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Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: noobfisher on May 11, 2011, 07:51:07 PM

Title: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 11, 2011, 07:51:07 PM
Now that I've narrowed down my reel choices, any suggestions for the rod weight?  This will be my first rod, looking to do mostly tidal fraser, stocked local lakes and pinks.  I like the idea of having a light rod, but is a 4 weight rod to small for pinks?  Thanks!
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: slick vic on May 11, 2011, 07:59:14 PM
6 wt is good for pinks
pink on a 4 wt you'll feel like you're fighting a marlin  ;D
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: typhoon on May 11, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
4 weight is too light for pinks.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: k.c. on May 11, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
Go with a 5wt to start.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: Tex on May 12, 2011, 08:54:56 AM
A 6wt is your best all-round rod.  You can catch pinks on it, and coho, and it's still alright for most trout fishing.  That said, if you're targeting local lakes for rainbows, those are some small fish.  A 5wt would be more appropriate for those, but then you're borderline undergunned for the pinks.

A 4wt is definitely too light, as others have said.  Can you still LAND pinks on a 4wt?  Of course!  Should you?  My answer is an emphatic "no".
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 12, 2011, 12:15:52 PM
Thanks for the advice, looks like it will be a five weight since I plan to do mostly stocked trout, maybe cutties, bull and give pinks a try.  I really liked the feel of the tfo rod I saw, affordable as well.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: cutthroat22 on May 12, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
You will like the 5 for trout no doubt.

Some days (no wind, small flies, perfect water, smaller fish) it will be ok for the Fraser.

You will end up buying another rod(s) eventually  ;)
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 12, 2011, 02:12:04 PM
You fly guys sure are a helpful friendly bunch! ;D
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: steelie-slayer on May 12, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
last summer on the campbell r. i saw a guy using a 4wt for pinks he caught a few batlles took abit of time, and then he hooked a small coho or spring and snapped it.
5s perfect for trout and works for pink
for pinks my dad uses a 5 and i use a 6 and really there doesnt seem to be a huge difference, only real difference seems like is that my 6wt is a 10 footer and his 5 is a 9footer.
i like knowing i got that bit of extra power from a 6 has compared to a 5 for if you hook a huge humpy or a coho.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on May 12, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
I wouldnt use a 5wt for pinks in rivers with a current. Now if it was the tidal fraser than no problem but around Chilliwack your under gunned.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 14, 2011, 11:01:07 AM
After your input I'm thinking of a rod from 5 wt TFO ....  priced well and liked the feel of them ...haven't decided which one .... any recommendations on which series of rod?  They have a TSX package, with rod, reel, line and bag for about $200 dollars.  Any have any experience with their rods, reel and lines?
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: dennyman on May 14, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
For an entry level rod that is all set up for ya for $ 200, you cannot go wrong. Just add some water and you will be fishing.
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Post by: aquaholic on May 14, 2011, 10:06:07 PM
You can buy TFO rods direct from the Canadian website for alot less than the stores sell them for, TFO is also Lifetime warranty
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 14, 2011, 10:20:22 PM
You can buy TFO rods direct from the Canadian website for alot less than the stores sell them for, TFO is also Lifetime warranty

Thanks,  just checked them out  ;D nice website and really good prices :)
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: Silex-user on May 15, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
Using a 4wt fly rod and catching 10" trout feels like playing a 2 lbs trout. LOL  Being there and done there.



Silex-user
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 19, 2011, 06:16:22 AM
The TFO NFX series comes in a 4/5 weight and a 5/6 weight?  From what I gather the 4/5 comes with 5 weight line, the 5/6 comes with 6 weight line ... does this make sense?
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: Tex on May 19, 2011, 10:45:50 AM
Some people like to overweight their rods somewhat, as they find it loads the rod better on the cast than the matching line weight (remember, the only weight you use when you're casting a fly rod is the fly line itself).  With a 5/6 rod, a 5wt line would likely seem to light when you're casting it.  If you're choosing between these two options (4/5 or 5/6), I would definitely go with the 5/6 for your described uses.
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Post by: nickredway on May 20, 2011, 03:38:52 PM
Noob,
Get that 5/6 TFO for sure, I like mine and it was equally fun for Pinks and Cutties on the beach last year on the island, cast well in the wind and it seemed well made until I trapped the car door on it  ::) As others have said it doesn't matter what rod you start out with it will only be a matter of time until you will need / want a whole bunch of other rods for different fish / situations, but as a starter that will cover a few bases and with the warantee they are pretty hard to beat IMO.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on May 20, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
Thanks for the advice :)
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: marmot on May 22, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
6.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: Blackgivesway2blue on May 22, 2011, 03:57:05 PM
eventually youll have one of every wt, but for starters, id go with a 6, i kinda regret going with a 5 first, but some days i love fishing the 5wt, the 6 only helps with the longer cast i find, my opinion though, others may differ,
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: trout80 on May 23, 2011, 09:44:56 AM
I  like my 5 weight St. Croix Imperial. I dont hesitate to recommend it.
Title: I got them all
Post by: cohojoe on May 30, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
I got them all.   Love all of them.    two Wt   for tiny fish,  3/4  for the skagit,   5/6  for  Tunkwa,   7 for the Veddar / Harrison,   9/10  for salmon and steelhead.     Now  I just got a  10  wt  for  salmon in the ocean estuaries.    Have  yourself a good time.   Make sure your wife / girlfriend knows how many rods you want.   Ha Ha..r
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: HOOK on May 31, 2011, 01:52:12 AM
ok Cohojoe you went a little overboard LOL

2wt perfect for fish to 2-3lbs including the Skagit and i know lots of people using rods as small as 000wt's there and they work perfectly

3-6 wt are perfect lake trout rods(6wt mostly for windy days or tossing full sink lines farther), 5-6wt is a wicked rod for fishing pinks

7-8wt is perfect for any salmon/steelhead fishing, 9-10 wt is better if your going to be targetting springs specifically

I personally own a 4wt,5wt and a 7/8wt spey rod. getting another single hander again i think. probably a 7wt. I use my 5wt on pinks in the salt and in fresh water and never felt undergunned. not sure why you need a 10wt for saltwater salmon fishing unless your only after springs, lots of water to play them out out there lol


HOOK - needs a 12wt and a boat to get sturgeon on the fly  ;D
Title: a $ 25 flyrod one day at the skagit
Post by: cohojoe on May 31, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
One day in about  2000   my geezer buddy and went to the skagit where it enters  Ross lake.    He pulls out this fly rod that was maybe a $ 25  fly rod by eagle claw from  Harkley and Haywood days.      The reel  was seized,  but the fly line ,  even though cracked and stiff still went out to the fishes.    I managed to catch a few trout on that  40 year old outfit     But  I used modern flies and  tippet.    So  maybe you can find an outfit here on the buy and sell  that works for you.   Some how  the fishes did not care about the cost,  the type ,   the  fancy  gear.    Just the Fly.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: VAGAbond on June 07, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
Lots of wise advice on what you need to play a fish.   First you have to hook one and that typically requires casting as far as possible.   Heavier rods cast farther easier, especially for beginners.
Title: Re: 4,5 or 6 weight rod?
Post by: noobfisher on July 11, 2011, 09:19:52 PM
Update - ended up getting a TFO Signature rod, 8'6 foot, 5 wt rod   :)