Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: Fishfinatic on March 31, 2012, 05:22:47 AM
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So after a few days of research im leaning towards a sage Z-axis 690-2 paored with a islander IR-4 to replace the ir 2 that was stolen..
My question is i do a fair bit of trout fishing in various lakes includinh hyhuim where regularly caught 3-6 pound rainbows..
Also fish pinks and cohos
Would this setup work for these size of fish?
I do have some cheaper 8 rods and a 3 for smaller trout
Ty
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A six weight is pretty versitile and should handle those fish just fine.
Great for pinks and most coho. With bigger coho you might be wishing you had a little heavier rod if it heads out in fast current. Usually you'll be fishing slower water for them anyways though. Watch out for chums or chinooks though, you will be under gunned.
For 3-6 lb trout a six is nice. Smaller fish might not put as much bend in the rod as you might like. I have a couple 5 and 6 wts set up with different lines that I use for my stillwater fishing. If/when the wind picks up, a six helps power through.
That is a very nice setup and should do what you want quite well.
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Ty for your input
I cant wait to pick them up when i get back into town next thursday...
Cheers
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The Sage Z-Axis 690-4 is what I use for Coho, Pinks, and even Steelhead (In slower water situations) as well as Larger Trout.
GREAT Rod, you will LOVE it!!!!!
Rick
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I fished a 6 weight exclusively for 20 years and it was not a Sage. I had no trouble with any fish I hooked, even big chum (I rarely fly fished in fast current). It was only when my father passed and I inherited his 8 weight Sage that I appreciated the extra backbone when fighting steelhead on the Vedder or those bigger chums in the Stave or Dewdney Sloughs. That rod should be perfect for most fish, and just use a small enough tippet to snap off the bigger fish in the river so you don't snap the rod.
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Thanks for your thoughts.. For $350 new i dont think i can go wrong with that rod
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Well today i finally picked up my trout setup
Sage one 490-4 #4
paired with a Bauer M2 superlite
Can't wait to try them out
I wanted a 6 weight sage but the price was too good
Cheers
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Congrats.
One note: the Sage One is significantly more powerful than its line rating. This was also true for XP and Z-Axis in the lower line weights.
For example the 5wt Sage One has an Effective Rod Number of 6.5, meaning that you may find it tosses a higher line weight much better than the 4wt. (like 5wt or 5.5wt)
Regardless it should be a great setup for stillwaters.
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Ok i didnt know that i picked the bauer m2 for a few good reasons. All aluminium,insanely light, 4-6 weight, and silent, disk drag adjustmwnt on the same side as i reel on...
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Congrats.
One note: the Sage One is significantly more powerful than its line rating. This was also true for XP and Z-Axis in the lower line weights.
For example the 5wt Sage One has an Effective Rod Number of 6.5, meaning that you may find it tosses a higher line weight much better than the 4wt. (like 5wt or 5.5wt)
Regardless it should be a great setup for stillwaters.
I agree, the one is a VERY fast rod and can handle a one line overline, but you also need to remember, most lines out there (RIO, SA, CORTLAND) are 1/2 line weight overweight from industry standard as they are.
Depending on what you plan on doing with it, I would look at the RIO indicator in a 5wt if you are planning on Chironimid fishing, etc.... but if you plan on doing alot of dry fly with it, get the RIO gold in a 4wt (More delicate presentation that a 5 wt would give you)
Rick
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Very nice info..
We are planning our first trip up to hyhium lake after the thaw in mid may i hope
Might try some locals next week.. But im yet to pick the 2 lines for this setup..
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I agree, the one is a VERY fast rod and can handle a one line overline, but you also need to remember, most lines out there (RIO, SA, CORTLAND) are 1/2 line weight overweight from industry standard as they are.
Depending on what you plan on doing with it, I would look at the RIO indicator in a 5wt if you are planning on Chironimid fishing, etc.... but if you plan on doing alot of dry fly with it, get the RIO gold in a 4wt (More delicate presentation that a 5 wt would give you)
Rick
Note that both the RIO Indicator and RIO Gold are accurate to AFTMA weight standards, not overweight. The RIO Grand / SA GPX are examples of +1/2 weight.
Also, for dry fly fishing you may have difficulty loading the rod with a true 4wt due to the shorter casts.
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Note that both the RIO Indicator and RIO Gold are accurate to AFTMA weight standards, not overweight. The RIO Grand / SA GPX are examples of +1/2 weight.
Also, for dry fly fishing you may have difficulty loading the rod with a true 4wt due to the shorter casts.
Correct, that is why I suggested the 5wt for the indicator to overline to be able to cast the bigger indicators, but for a more delicate presentation, I personally would still stick with the 4wt for the Gold. If you are concerned about the turnover, maybe going with the grand or a line like the SA GPX (1/2 line wt over) may be the way to go.
Rick
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also look into the Airflo "sixth sense" line, i use the 4/5wt on my Sage rod and it feels perfect and will load with shorter lengths of line. sometimes when im chironomiding in windy conditions that i might only cast 30feet max and this line still loads my rod well.
just think of what type of fishing you will do with this setup and buy your line accordingly. If your lake fishing then something weight forward and a 1/2wt higher will be better, if you plan to mostly dry fly rivers than i would stick with the lighter line.
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I just picked up rio grand wff4 line and just ordered a second spool fo the bauer M2...
Any suggestions on a full float line.,
Ty
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I just picked up rio grand wff4 line and just ordered a second spool fo the bauer M2...
Any suggestions on a full float line.,
Ty
The RIO Grand is a full floating line.
Rick
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omg
brain fart full sink ...haha
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Full sink depends on where you will be fishing.
I usually recommend the following line to all the people I teach;
IPS (Inches Per Second)
-Full Float
-Type I Sink (Intermediate or Slime Line 1.5-2 IPS)
-Type III Sink (Medium fast 3-4 IPS)
-Type VI Sink (Very Fast 6-7 IPS)
If you are going to be doing a bunch of Trolling, I would get the Type III, if you plan on doing alot of shoals and shallower water, get the Type I, if you plan on doing alot of the boyant patterns like a Gompus dragon or foam dragon I would get the Type VI.
I use a Type Type I and a Type VI more than any other line when fishing the lakes.
If you plan on doing alot of River fishing, I suggest you look at a Multi tip system like the RIO Versi Tip.
Rick
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Full sink depends on where you will be fishing.
I usually recommend the following line to all the people I teach;
IPS (Inches Per Second)
-Full Float
-Type I Sink (Intermediate or Slime Line 1.5-2 IPS)
-Type III Sink (Medium fast 3-4 IPS)
-Type VI Sink (Very Fast 6-7 IPS)
If you are going to be doing a bunch of Trolling, I would get the Type III, if you plan on doing alot of shoals and shallower water, get the Type I, if you plan on doing alot of the boyant patterns like a Gompus dragon or foam dragon I would get the Type VI.
I use a Type Type I and a Type VI more than any other line when fishing the lakes.
If you plan on doing alot of River fishing, I suggest you look at a Multi tip system like the RIO Versi Tip.
Rick
What he said.