Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: andrew5 on March 02, 2010, 12:31:51 PM
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Hi all,
I live on the Surrey/Delta border. I am about eight months into my born again fishing hobby, and am looking for areas I can try close to home that are a little closer than squamish/chilliwack to try. I have heard about the little campbell and serpentine rivers in Surrey/White rock, but have yet to attempt them, mainly due to lack of knowledge.
I am not asking for anyone's favorite spots, just what areas I can access them from and find my own favorite spots. Any help here would really help me get out and discover these rivers.
Also, is this river open to walking and wading with a fly rod, or is it mostly shore access only?
Finally, what is in that river? Cutthroat? Bows? Bulls even? I know it is a salmon stream too, so when might the next salmon run be on them?
I know I have lots of questions here, but I am really eager to get out and try these rivers out, especially since the Olympics are over now!
Thanks in advance.
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hey... i also live on the border of delta and surrey and have tryed the serpentine river,, at the bridge crossing going to white rock.. unfortuntly had no luk... BUT!!! i have seen ppl pull out decent size trout and the odd coho...
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these small systems will get a lot of attention good and bad... best thing to do is go and explore and keep that hook in the water... fish around in all three local streams find em and release them as soon as possible... take it easy and tight lines
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Well not exactly the answer to the question you asked but you could always try the Fraser River. Close to home and there's fish to be had.
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Well not exactly the answer to the question you asked but you could always try the Fraser River. Close to home and there's fish to be had.
I was thinking this too, but the same thing applies... it's such a big river that I don't even know where to begin. I have spin casting gear and a 6 wt fly rod. I hear that the cutthroat fisihg is good, so I would love to have a few specific destinations to try out. It really helps try a new river if you have an idea of where to start.
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You should be able to find access with some exploring.
Look at the regulations and look for any closed seasons or areas.
Check out google earth or even street maps of the area.
I think a lot of the fun is just doing the exploring and once in a while you get lucky.
Is pretty hard to give you access spots and not give up our secret spots.
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You should be able to find access with some exploring.
Look at the regulations and look for any closed seasons or areas.
Check out google earth or even street maps of the area.
I think a lot of the fun is just doing the exploring and once in a while you get lucky.
Is pretty hard to give you access spots and not give up our secret spots.
yess good point. What about the main parks though, I am sure those aren't secret, but just want to konw if there are fishing opportunities there.
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http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/region_two/index.html
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You can always try fishing around the mouths of these rivers for cutties in the ocean. I've never tried this with the serpentine but have caught a couple around the little campbell's mouth. This type of fishing requires patience however, it's much like steelheading. You might take several trips to get into fish on these small systems. Another place to try that is similar to these rivers is the nicomekl. Just a heads up though, these rivers are usually closed at the end of march.
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If you go wandering around the mouth of the serpentine, we just might have a few less fishermen to crowd other waters. ;D ;D Out beyond the dikes CAN get interesting in a hurry. ;D
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If you go wandering around the mouth of the serpentine, we just might have a few less fishermen to crowd other waters. ;D ;D Out beyond the dikes CAN get interesting in a hurry. ;D
ya some kid tried to cross last year i think. stuck in the mud and had to call for help. Take a boat !!
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Is there a tidal boundary ? Is a tidal license required for Serpentine ? Have a friend who lives very close to the Serpentine and wants to take his boy down there.Thanks
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Tidal boundaries;
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s29-eng.html
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Little cambell golf course. Mud hole and above. Meadows down river a bit. Wool no weight just a swivel. Or i use a little red and white bobber. Roe. Dew worms. Or spinner. Also a deep spot right at the mouth. Nicklemackle. I like 184 and down. Blue fox spinners. Coho. Dew worms cutties. Serp. Havent fished as much. See people fishing below king george. Or also up off 64th.
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Thanks guys
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* 75 ft NO FISHING ZONE by all the Tidal Dams (Includes: Casting
Yes, I think you are the resident expert in that regulation ;D
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There is a spot on the little campbell river when you can get into lots of Coho. Have to cross it and walk a bit thew trails of poison ivy but by mid fishing season there usual beaten down. Fish the boundary, they all tend to hold in the no fishing zone.
Go out and explore you will find it.
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By losing tons of lures on snags exchange for one fish.
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So tidal and non-tidal regs are the same in these systems? I can only see non-tidal.
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Given that the tidal border is effectively the estuary. There is no more river downstream of the boundary.
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Given that the tidal border is effectively the estuary. There is no more river downstream of the boundary.
Ahh i see that train bridge now. I was looking at the wrong one.
Thanks,
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You should be able to find access with some exploring.
Look at the regulations and look for any closed seasons or areas.
Check out google earth or even street maps of the area.
I think a lot of the fun is just doing the exploring and once in a while you get lucky.
Is pretty hard to give you access spots and not give up our secret spots.
This is proper fishing in a nutshell IMO.
I spend a ton of time exploring and learning new waters. I have been skunked far more days than not - but love exploring and realize how much more satisfaction you do get once you find places and techniques that are working.
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It's not in the regulations that I see, so I'm wondering if I can put a cartopper into the lower reaches of any of these rivers with an electric and fish from it or is it not allowed or at least point me in the direction where I can find such information
Serpentine, L. Campbell or Nicomekl
Thank you
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It's not in the regulations that I see, so I'm wondering if I can put a cartopper into the lower reaches of any of these rivers with an electric and fish from it or is it not allowed or at least point me in the direction where I can find such information
Serpentine, L. Campbell or Nicomekl
Thank you
I've never met HOOK but you get to know a guy's style online, and this does not appear to be how he writes.
Call me a conspiracy theorist... :)
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Yes, you can. Its not ideal though. For instance you can get stuck in Mud Bay pretty easily at low tide around the mouth of the Serp. It completely empties of water at low tide.
Best to just park and walk. But there are way more fish in the Vedder, Chehalis, Stave etc.
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I've never met HOOK but you get to know a guy's style online, and this does not appear to be how he writes.
Call me a conspiracy theorist... :)
It was in fact I that asked this LoL ;) if people are going to continue to post about these systems publicly then I feel ok asking about them as they are systems I'm still learning
Damien, plan was to slide my jon in and putter around letting the kids cast or just float and cast. Would allow us to cover water and spots the bank is pretty sketchy with kids. I would know, I've fallen/slid in once already. I'm aware of where has more fish but this is close to home and good for short outings
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There is no angling from power boats allowed above the tidal gates in the Nic and the Serpentine. It is in the regs. I doubt the Little C is navigable. You may have trouble getting a boat, or canoe into the Nic or Serp above the gates. Sections of the streams may be too shallow for navigation at times.
People should also be aware that such regulations are governed by the Federal Transportation Act regulations.
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dp
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Yeah, I suppose you could. Might be a handful trying to the get boat back up the muddy banks. Might be better to try the estuary areas of these systems from the boat, below the gates/dams. And it can be a bit unpredictable in the terms of having to row/paddle back to where you put in with tides, currents, and dams opening or closing. As Ralph mentioned, no power boats above the gates/dams.
I might suggest putting in on the Fraser like Derby Reach or something.
Pinks rolling through, schools of coho, jacks, sturgeon etc. And lots of course fish to keep the kids interested.
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The areas I was talking about was between the gates and ocean. It would just be nice to have options....float tube or pontoon is another option instead
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Go try is all that can be said at this point I guess.
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If you found a suitable place or have private access to launch and pull-out then go for it. A 4-wheeler with a winch would be nice to slide the jon back out with.
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I've seen guys in car toppers on the Nik around the golf course area (where they park the boats) do well. I've only ever fished from shore with a fly
and that's not easy with the dyke. Spoons and spinners seem to be the most effective. Very frustrating river... I could never nail down a bite aside from
first light.
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Reminder to pay attention to the no fishing/casting to within 30 meters of the dyke on the Nickomekl.
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I've seen guys in car toppers on the Nik around the golf course area (where they park the boats) do well. I've only ever fished from shore with a fly
and that's not easy with the dyke. Spoons and spinners seem to be the most effective. Very frustrating river... I could never nail down a bite aside from
first light.
A longer rod helps, as does using the steeple cast. If possible don't cast directly back at the dyke. In many places on the river a cast of 30 feet or less is all you need. Coho will often hold right against the bank so casts directly downstream or up are possible when fish hold against the near bank.
As far as fly versus spinner etc. No doubt spinners and spoons are effective. However I often carry 2 rods, fly & spinning and sometimes I will have a coho chase a spinner to my feet, refuse it on a following cast or two but take a fly immediately once I switch.
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sometimes I will have a coho chase a spinner to my feet, refuse it on a following cast or two but take a fly immediately once I switch.
That advice/observation is gold, Ralph....regardless of what system you are talking about.
One of my deficiencies as an angler (of which there are many!) is getting stuck in a rut. " It worked yesterday, it will work today I just need to give it time" or "He struck at the lure; if I keep casting the same lure he'll strike at it again" I forget to mix it up, or I get lazy. Good reminder.
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That advice/observation is gold, Ralph....regardless of what system you are talking about.
One of my deficiencies as an angler (of which there are many!) is getting stuck in a rut. " It worked yesterday, it will work today I just need to give it time" or "He struck at the lure; if I keep casting the same lure he'll strike at it again" I forget to mix it up, or I get lazy. Good reminder.
I think ALL of us are guilty of doing these exact same things. I know I definitely do it
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sometimes I will have a coho chase a spinner to my feet, refuse it on a following cast or two but take a fly immediately once I switch.
I also like to bring two rods for coho fishing but LOL I do just the opposite, fly first then spinners or spoons afterwards.
One of my deficiencies is believing that fresh fish will always bite so I won't change but hoping for more fish to come in and the next thing you know the sun hits the water or the spot gets crowded.
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I prefer the fly rod certainly but sometimes the spinning rod is what I have in my hand when a fish shows or it's just an easier cast.
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There is no angling from power boats allowed above the tidal gates in the Nic and the Serpentine. It is in the regs. I doubt the Little C is navigable. You may have trouble getting a boat, or canoe into the Nic or Serp above the gates. Sections of the streams may be too shallow for navigation at times.
People should also be aware that such regulations are governed by the Federal Transportation Act regulations.
More likely to hit something submerged with your prop (done that). I occasionally paddle the nic by launching right by King George above Elgin road from the corner of the parking lot that's there. Nice place for a paddle and a fly rod.
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Back in the day, we used to do quite well for cutthroat on the Serp and Slime. Won't say where as these small streams don't need any publicity on a open forum.