Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum

Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on September 03, 2014, 02:48:25 PM

Title: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 03, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/140903-2_zpsd0e389cc.jpg)

This fall salmon fishery takes place between late August and early December on the Chilliwack Vedder River. Like the past few seasons, I usually like to get this information up and provide ongoing updates so those who are new to the fishery can have a chance to enjoy what this river has to offer by learning proper techniques, staying informed on regulations and etiquettes.


Fish species

There are three salmon species that anglers can target and retain in fall 2014.



Fishing regulations

The salmon regulations of Chilliwack River, including the daily quota of each species, can be found in Region 2 of the Freshwater salmon supplement (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm).

You can only keep FOUR salmon in total per day, which means if you keep four hatchery coho salmon, you can't keep anymore chinook or chum salmon. This is the updated regulations as of September 1st 2014. Regulations may change during the season so please make sure you double check the regulations page before heading out.


Cultus Lake sockeye salmon alert

Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are endangered and usually enter the Chilliwack River in late summer so their run time overlaps with other fall salmon species. All sockeye salmon caught in the Chilliwack River are required to be released carefully. Please be aware of the difference between a sockeye salmon and the other salmon species. Some Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are also missing their adipose fin so please don't confuse them with hatchery-marked coho salmon. Read about it some more... (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/files/2012-08-24-adipose-clipped-sockeye-alert.pdf)


How to float fish more effectively for coho salmon?

To effectively catch salmon on the Vedder by float fishing, you want to keep your offerings in the strike zone. New anglers have a tendency to mistaken the strike zone as the depth where the fish are sitting. It is not. Salmonids look up and strike at the offerings above them. The fish position themselves near the bottom, so the strike zone is usually 1 or 2 feet above the river bed. This technique does not only apply to the Chilliwack River, but also other Lower Fraser River tributaries.

Gear setup

Rod:9' to 10'6" baitcasting or centerpin rod, rated between 8 and 20lb
Reel:Small baitcasting reels or centerpin reels
Main line:12 to 15lb test
Leader:6 to 10lb test
Hook:Size 4 to 2/0

The diagrams below illustrate the correct and not-so-correct ways of float depth adjustment.

Excessive length of leader

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_2.gif)

For some reason, many people believe a longer leader would produce more fish, quite the opposite! Your hook will always travel faster than your weight in a river. By using a long leader, your hook and bait are lifted up higher from the river bed, away from the strike zone.

Excessive float depth

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_3.gif)

Some choose to adjust their float depth so the weight is "tapping" or sitting on the bottom. The weight will usually anchor itself to the river bed, while the float drifts slowly or becomes stationary. Two things will result from this setup:


My way of float adjustment, but not necessarily the ONLY way

(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/050918_1.gif)

So far this has worked very well by producing about a dozen or more coho each season on the Vedder River without losing any hook, weight or line. I usually like to keep my leader length (the line between the hook and weight) around 1.5 feet in length. Judging the depth by looking at the gradient of the river bank and the water, I adjust my float depth (the length from the float to the hook) so that it is about 1 to 2 feet shorter than the actual depth. When this is drifted, the bait will lift a few inches higher, remaining in the strike zone. When the float dips under the water, there is no hesitation as I don't need to question whether it is a snag or a fish. The hook is usually set hard and most of the time the fight is on.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2012/120928-1.jpg)

Some other small adjustments

I find these adjustments would connect me into more fish in the past.

Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 03, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
Salmon identification

Because there are both species that you can keep and cannot keep returning to the Chilliwack River, it is important to know how to identify all five species of salmon.

Chinook salmon
Chinook salmon have small spots across their back and small spots across their entire tail. Their gum is black and the edge of their jaw is white. Adult chinook salmon are defined as over 62cm and are required to be recorded on your licence when you choose to keep one.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook01.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook02.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook03.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook04.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook04.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook05.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook05.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chinook06.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chinook06.jpg)
Adult chinook (over 62cm)Adult chinook (over 62cm)Jack chinook (under 62cm)Jack chinook (under 62cm)Black gum with white
jaw edge		Small spots across both
upper and lower parts of tail

Coho salmon
Coho salmon have small spots across their back and spots on the top portion of their tail. Their gum is white. Two groups of coho salmon are found in the Chilliwack River - Wild and hatchery fish. Hatchery fish, which anglers are allowed to keep, do not have an adipose fin and a healed scar can be found at where the adipose fin is missing. This fin is clipped at the hatchery when they are at their juvenile stage prior to being released. If an adipose fin is present, then it is a wild fish, which is required to be released with care.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho01.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho02.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho03.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho04.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho04.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho05.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho05.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_coho06.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/coho06.jpg)
Wild adult coho
(with adipose fin)		Hatchery adult coho
(without adipose fin)		Hatchery jack coho
(without adipose fin)		Absence of adipose fin
with healed scar on
hatchery coho		White gumSmall spots on top portion
of tail

Pink salmon
Pink salmon have large thumb-print type spots across their body and large spots across their tail. Males have a distinct humped back and their body colouration are typically dark green in the Chilliwack River.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_pink01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/pink01.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_pink02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/pink02.jpg)
Male pink salmon with
hump back		Large spots across tail

Chum salmon
Chum salmon have two distinct characteristics, which are colourful stripes across their body and large teeth found on males.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum01.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum02.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_chum03.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/chum03.jpg)
Female chum salmonMale chum salmon with
teeth		Striped back

Sockeye salmon
Althought sockeye salmon cannot be retained on the Chilliwack River, it is important to know what they look like so you do not kill one by accident. Sockeye salmon that are returning to Cultus Lake are endangered and their recovery depends on your assistance. Sockeye salmon are typically spotless and silver until they are near the spawning ground. At spawning stage, their body colouration is red.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_sockeye01.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/sockeye01.jpg)(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/th_sockeye02.jpg) (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/forum/sockeye02.jpg)
adult sockeye in
spawning colour		adult sockeye prior to
spawning stage


Some thoughts on fishing locations

The Chilliwack Vedder River is long. Some say it gets crowded, but only at certain spots. To have a good experience, it's best to avoid the busy spots. The busy spots are usually the visible ones that have easy access. These include Keith Wilson Bridge, railway bridge, Lickman Road, Peach Road, Vedder Crossing, Tamahi, Alison Pool, Limit Hole. By going to a spot where less people are fishing, the likelihood of you hooking into some quality fish is bigger since the fish are not spooked. Surprisingly, you can usually find a nice quiet spot by taking a very short walk from one of these busy spots.


Additional readings



Additional video clips



Water condition updates

Throughout the season, members will post up water condition updates so everyone can be alerted if condition is not ideal. Please feel free to post updates in this thread after your trips. We can all benefit from each other's updates and save gasoline and cost of our season. Please do not ask for updates. All requests will be deleted.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on September 03, 2014, 07:09:59 PM
What's the best way to estimate depth of water
By using contours of the land?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 03, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
The steepness of the river bank is a good clue. If water clarity is good, you can roughly judge the depth by looking at it too. You should also constantly adjust your float depth to find the depth that's working well. If the float is bouncing up and down and being dragged as it drifts downstream, then it's wise to shorten up the depth.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Craig on September 05, 2014, 09:48:20 AM
Thanks for posting this, Rod.

I got a 404 error on the first two short float videos.

Craig
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fic on September 06, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Water in the lower river is Gin clear today and quite low.  Interesting to see some sandbars/islands forming in a way that's different from last year.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on September 10, 2014, 04:05:40 PM
Caught a white Chinook, the chinook I caught was 55 cm approx and 10 lbs so
He would be considered a small adult. Fishing is spotty. The rains need to come.
Also spoke to a commercial gill netter on the Fraser , 400 sockeye caught only a couple
Of Chinook and no Coho yet. So they must still
Be on their way.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Robert_G on September 10, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: kevzabob on September 10, 2014, 04:05:40 PM

Also spoke to a commercial gill netter on the Fraser , 400 sockeye caught only a couple
Of Chinook and no Coho yet. So they must still
Be on their way.

The commercial gillnetters aren't going to tell you how many coho and steelhead they catch......
If they report their bycatch and it's too high, they will get tossed out of the river.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: leapin' tyee on September 10, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: kevzabob on September 10, 2014, 04:05:40 PM

Also spoke to a commercial gill netter on the Fraser , 400 sockeye caught only a couple
Of Chinook and no Coho yet. So they must still
Be on their way.


You must be joking .  Good try ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: mvelasco on September 11, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
A little late to report but was on mid and upper river two days ago.saw two springs surface and confused tomato. Water is the lowest I've see  in a long time.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on September 18, 2014, 08:26:08 PM
Was up there over the weekend. Saw a spring and wild coho caught at first light down low. Niot much action otherwise hopefully shapes up nice this weekend and next week.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Drewhill on September 18, 2014, 09:34:27 PM
I was out today and the rain barely made a dent in the levels. Didn't see much action.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 243Pete on September 19, 2014, 01:11:36 AM
Went under the Keith Wilson Bridge today, rather slow but a couple guys caught got some springs and my buddy landed his first wild coho. What was really interesting was the guy who pulled in a large spring doe that had weird infected looking wounds all over the body... kinda like rot.  :o
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jeff on September 19, 2014, 06:54:42 AM
Was mid river on Tuesday and landed really bright hatchery coho about 5lbs and 2 other float downs they are starting to show.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on September 19, 2014, 01:10:49 PM
Rain isn't making much of a difference. Maybe a little bit more color in the water but that's it. Next week's rain should actually start the bigger push of fish because its still pretty poor right now.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: salmonrook on September 19, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: 243Pete on September 19, 2014, 01:11:36 AM
Went under the Keith Wilson Bridge today, rather slow but a couple guys caught got some springs and my buddy landed his first wild coho. What was really interesting was the guy who pulled in a large spring doe that had weird infected looking wounds all over the body... kinda like rot.  :o
  If they were circular,maybe they could be lamprey bites, they are known for attaching themselves to salmon.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 243Pete on September 19, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: salmonrook on September 19, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
  If they were circular,maybe they could be lamprey bites, they are known for attaching themselves to salmon.

A few looked like lamprey wounds but a good portion of the tail had already rotted, and the large fist sized wounds on the top of the back and one on the head had me wondering what the heck... zombie fish!  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fisherama on September 19, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: 243Pete on September 19, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
A few looked like lamprey wounds but a good portion of the tail had already rotted, and the large fist sized wounds on the top of the back and one on the head had me wondering what the heck... zombie fish!  ;)

It might have been an old red chinook.  I went for a stroll over Keith Wilson about a week ago and saw one milling around.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: CohoJake on September 19, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: 243Pete on September 19, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
A few looked like lamprey wounds but a good portion of the tail had already rotted, and the large fist sized wounds on the top of the back and one on the head had me wondering what the heck... zombie fish!  ;)
Sounds like seal bites. 
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: colin6101 on September 19, 2014, 11:01:25 PM
It could be seals, there were several around over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on September 23, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
Prepare for a blow out - Looks like heavy rains tonight.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on September 23, 2014, 01:02:27 PM
Quote from: Tenz85 on September 23, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
Prepare for a blow out - Looks like heavy rains tonight.

River might color up but the ground is so dry because of the insanely dry September it will absorb a lot of the rain so its unlikely the levels will go over 2m or so even with the heavy rain.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Drewhill on September 23, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Chehalis_Steel on September 23, 2014, 01:02:27 PM
River might color up but the ground is so dry because of the insanely dry September it will absorb a lot of the rain so its unlikely the levels will go over 2m or so even with the heavy rain.

Not really. If the ground is too dry and the rain is heavy it won't absorb it right away and the levels will spike quickly.

Also heard there's a cougar kicking around mid river.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: skitterbug on September 23, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
How harsh does this cougar look like???? Maybe after a couple of beers????
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on September 23, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
I don't think he was talking about "that" kind of cougar.

I digress.  I'm guessing the river will raise to a pretty high level, but will hopefully drop quickly - pending additional rain.  Could make things interesting...
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on September 23, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
Raining buckets here in Sardis ..
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on September 23, 2014, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: FlyFishin Magician on September 23, 2014, 06:46:51 PM
Could make things interesting...
My guess it won't :) Fish might just be better informed than us.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on September 24, 2014, 09:02:44 AM
A report I just got river is out and full of leaves, on the rise quickly too.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 24, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
Current river condition.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/140924-1_zps40230e60.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on September 24, 2014, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Rodney on September 24, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
Current river condition.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/140924-1_zps40230e60.jpg)
Some are already migrating from the Fraser. :-X
River still mud.

Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on September 24, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
That looks to be a pretty good current. What part of the vedder is
That.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: mvelasco on September 24, 2014, 05:39:38 PM
Quote from: kevzabob on September 24, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
That looks to be a pretty good current. What part of the vedder is
That.
That there is the crossing bridge. River not quite chocolate milk yet I guess...praying for clarity on Friday.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: leapin' tyee on September 24, 2014, 05:44:58 PM
Water level is coming up.  Hopefully is getting better on friday.

Current Value:
1.985M
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 24, 2014, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: kevzabob on September 24, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
That looks to be a pretty good current. What part of the vedder is
That.

Vedder Crossing
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on September 24, 2014, 08:48:23 PM
Boomsticks ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: joshhowat on September 24, 2014, 09:44:06 PM
Fished from 5 to 7 around 2' of vis. 1 ho and 1 bull trout
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: speycaster on September 25, 2014, 10:35:56 AM
Looks like good black wool water. ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 25, 2014, 01:04:33 PM
Visibility was back to normal this morning. In fact, it was quite perfect. River level has dropped a bit since the rise yesterday.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: the_tall_man on September 25, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
Fished the lower in the afternoon, got 1 lost 1 (coho).  Went up to upper and there wasn't a whiff of fish up there.

Vis was very good.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on September 25, 2014, 08:52:34 PM
Sliiped out for the last 15 minutes of fishing time tonight and got my first fish of the fall fishery, a nice 1 pound NPM. Good to see the Maple Leaf DNE going down. Water perfect.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on September 25, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Hm. What's an NPM?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 25, 2014, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: dobrolub on September 25, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
Hm. What's an NPM?

Northern PikeMinnow
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 26, 2014, 09:48:52 AM
Water remains nice and clear this morning. It is raining heavily now so may change later in the day.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on September 26, 2014, 07:28:58 PM
Went out this morning, heavy rain, clear water.
Some fish moving up, however very slow. Any idea as where
To find slower moving water. I guess it all depends
On the depth
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BCfisherman97 on September 26, 2014, 07:30:08 PM
Blown or still good at dark?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rantalot on September 26, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
I left at 4 and it was still very clear.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on September 26, 2014, 08:49:18 PM
Rain now stopped, fishing poor, come to the 2 river cleanups instead. ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: G-Ratt on September 28, 2014, 03:14:46 PM
Heading out first light tomorrow morning, looks like the levels have dropped quite a bit, hopefully it's not too low. Will report back tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on September 29, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
River condition remained unchanged today despite of the rain.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Flytech on September 29, 2014, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Rodney on September 29, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
River condition remained unchanged today despite of the rain.

Rain was not heavy enough in the past 24hrs.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: G-Ratt on September 29, 2014, 11:58:21 PM
Hit several different spots today. Water is extremely clear. Saw several springs rising in some faster water. No luck however despite a whole days worth of effort.

Need another good rain.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 01, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Water level bumped up by a few inches yesterday but on the drop once again. Clarity remains very good.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on October 01, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
Went out yesterday, hooked into 5 and only landed 1 (Male chum). Saw 1 hatchery coho landed and lots of chum with a few springs.

Went out today, hooked 1 and lost it. Saw 2 coho landed but were both wild's. Lots of fish in the area, but quite a bit slower.

SC
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on October 01, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
Saw a couple coho and a few spring. Seems the river is litter with chum in comparison but hopefully the coho flood in soon..
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: rjs on October 01, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: Tenz85 on October 01, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
Saw a couple coho and a few spring. Seems the river is litter with chum in comparison but hopefully the coho flood in soon..


Wow.... seems a bit early for the chum !
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on October 01, 2014, 10:07:34 PM
Have you seen the gill net stats recently?!  ???
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on October 02, 2014, 01:45:44 AM
Quote from: Tenz85 on October 01, 2014, 10:07:34 PM
Have you seen the gill net stats recently?!  ???

Those are mostly going to other systems though. Seems the Chedder gets most of its Chum much later for some reason.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on October 02, 2014, 10:50:59 AM
In hindsight, it appeared the chum were in abundance because they jump a lot.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 02, 2014, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: Tenz85 on October 02, 2014, 10:50:59 AM
In hindsight, it appeared the chum were in abundance because they jump a lot.

Definitely. During the last two outings, there were perhaps a couple of coho salmon showing themselves while chum and chinook salmon could be seen everywhere. The hook-ups suggested that there were a lot more coho in the water than what it appeared. When the run density is not that heavy, coho salmon will stay stealthy and move through the runs quickly when given the opportunity.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on October 02, 2014, 06:45:58 PM
Went out today, hooked 3 but none landed (All chum). Lots of chum and springs in the system, only seen 1 coho all day and it got bonked.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on October 04, 2014, 07:31:00 PM
Went out yesterday and today and not even a single hit. Fish are pretty spooked. Lots stacking in different runs though. Fished a good run way up past Teskey Rock and the only guys that were hooking fish were bottom bouncing...
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on October 04, 2014, 08:09:51 PM
Yeah so tired of the bottom bouncers. Tail hook, back hook, rip their mouth out hooks.
The fish in there are getting hammered.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: riptide on October 05, 2014, 03:01:00 PM
 Two of us  fished first light til 10:00 , lower river , blades and roe , 1 jack landed . Everyone within sight was fishing ethically ...good to see . Water is low but fishable , lots of spots away from the crowds , did not see any other fish hooked or landed . If you are a tide chart watcher and believer that was a good time slot .
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Speyfitter on October 05, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
Went up top today- river IS a DITCH! Low & Clear. Not the lowest I've seen it but damn close. Saw a few smaller Springs hooked, some landed. A few Chums as well. Most coloured up.  Hooked one fish briefly, left shortly thereafter. Fairly busy as to be expected. I can't believe how warm the air temps were. Started about 13 Celsius in the morning. When I was driving home it was 20-21 C. This is early October!!! I remember fishing early October and it being like 1-2 degrees C!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jeff on October 05, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
was out today worked hard to land 1 wild coho. I second the comment about how warm it was I had my son bundled up and it didnt take long for him to start wanting to layer down its crazy.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on October 06, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
Landed an almost-chrome white spring yesterday (released) and then landed a small hatchery coho today. First of the season so pretty stoked!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: NexusGoo on October 06, 2014, 11:20:58 PM
fished this morning and into the early afternoon, as the sun came up the springs started gobbling the goooooo
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 08, 2014, 02:43:30 PM
Well nobody has posted any reports in the last few days. Usually these are the times where guys are catching the most fish. Time to go fishing  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: farky on October 08, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Chilliwack, http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack,  - Here comes the rain. !!!!!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Drewhill on October 08, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
Quote from: farky on October 08, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Chilliwack, http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack,  - Here comes the rain. !!!!!

With that much rain it will be blown or brown pretty quickly. I wouldn't be too excited.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on October 08, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
Went out today and nothing. Water is so low and clear. I'll be gone for 8 days - good luck everyone!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Ezio on October 08, 2014, 11:45:11 PM
went out today for a bit got into 5 springs and 7 chum, and lost one coho, fish are around, but had to work for it, also snapped my clarus center pin rod on a 30lb white today so i'm done till payday
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 10, 2014, 07:58:00 PM
Had my first 2 bites of the season but missed both, the only ones I saw getting fish were the long liners and they were hauling in a lot of large chinooks. ::)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: redtide on October 10, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
went out this morning between canal and vedder bridge. snagged into a huge spring in the dorsal and spent 30 min fighting the tank. caught 3 wild hatch before 11:00 and then it just shut down. is it just me or are the wilds more aggressive on the bite this year. 11 wilds and only 2 hatch so far. was using #3 colorado silver blades through out the day. its only my 3rd day on the vedder so not bad i guess.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 10, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: redtide on October 10, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
went out this morning between canal and vedder bridge. snagged into a huge spring in the dorsal and spent 30 min fighting the tank. caught 3 wild hatch before 11:00 and then it just shut down. is it just me or are the wilds more aggressive on the bite this year. 11 wilds and only 2 hatch so far. was using #3 colorado silver blades through out the day. its only my 3rd day on the vedder so not bad i guess.

What is a "wild hatch"?  LOL.  I assume you meant to say that you caught 3 wild coho?

Was out today as well, and it was a slow coho day (slowest of the year for me so far).  Hooked 2 coho, and landed one wild fish.  Landed one small spring and a chum doe.  All released.  Stratocaster hooked a whack of springs today.  He landed a beauty spring doe, and the roe is curing right now!   :)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on October 10, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: redtide on October 10, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
went out this morning between canal and vedder bridge. snagged into a huge spring in the dorsal and spent 30 min fighting the tank. caught 3 wild hatch before 11:00 and then it just shut down. is it just me or are the wilds more aggressive on the bite this year. 11 wilds and only 2 hatch so far. was using #3 colorado silver blades through out the day. its only my 3rd day on the vedder so not bad i guess.
most of us will break it off instead of 'fighting' it

love those wild hatch
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 11, 2014, 10:10:06 AM
Went out for 30 minutes no bites, only picked up 4 DNE's floating by. Heavy rain now.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 11, 2014, 03:32:25 PM
Anyone know if the water came up from this rain? It wasn't bad at around 10:00am still low and clear when i was there
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fishfinder on October 11, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
The water was up only slightly when I left at 2pm. It didn't rain a whole lot today. At times it was heavy, but that lasted for about 10 minutes. Need way more rain to get the water level to rise. It's sunny now.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DRP79 on October 11, 2014, 05:13:54 PM
Still low and clear despite some heavy rain. I left a little after 2pm and the river hadnt really changed. Its even a bit lower than last weekend I think.

I managed a nice bright hatch coho and also saw some big, bright chinook that were gutted and just left on the side of the river. Looked like they just took the roe and wasted the fish. Either happened yesterday or very early today as they were quite bright despite the seagull damage. Such a waste.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
Pretty common stuff on the Vedder, Don.  While I watched the show at the Vedder Bridge today (44 anglers but I stopped counting as they just kept coming), I saw a gutted salmon, chum I think, drifting downstream.  About 10 of these anglers attempted to "catch" it as it came down ... great fun to watch and as one local disgusted angler suggested, tickets to this would sell big time  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on October 11, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
For wasting the catch or snagging the fish? Havnt review the regs for the specifics as i wouldn't do either but is it considered snagging if the fish is dead?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 11, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
River level hasn't really risen much despite of the heavy rain at times. Water clarity is now better, not gin clear like before. That bit of rain also improved the fishing quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 12, 2014, 12:29:34 PM
Water up a bit this AM good colour no bites but the long liners continue to haul in the chinooks, I do not know for certain what it is but the salmon in the Vedder do not bite like they did at one time, is it all the ripping going on that puts them off the bite?

The positive to all the people on the river means lots of floats that I seem to enjoy hunting for instead of fishing, 15 plucked this morning. ;D

 Maybe that is why I am getting no fish.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bunnta on October 12, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
its been bugging me how light these chinooks take are this year. you can barely notice ur float do anything that u have to start paying attention to the drift instead and real good float balance. If something is irregular or bobbing very slightly....give it a little lift and if u feel resistance, set the hook. I've lost so many roe for being so slow to react, even if its goes down a few second after when u notice something is different. you basically lost your chance as you've been stripped and pulling water. Very frustrating, especially when u keep losing every big spring in the past few trips.  >:(
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on October 12, 2014, 06:47:01 PM
I was having success with getting chums to take my marabou jigs, wool, small spin and glow, Colorado blades and small spoons. Funny first one was a bit colored so I released it hoping for a cleaner one and they just kept getting more and more spawned out. Got too greedy but was fun at least catching for a change.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: mvelasco on October 12, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
Quote from: bunnta on October 12, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
its been bugging me how light these chinooks take are this year. you can barely notice ur float do anything that u have to start paying attention to the drift instead and real good float balance. If something is irregular or bobbing very slightly....give it a little lift and if u feel resistance, set the hook. I've lost so many roe for being so slow to react, even if its goes down a few second after when u notice something is different. you basically lost your chance as you've been stripped and pulling water. Very frustrating, especially when u keep losing every big spring in the past few trips.  >:(
I agree, I have to keep good tension on my diet almost to point of swinging and if I feel a "tap tap" or slightest take I set it.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 12, 2014, 09:26:39 PM
had lots of bites today. There are some chrome springs in there. I was at the end of my drift and started to reel in when there was tension The hook was set and up jumps a huge coho. Was quite the air show it jumped over 6 times. My leader snapped  :'(
Roe was the ticket
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on October 12, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
Went out today towards dusk but it was a quiet night, I was fusing with spoons, i've never fished them outside of trolling only had one coho but he didn't hang around for us to trade pleasantries.
Was hoping for chum :/
 
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BBarley on October 13, 2014, 12:34:08 AM
I went out tonight and found out how ethical it was to floss float with the kids as the stay away pylons......

Lots of fish rollin, but waaaaaaaaay to many people rippin......
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: silver ghost on October 13, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: BBarley on October 13, 2014, 12:34:08 AM
...the kids as the stay away pylons.....

Lol!!! I don't have kids but always wish I had some stay away pylons with me on the vedder.

Maybe I ought to train my dog to patrol a 20 square meter area around me
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: silver ghost on October 13, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
What was the river like this morning guys?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on October 13, 2014, 01:07:01 PM
It should be similar to yesterday. Low and fairly clear.  Not gin clear like it was prior to the rain.  Tomorrow will be a different story.  Heavy rain predicted this evening!!!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dlo on October 13, 2014, 01:13:37 PM
nothing but a bunch of snaggers on this river now
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Sage2106 on October 13, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
Water is nice just need to get rid of the long leaders the guy's fishing 10 feet of float and setting the hook every 2 seconds and the fish might just come out of lock jaw.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rachid on October 13, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
Was at the vedder yesterday ,Peach road , got a nice bright chrome female chum on a colorado blade and a small little hatch coho jack that i let go (just over a pound),  and its so pathetic so see chums and springs been snagged and dragged on rock to be thrown back to river, 90 % of fish were hooked on the belly and tail and people taking over their limits on springs. didn 't see any guy using spinners or roe , just 10 ft leader and a piece of yarn , similar to sockeye frenzy on fraser , i really wish to have a reg that limit the leader length to 3' max.
 
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Sage2106 on October 13, 2014, 03:14:46 PM
They need to do something. The long leaders and float flossing is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: firstlight on October 13, 2014, 05:29:44 PM
Quote from: Sage2106 on October 13, 2014, 03:14:46 PM
They need to do something. The long leaders and float flossing is getting ridiculous.

They needed to do something a long time ago.
What do you expect the Sockeye flossers to do when they hit a different species or system.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Sage2106 on October 13, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
I know what's caused the problem. This year has to be 100 times worse and I was hoping everyone would a had enough after sockeye and the river would be quieter. But I was wrong lol
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FishingKing on October 13, 2014, 06:02:13 PM
All the sockeye flossers have there fishing licenses so now after sockeye has closed down, they move to the smaller systems. It is quite a piss off when you hit the flow and see 100x more bottom bouncers and rippers then the usual. It's going to be a fcked up year. Remember this 4 years from now.

They should really make bottom bouncing legal for sockeye on the Fraser "only" if anything.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on October 13, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
Quote
They need to do something. The long leaders and float flossing is getting ridiculous.
what is float flossing?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on October 13, 2014, 06:43:25 PM
They use a float really high up on there line. So their line drags on the bottom
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rachid on October 13, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
 If your line between the lead and the float is more then  (3'+ this may vary , it depends on the pool depth you are fishing at , adjust the length accordingly ), that means you leader is dragging in the bottom and there is a big chance of snugging fish , your presentation (blades , roe , jigs ) have to be suspended for the fish to raise and grab it down , it is all about tricking the fish to bite , not hook sting the fish from belly or tail or even mouth flossing .                                                             
 Here is my fishing equation when it comes to river fishing,
 Peace of yarn on hook with long leader = 99.99% there is attention on snagging even if the fish is hooked on the mouth  :o  :o !!!!!.
 Blades/jigs /roe (has to be suspended ) = Fair game .
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: typhoon on October 13, 2014, 07:34:15 PM
More like the leader from weight to hook is long, the hook is not weighted (not a jig) and the weight often bounces off the bottom.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: sugartooth on October 13, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
Has anyone else noticed the amount of dead springs laying in the water at the tail end of the runs where these long liners congregate? 
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 13, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
Quote from: sugartooth on October 13, 2014, 08:22:15 PM
Has anyone else noticed the amount of dead springs laying in the water at the tail end of the runs where these long liners congregate?
Saw 6 this morning, while picking up floats along the river. Still blanked, worse year I have ever had, heavy rain now by the way, will be good float hunting tomorrow as the river most likely will be mud.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 13, 2014, 08:53:39 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on October 13, 2014, 08:41:05 PM
Saw 6 this morning, while picking up floats along the river. Still blanked, worse year I have ever had, heavy rain now by the way, will be good float hunting tomorrow as the river most likely will be mud.

The fish are so spooked from all the ripping going on. I see springs spawning in the river way below the hatchery does anyone know the significance of this? Are they supposed to be spawning in the river?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RainbowMan on October 13, 2014, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: TheLostSockeye on October 13, 2014, 08:53:39 PM
The fish are so spooked from all the ripping going on. I see springs spawning in the river way below the hatchery does anyone know the significance of this? Are they supposed to be spawning in the river?

They have built new spawning pools along the river in some areas of the lower and mid river. I saw a few dead springs along one of these pools yesterday in the lower area. I suppose it's normal for springs to spawn wherever they find safe and suitable.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 13, 2014, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: RainbowMan on October 13, 2014, 09:00:25 PM
They have built new spawning pools along the river in some areas of the lower and mid river.

Are you referring to the gravel extraction ponds?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 13, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: clarki on October 13, 2014, 09:08:05 PM
Are you referring to the gravel extraction ponds?

I think he is referring to the side channels they made along the lower river. Like the one along the yarrow side of the river. They actually look very nice.

But ive seen springs spawning in the upper in some rapids. quite a number of them too there had to be over 7 pairs spawning.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RainbowMan on October 13, 2014, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheLostSockeye on October 13, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
I think he is referring to the side channels they made along the lower river.
Yes. I'm talking about those channels.
BTW, is the main coho run in the system already or is it a relatively later run b/c of lack of rain? I have only seen a few hatch cohos landed this season so far. Also, the Albion test net for the last week shows 0 coho and 769 chums! Are they still feeding in the chuck and waiting for cooler water temps or rain?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 13, 2014, 09:47:35 PM
Quote from: RainbowMan on October 13, 2014, 09:21:32 PM
Yes. I'm talking about those channels.
BTW, is the main coho run in the system already or is it a relatively later run b/c of lack of rain? I have only seen a few hatch cohos landed this season so far. Also, the Albion test net for the last week shows 0 coho and 769 chums! Are they still feeding in the chuck and waiting for cooler water temps or rain?
I don't think its over quite yet. Although the hatchery is absolutely loaded with cohos and springs. Even saw a doe steelhead up there.
I think we will get a big push of chum/coho with this rain we are experiencing right now.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 14, 2014, 08:45:24 AM
The river has risen 1.5ft and it is chocolate brown. Save the gas and stay home.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fishfinder on October 14, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
Drove along the canal this morning on my way to do an errand in Chilliwack and the water was high and chocolate brown. Every single bar was under water. Visibility was 6 inches, maybe?

Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BCfisherman97 on October 14, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
Yesterday morning we found lots of springs. Lost a coho second cast on roe, guess I was still asleep as I was out both Saturday and Sunday. Got a sockeye too. Chum are showing up in good numbers. Lots of springs both days and the coho are just hiding away from them. Left right before the rain and checked out the canal just before leaving, some sections were about 2-3 feet deep. Good to see the rain finally.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 14, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
As said earlier river was mud this AM but some still out there. ::)

River coming around near dark.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 14, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Look out here come the chums!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 14, 2014, 07:35:41 PM
Water visibility was around 2ft just before dark.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 243Pete on October 14, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Went early morning, river was a nice murky coffee brown as to be expected. Hooked into a large spring but lost it. Only stayed for a few hours then headed over to the Stave. Had more luck swinging jigs at chum. :D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 15, 2014, 10:43:24 AM
Clarity was sitting at around 2 to 3 feet this morning, colour is still copperish. River level is ok.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rachid on October 15, 2014, 06:27:00 PM
Thanks guys a lot ,  the updates on the vedder river conditions are appreciated .
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jacked55 on October 15, 2014, 07:18:16 PM
X2 on the river updates. Thank you.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: 1son on October 15, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Was there til 6pm clarity was around 2-3ft give or take with a bit of color might be okay tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fishmonk on October 16, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
Epic day on the upper river yesterday.... ;D . brought home my limit with 3 cohos and 1 white springs and lost some too. One of my best fishing days. Only thing that ruined it a bit was 2 guys on the opposite shore just snagging fish continuously with a float and bare hook ripping through the water! they probably cast 50 times per minute...ridiculous!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Flytech on October 16, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: fishmonk on October 16, 2014, 04:02:24 PM
Epic day on the upper river yesterday.... ;D . brought home my limit with 3 cohos and 1 white springs and lost some too. One of my best fishing days. Only thing that ruined it a bit was 2 guys on the opposite shore just snagging fish continuously with a float and bare hook ripping through the water! they probably cast 50 times per minute...ridiculous!


Did anyone say anything?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fishmonk on October 16, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: Flytech on October 16, 2014, 04:49:47 PM

Did anyone say anything?

Yelled over at them and they went up river from us and continued the same activity
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 16, 2014, 07:04:58 PM
Nice conditions this morning with a good number of coho spashing about but all I could get was a mature buck chum and missed 2 takes. Sure a tough year for me as usually by this time I have a few coho. In talking to another old timer he says very poor for him although has a few but it was after a lot of trips.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: steelheaderpin on October 17, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
Anybody have any last light conditions to report ? Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RainbowMan on October 17, 2014, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on October 16, 2014, 07:04:58 PM
Sure a tough year for me as usually by this time I have a few coho.

Could it be that the main run is yet to come in the system??
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 17, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
Clarity was very good at 4:00pm.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: rjs on October 17, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Quote from: Rodney on October 17, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
Clarity was very good at 4:00pm.

and ?  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fisharoo on October 18, 2014, 03:51:34 PM
Did yesterday's rain effect the visibility much? Planning tomorrow for Chilliwack or Chehalis.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on October 18, 2014, 04:16:36 PM
It was looking pretty nice, I don't think it's rained hard enough but I suppose its hard to tell since I am in the tri cities it tends to be gentler weather here. lol. Thinking of heading to stave to have a peak, then checking out the vedder after, I had planned to try chehalis myself too but I always have a tough time finding my way there.

As far as I know the rivers suppose to be quite nice today. My magic 8 ball (buddy who lives out that way) said it looked good. However he doesn't fish, he white waters lol.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 18, 2014, 05:10:16 PM
Water fine fishing not so, I guess I am fishing the wrong areas, maybe neded to migrate to "No Man's Land" as the Master calls it.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: farky on October 18, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
I told you where you should try chris, I got  2 nice hatch bucks there today.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rachid on October 18, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
was at vedder peach road today not a lot of action comparing to last week , good thing is that the big liners that used to haul fish last week , they didn't get a sniff today , and with the river being up give the fish more ways to travel upstream freely and not stack on the small runs to be snugged as usual.the  water clarity in fantastic though.tight line and good luck out there .
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 18, 2014, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: farky on October 18, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
I told you where you should try chris, I got  2 nice hatch bucks there today.
I was just down a bit.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: fisharoo on October 18, 2014, 09:36:33 PM
What's the deal with access on the west side of the river across from on the way? I always see lots of guys over there, driving their trucks along the dyke. They don't appear to be native? but as far as I know it's native land. Is it kosher for non-native guys to fish over the soowahlie area?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on October 19, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Feel free to go back there if u can keep an eye on your truck... I won't park back there ever. Lots of vehicles have been smashed back there not to mention the altercations with the natives... Walk up from the crossing if you wanna fish the native side.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BigFisher on October 19, 2014, 02:17:40 PM
Go ahead and park on the native reserve. On thanksgiving 15 cars got keyed and one got smashed in with a rock. Is a fish really worth all that?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: VAGAbond on October 19, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
Actually it is native reserve on both sides of the river near On The Way.  See the following Google view with BC Government overlay.

(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu192/123VAGAbond/OnTheWay.jpg) (http://s647.photobucket.com/user/123VAGAbond/media/OnTheWay.jpg.html)

There seems to be a bit of a problem with alignment of the Google view with the overlay detail in respect to the river location but you get the ides.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SteelHead[BC] on October 19, 2014, 07:48:36 PM
just a snagg fest back there
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: reeler on October 19, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
I have seen Natives with nets across the river at the Gun Barrel run upstream from OTW store very early am in the past. Black pick up parked on the other side.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on October 19, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
There was a fishing derby I heard at the top of the river, apparently it was just a minefield of snaggers.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BBarley on October 19, 2014, 09:56:58 PM
Baha, I read about the fishing derby this weekend.... The Abbotsford junior hockey team held it at Tamahi ::)
I went to try and find the troll that likes spray painting under Vedder Crossing to see if he would change some wording on their signs......

No dice :(
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: CohoJake on October 20, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
Just got back from the river, raining hard off and on this morning but the river still looks great.  3 feet visibility.  Coho were hard to find, springs are spawning and dying off quickly (it is starting to smell).
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: tumbleweed on October 20, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
How does the river look with all the rain we got today?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 20, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Water clarity was excellent before sunset.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 21, 2014, 09:11:04 AM
Water clarity remains very good this morning despite of last night's rain. The river also dropped slightly overnight.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: islanddude on October 21, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
I would be charging a fee to fish on the reserve. Safe parking, no snagging, limited amount of people, might even have days you could reserve your favorite spot all for your self or a couple of buddies. Be happy they still let you fish there.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on October 21, 2014, 07:54:07 PM
Quote from: islanddude on October 21, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
I would be charging a fee to fish on the reserve. Safe parking, no snagging, limited amount of people, might even have days you could reserve your favorite spot all for your self or a couple of buddies. Be happy they still let you fish there.
Yup, I can see that happening soon enough Wes as Soowahlie has a young, bright and progressive Chief.  Mayhaps add in safe camping ... Good post ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rustynuts on October 22, 2014, 09:23:41 AM
Let's encourage having to pay to go fishing that's a brilliant idea!  :-\ Indians are already blocking access to hunting areas lets start on fishing now too!!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Knnn on October 22, 2014, 01:57:03 PM
The above suggestion was to pay for improved access and security to fish on their land, specifically reserve land.  This is not unreasonable.  I bet the guy living on the north side of the river at the end of Osbourne could do the same thing.  Charging or restricting fishing access within Traditional Territories is another matter and a very complicated issue.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Flytech on October 22, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: Rustynuts on October 22, 2014, 09:23:41 AM
Let's encourage having to pay to go fishing that's a brilliant idea!  :-\ Indians are already blocking access to hunting areas lets start on fishing now too!!


I don't think you have the correct people in mind, Indians are from India.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on October 22, 2014, 06:55:38 PM
Just hope for a high water to push the river back through by the on the way store like it used to.... or we could get an excavator to help with that. imagine if they just did one massive gravel excavation like they do on the rest of the river. Do it right next to where the river takes a turn at on the way and let the next high water do the rest.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2014, 08:08:43 PM
You want machines in the river while salmon are spawning so you can park and fish in a very small area of the river??  really?
Do what the locals do and fish it from the opposite side if you are concerned.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on October 23, 2014, 07:28:00 AM
River way up this AM. Visibility very poor 8-10" in the lower
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Knnn on October 23, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
Quote from: DanL on October 23, 2014, 07:28:00 AM
River way up this AM. Visibility very poor 8-10" in the lower
Phew; derailment avoided. Back on track, thank you for the report Dan.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on October 23, 2014, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Knnn on October 23, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
Phew; derailment avoided. Back on track, thank you for the report Dan.

+1
Should be good tomorrow, not a lot rain forecasted today or for tonight.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: typhoon on October 23, 2014, 01:33:24 PM
Quote from: Chehalis_Steel on October 23, 2014, 12:54:22 PM
+1
Should be good tomorrow, not a lot rain forecasted today or for tonight.
Huh?
Rainfall warning in effect for:
•Fraser Valley - east including Chilliwack
 
Rain, at times heavy, is expected.

A frontal system has brought 46 mm of rain to Hope since last night. An additional 20 to 30 mm of rain is expected before rain eases off this evening with greater amounts near Hope.

http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc40#112050931582938554201410230502
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ALBA CHIEFISH on October 23, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
Can anybody report on the water conditions of the Vedder this afternoon?

Looking to get out tomorrow (friday) morning first thing.

I didnt check the water levels this monday and drove to a very dirty Squamish  :-[

Thanks
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on October 23, 2014, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: typhoon on October 23, 2014, 01:33:24 PM
Huh?
Rainfall warning in effect for:
•Fraser Valley - east including Chilliwack
 
Rain, at times heavy, is expected.

A frontal system has brought 46 mm of rain to Hope since last night. An additional 20 to 30 mm of rain is expected before rain eases off this evening with greater amounts near Hope.

http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc40#112050931582938554201410230502

Well one of our sources must be wrong. According to the forecast I looked at max 15mm over next 24h in Chilliwack and nice weather tomorrow:

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Taboo on October 23, 2014, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: Chehalis_Steel on October 23, 2014, 05:29:53 PM
Well one of our sources must be wrong. According to the forecast I looked at max 15mm over next 24h in Chilliwack and nice weather tomorrow:

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack

Nice!!!  I will be out starting tomorrow for the next 7 consecutive days hitting the river from top to bottom!!!!   8)  First opportunity this year and am going to go hard or go home!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dereke on October 23, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
I swear the weather network has a big wheel they spin and what it lands on they go with. In my personal experience Environment Canada is consistently more accurate... Not always of course.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Walleye76 on October 23, 2014, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: ALBA CHIEFISH on October 23, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
Can anybody report on the water conditions of the Vedder this afternoon?

Looking to get out tomorrow (friday) morning first thing.

I didnt check the water levels this monday and drove to a very dirty Squamish  :-[

Thanks

It's up a lot (2.35m) at Vedder crossing, coffee colored, if it doesn't rain much over night it might be "fishable" tomorrow but i wouldn't bank on it...
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on October 23, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Dont forget the drainage area of the Chilliwack river is something like 1000 square Km. Lack of rain in Chilliwack town doesn't necessarily mean there still isnt a huge volume of water on the way.

Quote from: Knnn on October 23, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
Phew; derailment avoided. Back on track, thank you for the report Dan.

No problem. Always glad to help someone save some gas and time. OTOH still managed to get into several chum and even a coho with a spinner in some soft water so was still an enjoyable day. Conditions were tough though, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 23, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
Snow showing on the mountains now so that may help some but still rain showers happening, one could always head to Tamihi Rapids. ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: ALBA CHIEFISH on October 24, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Got out first thing this morning. Clarity was good enough and plenty of water. Hooked and lost a bully silver coho, that i think obligingly stayed around and hit my second next cast  ;D 
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: minnie-me on October 24, 2014, 04:55:25 PM
Water is fine with 2 feet feet of vis today, fished mid river, tons of coho moving through and showing themselves, the springs have tapered off nicely.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 24, 2014, 05:19:26 PM
river is very high should make for a good weekend :)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fisherama on October 25, 2014, 03:00:00 PM
Fished mid-river today - high and clear.  Lots of fish and lots of people too...
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: farky on October 26, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
Just checked the graph ,river spiked up to 2.45m at the crossing with the rain last night .
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: top fuel on October 26, 2014, 07:31:47 AM
So I'm assuming it is un fishable
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on October 26, 2014, 09:17:05 AM
How's the water mid river?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Walleye76 on October 26, 2014, 10:21:56 AM
Went to check out river this morning, it's basically blown out...very high, dark and dirty. As Farky said it spiked last night to highest level in season...and it's still raining off and on in Sardis now..
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: NexusGoo on October 26, 2014, 04:28:43 PM
Went and looked upper and mid river and wow was she blowing. Had a foot of vis, but she was snorting. Going to take a day or two to drop down a bit and get the "tea" coloured water cleaned up
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: swimmingwiththefishes on October 26, 2014, 10:55:20 PM
Going to start puking rain tomorrow night so better get out there soon.

http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?bc42#356cwvr
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: marek on October 27, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
Fished the upper this morning.  Water was high but visibility was quite good.  Nobody around was hooking anything so I did some hiking to find slower water and I hooked a clean chum.  Guy up from me hooked a big chum and 2 coho.  Great day overall!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 27, 2014, 06:25:38 PM
Must be lots of fish around now as I found a few. ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 28, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
Water clarity was fine this morning and river level dropped a bit more last night, but the drop has tapered off now, most likely will start rising soon with this heavy rain ahead of us.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 28, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
water was very good this am. River looked very high still.


on a side note found this video today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVT-PpVw5b0
I hope when the snaggers get shamed like this that they will stop.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 28, 2014, 06:59:01 PM
Even had a fish jump at the red top of the Maple Leaf Drennan this evening, a first for a coho or chum as I have had steelhead do it a few times over the years. Nice conditions all day.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on October 29, 2014, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: TheLostSockeye on October 28, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
water was very good this am. River looked very high still.


on a side note found this video today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVT-PpVw5b0
I hope when the snaggers get shamed like this that they will stop.

Whoever that guy is deserves to a medal and needs to keep filming and just start sending these tapes in right to the DFO And tell em to wake the hell up.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: the_tall_man on October 29, 2014, 11:13:47 AM
Does anyone have a link for a detailed precipitation forecast for Chilliwack?  I'm looking for something that would break it down to hourly, show expected rainfall measurements and maybe even have a graph.  The most detail I can get in "general weather" sites is just % chance of rain by hour.... like, 3pm = 30% chance 4pm = 60% chance, etc. 

Ideally, it would be great to have a forecast line built into the hydrometric graph for the Chilliwack river levels.  This only shows up to the present:

http://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report/report_e.html?type=realTime&stn=08MH001

Which is helpful, but it would be awesome to know what the future levels look like based on rainfall predictions.  I've seen such a thing for the Nooksack river in the US:

http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/river/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?lid=NSSW1

Any other tools you guys use to gauge conditions would be interesting too!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on October 29, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
the Weather Network:  http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canada/british-columbia/chilliwack

gives rain and wind forecasts. Coose the 36 hour tab for predicted precip

Environment Canada: http://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-24_metric_e.html

Water gauge at Vedder Crossing: http://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report/report_e.html?type=realTime&stn=08MH001

Anything over 2meters is approaching flood level and makes fishing challenging
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BCfisherman97 on October 29, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
As long as there's visibility you can find fish. Fished it around 2.4 I think the last time out.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on October 29, 2014, 05:44:26 PM
Big catchment area over 1000 square km.
Went out a couple days ago got 2 hatch coho.
However went today and watched as the water
Kept rising over the course of 3 hrs.
Fast and furious today. Even though it wasn't raining all
That water is still coming off the hills.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 29, 2014, 07:28:15 PM
Showing some color at dark and it was on the rise all day, rain in the upper reaches was the reason.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on October 29, 2014, 07:55:56 PM
Chris is the most optimistic water clarity informant I know ... if he says it's showing color, the river is toast ;)
That said, no rain at the moment here.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: the_tall_man on October 29, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
Good links, thanks RalphH.

Yeah, made the mistake of going up today and it was not good.  High and fast and about 1 foot of vis.  Did see a fair number of coho on the move (rolling) but could only get 1 to bite, and he came unbuttoned.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 30, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
Water dropped overnight and hung on all day even through all the rain this afternoon, was chum city today.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on October 30, 2014, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on October 30, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
Water dropped overnight and hung on all day even through all the rain this afternoon, was chum city today.

The coho village was nearby… ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on October 30, 2014, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: A Frayed Knot on October 29, 2014, 08:35:47 AM
Whoever that guy is deserves to a medal and needs to keep filming and just start sending these tapes in right to the DFO And tell em to wake the hell up.
Unfortunately there's nothing in that video to indicate that fish was foul-hooked other than the cameraman saying BUSTED.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: GENERAL-SHERMAN on October 30, 2014, 09:28:57 PM
Quote from: TheLostSockeye on October 28, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
water was very good this am. River looked very high still.


on a side note found this video today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVT-PpVw5b0
I hope when the snaggers get shamed like this that they will stop.

although I don't agree with snagging that tossing the gills bit was pretty funny  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 30, 2014, 11:05:35 PM
Quote from: DanL on October 30, 2014, 09:23:24 PM
Unfortunately there's nothing in that video to indicate that fish was foul-hooked other than the cameraman saying BUSTED.

I was there and witnessed the whole thing. Before the guy started filming he bonked a wild coho that was hooked in the belly.
Got a lot of free berries from the guys up there  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on October 31, 2014, 04:18:15 PM
the river was blown out completely today. less than 6 inches visibility. saw some full grown trees float by that created loud noises from the branches getting ripped off.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on October 31, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Coho Salmon season in the Vedder is now over for 2014.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: clarki on October 31, 2014, 06:07:12 PM
I wouldn't call it "blown" in the upper river. I purposely fished the upper to get above the slides. Water had 18" vis, maybe more.

The challenge wasn't the visibility, but more so finding soft water out of the torrent where the fish would be holding.

No salmon caught, but did catch my biggest rainbow out of the river, a 17" clipped.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Walleye76 on November 01, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: chris gadsden on October 31, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Coho Salmon season in the Vedder is now over for 2014.

??? Your referring to the blown out river here I'm assuming?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 01, 2014, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Walleye76 on November 01, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
??? Your referring to the blown out river here I'm assuming?
In the olds days we had good fishing well into December on the Chilliwack Vedder but now it starts to taper off in the first week of November, for fresh fish anyway. The good part is, the majority of long liners will have moved on then too and the chinooks they were having lots of success with are now over, of course the high water of late in the Canal helped too.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on November 01, 2014, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 01, 2014, 03:31:37 PM
In the olds days we had good fishing well into December on the Chilliwack Vedder but now it starts to taper off in the first week of November, for fresh fish anyway. The good part is, the majority of long liners will have moved on then too and the chinooks they were having lots of success with are now over, of course the high water of late in the Canal helped too.
Bang on Chris. I remember fresh coho in the lower river in December ... often you were not sure at first if you had a bright coho or a small steelhead on :)  But, some good news ... there is a lot of lower river off channel habitat recently created by DFO, with the goal of bringing back that late run coho component, as well as creating safe (from high water events) spawning areas for chum and pinks. The even better news is this recruitment will be wild fish, or at least as wild as Vedder coho can be ..
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: BNF861 on November 01, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Maybe its just me but the last couple years I have seen more coho around later than I am used to.

This one surprised me on January 1st this year. Was thinking steelhead until I got it in for a look. Latest I have ever caught a coho on the Vedder.

(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r547/BNF861/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/BNF861/media/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: swimmingwiththefishes on November 01, 2014, 04:49:01 PM
I got a few beauties last mid-december in the lower. All wild. So maybe they are coming back.

(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/thoprice88/IMG_1369_zpsa968d5cf.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Geff_t on November 01, 2014, 08:13:44 PM
Does anyone know what the river looked like this afternoon?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jeff on November 01, 2014, 08:16:57 PM
I was there till 4pm and it still wasn't great.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Geff_t on November 01, 2014, 08:19:23 PM
Ok thank you.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 01, 2014, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: BNF861 on November 01, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Maybe its just me but the last couple years I have seen more coho around later than I am used to.

This one surprised me on January 1st this year. Was thinking steelhead until I got it in for a look. Latest I have ever caught a coho on the Vedder.

(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r547/BNF861/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/BNF861/media/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg.html)
Years ago I got one like that in January and also 2 bright chum in the same month that I thought were steelhead too, for a few seconds especially when I saw a bright flash.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 01, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
Lets see who reports the last coho of the season, a bright one that is, from the Chilliwack Vedder system.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on November 01, 2014, 09:14:46 PM
As of dusk water clarity was surprisingly good. Probably almost 2 feet. Level still very high but dropping
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Stratocaster on November 01, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
Be careful with those late coho.  They come in clean but shortly after giving them the rock shampoo, they turn very dark with meat like a boot coho.  That's why I rarely keep any coho after November.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dlo on November 01, 2014, 11:43:19 PM
I was just above you when you got that 


Quote from: BNF861 on November 01, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Maybe its just me but the last couple years I have seen more coho around later than I am used to.

This one surprised me on January 1st this year. Was thinking steelhead until I got it in for a look. Latest I have ever caught a coho on the Vedder.

(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r547/BNF861/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/BNF861/media/A74BFCA7-3CD4-432E-AFA6-B87362317F7C_zpsd5tpyb95.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 02, 2014, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: BNF861 on November 01, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Maybe its just me but the last couple years I have seen more coho around later than I am used to.


seemed to me that 2012 & 2013 had far better coho returns than we've seen over the previous several seasons. Even 2011 was relatively good. I know last year I wa taking coho all through November and into mid December.My sense is the numbers have dropped back this year and after mid-Nov is always the tail of the run so I'd expect we won't see as many late fish as the last couple of years. Mind you I had the best Sept I ever had and my 1st coho this year was Sept 8th.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on November 02, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
Had a small hatchery break off my jig as I went to tail it today to make sure, and also bonked another hatchery.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 02, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Good water conditions this AM, saw a jack coho taken.

Will give the evening a try in a few minutes.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 02, 2014, 06:09:05 PM
Water still good, no fish again but only had 15 minutes of fishing time when I got to the spot.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Walleye76 on November 02, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
Hit mid-upper today, landed a pretty clean chum doe on second cast, and 2 bucks over the next hour and a bit. Water is still high but visability was aroubd 4ft
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 03, 2014, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: RalphH on November 02, 2014, 09:57:16 AM
s Mind you I had the best Sept I ever had and my 1st coho this year was Sept 8th.
This coming from RalphH, so much for the "good old days" BS.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2014, 02:28:08 PM
LOL, what good old days BS?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 03, 2014, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: RalphH on November 03, 2014, 02:28:08 PM
LOL, what good old days BS?
just how people always say the fishing were so much better in the old days...............but seriously...............it really isn't all that bad right now. Those who remember the really good days are long gone.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 03, 2014, 04:19:31 PM
but seriously what are you raving about? When have I ever said the fishing was so much better 'in the old days'. The most recent thing I recall saying about the old days was how the Vedder/ Chilliwack was as big a dirt hole for snaggers and dippers 30 or 40 years as it is today.

I may have had a good Sept for coho this year but overall I caught 3 times as many coho last year as what I have caught this year so far. I guess last year was the 'good old days'. Most of the good old days I seldom caught a coho in Sept.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: flyguy1 on November 03, 2014, 08:05:31 PM
 I think with all this rain and the water being so high the Coho are harder to find specially in the wider rivers  Harrison , Stave rivers  etc. In Rivers that are not as wide Chehalis and Vedder systems the rivers get blown out and coho shoot up river much quicker  hopefully the rain will taper off for the month of November.
Only 5 coho counted in the Albion test fisheries as of October 20, 2014  so possibly a late run or not a very good run of Coho this year...... just my 2 cents worth   
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 03, 2014, 09:20:09 PM
Coho salmon fishing has been fantastic so far this year IMO. We were pretty spoiled by last season but the last few weeks have been almost just as good after a pretty slow start in September. I find it pretty enjoyable to fish it now, since most runs are void of people. Most people have gone up to Tamahi, leaving all the nice runs where you can actually trick the fish to bite.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on November 03, 2014, 09:33:29 PM
I picked up twitching jigs on Saturday and today I landed my 1st coho twitching a jig on a custom, hand-tied jig to boot. 6 lbs hatchery buck that was already starting to get its spawning colours. Will be a good one for the smoker since our freezers are stacked up with sockeye fillets.

On the other hand, haven't had a chum touch my presentation in 3 days. Can't complain as long as im hooking coho though  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bigsnag on November 03, 2014, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: bigsnag on November 03, 2014, 11:35:50 AM
This coming from RalphH, so much for the "good old days" BS.
sorry Ralphie, I wasn't targeting you. just people who made that comment in general.
take care
j
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 04, 2014, 04:30:15 AM
Quote from: Rodney on November 03, 2014, 09:20:09 PM
Coho salmon fishing has been fantastic so far this year IMO. We were pretty spoiled by last season but the last few weeks have been almost just as good after a pretty slow start in September. I find it pretty enjoyable to fish it now, since most runs are void of people. Most people have gone up to Tamahi, leaving all the nice runs where you can actually trick the fish to bite.
Maybe my video sent them there. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on November 04, 2014, 12:12:23 PM
Regarding those very late season cohos, are those stragglers from the main October run, or are they their own distinct population that happen to return and spawn later like you see in the North Fraser flows?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 04, 2014, 12:13:36 PM
For those who are still fishing the Chilliwack River, please note the following study which is happening right now. Researchers from UBC are currently conducting a study on coho salmon migration to the Chilliwack River. Around 200 coho salmon were tagged in the Fraser River around Fort Langley between October 21st and 27th. Fish are expected to make their way into the Chilliwack River in the next three weeks. Please see this poster and find out what you should do when you encounter these fish. It is possible some of these fish may end up in other Lower Fraser tributaries too. Please share this poster so your friends are also aware of this study.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141104-2_zpsc9747b8b.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: EZ_Rolling on November 04, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
Hi Rod

It mentions retention but shows a punched adipose fin, if these are wild fish they should not be retained.

can you elaborate?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 04, 2014, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: EZ_Rolling on November 04, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
Hi Rod

It mentions retention but shows a punched adipose fin, if these are wild fish they should not be retained.

can you elaborate?

I sent those questions in last night and just waiting for a response right now. I'll post the answer up as soon as I get it
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Ambassador on November 04, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
Ah! That make sense.
I was up at the Adams last weekend and noticed a number of the sockeye sporting unusual items such as a large yellow wire through its back. Many more had little orange discs through their back behind the dorsal fin which I assumed were some sort of tracking device - but the yellow wired one stumped me.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZzcAyc0.png?1)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 04, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: EZ_Rolling on November 04, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
Hi Rod

It mentions retention but shows a punched adipose fin, if these are wild fish they should not be retained.

can you elaborate?

Just heard back. Only hatchery-marked fish were tagged in this study. I'll see if I can get them to revise the diagram in that poster.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on November 04, 2014, 06:02:59 PM
Good on you Rod ;) That was an old poster and has been used before for similar studies .. I suspect someone at UBC is embarrassed.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 04, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
Saw them, UBC up river today.
 River was mud but the dippers, long liners etc. where hard at work. Saw a chap at the Cement Slabs with one hooked in the side, I made sure it was released. FOC was out there today as well and I spent some time talking to him about all this type of activity and how it can be curtailed.

I know Jason, Rod and Nick said education is the answer, I donot know what they are planning to do as I am sure there is just too many of them to educate but kudos to them for trying.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Flytech on November 04, 2014, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 04, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
I know Jason, Rod and Nick said education is the answer, I donot know what they are planning to do as I am sure there is just too many of them to educate but kudos to them for trying.


It's like a virus. You infect one person with knowledge, then they infect 3 others, and so on... ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on November 04, 2014, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 04, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
Saw them, UBC up river today.
 River was mud but the dippers, long liners etc. where hard at work. Saw a chap at the Cement Slabs with one hooked in the side, I made sure it was released. FOC was out there today as well and I spent some time talking to him about all this type of activity and how it can be curtailed.

I know Jason, Rod and Nick said education is the answer, I donot know what they are planning to do as I am sure there is just too many of them to educate but kudos to them for trying.

I to got to volunteer today and help w/ the ubc-er's which was pretty cool since thats my "hood" *flashes ubc signs* :O lol jk I was actually out milking chum and collecting eggs, there was some serious brutes!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rieber on November 04, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ambassador on November 04, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
Ah! That make sense.
I was up at the Adams last weekend and noticed a number of the sockeye sporting unusual items such as a large yellow wire through its back. Many more had little orange discs through their back behind the dorsal fin which I assumed were some sort of tracking device - but the yellow wired one stumped me.

The yellow wire may have been a fuse.  :o
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rieber on November 04, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 04, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
Saw them, UBC up river today.
 River was mud but the dippers, long liners etc. where hard at work. Saw a chap at the Cement Slabs with one hooked in the side, I made sure it was released. FOC was out there today as well and I spent some time talking to him about all this type of activity and how it can be curtailed.

What is a dipper? Sorry - I missed the meaning of this term somewhere along the way.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: jeff on November 04, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
On sunday my brother and i converted a long liner which lead to him catching his first ever salmon. We were fishing jigs with one foot leaders and floats sitting right on top of our weights in about 3 feet of water. After our third double header he came up to us and asked what we were fishing. I told him he was fishing way too deep and he said he thought that was the way to do it. He then said it must be wrong because he wasn't catching fish and we were. So we gave him a jig showed him how to rig it and how to fish it, and sure enough 5 minutes later he hooked a nice looking chum which he kept. It felt good to help the guy out. Hopefully that was our small part to help out on the river.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 04, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Quote from: Rodney on November 04, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
Just heard back. Only hatchery-marked fish were tagged in this study. I'll see if I can get them to revise the diagram in that poster.

Just out of curiosity what method did the researchers use to capture and tag these coho in Ft.Langley?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 04, 2014, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: bbronswyk2000 on November 04, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Just out of curiosity what method did the researchers use to capture and tag these coho in Ft.Langley?

I have no idea Bryan. I'll ask.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on November 04, 2014, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: bbronswyk2000 on November 04, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Just out of curiosity what method did the researchers use to capture and tag these coho in Ft.Langley?

Traps and nets typical, once I've seen them use rods but mostly I see them drop nets like gillnets but smaller hole and just sorta coral salmon. But I guess it depends on where and when.

(http://i.imgur.com/2CSbCua.jpg)

This is what I am used to seeing myself but I don't know for sure if this is the "go-to" method or not.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SPEYMAN on November 04, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
"Beach Seining" is the method shown in the picture.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on November 04, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: SPEYMAN on November 04, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
"Beach Seining" is the method shown in the picture.

Yes, I am well aware. It seems to be the safest for the fish, when milking/eggs, I just wondered if this is SOP for adult salmon.
Read a fantastic report from the Uk about the Steelhead and Atlantic salmon program the other day at work. I hope it catches on here.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 05, 2014, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: Rieber on November 04, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
What is a dipper? Sorry - I missed the meaning of this term somewhere along the way.
The way they fish here. http://youtu.be/ocrNO4q1LdM?list=UU_4LtEFjHj-ulBHuoq6COmQ
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: rezak on November 05, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
Quote from: Rieber on November 04, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
What is a dipper? Sorry - I missed the meaning of this term somewhere along the way.

I'm, curious to know the definition of them too.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DanL on November 05, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: rezak on November 05, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
I'm, curious to know the definition of them too.

Also known as 'pocket flossing' where you find a soft piece of water behind some structure like a boulder (ie the pocket). Flip/dip your presentation into said pocket do a very short drift which may only be a few feet long. At the end lift your presentation out of the water and repeat ad nauseum.

Often that pocket is literally right at your feet like you see at Tamahi in the video posted by Chris. So close that you don't even need to cast or reel in between drifts. Fish will travel up the edges to avoid the heavy rapids so are easily targeted in such spots.

Pull out just enough line and dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift all day long. In the right pocket you can literally do hundreds of drifts per hour because they are so short AKA dipping

The main criticisms is that sections like Tamihi draw an insane number of people fishing shoulder to shoulder, the incidence of foul-hooked fish is pretty high, and because of the rapids and density of people around you, when a fish is on they often just try to haul it out of the water ASAP like bass fishing (see 1:20 mark in Chris's video above). Those who are good at it can certainly get into good numbers but many find it a mind-numbing way to fish. Not many would describe it as enjoyable...
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Carich980 on November 05, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
Pretty much any set of rapids on the Upper River there are guys doing that. Tell tale sign is the float a few feet from the tip bobbing like a yo-yo never actually touching the water. Oh well only a few more weeks and they're all gone.  :P
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: typhoon on November 05, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
Another characteristic of dipping is a horizontal presentation.
The pockets are often narrow, so the leader can't be long but a neutral or floating bait is always presented to improve the probability of flossing.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rieber on November 05, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: DanL on November 05, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Also known as 'pocket flossing' where you find a soft piece of water behind some structure like a boulder (ie the pocket). Flip/dip your presentation into said pocket do a very short drift which may only be a few feet long. At the end lift your presentation out of the water and repeat ad nauseum.

Often that pocket is literally right at your feet like you see at Tamahi in the video posted by Chris. So close that you don't even need to cast or reel in between drifts. Fish will travel up the edges to avoid the heavy rapids so are easily targeted in such spots.

Pull out just enough line and dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift-dip-drift all day long. In the right pocket you can literally do hundreds of drifts per hour because they are so short AKA dipping

The main criticisms is that sections like Tamihi draw an insane number of people fishing shoulder to shoulder, the incidence of foul-hooked fish is pretty high, and because of the rapids and density of people around you, when a fish is on they often just try to haul it out of the water ASAP like bass fishing (see 1:20 mark in Chris's video above). Those who are good at it can certainly get into good numbers but many find it a mind-numbing way to fish. Not many would describe it as enjoyable...

Hmmm, that definition reminds me of creek fishing with fly - just hitting all the pocket water. I didn't realize that was frowned upon.
My interpretation of a Dipper was some thing negative, more towards the snagging side of things where someone may chose to use a large hooked object like a big spoon dipped in a pocket - drift it through the run then rip it out of the water at the end or on any bump.

Thank you - now I know what a Dipper is.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: RalphH on November 05, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
If someone or some group of people fish in a manner that doesn't' appeal to you or you and your cronies - just give it a name and insist it's focus is purely on flossing and/or snagging as many fish as possible in as short a span of time as possible. It's the surest way to "stick out" in the grindingly elitist world of gear fishing for salmon and steelhead  :)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DRP79 on November 05, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
(http://www.broken-fish.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stay-on-topic.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: A Frayed Knot on November 05, 2014, 06:19:52 PM
Quote from: Rieber on November 05, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
Hmmm, that definition reminds me of creek fishing with fly - just hitting all the pocket water. I didn't realize that was frowned upon.
My interpretation of a Dipper was some thing negative, more towards the snagging side of things where someone may chose to use a large hooked object like a big spoon dipped in a pocket - drift it through the run then rip it out of the water at the end or on any bump.

Thank you - now I know what a Dipper is.

I don't think its frowned upon at all, I think people are starting to knit pick about techniques, if you don't fish their way with set up, spot and at that specific time everyone else is wrong. Your way or the highway mentality. But don't you dare get caught in the same system/body of water cause its super secret and the internets to blame.

Fishing the unfishable spots is kinda my favorite but I do so with my single hand rod. Full Floating w/ a shorter leader because the fly thanks to the current gets down into the strike zone PDQ. All thats needed a good false cast and than lining up the fly directly in front of you, to high up and you'll snag a rock fish or cedar pike  :P great trophies I grant you! but terrible on the plate! Anyway a quick mend and let it drift right to the beach, if you start to retrieve to soon, you are liking to foul or snag between the boulders, which isn't good that waters fast and ugly, not really safe. Playing tug-a-war is never a good idea.
I tend to do quite well but the only time I have success with that type of fishing is usually when the waters just right, I like it a little on the high side.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: FlyFishin Magician on November 05, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: DRP79 on November 05, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
(http://www.broken-fish.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stay-on-topic.jpg)

LOL - good one!  Porkins???

Actually, it was Davish Krail (Gold 5) who quoted the famous "Stay on target" during the Battle of Yavin.  OK - back to the topic.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 05, 2014, 07:31:34 PM
Water was fishable today but high in the area I fish so went to the North side.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Noahs Arc on November 06, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
Can anyone comment on water conditions?

Graphs not working for me for some reason anyone else having problems?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 06, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Water level spiked again on the graph.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: leapin' tyee on November 06, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: Noahs Arc on November 06, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
Can anyone comment on water conditions?

Graphs not working for me for some reason anyone else having problems?

Current Value:
2.547M
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Noahs Arc on November 06, 2014, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: Rodney on November 06, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Water level spiked again on the graph.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 06, 2014, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: Rodney on November 06, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Water level spiked again on the graph.
That is why I said a few days ago the coho fishing is over for this year on the Chilliwack Vedder. Also not only too much water it is in bad shape clarity wise.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 06, 2014, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: bbronswyk2000 on November 04, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
Just out of curiosity what method did the researchers use to capture and tag these coho in Ft.Langley?

The fish were taken from Chilliwack Hatchery, tagged, transported and released down in Fort Langley. It'll be very interesting to see how many make their way back, so lets keep an eye out for them and report the tags. :)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on November 07, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
River should drop quite a bit over the next couple of days with the high pressure system and nice weather. Hopefully it will shape up in time for some late coho.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on November 07, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
Checked out the crossing around 3:45pm and the water was still extremely high. Had a blue murk color to it.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Sir Snag-A-Lot on November 07, 2014, 06:18:28 PM
Is there any reasonable flyfishing water in high water conditions, assuming clarity while the water is falling this weekend?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: obie1fish on November 07, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
Just checked the hydrograph water level graph from Vedder Crossing. Wish my retirement plan looked like this. Unfortunately, it looks more like my blood pressure levels.  ::)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on November 07, 2014, 09:25:08 PM
Yes.  And go to the clinic while you still have sick days. ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Chehalis_Steel on November 08, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: Sir Snag-A-Lot on November 07, 2014, 06:18:28 PM
Is there any reasonable flyfishing water in high water conditions, assuming clarity while the water is falling this weekend?

Yea its doable. I've caught Coho in pretty nasty looking water before. Cool thing is that fish often move really close to shore where there's less current in high water so don't overlook water that would normally be too shallow. Big black and/or purple flies help too; big white and silver rolled muddler size 4 has also worked for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 09, 2014, 07:17:22 PM
Went out his morning for only about 30 minutes as was so wet and miserable but the water was nice, I found a couple of jack coho's and missed a few take downs.

No one in sight. I guess they figure the season is over now too and are waiting for steelhead.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 09, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
It has been over since 9 days ago. ;D

Some fish and fishermen missed the memo this weekend. ;)

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141109-2_zps0bfb9236.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: silver ghost on November 10, 2014, 12:14:23 AM
Went poking around the hatchery saturday after the tackle sale. looks like 4-5 of those spaghetti tagged fish made their way back into the hatchery channels.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 10, 2014, 04:42:20 AM
Quote from: Rodney on November 09, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
It has been over since 9 days ago. ;D

Some fish and fishermen missed the memo this weekend. ;)

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141109-2_zps0bfb9236.jpg)
Are you trying to keep people off the river? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 10, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
Out today for a few casts after a duck hunt but no action saw one small fish being carried, great conditions it must be over now Rod. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Drewhill on November 10, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
Was there today and conditions were great. Water was high but clear. What shocked me was usually there's a lot more dead or almost dead chum kicking around and I didn't see many. Also most spots were empty of people except for Tamahi which easily had about 30 cars  ::)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2014, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: Drewhill on November 10, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
Was there today and conditions were great. Water was high but clear. What shocked me was usually there's a lot more dead or almost dead chum kicking around and I didn't see many. Also most spots were empty of people except for Tamahi which easily had about 30 cars  ::)
I agree with the lack of chum and chinook carcasses; most likely another bad year for eagles and gulls that depend on this river at this time.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: salmonrook on November 10, 2014, 08:05:33 PM
Quote
What shocked me was usually there's a lot more dead or almost dead chum kicking around and I didn't see many.
Washed downriver with the late high water ?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Flytech on November 10, 2014, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: salmonrook on November 10, 2014, 08:05:33 PM
Washed downriver with the late high water ?


That would be my guess.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2014, 08:54:42 PM
The off channel areas in the lower river have far fewer chums to date than past years; these channels are not impacted by high water events in the main river, and that's exactly why they were built.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Tenz85 on November 10, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Few weeks back saw some people with pitch fork like sticks taking the carcasses out of the water and placing them on the shores.  Definitely speeds up the decaying process and likely helps the vegetation. I believe they were volunteers or hired by some environmental agency.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Dave on November 11, 2014, 07:22:24 AM
Quote from: Tenz85 on November 10, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Few weeks back saw some people with pitch fork like sticks taking the carcasses out of the water and placing them on the shores.  Definitely speeds up the decaying process and likely helps the vegetation. I believe they were volunteers or hired by some environmental agency.
If you saw these people on the Vedder they were a DFO enumeration crew.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 11, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 10, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
Out today for a few casts after a duck hunt but no action saw one small fish being carried, great conditions it must be over now Rod. ;D ;D ;D

Possibly! ;D Another one didn't get the memo this morning. ;D

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141111-1_zps91556ae1.jpg)

Water level is dropping a bit faster now due to the cold weather, but it's still a bit high. By the end of this week there should be more fishable runs.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 11, 2014, 12:20:23 PM
Quote from: Rodney on November 11, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
Possibly! ;D Another one didn't get the memo this morning. ;D

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141111-1_zps91556ae1.jpg)

Water level is dropping a bit faster now due to the cold weather, but it's still a bit high. By the end of this week there should be more fishable runs.
Time to try and catch them float fishing.  ;D :D I was out out for a bit before I went to the Remembrance service but the float stayed dry once again. The howling wind did not help matters. Was great to see a large attendance at the cenotaph as Canadians remember.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: islanddude on November 11, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
Chris.
  The duck hunting should be good with the cold weather. Time to walk the creeks and jump a few northeners.
 Got any good corn fields?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 11, 2014, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: islanddude on November 11, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
Chris.
  The duck hunting should be good with the cold weather. Time to walk the creeks and jump a few northeners.
 Got any good corn fields?
To windy right now to hunt and too fish too. Its a hurricane out there now.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 12, 2014, 08:32:18 AM
Fished for 45  minutes out of the wind this morning but it was steelhead cold with guides icing up. Managed a fresh run chum.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Silex-user on November 12, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: chris gadsden on November 12, 2014, 08:32:18 AM
Fished for 45  minutes out of the wind this morning but it was steelhead cold with guides icing up. Managed a fresh run chum.

Great!!! Chris mention steelhead.....cold time for for me to come out to play at Chill-Vedder. LOL


Silex-user
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 13, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
Water is still dropping nicely as expected and quite clear now. There are still a few fresh fish around, like this one from this morning.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141113-1_zps201f0ba3.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: redtide on November 13, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
i think rodney lives in chilliwack....nice fish rod.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: salmonrook on November 13, 2014, 11:48:15 PM
Nice fish, on a hammered croc too , hmmm
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 14, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
The brass hammered fire stripe Croc has pretty much caught all of my fish in the last two weeks (beside a couple that were caught on a nickel hammered fire stripe Croc, and one fish on a homemade 1/4oz spinner with a green #4 French blade).
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: salmonrook on November 14, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Clearly not fishing in the right places or the right times,I have several of these , hmmmm
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 14, 2014, 06:33:05 PM
The right places have been the slowest water bodies you can find along the river where fish might stay for awhile. The right time has been first thing in the morning, or anytime during the day if it is overcast.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 16, 2014, 11:48:55 AM
Water is now gin clear, it dropped a lot in the last few days.

A couple of more late season fresh fish came out of it this morning, caught by a friend.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141116-1_zps604ca9f7.jpg)

Finding biting fish is not the only challenge now.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141116-2_zpse68c9fc4.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: nevertoolate on November 16, 2014, 04:22:56 PM
I am totally new to all this.   Tried going to the Vedder in October but it was all rained out, then I had to go out of town.  Is there any point in trying again up there?  I will go tomorrow if there is.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: riptide on November 16, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
See above
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: burnaby on November 16, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
Obviously if you are Rod's friend it is worth trying and succeeding. What kind of answer are you expecting after seeing pics of two fresh HOs, pics tells it all.
Quote from: lshollands on November 16, 2014, 04:22:56 PM
I am totally new to all this.   Tried going to the Vedder in October but it was all rained out, then I had to go out of town.  Is there any point in trying again up there?  I will go tomorrow if there is.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on November 16, 2014, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: lshollands on November 16, 2014, 04:22:56 PM
Is there any point in trying again up there?  I will go tomorrow if there is.
I think it's worth it, but you'll need to look for fish.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: nevertoolate on November 16, 2014, 06:44:32 PM
thanks.  (by the way, I'm not Rod)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 16, 2014, 07:11:46 PM
It's always worth going out, there'll always be something to gain. If no fish are caught, at least walk some new runs and keep a mental note on what they are like. This makes future trips easier.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: dobrolub on November 22, 2014, 05:51:26 PM
Did not see much action today. People are fishing stale salmon in small pulls  :(

This little guy didn't make it back in time when the water receded too fast this morning.
(http://s27.postimg.org/e8vskoz9r/IMG_4649.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/e8vskoz9r/)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on November 23, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
Bonked a hatchery coho and released a hatchery jack coho today. Lost another coloured coho too. All on twitching jigs.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: SilverChaser on November 24, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Another chrome hatchery bonked on the custom jig today. Water is really clear and low.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Rodney on November 24, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
Water was clear and low again today but this rain may change that for the rest of this week. Still some nice fish around.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2014/141124-2_zps74cfab51.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: TheLostSockeye on November 25, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
Very old but still an interesting read

http://www.chilliwackwatershedstrategy.ca/docs/2005_10_12_CR_WS_Background_Document_FINAL.pdf
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on November 28, 2014, 06:52:43 AM
http://www.theprogress.com/news/284108701.html?mobile=true
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: DRP79 on December 06, 2014, 08:33:35 AM
How is the river holding up with this rain? I see the level seems to be holding ok. Weather network says there is mucho wind in the valley. Any word on clarity?
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: kevzabob on December 06, 2014, 10:44:16 AM
I heard its 2 feet and still high water around 2.2 at Vedder crossing
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: chris gadsden on December 09, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: DRP79 on December 06, 2014, 08:33:35 AM
How is the river holding up with this rain? I see the level seems to be holding ok. Weather network says there is mucho wind in the valley. Any word on clarity?
It will be a while before the river will be fishable, running high and muddy when I looked this AM

Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: steelheaderpin on December 12, 2014, 02:05:04 PM
How bad is she looking chilliwack guys??
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Pin-nook on December 12, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
Gonna be happy when the river comes down because typically around this time, the river is low and most fish get picked off or become pin cushions in the lower river.  Can't wait to see what new runs there are and to see how it's changed!
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Humpy on December 12, 2014, 03:12:11 PM
May head out tomorrow, will report back.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: steely02 on December 12, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
Still high n brown
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Walleye76 on December 12, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
It's 2.75 meters at Vedder crossing according to The gov water office site....http://wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report/report_e.html?type=realTime&stn=08MH001
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: sugartooth on December 12, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
Upper was 6''-1' viz with a green colour to it.  Lower was 0""-6"" viz with a grey colour to it.  The water level is high.
Title: Re: 2014 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates
Post by: Humpy on December 12, 2014, 06:04:24 PM
Any bull trout reports?