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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: scalper66 on November 06, 2009, 06:55:34 PM

Title: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 06, 2009, 06:55:34 PM
hey everyone long time salmon fisherman here who is looking to keep the season going i am gonna start sturgeon fishing . just looking for any info or honey holes you could spare as i am completly new to this and looking to get into some action thanks
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Jace on November 06, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
Try out the Haney warf, during pink season i ve seen twice as many sturgeon jump than pinks.
Alos talking to others i hear the sturgeon fishing there is awsome.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 06, 2009, 07:32:49 PM
Try out the Haney warf, during pink season i ve seen twice as many sturgeon jump than pinks.
Alos talking to others i hear the sturgeon fishing there is awsome.

It can be good BUT their are lots of snags around.

Look for places with steep drop offs.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: BCfisherman97 on November 06, 2009, 08:44:09 PM
Try Hatzic Flats. Never been disappointed.  ;D
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 07, 2009, 12:46:05 AM
maybe ill try the flats ever land any big ones outta there?
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: BCfisherman97 on November 07, 2009, 10:27:29 AM
I got one on my B-day this year that was about 50.
My dad got one a few years back which was just under 100.
But I did see one that was over 200, but it was on a boat.
Best of Luck.  :)
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: DionJL on November 07, 2009, 02:58:17 PM
50, 100, 200? Are you talking pounds or centimeters?
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: BCfisherman97 on November 07, 2009, 03:07:28 PM
pounds
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: golferturnedfisher on November 07, 2009, 03:25:29 PM
hey does anybody know of any shore locations in chilliwack to fish for sturgeon
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 07, 2009, 04:43:53 PM
also just wondering what a good pound test for the main line  is i have a 11 foot spincaster big reel
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: cohojoe on November 07, 2009, 04:55:24 PM
don't laugh.   you should be prepared to hold onto something on shore or on the dock.    If you get lucky and get a 7 foot fish it will pull you in,  and your friend holding you.    Or  wear a life jacket so we can find you later  Ha Ha.    I have seen seven foot sturgeons jumping at near us at the 272  fishing hole in Langley.   Wow.    You should use 80 pound test on those giant reels.   Remember it would be real embarassing to get one and get pulled in with your buddy holding onto you.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 07, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
Assuming your not a midget and not fishing with a lever drag Penn International, you shouldn't worry about a fish pulling you in.  My Penn 330GT2 and GTi only put out a puny 15 lbs of drag the 320s put out quite a bit less.

Aren't there are many spinning reels that are appropriate for sturgeon IMO.  None for cheaper than a Penn 330 at around $140.

I'd use 80-100lbs PowerPro from shore for the reason that you can use lighter weights (than say if you went with 150lbs) and there is a practical limit to the amount of weight you can cast effectively.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 09, 2009, 06:57:26 PM
so went out sturgeon fishing today for the first time no luck.... treied the hatzic area no luck and then moved to the haney wharf lots of snags there.. was using some rotten salmon parts i got from the stave.. what size weight do most ppl use at haney wharf anyone know?
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 09, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
You want just enough weight to hold the bottom.  Too much and you can't cast it.  Can't give you the # of oz, as it would depend on your line diameter, tidal flow, angle you're casting from shore etc.  i usually fish 12oz downstream in slow current and it doesn't hold too well, but there are no snags and its the bomb to cast.  14oz overwhelms my rod but holds better.  I'm using 150lbs Power Pro.

A buddy got this one yesterday.
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Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 10, 2009, 04:13:21 PM
can anyone reccomend a good shore sturgeon rod im having trouble finding anything 12ft or over?
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 10, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
can anyone reccomend a good shore sturgeon rod im having trouble finding anything 12ft or over?

Why do you want a 12 foot rod for sturgeon. Get a good 7-8 foot sturgeon rod. I have casted 7-8 foot rods from shore and never had a problem. If your fishing at a spot with a steep drop off you wont need to cast far anyways.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 10, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
how am i supposed to no the depth from shore dont no any deep spots
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 10, 2009, 05:14:59 PM
how am i supposed to no the depth from shore dont no any deep spots

Explore.

I will even give you some tips.

The north side of the Fraser past Pitt Meadows has lots of steep drop offs, the Fraser on the south side around Mission/Abby has lots of steep drop offs.

Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 10, 2009, 05:58:15 PM
how am i supposed to no the depth from shore dont no any deep spots

You spelled "KnoW" wrong twice.

Fire a cast out there.  I've always taken the square root of the time elapsed for the weight to sink, multiplied by two and halved the result and square that.  I then make a judgement call.  The closer the value obtained is to 0, the shallower the water will be.  Some say there are simpler ways, like looking at the slope of the bank. ;D
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 13, 2009, 05:21:41 PM
spent the day at haney wharf skunked again used dew worms and some left over roe caught nothing but a cold
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 13, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
That's like putting out cheesys on the counter of a sushi bar...  Bruce's market had some fresh-ish roe recently... try some of that.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: scalper66 on November 13, 2009, 08:46:37 PM
i  just want to make sure im doing the set up right i use 80lb mainline to a three-way swival with drCon leader on the other side 2-3 foot to hook and then just tie 16 ounce wieght to the 3rd swiwal part
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on November 13, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Go into a tackle store and get the slider with a clip. You want beads below and above that clip. This slider is on the mainline. At the end of your mainline a swivel. Attach 18-24 inches of dacron leader. The weight is attached to the sliding clip. This way the weight slides and the fish dont feel the resistance when they pick up the bait.
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 13, 2009, 09:04:25 PM
If you're casting from shore, switch the slider for a swivel floating on the mainline.  The plastic sliders cannot take the force of casting and you'll lose your $7 weight, ask me how I know. :)
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: glx on November 13, 2009, 09:32:51 PM
I like to run 100 pound tuff line.  I start by sliding 2 large beads on the main line, then a large 1/0-2/0 snap swivel followed by 5 more beads, then tie on a 1/0-2/0 barrel swivel.  My leaders consists of 130 pound tuff line  and is about 30 inches long, depeding on the bait of choice. 
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: firstlight on November 13, 2009, 11:21:25 PM
glx has it down.

The key to Sturgeon is matching the bait in the river at that time.
You are starting at the end of the smorgasbord.
You gotta get em when they are in the front of the line. ;)
Stll worth going.
Haney wharf is tidal so depending on tidal push has a lot to do with weight needed.
I basically run 14-22 oz depending where and when including the wharf.
Try the west end of the wharf and cast out on allmost a 45 degree angle .
Your line is going to end up down there anyway so the less bouncing the lesser chance of a hang up.
Do not leave your rod unattended for the slightest or you could be like me and watch it go fly over the railing.
A lanyard to the reel isnt a bad idea down there. ;)
Title: Re: sturgeon shore fishing
Post by: Matt on November 13, 2009, 11:59:37 PM
If I'm gonna be tying up roe bags and only partially paying attention to the rod, I put the reel on freespool and turn on the clicker.   When I'm done tying up bags, engage the drag for a faster hookset.

My set up in a Penn 330 with an Amundson Sturgeon/ Shimano Technium (just about the same rods).  My line is 150lbs Power Pro.  I thread the line through two big plastic beads, through the eye of a 20kg snap swivel, then two more plastic beads and tie to a 80kg swivel (I use a polamar knot here).  I take a 36" length of 96lbs sturgeon leader (dacron) then tie an egg-loop on a 8/0 Gammy covering most of the shank with the egg loop.  I tighten the knot by grabbing the tag end with pliars, and wrapping the leader around my sleeve.  The knot should be rock hard and should be impossible to spin on the shank without using pliars.  Tie the other end of the leader to the 80kg swivel with a knot that is a bit like a clinch knot, but meant for braids. 

NOTE: you're not going to be able to pinch the barb on a 8/0 Gammy without snapping it and leaving a faux-barb, so I take a Dremel to that stub and grind it down completely. 

Clip on a weight onto the snap of the 30kg swivel so that if you snag your weight, you'll just spend 10 seconds clipping on a new $7 weight, instead of 5 minutes trying up a new rig.