Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: minsyoo on September 29, 2009, 07:27:39 PM
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I'm basically trying to learn the differences among them and what each of them is mostly used for. I understand this question is basic, and the answers can be pretty long, so if someone could just point me in the right direction for teaching myself, I'd appreciate it!
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this one is easy, cp :D
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I agree with Fishforever. But I prefer centerpin. ;D :P
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I have recently bought a centerpin and found it very nice to fish with.
Casting is a bit of trick (I had to start the cast well behind me) but it's simplicity was great.
I seemed to have to pay a lot less attention to it once it was cast - hard to explain but it was more peaceful to fish with?
Spinning reels are useless for salmon - you need to be able to let line out at a controlled rate.
You do this with your thumb on a levelwind and your fingers with a cp.
I tried using a large spinning reel for salmon when I first started but lost a very nice fish when the bail didn't close properly.
I will still fish with levelwinds (baitcasters & levelwinds are basically the same thing) because I can cast further than with a cp.
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Spinning reels are not useless for salmon.they are however not ideal for drift fishing.
minsyoo maybe your best bet is to talk to tackle shops, then you can see each style in person, and get an idea of what they are most suited for.
Its more than what each style can do its what the prey is, the kind of water fished, kind of terminal tackle, from shore or boat, users ability budget etc.
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levelwind/baitcaster is the most versatile.... i can toss spoons and spinners and then float fish easily and casting and retrieving is fast
centerpin is still my preference though.
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I just bought a CP last week at reaction second hand. it's kinda hard at first cause I'm fishing during dawn and the bite are just starting so I switch with my Baitcaster and start practicing with the CP late afternoon very sensitive, but I still have to practice on my cast specially the long one ..no regret buying one it's an Okuma aVenda and a fenwick Rod Supersensitive.
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Level-wind works well. Spinning reels seem to always fall apart within a couple months- I'd suggest you don't waste your time as they aren't well suited to drift/ float fishing. Centerpin would be nice if I could afford it.
The 5600C3 a pretty good all-round reel for around the Lower Mainland.
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Levelwind and baitcaster is the same thing. As stated they are good for float fishing and can cast lures although it is difficult to cast light weighted lures. Smaller sized baitcasters cast light lure better. Baitcasters take some time to learn how to cast correctly without tangling the line a.k.a getting a birds nest. Spinning reels are cast light lures well (also depends on the rod used) but are not ideal for float fishing bait etc. Apparently they are good for float fishing jigs though. Centrepins are simple in design and require the angler to thumb the spool to create drag when fighting a fish. Apparently they pay out line more fluidly and therefore are ideal for float fishing. Baitcasters are the most versatile of the bunch.
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baitcaster or centerpin
leave the spinning reels for stillwater fishing
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Don't be afraid to use a spinning reel in freshwater. I just gave a Shimano Symetre 4000 to a young angler that has landed lots of coho, pinks, chum and the odd steelhead. I mainly use a spinning reel for spoons, spinners and short floating colorados. Have just upgraded to a Shimano Sustain FE4000 and have landed a few pinks and a couple of coho with it. A levelwind is the best bet for an all around reel. Just remember that as the quality of the reels goes the price does also.
Agreed on the spinning reel. I primarily use a spinning reel for all my low water fishing....including short floating. However, I feel that I am more of an exception than the rule when it comes to this. In fact, I know a certain symetre 4000 that has in the last 2 months caught several steelhead, a red spring and more coho over 15lbs than most people will see in 10 years on the Vedder.
That said, if I could only own one reel for salmon/steelhead fishing in the lowermainland it would be a mid sized levelwind such a calcutta 200.
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a good smooth centerpin will never be outmatched. u can float fish, spinner fish, spoon fish. u can cast spoons on a pin! fish spinners under a float, and then everything else can be run down the river under a float.
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a good smooth centerpin will never be outmatched. u can float fish, spinner fish, spoon fish. u can cast spoons on a pin! fish spinners under a float, and then everything else can be run down the river under a float.
I'd have to agree with ya 100% YG. Overall it's the most useful reel for me.
Just my 2 cents.
Bluesteele
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sigh.... I did it. ;)
I just purchased a Okuma Aventa VT-1002.
Any of you guys know/hear anything about this reel? What are the thoughts?
Are there any specific ways to take care of it?
And.. I need to learn how to cast it. haha! ..this is gonna be interesting.
I got a 10# PLine on it... guy at the shop said this is a strong line and would do fine with 20# fishes...
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I've bee on a Center Pin for over 10 yrs now, I've used all oter reels, though being from Ont, the rivers are smaller, but the CP is the best way o drift naturally and control not only your drift, but your fish aswel.
I just joined the board, can anyone tell me how to start a new topic? New to BC and would love to head out this weekend, but can't find a "New topic" Button to start a thread???
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I've bee on a Center Pin for over 10 yrs now, I've used all oter reels, though being from Ont, the rivers are smaller, but the CP is the best way o drift naturally and control not only your drift, but your fish aswel.
I just joined the board, can anyone tell me how to start a new topic? New to BC and would love to head out this weekend, but can't find a "New topic" Button to start a thread???
the new topic button is visible when you're on the "general discussion" page where you can see all the topics. on the right, top side of the screen.
So if you're reading this, on the left hand side towards the top, you should be able to see "general discussion" with a little folder icon next to it. click on it, and then you'll see the new topic button on right top.
Welcome to BC and welcome to the forum!
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AH! that's what I tried to tell the guy! he had me going for 8lb at first, and i was like "no way" but the guy insisted i wouldnt need more than a 10#...
argh, if i take my reel to a tackle shop, they should be able to save my line somehow and get me on a heavier line, right?
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oh, this is down in seattle, outdoor emporium. a huge shop in sodo.
they have TONS of products and you could probably find ANYTHING fishing/hunting/camping/hiking related... but clearly not the greatest place for advice...
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I put a couple of hundred feet of braid as backing and a couple of hundred yards of 20lb mono on my CP.
I expect to use it mostly for large chinook and chum salmon, hence the 20lb.
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I put a couple of hundred feet of braid as backing and a couple of hundred yards of 20lb mono on my CP.
I expect to use it mostly for large chinook and chum salmon, hence the 20lb.
I heard about the whole "backing" deal... is this necessary to do? on the box that my cp came in, it does have instructions on that, but i'm wondering if it's a must?
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I heard about the whole "backing" deal... is this necessary to do? on the box that my cp came in, it does have instructions on that, but i'm wondering if it's a must?
do it, it's cheaper than filling it all up with regular line anyways
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i'll take the advice and do it.
what is the purpopse for it though?
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im back in canada now and took my cp reel to berry's to possibly get new line. i was once again told i'd be just fine with the 10lb i have.
i'm going to be fishing vedder with roe tomorrow and sunday, i don't know what to do!
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actually, i plan on going tomorrow afternoon (to vedder) and i hear springs are more likely to bite than cohos. may be this will make it easier for me and i can get heavier line? how heavy?
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I like the Okuma you have. A lot of the newer reels have, I hate to say, better tolerances than those of yesteryear, and they're as easy to care for as them, too. I use 12 - 15lb, some of my buddies use nothing but 20, and I know of a couple of folk who use 6 to 8 lb, but the fish might be difficult to bring to hand, and busting off all larger fish isn't too cool or worth the bragging. We all catch fish.
Give it a shot and see how you like it. Each has its advantages.
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I heard about the whole "backing" deal... is this necessary to do? on the box that my cp came in, it does have instructions on that, but i'm wondering if it's a must?
I believe the is to prevent warping the spool. The elasticity of mono spooled under high strain on the spool can warp it- especially on tall narrow spools where the lip is far from the hub. Backing has just about no stretch, so it can't put any pressure on the spool and this prevents it from warping.
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Not sure what shop would spool a centerpin with 10lb line?
What are you going to use for leaders?
I have used all 3 types of reels and now basically only use a spinning reel when tossing spoons or spinners and a Calcutta 250 for everything else.
I have been down the pin road and i find at the end of the day the levelwind gets me more casts and my hook in the water longer.
The levelwind also seams to be easier on me after a long day on the water.
Having said that i have a light cp set-up that im looking forward to using this winter for some small system steelhead.
Any reel can do any job(within its limits) with enough practice and patience.
Just watch that fellow at the Vedder that uses an H shaped piece of wood to hold his line on if you dont believe me. ;)
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I've heard of that guy who uses the handline actually, from someone somewhere a long time ago.