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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: rockonfishing on July 06, 2014, 03:25:42 PM

Title: guess whos fishing
Post by: rockonfishing on July 06, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
Interesting today saw many boats out with nets as I drove across the Golden Ears Bridge, I didn't realize commercial was open, or is this a native only fishery.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Rodney on July 06, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
FN communal openings.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: firstlight on July 06, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
So nobody else is fishing because of the low numbers of early Chinook but its ok to net the river for communal purposes?

Oh that's right,they do this every year. ::)
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Archer on July 06, 2014, 08:36:28 PM
Yup, saw them with the BIG nets floating down river in the Langley area last weekend and this weekend. Three words for you "CAUSE THEY CAN". Is it ok? Equal? Nope! Political, YES! 
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Humpy on July 06, 2014, 08:40:06 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: mikeyman on July 06, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
BS...all the closures and size restrictions put on to see the fish that we want to make it back to spawn get picked off in a native gill net. Why not wait for the numbers to go up in August sockeye time...what a joke.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Rodney on July 06, 2014, 09:55:39 PM
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Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Easywater on July 07, 2014, 06:10:52 AM
Chinook numbers in the Fraser are huge right now according to the Albion test fishery.

June 7 to July 7 2013 = 44 adult Chinook
June 7 to July 7 2014 = 358 adult Chinook

Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: TNAngler on July 07, 2014, 10:00:52 AM
I'm not surprised they are fishing but I am surprised the website isn't updated.  Wait, was this considered Middle and Upper Fraser?  It looks like there were publicized openings for special permits there (no update on the harvest report there).  Nothing in the lower Fraser but given the test numbers I doubt it will be long.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Rodney on July 07, 2014, 09:09:35 PM
I'm not surprised they are fishing but I am surprised the website isn't updated.  Wait, was this considered Middle and Upper Fraser?  It looks like there were publicized openings for special permits there (no update on the harvest report there).  Nothing in the lower Fraser but given the test numbers I doubt it will be long.

It's the Lower Fraser. The website should indeed be updated. I've sent in a note last night about it so will wait for a response.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: TNAngler on July 08, 2014, 08:03:40 AM
It's the Lower Fraser. The website should indeed be updated. I've sent in a note last night about it so will wait for a response.

Thanks Rod.  If the website isn't updated, how are people going to know whether they are fishing legally?  Sounds like there were so many of them and they were so out in the open that it was obvious but I've had one drift a net right down in front of a whole line of fisherman when they were supposed to be closed.  Poachers dont' always do it in hiding.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: Rodney on July 09, 2014, 09:46:32 AM
Thanks Rod.  If the website isn't updated, how are people going to know whether they are fishing legally?  Sounds like there were so many of them and they were so out in the open that it was obvious but I've had one drift a net right down in front of a whole line of fisherman when they were supposed to be closed.  Poachers dont' always do it in hiding.

I agree, that's why I am always pushing for the availability of correct information otherwise why even have the phone numbers for enforcement. The page is now updated (the previous openings page anyway, I guess new current openings have not been determined) and they are now aware of the problem, so hopefully it won't happen again, for awhile.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: TNAngler on July 09, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
I agree, that's why I am always pushing for the availability of correct information otherwise why even have the phone numbers for enforcement. The page is now updated (the previous openings page anyway, I guess new current openings have not been determined) and they are now aware of the problem, so hopefully it won't happen again, for awhile.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/fraser/abor-autoc-eng.html#Lower_Fraser_River

I laugh at your definition of "awhile" but thanks for keeping on it.  I will make sure the phone number for enforcement is saved in my phone, international calling charges  or not.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: rockonfishing on July 09, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
well while drive the south perimeter road both west and east I notice a vessel just west of the Surrey Docks and no it was a tug, so the natives keep going no consequences at all, while we wait and wait and wait, or I forgot that we also keep paying them for whatever our ancestors did to them many many many years ago.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: rockonfishing on July 09, 2014, 03:43:58 PM
no it was not a tug sorry misprint.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: TNAngler on July 10, 2014, 06:01:01 AM
Rod,

A quick search didn't tell me the best number to call to report violators.  Do you have it handy?
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: rockonfishing on July 10, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
no boats out today, check again Friday not sure why they get to fish ceremonial, then sell I just don't understand
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: SkagitDreamer on July 11, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
It's upsetting that native fishing for ceremony and food trumps sports fishing, as does indiscriminate commercial fishers. Guess those trucks filled with all types of salmon are 'ceremoniously' delivered to the highest bidder so they can buy tenderloin to eat?!? Respecting their salmon stock futures and Mother Earth isn't part of their culture anymore, apparently. Shrug. Sad state of affairs, indeed. The openings themselves seem shrouded from the general public.
Title: Re: guess whos fishing
Post by: VA7DDP on July 14, 2014, 10:57:23 PM
Rod,

A quick search didn't tell me the best number to call to report violators.  Do you have it handy?

For Non-Salmon Related offences; Contact the BC Conservation Officer Hotline at 1-877-952-7277 (RAPP)

For Salmon Related Offences; Contact the Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada at 1-800-465-4336.