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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: ynot on October 11, 2012, 08:04:11 PM

Title: fraser chum run
Post by: ynot on October 11, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
Looking at the albion test fishery and over 600 chum in 1 set,i have never seen such numbers. how big is this run?
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: NiceFish on October 11, 2012, 08:49:06 PM
Atleast 600
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: ynot on October 11, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Wrong 2897 netted so far.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: NiceFish on October 11, 2012, 09:07:09 PM
Well I'm not wrong, I said atleast 600
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Tex on October 11, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
Atleast 600

LMAO!!!!!!!  Wicked response.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: rjs on October 12, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
i think he meant this
                                                                                  
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Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Every Day on October 12, 2012, 06:46:35 PM
Atleast 600

Thank you for that laugh I very much needed  :D
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: silver ghost on October 12, 2012, 09:39:50 PM
Atleast 600

nailed it


Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: dcajaxs on October 13, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Indications are of a strong run, is there a webpage from dfo from what the total predicted run size will be?
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: azafai on October 14, 2012, 01:37:37 PM



Albion's Daily Catch Test Report for the last month.
October, 13, 2011  resut:  Total 558 Chums,.....................Cohos Total 229.................Spings Total 285
October, 13, 2012  resut: Total 4370   Chums,.................Cohos Total 158................Springs Total 86


http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fos2_Internet/Testfish/rptdtfdparm.cfm?fsub_id=227.


As for chums not only Fraser but other systems too are doing better this year.

Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bigblockfox on October 14, 2012, 05:44:09 PM
lots of chum moving up the vedder. pound for pound hardest fighting fish.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: ynot on October 16, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
springs are much harder to land.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Sandman on October 16, 2012, 09:10:42 PM
springs are much harder to land.

True, but Springs do not put on the acrobatic performance of a fresh chum either.  Chum jump like a coho but can dog it like a Spring, however they just don't have the staying power of the chinook and tend to give up sooner.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: azafai on October 17, 2012, 12:26:12 PM


I agree to that pound to pound point regarding chums compared to all other salmons.
chums are one of the best fighters. unfortunately they are widely under appreciated fish by lots of anglers. 

Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bigblockfox on October 17, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
springs are much harder to land.

i said pound for pound, springs usually just continue up stream like nothing every happened after they have been hooked.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Silex-user on October 17, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Good to see the chum numbers are high again. Good for eco-systems.



Silex-user
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Rodney on October 25, 2012, 01:41:44 AM
For those who are interested in how the Fraser River chum salmon run is coming along this year compared to past several seasons, here is a brief overview that I've written up after being briefed by local DFO managers.

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/2012-10-24-good-news-for-fraser-river-chum-salmon.html
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: dcajaxs on October 25, 2012, 06:01:54 AM
For those who are interested in how the Fraser River chum salmon run is coming along this year compared to past several seasons, here is a brief overview that I've written up after being briefed by local DFO managers.

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/2012-10-24-good-news-for-fraser-river-chum-salmon.html

thanks Rod for the information,
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bluenoser on October 25, 2012, 08:39:12 PM
So all those boats on the Fraser today must have been First nations.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on October 25, 2012, 09:13:01 PM
So all those boats on the Fraser today must have been First nations.

No their was a commercial opening. Just spoke to a friend who was working on his uncles boat today. He said they got tons of fish.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Rodney on October 26, 2012, 01:20:58 AM
Not sure if the boats you saw around Golden Ears are commercial, as I can't seem to find the notice for that. The only commercial opening that I am aware of yesterday took place outside Steveston (Fraser River mouth) and there are economic opportunities for First Nations taking place downstream from Port Mann, as well as between the confluence of Sumas and Agassiz bridge. It'll affect the chum salmon fishing, but shouldn't (or hopefully) affect the coho salmon fishing too much.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: cutthroat22 on October 26, 2012, 01:25:03 AM
Commies were all over Triangle Road area as well.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: ICA on October 26, 2012, 07:18:28 AM
Fellas, I was on the Fraser on Wednesday thinking I could launch from Island 22 and head to one of the bars, but FN fishery was in full swing and they were all over the place. As a result, even the guides ended up bringing their clients to the mouth of the Harrison, resulting in a lot of boats huddles into one small section at the confluence. Lots of chums and many fresh ones too.

Does anyone know how long will this opening go for and whether it would be a few more days before the Chum numbers go back up again. I am trying to buildup my roe supply and therefore after Chum.

Tight lines guys!
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bluenoser on October 26, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
Do the First nations and the Commercial fisheries target Chum for the Roe only?

BN
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: adriaticum on October 26, 2012, 11:32:14 AM
Yesterday commie boats where everywhere in the lower Fraser
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: salmonlover on October 26, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
Do the First nations and the Commercial fisheries target Chum for the Roe only?

BN

look at the comment above you, and you should get your answer. most people (not all) only view chum as good for roe.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: canso on October 26, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Not sure if the boats you saw around Golden Ears are commercial, as I can't seem to find the notice for that. The only commercial opening that I am aware of yesterday took place outside Steveston (Fraser River mouth) and there are economic opportunities for First Nations taking place downstream from Port Mann, as well as between the confluence of Sumas and Agassiz bridge. It'll affect the chum salmon fishing, but shouldn't (or hopefully) affect the coho salmon fishing too much.

there was 8 commercial boats between Fort langley and the Stave. this morning I saw 3 at first light, they were gone on the ride home in the afternoon. maybe just a 24hr opening
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: aaron.az on October 26, 2012, 05:09:46 PM
Least a dozen past the skytrain bridge and Patullo.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: ICA on October 26, 2012, 07:36:39 PM
Fellas, allow me to clarify my comment that I was looking for Chums to build up by roe stock; I do eat Chum when they are fresh, and would never catch one just for the roe and then dump the fish itself. Thats just me and I am not implying anything about others who might do things differently.

Tight lines fellas and enjoy but respect the wonderful fishery we are all blessed with. Take only what we NEED!
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: chris gadsden on October 26, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
Fellas, allow me to clarify my comment that I was looking for Chums to build up by roe stock; I do eat Chum when they are fresh, and would never catch one just for the roe and then dump the fish itself. Thats just me and I am not implying anything about others who might do things differently.

Tight lines fellas and enjoy but respect the wonderful fishery we are all blessed with. Take only what we NEED!
Yes I kept 2 fresh run chum and smoked them both , most of it have been eaten by family in 3 days, very good, maybe it is my smoking ability. ;D
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: bcguy on October 26, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
there was 8 commercial boats between Fort Langley and the Stave. this morning I saw 3 at first light, they were gone on the ride home in the afternoon. maybe just a 24hr opening
Was out last night just outside of Fort Langley, and saw at least 3 commercial Boats.
I don't know, but it just feels disheartening to see, should this scale of netting be allowed on a river?
I am allowed Hatchery Coho as a sports fisherman, fair enough, lets do our best to perserve the wild population, but what does this commercial fishery do to the rest of the stocks (by catch)other than Chum, like wild Coho, and I would assume Thompson Steelies (could be wrong) but really? If you are not skilled enough to get them in the ocean with a net,,,(we condemn the guys long lining in a hole on the Veddar), but really...what does more lasting and seriously impacting damage? What is it with society that we seem to have so such difficultly putting things in perspective? Says Bob to his buddy..I NEVER BB for Sockeye on the Fraser..so unethical...says Bobs buddy..I know why cant they just buy a netted fish from Steveston or Superstore...so much more ethical (not trying to start a discussion on BB)...any one else here see the hypocrisy here? or maybe I am just off base regarding netting on Fraser this far up
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: chris gadsden on October 26, 2012, 08:08:21 PM
Was out last night just outside of Fort Langley, and saw at least 3 commercial Boats.
I don't know, but it just feels disheartening to see, should this scale of netting be allowed on a river?
I am allowed Hatchery Coho as a sports fisherman, fair enough, lets do our best to perserve the wild population, but what does this commercial fishery do to the rest of the stocks (by catch)other than Chum, like wild Coho, and I would assume Thompson Steelies (could be wrong) but really? If you are not skilled enough to get them in the ocean with a net,,,(we condemn the guys long lining in a hole on the Veddar), but really...what does more lasting and seriously impacting damage? What is it with society that we seem to have so such difficultly putting things in perspective? Says Bob to his buddy..I NEVER BB for Sockeye on the Fraser..so unethical...says Bobs buddy..I know why cant they just buy a netted fish from Steveston or Superstore...so much more ethical (not trying to start a discussion on BB)...any one else here see the hypocrisy here? or maybe I am just off base regarding netting on Fraser this far up
Got off topic so deleted it here may place it in a proper spot.
CG
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: dereke on October 27, 2012, 03:45:32 PM
Was out last night just outside of Fort Langley, and saw at least 3 commercial Boats.
I don't know, but it just feels disheartening to see, should this scale of netting be allowed on a river?
I am allowed Hatchery Coho as a sports fisherman, fair enough, lets do our best to perserve the wild population, but what does this commercial fishery do to the rest of the stocks (by catch)other than Chum, like wild Coho, and I would assume Thompson Steelies (could be wrong) but really? If you are not skilled enough to get them in the ocean with a net,,,(we condemn the guys long lining in a hole on the Veddar), but really...what does more lasting and seriously impacting damage? What is it with society that we seem to have so such difficultly putting things in perspective? Says Bob to his buddy..I NEVER BB for Sockeye on the Fraser..so unethical...says Bobs buddy..I know why cant they just buy a netted fish from Steveston or Superstore...so much more ethical (not trying to start a discussion on BB)...any one else here see the hypocrisy here? or maybe I am just off base regarding netting on Fraser this far up

I know you derailing but I completely agree. Sorry to add to it Rodney...
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: EZ_Rolling on October 27, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
In the big picture it is way more efficient to net the river as the expenses would be far less and way more profitable than spending a week on the ocean. I do not like it either but in today's world profit seems to win over common sence.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: fishman254 on October 28, 2012, 01:53:38 PM
We fished the last 3 days, and I've NEVER seen that many First Nations activity on the Fraser this time of year, near the Harrison. They were making run after run back to their Harrison base camp with containers of fish. It's a good problem to have, though.
Not many coho seen on the Harrison, but tons of chums.
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: BNF861 on October 28, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
How many " food and ceremonial" fish can one family eat? 

If I'm not mistaken the native fishing going on is not considered "food and ceremonial" it's considered an "economical opportunity"
Title: Re: fraser chum run
Post by: Rodney on October 28, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken the native fishing going on is not considered "food and ceremonial" it's considered an "economical opportunity"

That's correct. Fish caught in this fishery are to be sold.