Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Archer on September 29, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
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Last year I had a blast on the stave, but I cannot recall when I went in the fall? If I go next week will the Chum and the odd Ho be running yet? I gotta get me some Bent Rods jigs too, there deadly!!!
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Only one thing to do. Get out there and slay them. Then report back. Get the stampede going. They'd be fresh ones if they're there.
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They have arrived, not in the huge numbers, but nice to get out with almost no one in sight and majority of the fish are chrome or near chrome. Give it a try and report back. Good Luck out there.
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Will do guys. I have next week off, I will head over there and I will be sure to do a report back on this thread.
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They are in the system. Tight line
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I've seen nothing.
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Good numbers by oct. 15th,
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Thanks guys. I found a nice area on the opposite side from the Hydro dam. For those who don't know, Hydro construction blocks parking on the Dam side so you have to walk a good 20min in, and some of that is via a muddy trail cause they politely kick ya off the road at the entrance gate.
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What's the parking situation like this year?
Has it changed any on either side of the river since last year when most everything was shut down?
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If you park on the Hydro side, taking the road on the East side of the bridge, you park WAY back and walk to the manned gate where they ask you to hike the rest off road. If you take the road on the West side of the bridge where the gas station is, you follow till its no parking permitted on the road and park road side where its legal and 5min walk to the river entry.
Once they are running, which is now or soon, your odds are as good each side but the Hydro side has a pool you can float roe for ho's if your arms get sore from wrestling Chum all day.
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I made it down to the West side of the river. Lots of anglers, but not overcrowded. Saw a steady amount of Chum rising, and watched about 15 get hooked by others. Sadly I was skunked. Beautiful day though, and lost zero gear so I was satisfied.
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About 30% of the anglers were bottom bouncing with a little wool on the hook. I thought that was overkill for the stave, but after 3 hours that I was there, all three of them slayed a chum, and I left with out even a bite!! I short floated pink jigs, green jigs, and a red/pink corkie with deep red wool.
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saw no sign of chum today on the west side at low tide other than one i lost
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I was big on short floating forrest green wool on that river. Couldn't believe the teeth on some of them dog's though. :o
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Really leadbelly? I was there from 10 to 1 west side closer to the dam. and saw many jump and many fish on, though the guys hooking the most had waders and were casting into a honey hole and half the catches were snagged/foul hooked...
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Really lol. I was lower down looking for chum moving in on the tide~
saw nothing showing or being caught and didnt stick around long enough to see what came in later.
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I was on the west side on Monday evening, and my observations are in line with leadbelly's. Saw just a handful of fish show themselves as the tide came in, and had no action myself. I was also fishing in the lower reaches away from the dam.
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We were in there today with the boat for an hour none to be had saw a couple of jumpers but no real numbers , My guess is another week or more . I hear the mouth of Vedder is good right now
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Well it's become a gong show of flossers, I went setup my jig float setup, and caught one on the first cast. I had 3 flossers coming over and inspecting my setup instantly. I tried to educate them that flossing technically legal, but frowned upon by avid fishermen. In fact 2 of the 3 guys that came up to me immediately switched to a float setup.
Parking is already mental, there isn't much room to fish, and watch your waders from idiots who are reeling in their snagging equipment across your lap.
I don't think the flossers liked me around, every time they snagged a fish I would walk up and tell them they need to release. They all abliged without hesitation, I even explained to one guy he can't drag fish up on the rocks if he plans on releasing it.
I didn't go there planning on getting on my soap box but I was glad to help the group of people around me understand what is cool, and what's not. I think the guys who switched to jigs and floats were happy I helped them understand.
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Yeah, people were worried about the bottom bouncers going to the Vedder. Turns out they headed to the Stave instead.
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lots of long liners rippers and dregers. Ive seen people floss there in December lol.
some areas where the water is deeper and the chum are traveling and not on redds is the ticket for avoiding allot of the flossers, though you still get entertained pretty good. :o
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Yeah, people were worried about the bottom bouncers going to the Vedder. Turns out they headed to the Stave instead.
No, they are on all the tribs. It's going to be a very fun year.
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Ive heard the staves really good for chums I wanna try fly fishin for them but so hard to get there and I don't even know how to get there lol
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Ive heard the staves really good for chums I wanna try fly fishin for them but so hard to get there and I don't even know how to get there lol
Too many idiots for fly fishing.
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Too many idiots for fly fishing.
^ if you can find some frog water it should work.
But agreed, have to watch the back cast on every false cast. Not because of bushes, but because people walk behind when your mid cast....
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Thanks Flytech; if we all took a little time and showed a little patience the way you did, our rivers would be a better place to fish. I have lost count of the number of times that I have found apparent snaggers and flossers to be ordinary decent folks who have learned by watching and imitating others and are happy/grateful to receive help. Sure, not every time, and you will find asshats in all walks of life, but usually its a minority.
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Was there today from first light to 12pm. Landed 1 large doe and one strong buck. Bent Rod's Purplator Jigs, purple/pink worked best. Guy beside me landed at least 8 by the time I left. Saw a couple super chromes landed due to the incoming tide. Lots in there now, just depends if their biting or not.
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thanks for the report. should be far better than that by now though.
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`the toilet bowl`at the Hydro Park has been a favourite with fly anglers for years. I don`t know if it`s accessible with the park closed till 2017. If it is get there early before the crowds show up and put your name on a rock before you leave.
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Fly fishing the bowl is fine, just be very early, as in flashlight early, and watch out for folks behind you. Then move down river for chum and start to get really sloppy with your cast and you are given plenty of room to fish!
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I think the chum chasers who aren't catching fish are either going to the wrong locations, or are using tht wrong methods. Everytime I go there for a short period (1-1.5 hours), I end up with 5-8 hookups.
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I think the chum chasers who aren't catching fish are either going to the wrong locations, or are using tht wrong methods. Everytime I go there for a short period (1-1.5 hours), I end up with 5-8 hookups.
I was in a good spot today, 5-8 an hour is not unheard of at Stave, but not today.
I had fun, battled a couple, its all good :)
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I was in a good spot today, 5-8 an hour is not unheard of at Stave, but not today.
I had fun, battled a couple, its all good :)
Did you move around to different areas? Did you switch up presentation? Was the tide too high? This is prime time for the chum dog millionaires.
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I think the chum chasers who aren't catching fish are either going to the wrong locations, or are using tht wrong methods. Everytime I go there for a short period (1-1.5 hours), I end up with 5-8 hookups.
Agreed,
there should have been a big push of chum Oct. 15th.
If you watch browns bay reports the fishing lights up every year Oct. 6-8th then dies off for a bit.
Those fish get to the Fraser in 5 days and then up to the Stave 2 days later.
Same thing happens Oct. 30th... Browns bay lights up around the 22nd and the Stave lights up on the 30th with more fresh fish.
Lol.
not joking
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Pretty big gong show all along 287, but huge amount of chum rolling through.
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Lots of chum rolling but very few actually biting. Loads of bottom bouncers seem to make the fish go lock jaw. Pretty slow day overall compared to previous years and a lot more people. Gong show everywhere on the river.
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I fished Stave on Thursday. First light to about 9ish had only two chum hooked and lots rolling around lockjawed. Got one nice coho and was hopeful for a nice day. The very few people I saw in the morning looked decent anglers, but then ........around 9 to 10am the whole area where we were got absolutely swarmed with people! It was a crazy gong show - shore lined all the way with 20ft distance in between at best. I can tolerate crowded conditions BUT every 8 out 10 people were bottom bouncing 3oz betties and 6-12ft leaders, everybody ripping and tearing all the time, fish dragged for their tail and booted back each and every time! I kid you not there was at one point 40 to 50 snaggers just in foreseeable distance, bonking yellow/black spawned chum and even a few trout! It was a very sickening thing to see, needless to say the bite went off and at about 11am we left the river. On the side of the road was a gongshow too, never seen so many cars on that river, there was cars parked with emergency lights ON the road waiting for someone to leave.
I only fished Stave the last couple of years and always enjoyed it, but with exception of a handfull of individuals the moral on the river was decent. I obvously underestimated the effect of the sockeye season on the smaller systems, it seems totally out of control. I phoned RAPP to report of retained overlimits with no result, tried to stop one guy from stepping over the heads of fish so he can retrieve his hook before booting them back - he said he dont care, also tried to "educate" an older couple of 75 yearold people, but of course they didn't know English.
I don't think someone can convince me you can entice fish to bite when you have 3oz lead balls flying every 15 feet in the water. I think I'm done with this river for this season - risking my car being towed to just watch snagger's show filling tots full of nasty decomposed chum... I'm not sure it's worth it - I'm pissed and fuming because I reallly liked that fishery in the past but its never been anything like this.
/rant over
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Agreed
I've lived on Wilson rd for 20 years and every year it seems to get worse, the only option is to go by boat to try and get away from the gong show. Having said that I've read the same thing on almost every river or slough on this website. A few years back I witnessed fights break out on the chehalis one guy took a hook in the back of the neck from a guy casting next to him. How much closer can you possibly stand !!!!!!
From the lack of respect for the guy next to you, to the fish themselves being kicked and snagged is enough to turn your stomach. Unfortunately I cant see it changing unless more CO's are hired but that is unlikely to happen.
Not sure how much longer I'll be fishing for salmon I'd be better off going to the interior and enjoy the peace and quiet on some remote lake
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was madness today as well, pretty amazing how many come out lol
still not alot of chum around, and even the ones down by the mouth coming in looked dark already
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First light and a fair amount of people trying to fish for coho. A buddy of my friend caught a nice coho in the pool around late morning.
Down river was a bit of a gong show, people trying to bottom bounce with BB's and float flossing. Watched a lady try to squeeze in between two other guys, the one guy tried to be polite the whole thing and asked her to not fish about 3 feet away from him cause it's dangerous and there is plenty more room else where, things went pretty bad quickly and the police got called. But seriously... if you make it down in the late afternoon, try to squeeze in between people who already have a spot and are asked to leave but either ignore or pretend you don't understand what they are saying... that is just asking for it.
As for fishing... my arms still sore from all the chums. ;)
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`the toilet bowl`at the Hydro Park has been a favourite with fly anglers for years. I don`t know if it`s accessible with the park closed till 2017. If it is get there early before the crowds show up and put your name on a rock before you leave.
That was one favorite place to fly fish and spincast lures for coho many moons ago.
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Was at the Stave for a couple hours this morning. Fish everywhere! Landed 10 and lost about 5-6.
Left just as the gong show was starting about 1100.
May not be a difficult fishery but it sure is fun!!
First fish on my new Lamiglass rod and Calcutta 200D reel!
My first Chum!
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r636/DHooper71/Chum1_zpsdeeae080.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/DHooper71/media/Chum1_zpsdeeae080.jpg.html)
(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r636/DHooper71/Chum2_zps08badd38.jpg) (http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/DHooper71/media/Chum2_zps08badd38.jpg.html)
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Nice! They are a lot of fun to catch and I wish people would treat them with more respect. Thanks for posting the pics!
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Lots of chum rolling but very few actually biting. Loads of bottom bouncers seem to make the fish go lock jaw. Pretty slow day overall compared to previous years and a lot more people. Gong show everywhere on the river.
Again, you must be in the wrong spot, or using the wrong method.
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Again, you must be in the wrong spot, or using the wrong method.
I was short floating purple/pink bent rods jigs. 15" leader, 25 gram float. Can I email you? I have the spot I went to marked on google maps and could send that to you and maybe you could tell me if that spot is worth fishing. Maybe the bulk of the run is still on the way, this rain should help.
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For anyone fishing the Stave tomorrow please be careful, a guy from BC hydro came down to warn us about the dam releasing water and that the river will rise over a foot and a half in under a half an hour. Not sure but me and my buddy saw what looked like one guy trying to figure out a way back crossing the small islands, the areas that used to be only knee deep with slow current had now turned to 3+ with fast heavy current.
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I was short floating purple/pink bent rods jigs. 15" leader, 25 gram float. Can I email you? I have the spot I went to marked on google maps and could send that to you and maybe you could tell me if that spot is worth fishing. Maybe the bulk of the run is still on the way, this rain should help.
Then it was either location or the tide was too high. Sure send me the map.
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I was out there in my boat yesterday on the Stave.
I had just installed a Mac's River Runner as I have a prop and have run aground there a few times.
River is so high that I would have to drag my boat up on 1 of the few islands that is not submerged before the motor would lift.
Really was not a good test for the River Runner.
Water is dark and we had 1 old timer slip off an edge that gave way and into the drink screaming that he couldn't swim.:-[
Someone managed to grab him as he went by and pull him into shore. :D
Thankfully no harm done, he warmed up a bit with some donated coffee and a fire and was back at it in about 45 minutes.
Needless to say, with the high water and the force of, it is pretty dangerous.
I would perhaps suggest if you are wading in and cannot see bottom wear your PFD!
Good Luck out there.