Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: pwn50m3 f15h3r on September 11, 2013, 08:55:45 PM
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We should always have one of these threads on at one time.
Here are some of my recent ties
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zps6a91630e.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zpsd1060086.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zps8f2e138d.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zps34e2379e.jpg)
Feel free to post your recent ties here.
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your flies are looking pretty good.
did you use 2 separate cameras ? the last pic is so nice and clear while the rest are very blurry
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No, all on my iPhone. I dunno Y pics R blurry.
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nice looking flies....
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No, all on my iPhone. I dunno Y pics R blurry.
Not enough light. Take them outside.
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(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zps83972fe8.jpg)
First intruder......what do you think?
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Looks like an effective chum fly.
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Looks like an effective chum fly.
Thanks! I was thinking steelhead but maybe chum would also take that.
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Second intruder
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/image_zpsba751039.jpg)
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looks good, slightly over dressed which will make if tough to cast with all that marabou.
try and get a slimmer profile and put a bump behind the long stuff to create the umbrella effect
couple examples:
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/clearsquidro-1_zps05aeb2f0.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/clearsquidro-1_zps05aeb2f0.jpg.html)(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20130228_231510_zps8acafa34.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20130228_231510_zps8acafa34.jpg.html)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/lowclear_zpsa48fbcdc.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/lowclear_zpsa48fbcdc.jpg.html)
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No, all on my iPhone. I dunno Y pics R blurry.
The blurry ones are close ups where your subject (the flies) are too close and so are outside your depth of field (no macro setting?). The clear pic is from a bit further away so the auto focus is able to clearly focus on them. There also appear to be more light in the clear image so the shutter speed was quicker and compensated for any hand motion.
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looks good, slightly over dressed which will make if tough to cast with all that marabou.
try and get a slimmer profile and put a bump behind the long stuff to create the umbrella effect
Can't see clearly but second one has profile bump in back and a stiff hackle wrapped under marabou.
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stiff hackle wont prop as well as tying in tightly to a bump of dubbing, chenille.......etc
Stiff hackle works really well for flies where there is no rear section. normally you want the front area to profile as large or large than the rear area.
just keep this in mind when your tying Intruder style - LESS IS MORE - I know it sounds counter productive but the less material the easier it sinks and better it moves in the water. doing things like stripping one side of certain feathers or only using a couple wraps are the easiest way to cut down on bulk. Maribou is the worst for bulk, 3 turns of it is usually plenty unless you strip one side then you can do a couple more
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ive been practicing some tying these days. had some marabou (green and pink) and some schlappen (blue) so i decided to tie some flys with them. i palmered both and added some pink tinsel and uv yarn here and there
i'm going fishing on monday to try them out going to take the fly rod and try these out
i hear chum like big ugly flies, so i guess these should work hahahahah :P ::)
would love your feedback on how/what to improve.
the ones on the left far are tied on plastic tubes i scrounged.
(http://i.imgur.com/4ZnSuiM.jpg)
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why the foam heads ? or were you trying to create bass poppers
Most of those are very heavily dressed with marabou and wont sink quickly but will have decent movement, remember "less is more".
If you can get those flies deep enough then they should work. Try squeezing out all the air before casting them out the first, basically pre-soaking the marabou otherwise it will float on the surface until your sink tip sucks it under
example - the bottom fly I posted has only 2-3 turns of marabou and used from the tip end using only the long thin fibres. It also has, if I remember correctly around 20 strands of white ostrich. The 2-3 turns of white marabou was put in only to help fill out the profile to achieve the effect I was going for.
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why the foam heads ? or were you trying to create bass poppers
thanks for the tip,
i was trying to copy this fly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVy-2KnIuBo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVy-2KnIuBo),
are foam heads only for poppers or do they serve some other function other than being attractant?
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I watched the video, sort of and I cant see the point of the foam head except to push water the same as a plastic cone would without adding weight however the foam would help make it float so perhaps this pattern is meant for "chugging or waking" across the surface.
if you want your fly subsurface this style probably wont track very nice because the foam head will lift while the hook at the back will sink causing your fly to ride at a 45 degree angle instead of level (ish) with the river bottom
Foam for the most part is used to keep the fly ON the waters surface. go back on youtube and look up skating flies for steelhead ;)
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if you want your fly subsurface this style probably wont track very nice because the foam head will lift while the hook at the back will sink causing your fly to ride at a 45 degree angle instead of level (ish) with the river bottom
Foam for the most part is used to keep the fly ON the waters surface.
yup, this is what happened. the foam actually expanded a little and the fly pretty much rode on the surface or just below. the hook was hardly any weight compared to the foam and so it was riding level.
I took off the foam and then it sank, and got a couple fish to follow it... but no takers.
spent 6 hours on the squam trying every fly i tied and several store bought ones, nothing worked, although they looked real pretty in the water. ;)
most likely i must have still been doing something wrong. will try some more next time
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try making a purple flash bugger.
purple marabou tail - just tie in a clump. tie it the length of the hook shank and add 2 strands of flash on either side
body - Purple crystal chenille (medium would be the best size)
hackle - really pointless but if you want to add it then try a purple or black saddle hackle feather. tie it in so the longer fibres are at the head. take 1 or 2 full turns at the head also
bead - I myself would use hot orange, red or chartreuse however any colour would be fine. size 1/8" should suffice, smaller if you fishing shallower water or just use a lighter sink tip
im assuming your chasing after the chum in the Squamish which is why I suggest this fly.
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try making a purple flash bugger.
purple marabou tail - just tie in a clump. tie it the length of the hook shank and add 2 strands of flash on either side
body - Purple crystal chenille (medium would be the best size)
hackle - really pointless but if you want to add it then try a purple or black saddle hackle feather. tie it in so the longer fibres are at the head. take 1 or 2 full turns at the head also
bead - I myself would use hot orange, red or chartreuse however any colour would be fine. size 1/8" should suffice, smaller if you fishing shallower water or just use a lighter sink tip
im assuming your chasing after the chum in the Squamish which is why I suggest this fly.
This fly has been surprisingly effective for coho in a small local stream I have been fishing too. I tied one on to see if I could get one of the many chum I could see rolling to bite, instead I got repeated hook ups of nice coho . It was a pleasant surprise. I have been using it ever since and have gotten as many takes on it as I have in the white or olive sparkle buggers.
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try making a purple flash bugger.
purple marabou tail - just tie in a clump. tie it the length of the hook shank and add 2 strands of flash on either side
body - Purple crystal chenille (medium would be the best size)
hackle - really pointless but if you want to add it then try a purple or black saddle hackle feather. tie it in so the longer fibres are at the head. take 1 or 2 full turns at the head also
bead - I myself would use hot orange, red or chartreuse however any colour would be fine. size 1/8" should suffice, smaller if you fishing shallower water or just use a lighter sink tip
im assuming your chasing after the chum in the Squamish which is why I suggest this fly.
thanks hook!
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This fly has been surprisingly effective for coho in a small local stream I have been fishing too. I tied one on to see if I could get one of the many chum I could see rolling to bite, instead I got repeated hook ups of nice coho . It was a pleasant surprise. I have been using it ever since and have gotten as many takes on it as I have in the white or olive sparkle buggers.
SHHHH !!! your not supposed to let the cat out :)
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SHHHH !!! your not supposed to let the cat out :)
What? No...I meant my other right.
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Steelhead fly, took me 1 hour to tie
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8d7f71d2.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0894bada.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6e3b56ad.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6c064f35.jpg)
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Not bad, especially if your new to tying or tying big steely flies.
This took me approximately 10-15mins - prepping your materials before you tie helps cut down the tying time considerably especially if you plan on tying a few of the same pattern
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131118_223259_zps3a08d900.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131118_223259_zps3a08d900.jpg.html)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131118_223206_zps308d8ee2.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131118_223206_zps308d8ee2.jpg.html)
If your new to tying these sorts of flies then tie only 1 when your combining materials. take them to the sink or bathtub and watch how they swim.
Here is a pic of one I tied yesterday and tossed in the sink. As you can see it has a good medium to large profile and will keep shape in the current.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131129_134543_zps2c4a580b.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131129_134543_zps2c4a580b.jpg.html)
Both of those flies utilize pretty cheap tying materials but are "built" to keep shape and have a lot of movement in the water. When it comes to these "less is more" is what you have to remember. Too much material and it wont move well with the current and also wont sink quickly at all.
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Not bad, especially if your new to tying or tying big steely flies.
This took me approximately 10-15mins - prepping your materials before you tie helps cut down the tying time considerably especially if you plan on tying a few of the same pattern
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131118_223259_zps3a08d900.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131118_223259_zps3a08d900.jpg.html)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131118_223206_zps308d8ee2.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131118_223206_zps308d8ee2.jpg.html)
If your new to tying these sorts of flies then tie only 1 when your combining materials. take them to the sink or bathtub and watch how they swim.
Here is a pic of one I tied yesterday and tossed in the sink. As you can see it has a good medium to large profile and will keep shape in the current.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/20131129_134543_zps2c4a580b.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Flaming_Hook/media/20131129_134543_zps2c4a580b.jpg.html)
Both of those flies utilize pretty cheap tying materials but are "built" to keep shape and have a lot of movement in the water. When it comes to these "less is more" is what you have to remember. Too much material and it wont move well with the current and also wont sink quickly at all.
I am quite new to tying, just started on April. I also test my flies, but in my fish tank. I do not think that I will be tying some more.
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Where are you located ?
if your close to Langley I could show/explain to you how and why things are put together the way they are for flies like this.
If your not then email me your number and we chat or text if you want some help shortening the learning curve.
I am on my 4 or 5th season tying these type of steelhead flies and while I may know some stuff I'm always learning new things myself which is what keeps tying interesting. I used to just tie and fish easy stuff like MOAL leeches, Popsicles, other rabbit leech kind of things and the good old Egg Sucking leech.
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Not that close to Langley. I mostly tie these steelhead flies for fun as a rarely have the chance to go fishing for them because of school.
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Not that close to Langley. I mostly tie these steelhead flies for fun as a rarely have the chance to go fishing for them because of school.
Ok. Well feel free to email me your number and I can help you out if you want tips/tricks. If you have a smart phone I can even send pics to help explain things
A buddy of mine and myself have started a blog as well. He does the articles while I do the tying so far. I have done a step by step on the top fly and will be doing another in the next couple weeks on budget conscious Intruder style flies.
http://funonthefly.blogspot.ca/
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So this isn't what you were thinking?
(https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/61/ac/5f61acd2381442486b35a72498c8bc3b.jpg)
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So this isn't what you were thinking?
(https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/61/ac/5f61acd2381442486b35a72498c8bc3b.jpg)
Ian you will need to elaborate more because I don't get the reference ???
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A buddy of mine and myself have started a blog as well. He does the articles while I do the tying so far. I have done a step by step on the top fly and will be doing another in the next couple weeks on budget conscious Intruder style flies.
http://funonthefly.blogspot.ca/
i knew i saw that fly somewhere! bookmarking that blog so i dont lose it again ;)
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Ian you will need to elaborate more because I don't get the reference ???
Look at that thing tied around her neck... That is what most people call a "tie".
I'm known for making silly replies.
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trust me Ian I know very well of your method of replying. You have had me almost in tears a few times on FlyBC with some of your antics :o
Thanks for the bookmark - there will be another SbS coming in a couple weeks. Finding time to tie flies with 2 & 4yr old boys can get tough especially when I'm trying to take photos of every step. My buddy Chris does the written articles and I do the tying.
sidenote - My 4yr old did ask me the other day to start showing him how to make flies. Both my kids love fishing but my oldest seems to really have the passion for it ;D
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More flies...
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfc947a2d.jpg)
Mayfly emerger
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps800bf503.jpg)
More mayfly nymphs
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps83d3977b.jpg)
Caddis dries
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpscf09ebbe.jpg)
Other dries+an emerger
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6145f4bf.jpg)
Leeches
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsef19c5ca.jpg)
Chironomids
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Messing around with a 45mm waddington shank(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p717/60iler4/20140217_200506_LLS_zpsdu2mism7.jpg)(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p717/60iler4/20140217_200542_LLS_zps3bn6b7qx.jpg)(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p717/60iler4/20140217_200646_LLS_zpsuqbcfvqz.jpg)
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Spring break creations.....
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps1a6c18ab.jpg)
Purple haze
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd6d1113b.jpg)
Wooly worm
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf6aea8a5.jpg)
Chironomid (inspired by HOOK)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0cd16f1a.jpg)
Needlefish
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps81e367bf.jpg)
Minnow (Inspired by Rodney)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb9d9ee6e.jpg)
Beck's super bugger
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4155a165.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsce586288.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps2ba2b395.jpg)
Intruder variation I have been playing with
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps90bac758.jpg)
Peacock herl chromie
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps384bcd7f.jpg)
Moose hair nymph
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One more fly...
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag106/Epik_Winner/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zps58150d94.jpg)
I call it the steelie's speyface night invader. (25% Intruder, 50% steelie's nightmare, 10% black Spey, 15% bouface.)