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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodney on October 01, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
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The Tidal Fraser River (downstream from Mission's CPR Bridge) is open for coho salmon fishing on October 5th, 2013. Once again, this thread is designed to let members to provide updates on the fishing and water condition throughout the season.
Regulations
Please note that coho salmon fishing is closed and a bait ban for salmon fishing is in effect until October 4th.
Starting on October 5th, coho salmon fishing opens and bait ban will be lifted. You can use roe, krill, shrimp, ghost shrimp, dew worm and any natural bait or artificially scented bait for salmon. The daily quota for hatchery marked coho salmon is two fish per day during this opening. Please make sure you identify your fish correctly in the water first. All wild coho salmon have to be released.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2013/131001-2_zpsd55a367c.jpg)
Wild coho salmon (presence of the adipose fin)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2013/131001-1_zps911559f0.jpg)
Hatchery-marked coho salmon (absence of the adipose fin)
For trout and char, the daily quota is two hatchery marked fish. You will find some hatchery marked cutthroat trout. All bull trout are wild. Please release all wild cutthroat and bull trout carefully.
The above is just a general summary of the regulations, so you MUST check the Tidal Fraser River fishing regulations (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/fraser-eng.htm) before heading out as it may change from time to time.
Articles and Videos
A list of articles and videos have been compiled on this page (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/2013-09-30-tidal-fraser-river-coho-salmon-opening.html) for those who have never tried this fishery before.
This thread is started so everyone can post updates throughout the season. Please do not ask for updates.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the good informative jobs Rod.
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Rodney,
I think you are mistyping the title, should be 2013 not 2012. ;D
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Thanks, fixed now.
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anyone know where this fishing spot is approximately(is in richmond,not sure if on riverroad somewhere?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkMNRH5uJ4
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anyone know where this fishing spot is approximately(is in richmond,not sure if on riverroad somewhere?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkMNRH5uJ4
How about go out for a drive and explore for yourself? ::)
Not everything should be asked on a public forum.
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Are you sure it is the 5th and not the 4th?
Other sites said river open on 4th, haven't seen the fishery notice.
Or maybe rod is trying to get the river all to himself on Friday...hmmmm
Something fishy going on
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anyone know where this fishing spot is approximately
Yep.
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Are you sure it is the 5th and not the 4th?
Other sites said river open on 4th, haven't seen the fishery notice.
Or maybe rod is trying to get the river all to himself on Friday...hmmmm
Something fishy going on
Yes, because my goal is to keep the entire Lower Mainland angling population off the river for one day so I can have it to myself. ::)
Best to get the correct information from the source.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/fraser-eng.htm
Coho:
No retention of coho until October 4, 2013. The use of bait and fishing for coho is prohibited September 3 - October 4, 2013.
October 5 - December 31, 2013: 2 hatchery-marked coho.
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So there is the problem. In the same statement dfo says both 4th and 5th. Silly dfo.
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What?
Read the regulations.
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So there is the problem. In the same statement dfo says both 4th and 5th. Silly dfo.
That's DFO for you. They can't get their own facts straight, yet they expect anglers to comply with their regulations.
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Coho:
No retention of coho until October 4, 2013. The use of bait and fishing for coho is prohibited September 3 - October 4, 2013.
October 5 - December 31, 2013: 2 hatchery-marked coho.
That would mean you could retain a Coho on the 4th correct?
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ok I must have woken up on a different planet this morning...
No retention of coho until October 4, 2013. The use of bait and fishing for coho is prohibited September 3 - October 4, 2013. = You cannot keep coho and use bait until October 4th.
October 5 - December 31, 2013: 2 hatchery-marked coho. = From October 5th to December 31st, you can keep two hatchery-marked coho salmon.
And if that is not clear enough, lets take a look at the fishery notice for the opening.
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=153536&ID=recreational
Coho:
No retention of coho is permitted effective immediately until 23:59 Friday,
October 4, 2013.
The use of bait and fishing for coho is prohibited from 00:01 Tuesday,
September 3, 2013 to 23:59 Friday, October 4, 2013.
Effective 00:01 hours Saturday, October 5, 2013 until 23:59 hours Tuesday,
December 31, 2013 the daily limit is two (2) hatchery-marked coho.
A hatchery-marked coho is a coho salmon with a healed scar in place of the
adipose fin.
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Yes until October 4th, October 4th starts at 12:00 am, I read it as you can retain a fish on the 4th.
I am not going to retain a fish but that's what is reads to me.
It does say that you cant use bait thru October 4th.
They should get all their notices in sync. Leaves things to interpretation.
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Lol, it's all semantics here. The problem is that the word "until" usually isn't inclusive of the time or date. Example, "I won't be back to work until Friday" generally means you'll be back on Friday. DFO should have stated "No retention of coho up to and including October 4, 2013."
This is the fisheries department, not the English department haha. I think there's another funny one from DFO about transporting live fish being illegal. Well, last time I checked, hundreds to thousands of people transport live fish daily from aquarium stores and/or seafood markets to their home :P They could make a killing standing outside a pet store ;D
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Similar to when I was learning to drive my instructor kept saying next turn go right. Well I thought he meant NEXT turn as opposed to the one coming up so I kept missing my turns and he couldn't understand why.
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So for those that dont understand the dfo notice it basically says this.
Effective 00:01 hours Saturday, October 5, 2013.....coho retention starts and the bait ban is lifted on the lower(tidal) fraser river.
hatchery or adipose fin clipped only.
October 4th is a bad day to get a ticket or fine.
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When is non tidal opening up for retention of coho?
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When is non tidal opening up for retention of coho?
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/fresh-douce/region2-eng.html
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Was out there on a couple hours Sunday morning bottom fishing with my roe. Had one pull he drag 5-7 ft but by the time I got the rod up it was gone. Water was murky and weather was raining on and off.
Going to keep trying when I can't make it up to the Vedder though.
Anyone had any luck yet?
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The season had a slow start since the opening day but the last few days have been pretty good. Today we picked up a few beautiful fish, all wild so released of course. There was also quite a bit of surface activity.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2013/10/09/a-good-day-at-last/
Water clarity is pretty good. Visibility is sitting at around 3ft or more, perfect for spincasting and fly fishing if you don't want to fish with bait.
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Made it out before the dentist this morning in new west and got a 4-5 pound hatchery doe. I was the only one fishing the area and it was great! Was there from Around 8-9:20, using silver and pink crocs.
Good luck out there!
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Fished this morning, 2 wild coho to shore, 2 small things that jumped splashed and buggered off and 3 more wild coho that spat the hook. All using a super secret spinney thing that flashes.
Around 10am the riff raff started cruising the river, tide started coming in and water clarity when from a good 2ft to 8inches and that was it for fishing.
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From various reports and my observations during the week, water clarity has degraded in the past few days, most likely due to rain in Northern BC. This is pretty typical for this time of the year, and the river will likely to remain dirty for at least a week before it recovers. It always takes longer for a large system such as the Fraser River to recover. In the meantime, fishing with roe should still work nicely, while spin casting will be a little bit more challenging.
I've also been getting numerous reports of people who attempted to retain a wild coho salmon. Some simply are not aware of the difference between a wild and a hatchery coho salmon, while others are well aware of the regulations yet choose to break them. Please educate those who lack the information, as I did during the week to a Chinese couple who did not know how to identify a coho salmon but were well informed after being shown what a wild coho salmon look like and why only hatchery-marked coho salmon can be kept. To those who are well aware of the information yet choose to ignore it, we should all be demanding them to release their wild coho salmon as my peers did today in North Arm. We should also emphasize the importance of wild coho salmon conservation to change the mind of those who seem to think their actions have no negative implication on the resource. While we cannot change the attitude of everyone, I'm sure some will learn and do the right thing. For the rest who continue to ignore the rules, please phone DFO's ORR line at 1-800-465-4336 to report them.
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Yup - spent from 1:30 until 5:30. Nothing but one hit on my spinner. The roe guys around I saw only 2 fish to the beach and not a lot of bouncing rods either....
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lots of bites but only one hook up with a wild coho jack early in the AM. I think the majority of my bites are scavenging fishes..
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Does anyone know if Dyke Rd. is at all productive for bar fishing for Coho? Went out the other day and not a soul in sight and the only thing that bit were sculpins. Would the dump bar be a better alternative?
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Does anyone know if Dyke Rd. is at all productive for bar fishing for Coho? Went out the other day and not a soul in sight and the only thing that bit were sculpins. Would the dump bar be a better alternative?
Give dump bar a try and let us know :)
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Was out this morning, tidal fraser, usual 6-9 shift. Caught 1 wild, 1 hatch, and 1 chum. Photo is of the wild.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MMace/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps72a2ec69.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/MMace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps72a2ec69.jpg.html)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MMace/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsed4b80b8.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/MMace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsed4b80b8.jpg.html)
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Nice work!
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I've had no luck at all on the tidal fraser! But there are still a fair number of coho coming through, had a buddy out on a gill netter yesterday and they released quite a few
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I caught 6 total on the tidal today from shore. Few yesterday as well.
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right now it has been prime time for me as me and a buddy have been targeting bull trouts... and there are lots.... lower fraser river.... hooked up to the odd coho and a huge chum. largest bull trout landed was a 19 inch fish while buddy landed a 21 inch bull trout the following day. 8) 8) 8)
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^^ thats awesome bull trout are one of the coolest looking fish imo, got a couple big ones this year in the squam when hunting pinks
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Wouldn't mind catching a bull trout any tips? Do u fish them in the main channel?
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Funny speaking of bull trout I caught one about 18inch on some fire cured roe, awsome fish! I was fishing northarm (vancouver)
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Lots of articles etc on this page about bull trout fishing in the Tidal Fraser River:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/2013-09-30-tidal-fraser-river-coho-salmon-opening.html
Catch and release only, no retention of bull trout allowed as there are no hatchery marked fish.
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Thnx rod
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I've had bull trout chase my lures many times, but I never landed one. Yesterday, I used a Blue Fox Foxee jig and it gulped down the lure near the surface and spat it out right away.
I still haven't landed a single coho for this month and I feel like giving up.
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I went this morning, didn't catch anything but saw a couple rise at Duncan bar. Really relaxing, nothing better. Giver a go its better than sitting in fount of the boob tube.
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Spent a few hours around Alex Fraser bridge and again at dapper ton park. No luck, dead calm on the water. Relaxing either way tho. Not sure if it is done for the Fraser or just a lull between pushes.
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Definitely seems to be getting slower but they are out there. The best bites are likely at dusk, dawn, and tide changes (I believe the incoming and high tide are the better). Been out myself with less luck than usually for the coho but definitely saw lots of chums jumping further out. Should be running through the tidal until early December. The lull is likely because several reasons, one I can think of being the weather change with fore coming rains.