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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: casinoJim on May 30, 2004, 10:37:54 AM

Title: Lickman road
Post by: casinoJim on May 30, 2004, 10:37:54 AM
I'm a looking for a map of the Lickman road area. Thinking about doin some bbouncin.

Gotta map?? do ya share?

appreciate it.
CJ
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Fish Assassin on May 30, 2004, 05:07:48 PM
Bottom bouncing is not the problem; the length of the leader is.  There is situations where BB is both desirable and effective. One does not ban driving just because there are accidents.
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: otto on May 30, 2004, 07:05:08 PM
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Post by: dead head on May 30, 2004, 07:18:18 PM
oh now >:(
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Randog on May 30, 2004, 08:24:53 PM
AAHH yes, yet another hi-jacked thread on the FWR site. ::) ;D
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Fishin Freak on May 30, 2004, 09:00:16 PM
If your doing some BB wait until the fall for any sort of good production around that area. I don't always condone bb but if your honestly going to do it fall is the time!
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: otto on May 30, 2004, 09:17:25 PM
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Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Fish Assassin on May 30, 2004, 10:21:19 PM
As of right now it is legal. As to whether it is ethical, that depends on who you talk to ! That sums it pretty well I think.
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Fishin Freak on May 30, 2004, 10:22:53 PM
I think you know everyone will say it's neither legal or ethical. I think the legality comes into bb with what intent you do it in. If you intend to go out and snag fish it's illegal, but you if think there biting you bait it's not. Some people will have a hard time swallowing that but fish do bit while bb, and it of course depends greatly on leader length. You decide, it can be a tough call to make or easy for others what way to go.
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: otto on May 30, 2004, 10:28:09 PM
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Post by: otto on May 30, 2004, 10:36:46 PM
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Post by: otto on May 30, 2004, 10:47:22 PM
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Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Rodney on May 30, 2004, 10:55:35 PM
Back to answering CJ's question:

The Chilliwack River is closed starting June 1st and will reopen on July 1st. In July and part of August, you will be able to enjoy some fantastic red spring salmon fishery. Starting around late August, early September, the odd coho will show up in the system. By the end of September and early October, coho fishing will start to peak and will be excellent during the first two weeks of October. During that time until the end of November, you'll also encounter white spring as well as chum salmon. From December until next April, it'll be winter steelhead once again.

Lickman Road is just one of the many popular locations along the Vedder that you may want to try out. From the Lickman Road parking lot, you can walk either up or down the Rotary Trail and access numerous prime fishing spots.

Re: Bottom Bouncing.

The objective of bottom bouncing is normally to reach the fish at waters that are too deep to fish with a float. The term bottom bouncing has evolved since the beginning of the Fraser River sockeye fishery as individuals started to discover that fish are easier to catch when leader length is increased. This method is now known as "flossing". At the same time, it also increases the likelihood of fish being foul hooked, etc. The common debate is whether the fish is actually biting in this method or if they are being foul hooked. I think the true issue is, whether we are increasing the mortality of the fish that we are releasing after being fouled or not. If that is the case, maybe it is wiser to use other methods to reduce the chance of foul hooking a fish in fisheries that you maybe releasing lots of fish? Other issues that may get people fired up when "BB" is brought up include:

BBers tend to take up huge pieces of drift water.

BBers leave large amount of lead on the riverbed as they are likely to snag up more often than others.

The overall mentality that revolves around BBing. The social aspect, ie. the gold rush effect in the infamous Fraser River sockeye fishery, which often results in tension between anglers, etc.

That's all folks, hope the above information helps. :)
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: otto on May 31, 2004, 12:10:17 AM
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Post by: chris gadsden on May 31, 2004, 12:27:10 AM
wow.....thanks Rodney for all the information on this. me thinks i'll stick to float fishing, fly fishing and   spinner fishing!!  ;D ;D
Good Man Otto. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: rerigger on May 31, 2004, 05:34:38 AM
well personally i will continue to bottom bounce because it works  and it is fun

sitting in a lawn chair drinking beer well waiting for the bell to ring is fine for trolling the gulf  but boring on the banks and bars of the fraser

as long as our native brothers are allowed to fish their set nets and bottom bouncing is legal i will continue and loose no sleep over it .

sorry to upset you pureists but thats how i feel
good luck working on your BBs (beer bellies)
 8) :'( :) :D ;D >:(

Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: Sandy on May 31, 2004, 06:00:13 PM
I've always understood that flossing was using an extremly long leader in order to foul hook.I sure hope that anyone that foul hooks a fish returns it to the water ::).
several countries actualy define foul hooking by where a fish is hooked even if hooked in certain parts of the mouth.this is taking elitist garbage to the next level.
C.J. Fred's Tackle in Sardis used to have a map to hand out to new to the sport/area give them a try.
Title: Re:Lickman road
Post by: The Gilly on June 03, 2004, 03:33:25 PM
The origional question was for maps of the Lickman road area.  There are some around I suggest going for a drive on the dykes and exploring.  Freds sells maps of the Vedder as well.  As for bottom bouncing.  good luck.  There are very few areas on the Vedder that are suitable.  Rig up a sliding float for the really deep pools. :)