Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: Morty on April 23, 2009, 07:36:41 PM
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I haven't seen anyone else post anything on this yet, but it looks like a long wait until we can retain Chinook this year.
This notice is from March 23rd this year. I'm not sure that I want to start C&R on Springs
For those not familiar with the "areas" the Lower Mainland portion of the Fraser River is covered by subareas 29-11 to 29-17
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RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject: FN0199-Salmon: Early timed Fraser Chinook - Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9 to 29-17 and Region 2 - Recreational Management Actions
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Spawning escapements of Early-Timed Fraser River Chinook have declined to very
low levels and the Department is continuing to implement additional measures to
reduce harvest impacts. Additional management measures are required again in
2009 for commercial, recreational and First Nation fisheries to halt the
decline of Early-Timed Fraser River Chinook.
Effective 00:01 hrs Wednesday April 1, 2009 and until 23:59 hrs Sunday May 31,
2009 additional recreational fishery restrictions on Chinook salmon will be in
effect in Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9 and 29-10. During this time period and in
this area the daily limit is zero (0) Chinook salmon.
The current regulations in Subareas 29-11 to 29-17 and the waters of the Fraser
River in Region 2 effective from January 1 to April 30, 2009 are no fishing for
salmon.
Effective 00:01 hrs Friday May 1, 2009 and until 23:59 hrs Monday June 15, 2009
additional recreational fishery restrictions on Chinook salmon will be in
effect in Subareas 29-11 to 29-17 and the waters of the Fraser River in Region
2. During this time period and in these areas the daily limit is zero (0)
Chinook salmon.
Variation Order No. 2009-104 and 2009-105
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Thanks for the infomration..any idea if there will be a size restriction this year as well?
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Thanks for the infomration..any idea if there will be a size restriction this year as well?
Yes there will be. I am not sure the time period.
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So far, it sounds the same as last year. Size restrictions will be to Aug 8th (approx?). The late summer Springs should be in abundance again, so it looks the pretty much the same as last year. Although....with DFO things can change for no apparant reason ???
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well thats disappointing, I was really hoping for a earlier opening than last.
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At our FVSS annual meeting this evening it looks like the earliest we will have a chinook opening on the Fraser is indeed June 15. It also will depend on the Albion test fishery to see what the index is showing what the 2009 run size looks like. There is another meeting this Thursday that may also shed some light on when the opening could happen as well if there will be a size restriction like last year.
The good news is the forcast for a strong chinook run in August as well as for the pinks once again.
For the few that like to fish sockeye they say there will be openings in early August.
I will provide an update as I hear any new news.
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keep us posted chris. ;)
Thanks,
spey
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The fraser river is like chocolate milk anyhow. It will be tough fishing for a while.
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Thanks for the information; not quite what I wanted to hear though! ;)
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I cant wait for those long days of fun.......just a little teaser.................
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/jetboatjimmy/IMGP0599.jpg)
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Thats an awesome picture. :D Thats a perfect fishing day in that picture. (of course im assuming the wobbly pops are just with the photographer :D)
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Nice pictures on Maple Leaf Bar, 6 weeks before the bells start to toll. ;D ;D
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what time is the meeting chris and where? I'm a member and have heard nothing about any of the meetings this year :(
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what time is the meeting chris and where? I'm a member and have heard nothing about any of the meetings this year :(
It was last week. You should have received a newsletter a month ago announcing the FVSS annual meeting. If you did not please send me an e-mail with your name and address so I can look into it.
Sorry you missed the meeting.
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23:59 June 15th.The way I read that any opening would have to begin on Tuesday the 16th.
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Chris we have been over this before that is Canuck Bar until the leafs beat the Canuck's it will remain Canuck Bar. I believe that leaf bar starts in the Vedder Canal at number 7 hole of Royalwood..................
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The Department has released the second version of the South Coast Salmon IFMP which you can find on our website below:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/consultation/fisheries-peche/smon/sc_ifmp_april09.pdf
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Riverman with your new job you wont even be able to think about fishing for springs on the 16th of June ;D
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Heard last night at a FVSS meeting they may now not open to July 1 but that is not engraved in stone. It depends on what the Albion Test fishery catch totals will be showing.
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DFO was supposed to update the forecast June 1. Does anybody have a link to this forecast?
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=117473&ID=recreational
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Don't you just love the way fisheries updates their decisions? I read it that because the forecast is above minimum numbers the Fraser is now open instead of the original June 16th opener. Please somebody clarify if this is right or wrong for me?
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Yes and no, depending on which areas that you are referring to.
Fishery notice 386 that Lapa posted is a revised management measure that was set out in fishery notice 369 (http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=117353&ID=recreational), which affects Area 29 off the mouth of Fraser River (Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9 and 29-10). In these areas, the daily quota of chinook salmon has been revised from zero per day to two per day (both have to be over 62cm in length).
Retention of chinook salmon in the Tidal and Non-tidal Fraser River remains closed until further notice.
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Rodney, thanks for the clarification although not what I wanted to hear since I fish the main Fraser.
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yes it is still closed but this is good. Further resrictions would be in place if the run was forcasted at under 40,000 fish, so with 60,000 being forcasted we can hope for an opening without a slot size restriction as early as june 16th. Hopefully this will be the case on the 8th when the update us further.
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Yes thanks
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If we are open on the 16th, how much bar will be available to fish. It looks pretty high to me right now...
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not right away but the river will drop and clean up probably sooner than usual. From what i have heard the snow pack this year is not near what it usually is. I saw a spring jump right near the boat while out on the fraser this weekned.
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not right away but the river will drop and clean up probably sooner than usual. From what i have heard the snow pack this year is not near what it usually is. I saw a spring jump right near the boat while out on the fraser this weekned.
Upper Fraser watersshed above average snow pack. Lots of snow to melt from the higher levels yet.
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Here's a site to check out for snow levels- http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/rfc/river_forecast/bulletin.htm Looks to me like there is still plenty of snow yet to melt.
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Here's a site to check out for snow levels- http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/rfc/river_forecast/bulletin.htm Looks to me like there is still plenty of snow yet to melt.
Yes.
Overall snow conditions as of June 1st are:
Well above normal in the Skeena, Nass, Liard, Stikine (140+ %)
Above normal in the Upper Fraser, Nechako (130+%) Below normal in the North Thompson and South Thompson (80-90%)
Below normal in the Mid and Lower Fraser (70-80%)
Below normal in the Kootenay, Columbia (70-80%)
Below normal in the Okanagan, Kettle, Similkameen (70-80%)
Below normal on Vancouver Island and the South Coast (50-60%)
Significant mid and high elevation snow remains to melt throughout the northern half of the province.
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Thanks for the info, i stand corrected on the snowpack levels. I had seen the mid-lower fraser levels but not the upper fraser,nechako. Here to hoping it still clears up in reasonable time.
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I heard there was a meeting today to discuss the slot limit and such... not sure if it's BS or not anyone know??
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I heard there was a meeting today to discuss the slot limit and such... not sure if it's BS or not anyone know??
Was supposed to be a meeting yesterday but there was no regulation update when I last checked.
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I'm curious why Fisheries states they will give an update on the 8th yet here we are on the 9th with still no word. Of course I suppose it doesn't matter too much since it won't open regardless until the 16th. Hopefully they don't put a size restriction on the fisheries until August 1. I noticed on the First Nations Catch Report Web Page they caught almost 1,100 Springs just on June 7th. Even if they open the sportsman on the 16th I wonder how many at most we will get per day?
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I cant wait for those long days of fun.......just a little teaser.................
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/jetboatjimmy/IMGP0599.jpg)
AWESOME..... I live out in the Wack now.... so hopefully I'll be able to get out with some of you fine gentlemen this year!! ;D
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The 1100 caught by first nations was for the week, not just in one day.
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Your right, I stand corrected!
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DFO just updated their site. Fraser river chinook, open june 16th, no size restriction, 4 a day with only one over 50cm.
here is the link:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=117677&ID=recreational
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I cant wait. I will be out on the fraser on june 16th. thanks for the info
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Good news, time to bring out the bar rods. ;D ;D
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Good news, time to bring out the bar rods. ;D ;D
Wanna bring out a rookie ;D
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Wanna bring out a rookie ;D
When the river drops as it will be too dirty for bar fishing for a bit yet and I hate all the bugs out there at this time of year wanting to drain a few ounces of blood from you.