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Title: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on December 06, 2011, 11:59:27 PM
 I've been looking at many different Waders & jackets online for a while and have decided to purchase the Simms G4 Pro Waders & G4 Wading Jacket. I see many people on the river wearing this brand. I am ordering them Online from Still water Outfitters.

When I look at the sizing charts they seem very confusing to me especially on the jackets. Has anyone ordered from them and if so do you know where they measure from at the sleeve? I measure my In seem sleeve at 24" & Out seem at 29" but this is no where close to even their small jacket size?

I'm 6'1 and 180lbs. Even the wader sizes are confusing. Ive always worn a pair of LL waders but my sizing comes out around a medium wader and I just don't think that can be right. I'm getting 34" for my Inseam measured at the bottom of my crotch to the floor.

Unless I'm way off and there's a bunch of giants wandering around in the states.

http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/g4_pro_jacket.html

http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/g4_pro_stockingfoots.html
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HOOK on December 07, 2011, 12:53:28 AM
I wear a Simms G4 Guide jacket in the Coal/Orange and my jacket is an XL, I could have went with a L but then i wouldnt have extra sweater space

almost forgot - im 5'10" and around 185lbs so i would say your going to want an XL on the jacket for sure
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: brysonk on December 07, 2011, 06:07:50 AM
I wouldn't order something that you're going to use everytime you go fishing online. Not to mention that getting the wrong size jacket or waders will be very uncomfortable and inevitably wear out faster than proper fitting gear. Spend the extra couple bucks and go to a local shop where you can try things on and get a real feel for what you're going to be spending 1000.00 dollars on. Or take a chance and order it online and live with the consequences and inconvenience if or when you have to return something...
Don't get me wrong, I've ordered things online and saved a few bucks but have learned my lesson the hard way and just trying to save you the troubles I went through :)
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: BigFisher on December 07, 2011, 06:17:59 AM
You might want to try the Mediums. Im 6 foot, 170 and My mediums fit perfect.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on December 07, 2011, 02:09:37 PM
Thanks for the help guys. I've narrowed down my choices to the medium "MK" size wader & XL jacket, I figure the L would be a perfectly snug fit but going XL for extra room to put on under garments and more sleeve room for casting. Going to be purchasing them shortly.

I make almost all of my purchases at my local fly shop, But when it comes to these bigger purchase items I find I save a ton more money going online from Still water because they don't charge any shipping over $200 orders internationally. I've bought my GLoomis Dredger GLX spey rod & reel from them in the past without any issues, they are fast professional and would reccomend anyone to use them.

I'm also getting gloves, a bag, hat, wading shirt, including jacket & waders I'm still under what I'd pay for just the jacket and waders here locally. It would be nice to try them on but I think it would kind of a dick move to go into a shop try on their inventory for fit & then purchase them online. I'm confident I have the right sizes now.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: koko on December 07, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
How much money do you think you can save? I would support local tackle store. For a good purchase like this I am sure you can make a good deal with them, that way you get exactly what you are getting.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on December 07, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
OR at least go to a tackle shop and try one on, buy a few flies or leader or....
Maybe even get a better deal  ;) (like I did)
If not KARMA will find you.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Matt on December 07, 2011, 03:11:25 PM
I've been looking at many different Waders & jackets online for a while and have decided to purchase the Simms G4 Pro Waders & G4 Wading Jacket. I see many people on the river wearing this brand. I am ordering them Online from Still water Outfitters.

When I look at the sizing charts they seem very confusing to me especially on the jackets. Has anyone ordered from them and if so do you know where they measure from at the sleeve? I measure my In seem sleeve at 24" & Out seem at 29" but this is no where close to even their small jacket size?

I'm 6'1 and 180lbs. Even the wader sizes are confusing. Ive always worn a pair of LL waders but my sizing comes out around a medium wader and I just don't think that can be right. I'm getting 34" for my Inseam measured at the bottom of my crotch to the floor.

Unless I'm way off and there's a bunch of giants wandering around in the states.

http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/g4_pro_jacket.html

http://www.simmsfishing.com/site/g4_pro_stockingfoots.html

I'm about the same size and I wear the large G3 jacket and the medium G4 pro waders (I know, sounds weird that at 6' wearing a medium fits, but the ML and L are too big in Simms sizing.  The medium jacket has really tight forearms (weird, yes) but you won't be able to fit your forearm in with much more than a thin sweater in the medium jacket.  You could probably do a large as well for the waders, based on you preference for fit.  The G4 waders are pretty well anatomically tailored so you don't need to get them longer for room to move around wearing them.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on December 09, 2011, 09:32:56 AM
Ended up buying local in the end, I guess having it in hand for today's outing is worth it...lol.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on December 09, 2011, 10:50:20 PM
So I went out today with the new gear and it is like night & day! I spent the whole day wading in and around the water and stayed comfortable and warm all day. I didn't get anything but there's always tomorrow.  ;)
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: slick vic on December 11, 2011, 09:50:06 PM
Buy the wader not the jacket.
I have the G4 jacket and don't like it. lol
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Happy Clam on December 13, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
I'm 5'7" 150 pounds. My G3 wader SK and G4 jacket S perfectly fit me.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: mistermongz on December 20, 2011, 12:30:39 AM
Buy the wader not the jacket.
I have the G4 jacket and don't like it. lol

i have the G4 i love that jacket....
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HARLEY on December 27, 2011, 05:55:07 AM
Buy the wader not the jacket.
I have the G4 jacket and don't like it. lol

I also have the G4 Jacket and it beats every other jacket I have ever owned--By the way you did not mention what is not to like--except the crazy price for a product that is made in Taiwan.
Please let us all know your thoughts about the jacket.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on December 29, 2011, 09:07:37 PM
Got both the G4 Jacket and G4 waders without the front zipper, been using them for the last few weeks and they are both Awesome. I stay warm and dry and can wade in the water all day with out getting chilled.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: crazypop on January 17, 2012, 08:51:34 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Casey Martin on January 17, 2012, 12:39:13 PM
Buy the wader not the jacket.
I have the G4 jacket and don't like it. lol

what dont you like about it??
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Matt on January 17, 2012, 08:40:59 PM
One thing I wish Simms would copy Patagonia's cuffs, the current cuffs are only so-so.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Banny on January 17, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
One thing I wish Simms would copy Patagonia's cuffs, the current cuffs are only so-so.

Have you looked at the cuff style on the Simms guide jacket?
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Matt on January 17, 2012, 11:51:06 PM
Have you looked at the cuff style on the Simms guide jacket?

Not the new one, but the old one had neoprene which absorbs water.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HOOK on January 18, 2012, 01:08:01 AM
which old one are you talking about ?

I wear a G4 guide and have dunked my arm into the water and not a drop past the cuff barrier unless i leave my arm submerged to long which would happen with any jacket im sure. I always hated the puddle in th elbow i got from cheaper jackets while fly fishing, i do not get this with my Simms coat.


Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Carich980 on January 18, 2012, 12:49:18 PM
The only complaint I have on the waders is it only has 2 belt loops for the wading belt on the front hips it would be nice if they would put a 3rd on the back.

Other than that though compared to my old gear which was Bare neoprenes and a pvc Angler jacket. These are awesome and worth every penny. I can stay warm and dry wading all day even in the worst windy rain and snow we've had recently.

Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HOOK on January 18, 2012, 01:27:51 PM
i think there should be 5 belt loops to keep it from sliding up or down while walking, bending,or  climbing. my waders only have 1 at the back and my belt slides up the sides enough to irritate me some days.

5 loops: 1middle of back, 2 just behind you along your sides but not directly on your sides and then 2 more infront where they are on jeans. this would make for a belt that doesnt move around at all.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: Casey Martin on January 18, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
The only complaint I have on the waders is it only has 2 belt loops for the wading belt on the front hips it would be nice if they would put a 3rd on the back.

Other than that though compared to my old gear which was Bare neoprenes and a pvc Angler jacket. These are awesome and worth every penny. I can stay warm and dry wading all day even in the worst windy rain and snow we've had recently.




i have the g4 waders they have 3 belt loops two at front one in the back and the belt never slides. even if i wear it loose.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: BIG T on January 18, 2012, 01:55:49 PM

i have the g4 waders they have 3 belt loops two at front one in the back and the belt never slides. even if i wear it loose.

x2
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HOOK on January 18, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
sounds perfect but why dont they put those on the cheaper waders so those of us that cant justify paying those rediculous prices.


HOOK - wont buy waders over $250, owned Bare and Simms and both leaked very quickly  >:(
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: greyghost on January 18, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
sounds perfect but why dont they put those on the cheaper waders so those of us that cant justify paying those rediculous prices.


HOOK - wont buy waders over $250, owned Bare and Simms and both leaked very quickly  >:(

 ::) The amount of time you spend on the flow, It amazes me that water has time to leak in your waders. "Internet angler of the year". Miss you on the other site. LOL.
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: HOOK on January 19, 2012, 01:10:14 AM
what other site ?

internet angler eh  ::) I may not fish as much as i used to because i have two young sons to raise now but im still out a few times a month. I just dont post reports anymore  :P


I cant wait until my boys are old enough to bring along because the wife will never see us then LOL my 2 1/2 yr old has already caught several pinks on the fly, single hander and on the spey  ;D
Title: Re: Simms Waders/Jacket
Post by: steelie-slayer on February 24, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
i just recently got simms headwaters, nice waders. A trick i use is to wear thermal heat socks from marks work ware house, there really warm and soft.