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Title: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: DAY AT THE RIVER on December 07, 2007, 07:13:56 PM
Got up 5:30,checked the sky and made the decision: I am going to have long
 weekend.Made the latte, pulled bag of roe out of the freezer,packed the rods
 and I went look for new spots for upcoming steelhead season and maybe some
 last cohos at the upper Vedder.Turn out to be one of those days,you remember
 for a long time.River just for my self, crisp beautiful day, water flow
 perfect. I got into 10 cohos(all dark, but fun to battle); all on blue fox
 vibrax. Then I lost what I thought was a chrome coho,saw just a flash of a chrome fish and it
 was gone. I went through the run and then went back where i started.I put small
 pieace of roe on and casted out, third cast in,on the same spot where I
 thought I lost chrome coho, float went down,I pulled back, nothing there, roe
 gone. New piece of roe on, float goes down as it hits water again,
 I pull hard back,see the same flash of the chrome fish and this time fight is on.Seconds
 later fish leaps out of the water and I know IT IS NOT A COHO,adrenaline rush
 in, my heart is pounding and through my mind runs complete check what could go wrong!
 After all, it is first one of the season. Fight continues for 5 more minutes,I
 am very,very patient,no pressure.Then I land first stealie of the
 season,nice hatchery doe 12.5 lbs.What a beautiful day on the river, what a
 nice surprise!
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: flatlander on December 07, 2007, 07:39:32 PM
Congratulations!  Any pics?
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Zach on December 07, 2007, 07:51:55 PM
Good Job! ;D What a great day!
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on December 07, 2007, 07:59:10 PM
sounds like a day to remember! Hopefully you took a pic of the beauty! :)
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: DAY AT THE RIVER on December 07, 2007, 08:51:05 PM
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/11367998490-1197086888-24652/
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: BigCoho on December 07, 2007, 09:15:43 PM
congrats bud! I'm off work untill Wednesday so I guess I'm steelheading tomorrow!
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: BigFisher on December 07, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
Nice fish! were you fishing the upper river, because the water looks cristal clear. Checked the lower today and was still high and very little vis.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Tex on December 08, 2007, 08:27:16 AM
Holy crap, look at the prop on that fish!?!!!!

Beauty.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: mmmroe on December 08, 2007, 09:50:10 AM
Wow congrats on the first steelie of the year =).............can I have the roe haha j/j......I'm done exams so my steely hunting season starts tomorrow :)
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on December 08, 2007, 12:30:05 PM
Wow congrats on the first steelie of the year =).............can I have the roe haha j/j......I'm done exams so my steely hunting season starts tomorrow :)

It was a good day today ivan...however not for steelies ;)
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: testo84 on December 08, 2007, 01:43:25 PM
Wow congrats on the first steelie of the year =).............can I have the roe haha j/j......I'm done exams so my steely hunting season starts tomorrow :)

hehe good luck ivan nice meeting you last time
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: scallop on December 08, 2007, 05:34:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Britguy on December 09, 2007, 09:54:50 PM
well done good early strt to the season for you
long lean fish with huge tail
hope to get out next week
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: allwaysfishin on December 10, 2007, 09:50:33 AM
Ive' been hearing rumours of a few steelhead to the beach in the past week or so......
Nice fish... CONGRATS !
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: OGrady on December 10, 2007, 05:43:24 PM
Congrats man, I hope to give it a try over the holidays
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: kingpin on December 10, 2007, 07:35:40 PM
just wondering if you caught that on the 7th? as the river was very coloured then and the water in the pics is clear..
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: stlhd4ever on December 10, 2007, 08:43:52 PM
or even at the vedder ;D
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: rln on December 11, 2007, 07:13:17 AM
don't think it's a hype post from what i've seen going on out on the vedder.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: DAY AT THE RIVER on December 11, 2007, 10:49:06 PM
...that Crystal clear water should give you idea of the spot,but all four of you are so dumb and you have no knowledge of the river at all...I have no reason to lie to you,I don't know you,tried to share my experience from that day,my mistake...
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: testo84 on December 12, 2007, 09:27:56 AM
...that Crystal clear water should give you idea of the spot,but all four of you are so dumb and you have no knowledge of the river at all...I have no reason to lie to you,I don't know you,tried to share my experience from that day,my mistake...

thanks for the report u dont need to care about those immature kids
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: allwaysfishin on December 12, 2007, 09:38:13 AM
your fish now counts 5 that I have heard of since december 1st rolled around and 3 of those i have seen pics of ( yours makes 4).

I posted a downright crazy coho report this past fall, took TONNES of flak and heat for posting it..... by some obvious NOOBS from this site. THE VERY NEXT day.... I'm sitting here reading about all these guys having amazing days with more coho than they had ever seen........ guess I was lying ... eh NOOBS ?

Don't let the boneheads here ruin your experience. Your report is appreciated and you deserve to be proud of your success.
AND you guys who can't keep your yaps shut and insist on taking the wind outta people's sails......... back o the bus boys. Steelhead season is here.... and it's just for us "real" fisherman  ;D who enjoy steelheading for what it is.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Nicole on December 12, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
Steelhead season is here.... and it's just for us "real" fisherman  ;D

Damn straight! :D

The earliest fish I ever hooked was December 7th, down near the old "littles dyke" area. There are fish in the river, but you have to get lucky, right place right time. It can take alot of looking, but it's worth it!

Nice fish, I'm going to head out this weekend, now that my toxic spill of a body has mended... looking forward to it! 

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Rodney on December 12, 2007, 12:30:12 PM
Keep the report on track please. There isn't a need to get riled up by a couple of skeptical/negative posters, it would just stew up a vicious cycle that wastes everyone's time and energy. This is where selective reading comes in. After spending some time on discussion forums, it's not very difficult to figure out whose posts should be taken seriously and whose should just be ignored.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: DAY AT THE RIVER on December 12, 2007, 10:23:58 PM
Here is one from today,hatcheri doe,relesed,other river...                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/11367994671-1197512212-35305/
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: BigFisher on December 13, 2007, 12:29:00 AM
May I ask what the weapon of choice was?
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: fishiotherapist on December 13, 2007, 11:02:56 AM
Your are definitely having a blast there DAY AT THE RIVER.
Congratulations!!!
Can you take me with you some of these days? ;D ;D ;D

Fishiotherapist
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: kosanin kosher salt on December 13, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
you need a golden ticket to fish with that guy fishiotherapist  ;)   and he dosent take calcutta's or luna's
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: fishiotherapist on December 13, 2007, 02:28:55 PM
If that's the case I might try the most proven strategy for guys- win him by satisfying the cravings/desires of the small intestines ;D ;D ;D

Fishiotherapist
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Xgolfman on December 13, 2007, 07:08:36 PM
I'm pretty sure I know where you caught it as I heard about it..the water is clear in that spot for that pic..I kind of mulled over your post too but mainly as the steelhead looks a helluva lot like a summer run fish..Damn, wouldn't that be something to have a decent run of them in the V.
Nice fish but I think everyone should stay home till next year and not fish up there!!! At least that way I can still fish some nice runs without seeing another angler..guess those days are numbered from now on though  :'(
I'd also like to reiterate what allwaysfishing said...You don't see half if not more of the posts that used to be on this site because everyone got sick of the B.S. People need to smarten the hell up or there will be NO posts at all from the guys actually catching fish...And of course Nicole too... :-* still love you Nic!!!
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: bentrod on December 13, 2007, 10:50:36 PM
Our group landed 2 steelhead in mid October this year in the Vedder.  Both summer-run.  One hooked on a BC Blade and the other on roe.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: kingpin on December 14, 2007, 12:16:03 AM
Here is one from today,hatcheri doe,relesed,other river...                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/11367994671-1197512212-35305/

Chehalis hatchery channel?

looks that way..
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: stlhd4ever on December 14, 2007, 06:12:47 PM
There was a discussion earlier about vedder not getting summer's. Were they far up river? I can't remember what was said whether there was a small run or not. Anybody clarify?
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: allwaysfishin on December 14, 2007, 11:27:24 PM
I've caught 2 steelhead on the chilliwack river "outside " of regular steelhead season..... one was in 1988, fishing pocket water that was located in the stretch of water that is now the slab run. The fish weighed approx 10 lbs, was in full spawn colours, was a male with a pronounced kype, rosy cheeks and sides, and the body was a goldy, yellowy brown. It was unmistakeably a summer run steelhead and was caught sept 29, 1988.

the second was october 24,1993, just above the clay slide below allison pool, fishing for springs with gobs of roe. She was a estimated 12 plus pound doe, in full spawn colours as well.

both fish were wild...... both were caught on bait
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: stlhd4ever on December 15, 2007, 06:15:05 AM
I would guess that those are winter kelts. Not summer runs. If they were summer's they would be bullets. I believe kelts will hang around the river for a bit to feed to regain enough energy to make the trip back to the ocean. I've caught the odd kelt while spring fishing the vedder also. ???
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Xgolfman on December 15, 2007, 09:48:19 PM
No kelts would be alive in the vedder nearly a year later...Spring time yeah, even into may when it's fly only you see the odd one rolling....but not that late in the year.....summer runs!!!
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: allwaysfishin on December 16, 2007, 01:23:11 AM
A decent report from a friend who lives in chilliwack..... they saw a chrome fish bonked.... but did not get a good look (other side of river) , lower river. that was an hour into fishing from first light. They got nothing but moldy coho in a few spots and at 2:30 ish, James bonked a nice 7/8 lbs hatchery doe steelhead, mid river, on guts. no pics... He's been pounding the river pretty much daily since the salmon crowds have thinned. He's got 2 on the tag....... and i haven't even been out once yet  ::)
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: armytruck on December 16, 2007, 03:06:32 AM
7/8lbs , would ave tossed it back for at least a 1lbs. lol . Just kiddin ;D.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: stlhd4ever on December 16, 2007, 06:41:48 AM
I've seen kelts caught in july, august. The river is closed in june for a reason, to let steelhead spawn. I could see the odd one staying in there till sept. There are no summer runs in the vedder. If they were summers they definatly wouldn't be in full spawn colors by sept oct. Seeing as summers' and winters' spawn at approximatly the same time. In the spring early summer.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: mastercaster on December 16, 2007, 08:17:52 AM
Some rivers in B.C. have spring run steelies that don't leave the ocean until late April to mid-June. Even those fish spawn at about the same time as winters and summers...they just come into the rivers fully mature unlike summers that finish maturing in fresh eater.

I have a picture of a buddy holding a steelie not 3 hours out of the ocean, chrome as could be, caught the last day of April....still had lots of sea lice on it.  As soon as he lifted the fish out of the water it was spitting singles like you wouldn't believe!  Would be spawning within days of fresh water entry.

Summers in Sept. and Oct. are still really clean....they still have 6 + months before they're going to spawn.  Anything in spawning colours caught that time of the year are kelts that are taking an inordinate amount of time to mend.
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: allwaysfishin on December 16, 2007, 11:40:26 AM
biologists were thinking the natural red springs of the vedder's old days were all but completely gone..... untill just recently they found numbers that would suggest they aren't gone. I am sure the chilliwack system must have had summer steelhead at some point?
I can't claim that the two i got outside of our normal season were summer run fish for sure...... but it ws strange and kinda cool to catch them
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: Nicole on December 16, 2007, 11:53:07 AM
Apparently Summer runs can naturally exist on systems that have some sort of a barrier that summer/fall entry fish can pass but winter fish can't... I read that in one of the River Journals...

Not to say that they couldn't be planted by the hatchery... Wouldn't that be fun!

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: bentrod on December 16, 2007, 08:00:45 PM
As a wildlife biologist, I am 98% certain these fish were summer-run.  98% because I can't verify when the fish actually left the saltwater.  My hunch was backed up by the other biologist in our group who works for US Fish and Wildlife at a hatchery.  He is also a part time guide like myself.  Nothing precludes these fish from taking a small side-trip up another trib while on their way to their spawning stream.  This is what was probably the case in October on the lower Vedder (below the campground). 
Title: Re: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: DAY AT THE RIVER on December 19, 2007, 09:14:31 PM
I lost one today lover river,saw two bonked...
Title: Re: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: river walker on December 20, 2007, 02:54:20 PM
Scummers???? ummmmm no!   Vedder  may get a few strays from silver or coquihal..
never to my knowledge did it ever have a run of !  or my grandfather who is 98 years of age .  however ..  he does tell me of days when they would hook dozens of chrome june reds
Title: Re: First one of the season
Post by: mastercaster on December 20, 2007, 10:07:28 PM
As a wildlife biologist, I am 98% certain these fish were summer-run.  98% because I can't verify when the fish actually left the saltwater.  My hunch was backed up by the other biologist in our group who works for US Fish and Wildlife at a hatchery.  He is also a part time guide like myself.  Nothing precludes these fish from taking a small side-trip up another trib while on their way to their spawning stream.  This is what was probably the case in October on the lower Vedder (below the campground). 

If they were summer run fish why would they have their spawning colours already....summer run fish finish maturing in fresh water, a process that takes several months and until they do the colouring process is quite slow.  These fish won't spawn until the spring. 

Some winter and spring run fish don't spawn until late June (the month that the Vedder is closed to all angling).  If these 2 fish had a particular tough time on the redds spawning to the point of almost dying it's feasible  it could take them a month ot two longer to mend.   It's too bad there were no pics of the fish because it's pretty easy to determine a kelt from fish that haven't spawned yet. 
Title: Re: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: Pat AV on December 20, 2007, 11:36:27 PM

There will be summers (some showing color) in everybody's favorite north side of the Fraser trib and some systems in North Van.
There are fresh winters in the Ved right now and have been for a few weeks so that is possible as well.

You never know
Title: Re: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: bentrod on December 21, 2007, 06:06:34 PM
MC, I never said they were coloured up.  They were silver bullets with some blush on the cheeks.  And please save me the lesson on identifying the fish.  I know what I saw. 
Title: Re: First one of the season December 7th, 2007
Post by: Mudpout on December 21, 2007, 06:46:46 PM
I caught what was obviously a summer-run at Allison in October 7-8 years ago.  Always figured it was a stray.  Got the pictures around somewhere.

Cheers
Tom