just after noon.
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TimL, thanks for your report. I'm heading there next weekend for a camping trip. I've never been there, let alone fished there. I guess I'll bring the fly rod along and check out the beach scene. I'll arm the wife with a spinning rod. So, is low tide the time to go?
I went on an early morning low and there were many schools of fish swimming in very shallow water just a few meters from shore but few would take a lure. There was more action as the tide came in later in the morning...do watch out for the seals too- they can come quite close to shore within casting distance. Also check out the evening outgoing tides as well...one of the local fly guys told me he had success fishing the evening before, which I recall was a slow outgoing tide.
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Was out there last week and fished the mam below the train bridge for a bit. Had a newbie with us so we had to teach him the basics and the difference between how a snagged fish fought and a legit hook fought. He picked it up quickly and released his snags cautiously. Needless to say we left that area and moved below the confluence for some fresher fish. I'm happy the mam closed because it was dangerously low and I happened to foul hooked a beautiful Chinook that luckily broke off my line. Pink season is a great time to teach the proper ethics to newbies. Unfortunately when the Vedder has its run it becomes a way different environment.
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fishseeker - the fishing behaviour that I've noticed on the Squamish vs. the Mamquam has been very different. The Squamish has always been a more pleasant river to fish, and has a high number of fly fishers who need a bit more room to fish. The gear guys have been good too. The Mamquam, on the other hand, has been full of people with "Canadian Tire" specials with no waders - so they don't get into the water to release their fish. I for one am glad the Mamquam has been closed to fishing, as the fish stacked in there are almost all spawners and dinner plate specials.
I fished the Squamish yesterday and had a great morning with the switch rod. But at around noon a guy came in and just moved in between myself and another fly fisher below me. I warned him that he was too close and I didn't want to hit him when I executed my snap T or circle C. The response? "This is nothing - you should see what it's like on the Fraser". He proceeded to set-up a float with a bouncing betty and 7 foot leader. All I can say is I didn't see any people like him the whole season until yesterday - the first day the Mamquam closed.
Things actually worked out OK. I did almost hit him as his rod was right over my line when I needed to begin my cast. He did move down and I told him to ask the angler down stream if it was OK. He did time his cast with mine. He also managed to hook and land a very ripe dark doe, which he killed. I didn't see him hook another fish. In that time, I hooked and released several bright fish on the fly on a full floating line in 1 - 2 feet of water. I then called it quits just after noon.
Thats interesting. I was out there yesterday too and I was pleasantly surprised at the lack of crowding where me and a friend of mine were fishing. Heaven knows why anybody would bother using a bouncing betty technique on that river - I imagine they would see other techniques doing so much better they would give up on that approach pretty fast.
I have only fished the catch and release sections of the Mamquam when it was open. Never really bother with below that CN bridge because it attracts too many crowds - maybe that is just the most obvious and easiest spot to get to. When I was starting out there that is where I went simply because i didn't know my way around.
I would think anybody coming to the Squamish would learn a little better how it should be done. The Vedder has got to be the worst place for newbies and I can honestly say that from experience - when I was starting out fishing here there were so many people telling me I had to get it down as deep as possible or that long leaders were crucial for catching chums - I knew that had to be wrong at the time but it really is an unfortunate place to learn the ropes.
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Thats interesting. I was out there yesterday too and I was pleasantly surprised at the lack of crowding where me and a friend of mine were fishing.
I was there on Sunday too, as well as the previous weekend. This last weekend was so much better for crowds though. I was able to find a spot to fly fish without being shoulder to shoulder. But once I started hooking into fish, the group of people start moving closer and closer.....but it was still enjoyable at least.