Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: andychan on September 29, 2010, 07:19:21 AM
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New to using jigs; what knot should I use? Normally I fish using an egg loop knot but this method cannot be used with a jig.
What is a strong jig not
thanks
(http://www.gonefishinpa.com/catalog/Custom%20Marabou%20Jigs%20.jpg)
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Clinch knot.
Although you shouldn't use those jigs. The hooks are thin gauge wire and will bend on your first fish.
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use the trilene knot...its basically the fishermans knot that is looped through the eye and then finished like a regular fishermans knot. It doesnt pull out easily and is stronger due to there being 2 wraps around the eye of the hook. The most important feature is that the 2 loops on the hook eye help you keep the jig level. I like having my jigs run parallel to the bottom ie at a 90 degree angle from the main line and the trilene or improved fishermans knot helps keep the jig cocked at the angle I like it.
PS - this is the knot I use when joining andthing to a swivel...its a great knot.
http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/index.php
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why not just use the good old Palomer knot, strongest fishing knot there is
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Palomar knot. Its the easiest knot to tie and supposed to the strongest.
Starting fishing I used the clinch knot for everything. Now it seems I use the bait loop for river fishing where I need the loop, or for saltwater trolling. Everythign else (tieing to a jog, lure, swivel) I use the palomar.
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Oh and I started using jigs for fall salmon last year for the first time - they worked very well! I now use them regularly along with roe and blades.
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those look like rabit, which will hold up better then marabou.
make sure the knot is tight and rotate it on the eye so youy line is perpendicular to the hook shank. after unhooking a fish you will need to move the knot on the eye.
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why not just use the good old Palomer knot, strongest fishing knot there is
X3
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without a doubt, the palomer knot is the most effective and easiest to tie...especially under cold or wet conditions when your fingers are numb.
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Any time I have something that needs "slack" motion like a jig I'll use a loop knot.
those are marabou and not rabbit, Richmond. You can see the feathers. Check the second down on the left..
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You can easliy tell the rabbit jigs from the maribou jigs.
The maribou jigs have the colours split in half - top & bottom.
The rabbit jigs have the different colours inside & out.
The rabbit jigs have a schlappen collar wrapped all the way around the fur.
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Though the colors are good ( i won't go into slappin, saddle, rabbit or malibou) the hooks do seem a little light as mentioned by Sterling C.
And I'd go more for: front over back as apposed to to top over bottom ( but if they're biting it won't matter).
Front over back allows the pulse of the material to alter the appearance/color of the jig.
Top over bottom only shows big color up and down, small color up and down (big/small of the same vs. red with a tinge of chartruese _pulse- half red/ half chartruse).
Hope that makes sense.
Check out Bent Rod's jigs.
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I clinch knot everything unless I am joining two lines together
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Im with Marmot on this one anytime a lure or jig or fly needs action Ill tie the perfection loop, otherwise its the Palomar.
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I started using the trilene knot last year for spinners and jigs and I haven't lost a fish yet to the knot breaking.
Justin
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Gooey: thanks for the link to the trilene knot. Looks easy enough.
A respectable source told me Chartruse jigs for chum, red jigs for chinook and blue jigs for coho. For what it's worth.
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your reliable source lied to you ;)
purple and purple/pink jigs will slay Chum anywhere
to be honest there is no prefect colour or colour combo but it helps to have a decent variety when your on the water. I personally only use two toned ones the odd time i fish them
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An old salty showed me that addition to the fisherman's knot (ie the second loop) about 20 years ago while trolling on the alberni canal. He used almost exclusiviely plugs and thats the knot he used. Why....simply because that knot could be positioned at various spots on a Tomic plugs U shaped eye in order to create a more aggressive action. Like I said, my preference is to have the jig ride parallel to the bottom, I guarantee you that the Trilene know and the 2 loops around eye of the jig will hold that allignment better than any knot that only has a single loop around the eye.
I think I started fishing jigs for coho more than 12 years ago. For salmon, my favorite material is either marabou or flashabou (tinsel). Pink/purple marabou is by far the most versitile jig/color (chum, coho, steelhead), I like yellow marabou for coho, I tie a green/blue and green/purple flashabou jig that work well on chum and coho. Pink white has also been a good combo, chartruese/black, the popsicle pattern (purple red orange i think), etc. While palmered marabou jigs like the ones pictured here are good, I like tieing oversized wooly bugger patterns onto my jigs (ie marabou tail, chenile body with hackle palmered over the body). When experimenting with jigs, I simply looked at the fly fishermans arsenal and enlarged and copied the patterns onto jigs as previosuly mentioned a wooly bugger and christmas tree seemed to be the two that worked best for me but I am sure there are others out there!
I also cast my own jig head an I haven't noticed a difference in fishability between bare lead heads and colored ones or lead and the plated shiny beads some jigs use.
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When experimenting with jigs, I simply looked at the fly fishermans arsenal and enlarged and copied the patterns onto jigs as previosuly mentioned a wooly bugger and christmas tree seemed to be the two that worked best for me but I am sure there are others out there!
I have had the same idea ... Here is a little sampling of jigs created from known coho fly patterns. Christmas trees, coho blues, rolled muddlers, olive wooly buggers, etc..
(http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww289/MikeNCathy/IMG_1404.jpg)
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