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Title: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: chris gadsden on April 22, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
I guess they were not as good as every one thought or was it because one key player missed 3 game?

I imagine the goaltender that was on the bench tonight has put on the Vancouver jersey for the last time. I am working with the Leafs to take him of your hands. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: rjs on April 22, 2012, 08:18:52 PM
maybe u could get a package deal including Kesler  :o
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 22, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
Lack of scoring. If they had gotten a 2nd goal.......... What does the Laughs have that the Canucks want ? ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 22, 2012, 09:30:38 PM
maybe u could get a package deal including Kesler  :o

And Malhotra, Booth, Burrows and Raymond ;)
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Sandman on April 22, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
I am thinking the one key player missing hypothesis is the best explanation.  Losing Daniel caused a whole trickle down effect that caused the President's Trophy winners to play a very different game than the one they played tonight and in earlier this week in Game 4.  Just look at the power play and how much better it looked with Daniel in the line up.  This alone does not explain the early exit, but it is the greatest cause for sure, forcing the rest of the Canucks to play outside of their own roles and comfort zones.  However, you also need to give credit to the Kings for playing a great series (a very different game than the one they played for the majority of the year without Carter in their line up) and Jonathan Quick for some stellar goal tending when the Canucks were pressing.  If you looked at the pre series predictions it was going to be a close series with the Canucks finishing first in a weak Northwest Division (coasting into the playoffs) and the facing a hungry LA team that was putting on an impressive post trade deadline run.  Special Teams match up had them dead even, with the Canucks power play slipping at the end of the season and the King's just getting going with Carter inserted into the lineup, and both strong on the PK.  But that was all with Daniel Sedin in the line up.  Without Daniel's scoring prowess, and the trickle down effect his loss had on the rest of the lineup, the match up had to be tilted in the King's favour.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: norton on April 22, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
Canucks lost to keep Chris Gadsden happy.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: chris gadsden on April 23, 2012, 05:39:13 AM
Canucks lost to keep Chris Gadsden happy.
Lol, actually I was feeling sorry for them last night and all their fans here.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 23, 2012, 11:09:11 AM
Lol, actually I was feeling sorry for them last night and all their fans here.

Despite your exterior facade of wearing Leaf parapheralia I know deep down you're a Canuck at heart. After all, we are all Canucks
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: dennyman on April 23, 2012, 04:37:40 PM
The team this year was just not good enough. Problem in sports is that you cannot rest on your laurels. The Canucks may have made the Stanley Cup Finals last year, but everyone around them has gotten better too. There is also a lot more parity in the league as there is not much difference between a # 8 seeded team and a #1 team. And in the last quarter of the season the Canucks as a team were not that dominant. Even the trade made by Gillis late in the season did very little. Hindsight is everything but if he had to do it again, I think he should have gotten a goal scorer who could help the team immediately. The lack of goal scoring in the playoffs  really hurt the Canucks as they had only one line that was doing anything, and that can only get you so far.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: leapin' tyee on April 23, 2012, 08:09:43 PM
Better team win, that it..
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: rhino on April 24, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Better team win, that it..
Very true.
when it matters..you have to step up and get in the peak performance state of mind or else you lose big...
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Stratocaster on April 24, 2012, 02:44:28 PM
They just didn't have the same hunger as they did last year.  They have played alot of hockey these last couple years.  Fatigue and the Sedin injury may have been factors.  The best game they played all year was their win in Boston.  To me it almost felt like that was their playoffs and Stanley cup rolled into one.  They did not seem like the same team after that.  It seemed like they were satisfied that they finally beat Boston in their own arena and did not have the same intensity the rest of the season.  Not saying that its right but I think things may be different next year as they will have had much more time to rest. 

Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: chris gadsden on April 24, 2012, 05:17:23 PM
They just didn't have the same hunger as they did last year.  They have played alot of hockey these last couple years.  Fatigue and the Sedin injury may have been factors.  The best game they played all year was their win in Boston.  To me it almost felt like that was their playoffs and Stanley cup rolled into one.  They did not seem like the same team after that.  It seemed like they were satisfied that they finally beat Boston in their own arena and did not have the same intensity the rest of the season.  Not saying that its right but I think things may be different next year as they will have had much more time to rest. 


Well now the Leafs should have an excellent season, being resting for a while. ::) ??? ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Stratocaster on April 24, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
Well now the Leafs should have an excellent season, being resting for a while. ::) ??? ;D

Maybe if they took half the season off!  Hey wait a minute they already do! ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 24, 2012, 09:41:42 PM
Well now the Leafs should have an excellent season, being resting for a while. ::) ??? ;D

The Cup will soon be yours. The Mann Cup ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: skaha on April 25, 2012, 04:51:36 PM
--IF GM thinks he has the players then dump the coach.

--I think they lack team character and identity... as individual players they are not bad and they have enough to do the job if properly motivated.
--It is guys like Kyle Wellwood who win you the cup... not the stars on the team.

--You put Kessler on the power play then you have to come back with a third line centre for next shift.. guess when the other team scores after penalty kill.

Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: BentRodsGuiding on April 25, 2012, 06:13:47 PM
You have to build teams to win in the playoffs, which means character players, which oftem means Canadians, lots of them.

Local players is also important, which is how Pat Quinn almost got it done in 94.

Go look back at the Oilers dynasties or the Islanders or the 70's Canadiens, they all had superstars but most the big game winning goals were by guys like Steve Shutt, Bob Gainey, Bob Nystrom, Glenn Anderson and the like.

Watch out for St Louis this year, a little young but full of heart and soul.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 25, 2012, 07:50:57 PM

--It is guys like Kyle Wellwood who win you the cup... not the stars on the team.




Wellwood is one of the softest player around. Didn't help the Jets make the playoffs
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: norton on April 26, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
Hey boys, heard the latest trade by the leafs? They traded Chris Gadsden to the Canucks for Roberto luongo.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 26, 2012, 10:09:01 PM
Hey boys, heard the latest trade by the leafs? They traded Chris Gadsden to the Canucks for Roberto luongo.

Bad trade. Gadsden is too old, too small, too soft, a whiner, can't score, won't backcheck and won't fight ;D Perfect to be a Leaf captain ;D
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: arimaBOATER on May 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM
As we found out after the Canucks season ended Kesler was not 100%.

Yes Danial missed the first 3 games & when he did return the Canucks looked so much better.

Possibly after the long battle last season & winning the 1st two games in the finals & getting game 7 in Vancouver etc & still losing out.

With the dis appointment for the players on the team & hurt they then had to hear about the craziness of the major riot.

Just do not think they had the will to make another major push to grind it thru.
Plus 15 other teams are very determined to go to war.

But think of the good teams who got kicked out.
Detroit Red Wings one of the most winning teams in the play-offs over the last 10-15 yrs.
S Crosby & Pens ( they have lousy goalie )
Chicago Blackhawks kicked out  :o
Boston Bruins out in a very very very fantastic series.
All games ended within a goal.
4 OT
Game 7 also went to OT.
Mistake for Bruins on the play or break for Caps got them the winning goal!!!!
( Mistake also by Canucks ...Hamus sp? our D man held on to the puck too long just outside our blue line & lost the puck & a perfect shot to th top corner beat Cory S. our goalie.)

We need players that show a little more passion & aggression if other team trys to take liberty.
Henrik S is too layed back to be a Capt.
Remember when in last yrs game in Boston he got the glove in the face about 6x & he basically just took it & stared at the ref.

I mean if he did not want to punch the guy back no problem BUT at least scream at the ref & wave your arms in protest when the Boston guy was not given a penalty.

LA has a fiery Captain & coach. Passion.
They have a very good team & skate very well.
When they get possession of the puck in their zone they in a snap of the finger have 5 guys racing the other direction. They bunch up the middle of th ice in their end & kept the other team to the outside.

Plus lets not forget their goalie Quick who covers angles well & has good reflexes.
Great skills.

Canucks just did not have the horses to have the "will" to try to make it to the finals.
Personally think the Canucks at not going to be very good for the next 2-3 yrs or more at least in the play-offs.
They have a lot of yappers & players that cannot take the physical stuff should the game become hard hitting.

Give them credit though they nearly did it last yr.
So so so close.

I'm really amazed how the Caps fought big time to get past the Bruins !!!
Plus the Bruins really played hard. Each game was a WAR.

Ironically there was a Washington player totally in the crease of Tim Thomas thus the goal by Ward should of been not allowed according to ex NHL player Butch Goring a Stanley Cup winner from the 1970s team NY Islanders.

He said that he was very very very surprized that Tim Thomas did not go "rank" or crazy & protest the goal right away to th refs.
Infact if Thomas & the other players & Boston coach protested the goal the ref may of did a vid review & dis allowed the goal.

Happy though that the Caps did win & now they are tied with the Rangers with each team 1 win each.

I think Caps or Devils or LA will be this years champs.
Flyers goalie gets too mad & yappy with Phillys media & his neg emotions are an anchor to his team.
Hope either LA or Caps become champs.

Neither team has a Cup.



Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: Sandman on May 02, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
I will go with my time honoured tradition of cheering for the team that knocked us out...that way I can say we lost to the Stanley Cup Champs (we just played the finals in Round One).  Kings all the way.
Title: Re: Why Did The Canucks Lose So Quickly In The Opening Round?
Post by: hookR on May 03, 2012, 12:54:06 PM

We need players that show a little more passion & aggression




I totally agree