Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: RossP on December 16, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
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I lent my Centre Pin reel to a friend for a trip he was taking about a month ago. The reel was in pristine condition, not a scratch on it, I had only used it twice. He picked the reel up on a Thursday and was to return it the next Wednesday. Well Wednesday came and went with no reel. I texted him and he was now coming back the next day, no reel. For the next three weekends I arranged to pick up the reel in Abbotsford were he lives, I live in Langley. Each weekend I would drive out to Abbotsford and try to get my reel with no luck. This past Sunday once again everything was arranged, I even got a text picture of the reel at 11:14, at 11:16 I phone and was told "I'll phone you right back" and he hung up. You guessed it he didn't phone back until 9 hours later, then I was told the reel would be dropped off on Monday, another excuse. Today the reel was dropped off, looks like it was dropped into gravel, nicks out of the rim, the reel is dirty. I have learned my lesson, I will never lend out any of my gear again. I will not mention this persons name, they know who they are, I write this to vent and to warn others that no matter how you might think you know someone, beware. After almost 58 years on this planet I am now turning into hoarder of my gear because of this, I used to think the best of everyone, now I don't, it is a sad day.
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How can you describe that person as your friend after this experience is a real mystery to me. Obviously he doesn't feel the same about you since didn't offer apology ( the least he could do) nor compensation for the damage. Perhaps I'm hot headed ,but if it happened to me he would be of my list of people who I recognize on the street.
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I don't lend much of anything out any more. Way too many times my stuff has been abused or not returned on time. Even by my closest friends... Live and learn.
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Should have said ex-friend.
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Someone told me years ago "If you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it".
Unfortunately your reel was likely worth far more than $20. Don't let this D-bag's actions affect your good will towards others. For every one like him there are ten that would have done things right.
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No..no..no..no.no. Don't lend expensive gear to friends unless they know the value of it to you. It's just not worth it. It will return 99 per cent in a different condition. Just not worth it.
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I have a few FRIENDS and many acquaintances.
The people I call FRIENDS can always borrow any of my stuff. They will always keep their word and compensate me for any damage or loss, without me having to ask. They are people I have been through thick and thin with.
Those who don't fall in the above category can't get to borrow my higher end equipment, boat or truck. They (acquaintances and "incidental fishing buddies") might be able to get a 'loaner' fishing setup which I don't really care much about. That's what loaners are for.
Ross, sorry to hear somebody you considered a friend took advantage of you. That really sucks.
I hope you crossed him off your Christmas list.
Edited to add: It sounds to me your "friend" ended up lending your reel to someone else and was just covering up.
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Someone told me years ago "If you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it".
:) :)
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The way I see it, if someone needs to borrow fishing gear off you, chances are they're either non avid fishermen or don't take the sport seriously. Of course there are exceptions, but I personally would never borrow anything from anyone unless it's from family... under extreme emergency circumstances.
There's two things I would never lend out....my car and my fishing gear.
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I have 2 friends that I fish with from time to time, 1 friend is totally passionate about gear and fishing as much I am so he knows my expectations and I would not hesitate to lend him any of my custom gear. My other friend who's closer to me as best friend is passionate about fishing but brutal on gear, I have sold him nearly new baitcasting reels at family discount and he's demolished each one. I do lend him gear when I fish with him as he likes some of my setups better than his but at least I can see how he treats it and I'm getting it back at the end of the outting. Other than that, I would never lend out gear to anyone else not even my brother.
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Have you asked this person to compensate you for the damage or buy you a new reel? Small claims court may be one possible way to deal with this kind of problem.
I had a friend like this when I was young. I lent him my bike so he could do is paper route. It took forever to get the bike back and when it cam back it had no brakes - literally no brakes. A few years later I lent him $100 - which was 40 years ago so that was real money then, because he couldn't make his rent. Much the same story. I found out later that every 2 weeks he cashed his paycheque went to a bar or club and bought drinks for every person he met - until he was pretty much out of cash. Few years later it was clear he had a mental illness (schizophrenia, it ran in the family) compounded by alcoholism. We stopped being friends and the remainder of his short life (overdose) was a mess. I feel bad for him today but some people are lost souls.
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Hey Ross buddy, can I borrow your boat this weekend? ;)
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I broke an ex friends Sage Spey rod. I was freaking out. I ran down the Vedder full speed in high water to get the floating 3/4 of the rod. I felt sick to my stomach, I couldn't figure out how to tell him about it. I finally got the nerve and called him up and told him. He started to laugh at me, and my nervousness. He said, don't worry about it, under warranty.
Cost me $110 to get it back in pristine condition.
He later gave me the rod.
We are ex-friends for other reasons.
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I have a few FRIENDS and many acquaintances.
The people I call FRIENDS can always borrow any of my stuff. They will always keep their word and compensate me for any damage or loss, without me having to ask. They are people I have been through thick and thin with.
Those who don't fall in the above category can't get to borrow my higher end equipment, boat or truck. They (acquaintances and "incidental fishing buddies") might be able to get a 'loaner' fishing setup which I don't really care much about. That's what loaners are for.
Ross, sorry to hear somebody you considered a friend took advantage of you. That really sucks.
I hope you crossed him off your Christmas list.
Edited to add: It sounds to me your "friend" ended up lending your reel to someone else and was just covering up.
I think you are right Milo, I was looking at his past posts and he was looking for a reel for his cousin. Too bad I trusted him, no more though.
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I lost a fair share of my gears by lending it to friends. The last time I lended a $400 LW reel and rod to a friend, he lost it but replaced with another combo. The only problem was the new set he gave me only worth $180. :-\
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If my dad had a penny for every fishing rod I broke when I was young he would have retired by now. Lol. Fishing is a past time meant to unwind, relax, and excite to take away from our everyday responsibility in this crazy world we live in. A hobby, to share with friends and family who wish to participate in the escape for the soul. A smashed reel or a broken rod as we all know is an inevitable part. For one who hesitates to disclose or the one who hasn't the means to replace, to the one who discloses and replaces. Understanding whatever the outcome and enjoying the next drift you make together is what matters. Who cares about a price tag. Hell let's grab a stick and tie some line to it at least we are fishing.
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A buddy was having trouble managing his new bait caster while fishing springs on a west coast river. After multiple tangles he wanted to use his fly rod so I loaned him a small cheap fly reel I had along. The fishing was tremendous and after perhaps a dozen big Springs the little reel was thrashed. He kindly bought me a new reel and it is one of my best.
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I lost a fair share of my gears by lending it to friends. The last time I lended a $400 LW reel and rod to a friend, he lost it but replaced with another combo. The only problem was the new set he gave me only worth $180. :-\
I wouldnt have accepted that.
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Over the years I have upgraded gear, the old gear goes to the lending and spare pile. The new gear is mine and never gets lent out.
Although, I will gladly let somone try the quality gear while fishing together, so they can appreciate the diference in quality.
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The only thing I lend out belongs to my tom cat. He always brings it back.
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Over the years I have upgraded gear, the old gear goes to the lending and spare pile. The new gear is mine and never gets lent out.
Although, I will gladly let somone try the quality gear while fishing together, so they can appreciate the diference in quality.
I do the same thing, I've got an 'A' set and a 'B' set. It's good to bring along a friend to introduce them to the sport and lend out your older gear without having to worry about them causing damage or stealing it. (I'd still prefer to be able to trust them not to intentionally mistreat it!)
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I do not lend out hunting gear, fishing gear, boats, vehicles or anything with a value of more than fifty bucks. ;D You are better off to loan stuff to your enemies, at least you know in advance that they will screw you.
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I do not lend out hunting gear, fishing gear, boats, vehicles or anything with a value of more than fifty bucks. ;D You are better off to loan stuff to your enemies, at least you know in advance that they will screw you.
Says the man who always has a spare pontoon boat or fly rod in any weight for whoever happens to be without one when visiting the area. C'mon Mel, we all know you are a softie, stop pretending. ;D
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A friend of mine lended a spey reel to his "old buddy" we will call "richard" that i realy didnt like...
To make sure he brought it back he made "Richard" give him something of the same value so when he returns the reel he gives the item back.
He ended up lending my friend a pontoon which he didnt use.
He got the reel back all scratched up with an excuse "i hooked a fish i tripped and the reel landed on the rocks, btw it sucks id return it"
But by the looks of it he didnt drop it was in such bad condition it looked like he accidentaly ran over it with his car.
He gave the pontoon two days later as "richard" forgot his trailer.
The next day when he showed up my friend said "here it is" it had a huge hole in it and "richard" said
"wtf did you do?" "well i got attacked by a bear,btw it sucks id return it"
Never heard from "richard" again..
Karma, i always laugh when i think about this story.
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That made no sense.
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Sounds like 2 friends wrecking each others gear .
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Sounds like 2 friends wrecking each others gear .
Pretty much...
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I changed it alittle because it looks like some of you misunderstood it .
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Says the man who always has a spare pontoon boat or fly rod in any weight for whoever happens to be without one when visiting the area. C'mon Mel, we all know you are a softie, stop pretending. ;D
That is at the Drift, I always know where they sleep. Rob gets most of the loans, a better borrower you could not find. Also he has the same taste in beers as me, hoppy and dark. ;D Jamie from up in Chilliwack is also a good guy to loan a boat to. Most others get the rejection, unless they are in the early twenties and wearing a bikini.
Heck I will even lend you a boat Milo if you are in a bikini, see I can make exceptions to most rules. ;D ;D