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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: kevzabob on August 25, 2014, 09:48:14 PM

Title: versatile rod and reel
Post by: kevzabob on August 25, 2014, 09:48:14 PM
Just wondering what a good all around versatile rod and reel combo is for, rivers like the Chilliwack, Vedder, and for lakes.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: A Frayed Knot on August 26, 2014, 12:49:36 AM
I don't thing there are to many nowadays. Most are getting water/species specific. I could very well be wrong but if you are just trout fishing pretty much anything will do thats light tackle friendly5ft abu garcia rated for 2-6lb line is usually pretty good
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: 1son on August 26, 2014, 01:34:57 AM
Not sure if your a newbie or what but shimano convergence rod is a good starter and any bottom end abu/shimano level wind reel will do just fine on the vedder/chilliwack river.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: typhoon on August 26, 2014, 01:45:06 AM
There really isn't a rod that will work well for salmon over 10lbs in a river and for much smaller trout in a lake.
Your best bet might be a 8'6" or 9 medium light power casting rod that can be used for float fishing roe or casting spoons or spinners in the slower water of the Vedder for coho or steelhead. It's still a bit heavy for lakes but you could get by.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: G-Ratt on August 26, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
One option would be to get a lower profile baitcasting reel, one that isn't too heavy, like a Shimano Caenan or a similar Abu reel. And to get a cheaper, lighter and shorter rod for lakes, and a Convergence or something similar for the Vedder. It wouldn't be too expensive, and might give you a bit more versatility.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: Damien on August 26, 2014, 06:13:02 PM
Good idea with the two rods, one reel idea.

I would do a spinning reel with a 6'6' light rod and a 9'6" - 10'6" medium rod fast action for the rivers.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: Every Day on August 26, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
Get a TFO spinning rod, 4-8 pounds. Cabela's had a few last time I was in there.
I pair it with a Penn Fierce 2000 spinning reel with 15 pound braid.
It's been awesome for Kitty and I on salmon, trout, char and steelhead.

It's landed chinook:
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Nice summer steelies:
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And you also get a heck of a fight out of rainbows this size:
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I'd highly recommend it. Super good back bone, and light for the trout. Probably one of the nicest rods I've ever picked up, and I have gone through a bunch. Super good price too.

The only thing is, it doesn't offer a tonne of diversity. If you're float fishing for chinook or chum, I'd say stay away from it. If you're targeting coho and steelhead, pinks and trout/char, you can't beat it for chucking spoons/bobber fishing bait/twitching jigs/etc. Heck I've even used it all year bottom bouncing sockeye without a single problem.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: NOFF on September 08, 2014, 12:27:37 PM
Anyone know where to get ether a "Shimano Convergence" (Steelhead & Salmon Rod) & the "Fenwick HMX" (Steelhead & Salmon Rod) 9.6 ft, 8-12 lb

In the Okanagan OR lower mainland, preferably Langley-Abby area


Thanks
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: NexusGoo on September 08, 2014, 03:37:06 PM
Try Wholesale Sports, Freds in Abby or any of the local Canadian Tires bud. Good luck
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: leapin' tyee on September 08, 2014, 05:04:43 PM
Anyone know where to get ether a "Shimano Convergence" (Steelhead & Salmon Rod) & the "Fenwick HMX" (Steelhead & Salmon Rod) 9.6 ft, 8-12 lb

In the Okanagan OR lower mainland, preferably Langley-Abby area


Thanks

 Army And Navy in Langley
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: wonder on September 08, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
X2 for the convergence if you want a drift rod, you can get those and hmx at freds abby
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: NOFF on September 08, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
I would guess only get the "Steelhead and Salmon" model as there's like 5 diff models of each correct?
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: kindalonismo on September 08, 2014, 09:23:19 PM
[quote author=Every Day link=topic=36307.msg344079#msg344079 date=1409108937
Get a TFO spinning rod, 4-8 pounds. Cabela's had a few last time I was in there.
I pair it with a Penn Fierce 2000 spinning reel with 15 pound braid.
It's been awesome for Kitty and I on salmon, trout, char and steelhead.]



Sorry to jack the thread, but was thinking of adding a spinning rod to the arsenal after trying some fishing from the beach this summer.  What length of rod do you prefer Everyday?  Cheers
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: NOFF on September 08, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
I was looking at the TFO that kitty posted. Did you get the flyrod/spiner combo or what model exact?

I wanted one for float fishing but also i could use the rod for casting spinners too!
(One thats versatile for both)
For cohos, pinks, even if i get a big spring or chum.

The thing is, i can always get a normal casting rod with the new baitcaster I get and just switch the rods that I use for (rivers / lakes) if i get a 12 LB line then it could work for both thoughts?
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: Every Day on September 08, 2014, 10:29:05 PM
Sorry to jack the thread, but was thinking of adding a spinning rod to the arsenal after trying some fishing from the beach this summer.  What length of rod do you prefer Everyday?  Cheers

I normally stick with 9'6". It seems to be standard length for spinning rods in the action/weight ratings I like. I don't like shorter as it generally effects casting distance. Lots of guys use longer ones for spinning off the beach (13 feet or so). It gives you an extra 20 feet casting distance if you have the right rod, which can be key at times off the beach, but I've gotten by just fine with the 9'6".

I was looking at the TFO that kitty posted. Did you get the flyrod/spiner combo or what model exact?

I wanted one for float fishing but also i could use the rod for casting spinners too!
(One thats versatile for both)
For cohos, pinks, even if i get a big spring or chum.

The thing is, i can always get a normal casting rod with the new baitcaster I get and just switch the rods that I use for (rivers / lakes) if i get a 12 LB line then it could work for both thoughts?

The rod is a TFO STS 962-2 9'6" 4-8 pnds casting rod.

It won't work with a baitcasting reel on it (at least this model). It might work with a pin on it, I haven't tried yet. They may have a baitcasting model in this rod, not sure. I'd say it's worth looking into though, it's probably the best rod in it's price range I've ever used... actually I'd say it's in the class of Loomis and the like (this series for TFO is actually designed by Loomis).

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: NOFF on September 08, 2014, 10:55:43 PM
I'll phone tomorrow and ask if they do, thanks for your opinion. Seems like a great option

Will the convergence/HMX work with a low profile bait caster at 9 feet, I can't seem to find them at 9.6 even though people say they have them.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: kindalonismo on September 09, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
I normally stick with 9'6". It seems to be standard length for spinning rods in the action/weight ratings I like. I don't like shorter as it generally effects casting distance. Lots of guys use longer ones for spinning off the beach (13 feet or so). It gives you an extra 20 feet casting distance if you have the right rod, which can be key at times off the beach, but I've gotten by just fine with the 9'6".

The rod is a TFO STS 962-2 9'6" 4-8 pnds casting rod.

It won't work with a baitcasting reel on it (at least this model). It might work with a pin on it, I haven't tried yet. They may have a baitcasting model in this rod, not sure. I'd say it's worth looking into though, it's probably the best rod in it's price range I've ever used... actually I'd say it's in the class of Loomis and the like (this series for TFO is actually designed by Loomis).

Cheers,
Dan

Cheers for the info Dan!  Really appreciate it!
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: barklee on September 21, 2014, 03:12:22 AM
TFO are expensive but great rods hard to find. There is nothing like the quality and feel of Fenwick's HMG and HMX.
I was also looking for something like what you wanted and all around rod (SPINNING). Long thin powerful trout, bull trout, to coho. Cast far from shore in a lake to sensitivity in rivers. Like damien said a 2 rod 1 reel couple of spools. I found, out of all my fenwicks the HMX 9 foot 6 4-10lbs HMX 962lmf. Very light and action medium fast so sensitive with titanium guides cork handles for $80-90 where can you go wrong. I have caught pan fish, trout, salmon, wanna try steelhead. Used it for spoons, spinners and bait. Great all around.

You won't get tired casting all day. I love my fenwick rods. As for reels get high end of any brand.

Another rod I get a lot of use is the St Croix panfish rod 10 foot 2-8lbs
My shortest rod is 7'6 HMX for creek fishing trout
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: KarateKick on September 27, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
I have a question about the "2 rods 1 reel" idea.  I've heard lots of people talk about the importance of the reel being a good match for the rod.  If you buy a reel for two different rods, would it be a compromised match for each rod?

I don't know how to match a reel to a rod, so I look only at combos.
Title: Re: versatile rod and reel
Post by: barklee on September 29, 2014, 12:36:46 AM
you do not use a trout rod with a sturgeon/halibut sized reel

look at the lure/line lbs on rod and match it to the min/max line on reel

ultralight use small reels because you don't need that much line also

2 to 1 means: one rod is 4-10lbs for trout the other is 8-17lbs for pink although I could also use the 4-10 for pinks also, I use a medium sized reel with 10lbs line and interchange for both rods.

you could also use a medium sized reel with a couple of spools with different line weights

these are ways to save money and time spooling and unspooling the reel

looking for combos is a good way to save money but you will never find a sage rod with shimano reel in combo section unless its a special or used

look at the combos for trout and sturgeon/halibut the sizes are totally different and are not interchangable.

the combos for large trout and salmon could be, basically match the rod/reel to what your are catching as well.